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  1. While I adore BFSU, I'm finding we aren't doing science as much as we should this year because of the extensive amount of planning it requires on my part. I'm hoping to switch to a secular science program that is a little more open and go for third grade (2022-23). We are still in Volume 1 and Scientific Connections Through Inquiry isn't releasing the level we need until Spring 2023, which is too late or that would be my choice. Initially, I was interested in Science Fusion, but the homeschool packages are no longer available, and it looks like all the components I would need to purchase will add up to a very costly curriculum. Someone on FB mentioned Elevate Science, and it looks perfect and costs only $68, but I can't find any reviews. Has anyone used this program? What are your thoughts? Could you give me the good, the bad, and the ugly?
  2. CPO looks so awesome, but WOW, it's expensive! As I thumbed through the magazine it was hard to imagine spending that much on one subject, though if I had the money to do that I would. Do those of you who use it buy the experiment kits ($1,000+) and the teacher guide kits ($400+)? If not, what do you use in place of it, or how do you get by without it?
  3. I've just finished tweaking and revising the high school level biology course (Quarks and Quirks Biology) for my younger son, 12, and his buddy. I taught the class for my older son and his friend when they were the same age, but it needed revision. I thought it might be useful to those of you with middle school aged kids needing a challenge in science. Enjoy!
  4. I'm done! I've finally finished reworking Quarks and Quirks Biology (or MacLeod Biology, as I sometimes see it linked). This is a high school level class but not AP prep. It is, however, rigorous with plenty of reading and writing and terrific labs and would be suitable for self study or a co-op class. The text books are the same as four years ago, but many labs have changed, the order is tweaked, and the website links are almost entirely new. I'll be continuing to work on study sheets for some of the subjects, and the tests will be rewritten as I go. If a miracle occurs, supply lists will also appear for each week. Please email any questions, notifications of errors or inconsistencies, or broken links to me at sdamacleod at sbcglobal dot net. I'm glad to help.
  5. I copied and pasted the equipment list to make getting lab materials together easier. I thought I would share it in case it helps anyone else. http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4091858/chemistry-lab-pdf-june-5-2012-4-59-pm-217k?da=y Here is the chemistry course for those interested: http://www.middleschoolchemistry.com/ PS -- I will edit this as I locate the items at Home Science Tools -- my preferred supplier.
  6. An acquaintance of my dh pulled him aside to ask questions about homeschooling. This acquaintance is strongly considering homeschooling his son (6th grade) after the holiday break due to some (non-academic) things going on with his current school. Dh offered to have them over to talk about HSing, including curriculum. :blink: I think I can handle helping them figure out math & language arts, but I want some input on science/social studies because they might put him back in next year or the year after. (I'm assuming they won't want to do a 4 yr history or science rotation.) Our state requires math/LA/science/social studies when they fill out paperwork to pull him from public school, so they need to have something to start with. I've been able to figure out that they'll want something secular. I've done some poking around & came up with: Science Essentials Grades 5-6 (Used to be Complete Book of Science Grades 5-6) Steck-Vaughn Science Grade 6 Spectrum Science Grade 6 Anyone have experience with these & want to chime in on what the pros/cons are? Or offer up another suggestion? I have NO idea what to offer for "social studies" and whether they'll want some geography/map skills to go along with it. Ideas? Are there good "text" / "workbook" ideas like the science ones, above?
