# Miquon then Singapore?

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I see a lot of people who recommend Miquon for the younger years and then Singapore for the middle years. If you do this, do you use all 6 of the Miquon books? And then at what level do you begin Singapore? Or do you do them simultaneously, and if so, how do you schedule this? I'm trying to decide between Miquon and/or Singapore for the fall. Thanks!

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Bumping this up for you. I'm using Miquon as a supplement to MCP Math, but I know a couple of people on this board use Miquon in conjunction with Singapore and say they go very well together.

Good luck!

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Here's a chart the combines the two.

http://www.singmath.com/SM_Miquon.htm

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I see a lot of people who recommend Miquon for the younger years and then Singapore for the middle years. If you do this, do you use all 6 of the Miquon books? And then at what level do you begin Singapore? Or do you do them simultaneously, and if so, how do you schedule this? I'm trying to decide between Miquon and/or Singapore for the fall. Thanks!

My older two boys used Miquon followed by Singapore. My younger two children are using Miquon and Singapore at simultaneously. I use all of Miquon.

My oldest son needed to do parts of 3A and 3B after Miquon, to solidify multiple digit multiplication and division. My second son is very quick in math, and moved easily straight into 4A.

My younger children are using both sets of books. I do sometimes let them skip exercises in one book if they have mastered the concept in the other book. Other times I make them do the work anyway, as a review and reinforcement.

I do think that the long division section in 3A is crucial to supplement the division section in Miquon Yellow. The multiple digit multiplication lessons in 3A are also helpful to supplement the yellow book.

I also like the negative numbers, square numbers, and square roots in Miquon.

If I had to choose one or the other each year, I would choose Miquon Orange/Red for first, Miquon Blue/Green for second, and Singapore for 3rd-6th grade. However, there are many good exercises in Miquon Yellow/Purple that I would be sorry to miss, as well as some good lessons in Singapore 1A-2B. I am very glad I don't have to choose.

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Is there somewhere I can find out more about Miquon? Maybe some sample pages? I'm intrigued by all the talk lately :)

I've decided recently to switch my oldest from Saxon to Singapore. I'm wondering if this is something I should consider for my younger ones.

Thanks!

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Is there somewhere I can find out more about Miquon? Maybe some sample pages? I'm intrigued by all the talk lately :)

Sonlight has samples of each level of Miquon.

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I've read that it is used in conjunction with Cuisenaire rods. Does it tell you how to use them?

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I've read that it is used in conjunction with Cuisenaire rods. Does it tell you how to use them?

Yes. Some of the "pre-Miquon" play that is recommended (if memory serves) is in the "First Grade Diary" a teacher book some distributors don't include in their packages, to users detriment as it is an important book for understand the "math lab" approach. Do try to get this in addition to "Lab Annotations" if you decide to use Miquon. It gives the philosophy behind the method and great ideas for rounding out the program beyond lab sheets.

You can look at my current sig to see an example of "trains". In this case it is different ways to make "10". "Trains" of different values, and "stairs" stacking rods (vertically) next to one another from white to orange and back to white in order of value are good starts.

Then comparing "values" of two rods. I've mentioned I made an "inequalities" card (>) and would take two rods of different values and ask my son (who could not write) to flip the card the correct way and say the math sentence:

5 is greater than 3.

3 is less than 5.

As to Mo's original question. We started Miquon Orange, and one my son got comfortable with it added Singapore EB. I don't see a reason for not doing them in unison, that is what most people do.

Bill

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I use them simultaneously and as separate curriculum, meaning I do not try to line them up. They just do a lesson or two out of Singapore and 1-2 pages of Miquon every day.

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We tended to go through the Miquon workbooks by subject and finish a subject, rather than page-by-page and finish a workbook. So, for example, we would do all of the fraction pages in all of the workbooks (going from easiest workbook to hardest workbook), until they "hit a wall" with a concept; then we'd go back to the easy level workbook, pick a new topic, and run through all the pages in all the workbooks on that topic until they either finished the topic or "hit a wall".

Using Miquon in this manner, we completed almost all of the first four workbooks, before starting Singapore. From there, we used Miquon as supplement. Using Miquon "by topic" rather than "by workbook" made it easy to use Miquon as a supplement. In case it is of any help, below is what the Miquon/Singapore math journey has looked for each of our students. BEST of luck, however you schedule it! Warmest regards, Lori D.

older DS

- grade 2 = did most of Miquon (his first year of homeschool)

- grade 3 = finished most of the rest of Miquon and did Singapore 3A/B

- grade 4 = Singapore 4A/B with various supplements, including Saxon 54

- grade 5 = Singapore 5A/B, with Saxon 65 as supplement

- grade 6 = Singapore 6A/B, with Saxon 78 as supplement

- grade 7 = first half of NEM 1 with Saxon Algebra 1/2 as supplement

- grade 8 = Jacobs Algebra

younger DS

- grade 1 = The Complete Book of Math (gr. 1-2), with various supplements

- grade 2 = Miquon, with various supplements

- grade 3 = tried Singapore 2A/B, it bombed; went back to Miquon

- grade 4 = tried Saxon 3 -- not a good fit; supplemented with last 2 books of Miquon

- grade 5 = MUS old Intermediate (gr. 4,5,6)

- grade 6 = MUS Delta and MUS Epsilon with Singapore 4A/B as supplement

- grade 7 = MUS Epsilon, with Singapore 5A/B as supplement

- grade 8 = MUS Pre-Algebra, with Singapore 6A/B as supplement

Edited by Lori D.
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My two older girls did all of Miquon.

My oldest started Singapore 3A when she was about halfway through the last Miquon book. She still did all of the Miquon book, but I wasn't sure if this program that I'd never seen would work for her, so I wanted to try it out before she finished her last Miquon workbook. It worked well, so she finished off Miquon and then kept going with Singapore.

My middle dd did all of Miquon and then did Singapore starting with 3A. My oldest used the 3rd edition of Singapore all the way through, but my middle used the US edition.

Miquon didn't work for my youngest, so she started Singapore with 1A, also using the US edition.

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