  7. Thanks to Some of You Who Shall Remain Unnamed (you know who you are!), I've stumbled across CPO Science. I want it. Pronto. I've read a plethora of threads on the subject and still require the For Dummies explanation as to what I need & how to implement it. I do want hard copies of the books, that much I know. But whether I want the "regular" or CA-standards version? I dunno. Not sure it really matters? Beyond the practical details, though, I have to consider whether or not I'll put the program to good use. Help me think through this, if you would. My oldest two guys used Apologia General and Physical Science in middle school. Suffice it to say it did the job, but we don't share the authors view on various issues and tire of the editorializing. I basically handed them the books, they slogged through, and the interest-o-meter registered close to zero. I'd prefer a secular text ~ and one that genuinely stimulates the intellect, if you kwim. But I've yet to hit upon something that lights my fire. Apologia is therefore my back-up for my third son. CPO would be so much more satisfying to him ~ and to me. I love Earth Science, but Luke is a rising 7th grader and I wonder if perhaps Life Science would be more appropriate for him. So that's one decision I need to make. Beyond that, though, I've gotta be honest with myself and consider whether I can put CPO into practice. I'm a founding member of HENSE (Homeschoolers Neglecting Science Experiments). Aside from the most simplistic experiments in Sonlight's programs, hands-on science falls by the wayside. "Tweaking" isn't my forte, either; I tend to be an open-and-go kinda gal. Realistically, I'm not going to go through contortions trying to make a program intended for institutional use work here at home. But (there's always that, isn't there?!) I'm so drawn to these CPO texts. I don't love the prices. Don't love how many different elements there are to curriculum. And definitely love the thought of collecting a bundle of science experiment supplies that I ultimately won't use. But the basic student texts and teacher's guides? Aaahhhh!!!! It's what I've wanted all these years. So-o-o-o, how reasonable is it to plunge into this primarily as a "reading science and once in a blue moon doing some practical application (or not)" program? And will a program that attracts me now ultimately drive me bonkers since it's directed to a classroom? Talk to me.:)
  8. And have how you did written down (or blogged)? I started working my way through it: Marble launcher over $100, okay will do nerf guns at measured angles (we did this last summer, actually). Genetic jumble game also pricey: Made REEBOPS from a website. Can get brine shrimp if I can figure out how big their microscoop and salt scoops are. Etc. Anyone done this before so I can cut some time off my planning? Thanks.
  9. I thought my 2 rising 9th graders were going to take science classes offered to homeschoolers at a local private school. Just found out today that the school has discontinued the classes after 10 years of offering them to the homeschool community. I guess that is why no one would email me back from the school for the past week or so. Using this school for high school science had been my plan for years, so I really haven't worried about science courses beyond middle school. Both girls are interested in science and we are working through CK12's Earth Science Honors for Middle School now and will continue throughout the summer. Really anxious to find something for the fall though. Most all of the local coops I have been able to find offer science using Apologia which isn't an option for us. I was so looking forward to not having to deal with science and math for these 2 in the fall. ( I plan to have them take Jann in Tx Geometry class.) Now I am panicking at the thought of having to plan out science. Thanks for any help. This is my first post on the High School Board. :tongue_smilie: I can't believe they are getting ready to start High School. Cindy Mom to 2 girls and teacher/friend to a 3rd
  10. I am trying to find options for 8th grade physical science. I was planning to go with CPO but I not happy with the specialized equipment needed for the labs. My plan, in terms of science, is to do physical science in 8th then attempt conceptual physics in 9th. Good thing I still have a couple years to plan! So, I am sort of thinking that if CPO physics is off the table I might just load up on TOPS science units and maybe some sort of kit. I don't exactly know what I mean by 'kit' but I am sure there is something out there. I also own the two upper level BFSU books. I could just work through the physical science parts of those. I am sure that would give me plenty to do. And that leaves me with needing a text/s of some sort. We could use a CPO book just for reading. Any thoughts or insights or suggestions? Thanks for reading.
  11. Can someone tell me how you've done this so I don't re-invent the wheel (ha-ha, lame physics pun :) I'm using this for a very bright 8th grader and an average 10 grader that will be working together. Here's what I'm thinking: There are 36 chapters in the book, so that is one chapter per week. Mon-Tues: Read chapter, take notes. Wed: Review Questions (orally) and work Practicing Physics Q's in book. Thurs: Exercises (odds, possibly orally) maybe an experiment, too. Fri: Work odd problems in text. It looks like the Practicing Physics Q's and the textbook exercises cover similar material, so I don't want to do too much of this. We're becoming big fans of Khan Academy, so I may add in videos if it seems like too much time on the same exercises. Also, I don't think the math for the textbook problems is covered in the text. Should I expect that my kids will I need some outside help for these problems? Any ideas for lab experiments? I would appreciate any other suggestions you have!
  12. I am really curious about how you like the program? Is it easy to use? Any regrets? Is it challenging for your student? I have been planning on using it next year, and I would love to know how it has worked for you.
  13. I searched but there is so much to wade through but doesn't seem to be a specific list. If there isn't one, can we start one?
  14. Has anybody done CPO Physical Science? We are working on CPO Earth Science right now (love it!) and will do CPO Life Science next (already have the books in hand - just need to plan), but the Physical Science is so expensive for the student & teacher books (and I like to have books in hand, not just on the computer.) I was trying to figure out why they are so expensive compared to Earth & Life, and wondering if we should take another direction for that subject. Hmmmm...I'd love input. Thanks, Angela
  15. Looking for a secular science for 7th grade. My daughter loves science so I would like a strong program. Any recommendations?
  16. I'm looking to make it easy, I'd like to go with a science curriculum that covers the whole scope from a secular standpoint. I am looking for this to fit upper elementary and junior high ages for my 6 and 10 year old boys. Any suggestions? TIA!
  17. We start with physical science next year (I guess, lol), but I'd love recs on any high school secular science that you have used and liked. Textbook, online, I am open to any format as long as it is secular, thorough, and accurate enough to be taught "as is" - - I do not have the science mojo to spot lots of inaccuracies. I'm willing to pay a good bit for something excellent, but I'm not willing to pay a lot extra just to have it online or just to not have to schedule it. Thanks!
  18. I wanted to take a look at CPO's Foundations of Physical Science, but for the life of me, not only do I not see any samples, I can't seem to find how I could buy just one set. I've noticed lots of posts of people using it. How?:confused:
  19. I'm looking for a complete science program, secular in nature for my middle schooler that loves science. I'm hoping for something that isn't dry but that can continue to keep his interests going. He tends to do a lot of reading and watching of the discovery channel but is hesitant to do actual, science work, anything structured. He's getting to the age where I feel he needs more structure. I'm probably asking for a lot, but I'm hoping too that such program can be adapted to my second grader too--also a science fanatic. Does such a program exist? Any suggestions?
  20. I need a very simple, easy to use, inexpensive, secular science curriculum. I'm ok with a few experiments here and there, but I'd prefer a text and discussion based approach. I will have a 1st grader and a 4th grader. I would like a program that covers both levels, but separate programs are fine, too.
  21. I'm trying to find a good science program for dd next year (6th). I stumbled upon these: http://saxonhomeschool.hmhco.com/en/products/default.htm?level2Code=M0010&level3Code=M31099&level4Code=M000129&level5Code= They have free homeschool lesson plans. I'm still unsure if the labs are doable at home, but I'm strongly considering giving one of these programs a go next year. It seems like an easier solution than PH or CPO. We tried OM earlier this year, but it wasn't a good fit for dd. I'm pretty sure we will use OM for high school science, though. They have a syllabus with homeschool-appropriate labs and lab kits (squee!). What do you think of the Saxon packages? What do you use for science (all grades)? Is evolution taught or even mentioned as fact in what you use? Anyone know of any evolution-based science programs that come with a supply kit packaged for homeschool use? That's what I really want. *sigh*
  22. can we please start a secular curriculum thread. i have in recent history bought stuff that have a christian slant...and i bought a spanish curriculum that was completely christian. it just didn't occur to me to think about that in a foreign language curriculum...i'm especially looking for history, science, spanish and latin.....but i think people might enjoy a comprehensive list. thanks, seema
  23. Is it just me, or do you sometimes wonder if science is "dumbed down" for all of us homeschool parents who have trouble understanding it? I think homeschoolers have a reputation for being really bright in the English/literature area but severely lacking in the sciences. I bought RS4K Chemistry this year thinking it would be a great program. My husband took one look at the book and said, "I could teach this whole book to ds in about a week." Granted, I was only expecting it to last 1/2 a semester, but boy that was an expensive program to be so "meatless"!! Has anyone found a science program for the middle grade that you feel is competitve with what the public schools are using?
  24. Hello, I am looking for a secular science curriculum for my 6th grade son. We are just beginning to homeschool him in partnership with a public online school. Throughout his school years he has been apathetic towards science. His grades have been mediocre in this subject I like what I've read/seen inregards to the R.E.A.L. Science Odyssey curriculum but it looks like its intended for 5th grade or younger students. What I would really like is to find a curriculum that would help him become interested and excited about learning science. I work full-time from home so also need a curriculum that has a solid lesson plan and teaching guides. I appreciate any/all recommendations! Thanks in advance.
  25. We purchased a science currciculum for Dd to use in 5th-8th grade. After looking over the curriculum Dh and I decided to nix it. We like the looks of REAL Science, but noticed it only goes through 5th grade. Is there a science curriculum similar to REAL Science by Pandia Press for grades 5-8th? Thank you!
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