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  1. I'm looking ahead to next year. My ds will complete FLL 4 this year, and I'd like some opinions about which grammar program to use next. I'm looking at MCT, Analytical Grammar, and Rod and Staff. I would love to hear from folks who have had experience using these programs.
  2. I've decided on using R&S for English for my 3rd grader after seeing it at a homeschool used book sale and hearing some great reviews on it. However, after perusing the milestone books site, I'm now curious as to how well their spelling and math is for 3rd grade? Or simply in general? I was going to use A Reason for Spelling and Singapore, but now I'm curious about R&S. Anyone have any input? Also, how is their reading program for a 1st grader? Am considering this as well. Thank you!
  3. I've been looking through all the threads on R&S vs. Saxon and since it came up in a discussion this morning with my husband, I'm wondering when it's best to test out of R&S and into Saxon? I've read that some people do grades 1-3 with R&S and start Saxon at grade 4. And some say to stick with R&S through the 8th grade and then start Saxon in 9th. My oldest will be in the fourth grade next year so I'm trying to decide what's best?? Any thoughts?
  4. Hello, We're new to HSing. DS is 9 (as of Sunday). HFA Autism (4 year old PPD-NOS diagnosis), pending some more psycho-educational evaluations in February. Hoping to having a speech/language eval at some point in November. He would be in 3rd grade in school, but we're working on a 2nd to 3rd grade level with our curriculum choices. We're using Abeka Language 4 because he did 3 in private school last year, but I just ordered R&S English 3. Abeka 4 is too advanced for him and honestly I don't like Abeka Language. I was gifted R&S English 2 and having looked at it, it's way to easy for him. I'm thinking 3 will be perfect. He's reading on about a 2.5 grade level. We do lots of reading (mostly read alouds) and reading comprehension work Q&A's during and after the reading. He also does a novel study every week. Right now we're using the Magic Tree House books. He likes them and is able to read them on his own successfully and answer the questions I put together for the study. The core of our HS is the 3 R's although there isn't quite as much writing going on as there should be. He does 3rd grade science, social studies and music through our coop. That's a little background. I started using Logic of English Essentials this week. I'm trying to love it, but I'm not. For some reason it's not feeling that logical to me. We have only done two lessons, but I don't see the connection between the spelling words and the current lesson. For example in lesson 1 we had words with "nk" endings. That had absolutely nothing do with with the lesson. It was so random it bugged me. We enjoy playing the games, but it's early yet, so the games are just for fun as he already knew his phonegrams A-Z. He also knows most of the blends. My DS has a great memory. He already knows 600 or more of the Fry words and we are continuing with that list to 1000 and possibly keep going into the next Fry list. He'll know the 1000 by February or March if I keep up the pace. He's a good speller. Again memory, so I think I could teach him spelling by simply giving him a list of words every 10 days or so like he's had in school for the past 3 years and he'd spell those words. My goal when I purchased LOE was to teach him to understand English, but now that I've started I feel like it was a mistake. I feel like it's a wrong fit for him. I don't think he'll learn and process the spelling rules and all the exceptions. Not at this time. He's very literal, so I thought rules would be a good thing, but he struggles with processing information, applying it, and making inferences. He can't do a simple word problem and has some major comprehension issues. For those reasons I don't think he'll get all those rules. I don't want to overwhelm him. With that said, the other program that I was strongly considered going with was R&S Phonics for 2nd grade. We're reading the R&S Nurture Readers (2nd grade) which he loves and I like too, save for all the references to wickedness. It seems that would be more connected, so I'm feeling like I made a mistake buying LOE. We're still in the Nurture series Unit 1, so if I'm going to switch to the R&S Phonics it seems I should jump on it now. I'm not using the workbooks for Nurture. I have them, but I'm not using them yet. Right now I just want to enjoy the stories, at least though the 1st Unit. If I went with the phonics I'm sure we wouldn't use them at all as it'd be too much. I keep referring back to the samples page of the R&S phonics and asking myself why I didn't think that was good enough. I think I was impressed me with all the Youtube videos on LOE's channel. I also got caught up in the fantasy of my child "loving" to read because he "gets" it. ***sigh*** I'm not saying he won't ever, but I don't know. I'm feeling really confused right now. Should I give LOE more time? Does it make sense for continue teaching the Fry words? I hesitate to stop because they're so easy for him to learn. I'ts something he's easily successful at and we need those successes. Edited to add - The Fry 1000 is a sight word list. Very similar to Dolch but more words. Here's a link if anyone is interested. http://www.uniqueteachingresources.com/Fry-1000-Instant-Words.html Thanks in advance. Rhonda P.S. - Can someone tell me how to change my profile from Just Visiting? I've been registered for 2 years. I emailed administrators, but no one has responded. Thanks.
  5. My son will be starting second grade in a few months. I'm lookiing into a formal grammar program. He has not done formal grammar. We use MFW and plan to use Adventures. But, I'm not loving their suggestion of PLL for grammar. I'm looking at FLL. If I were to go this route, should I start at level 1 or level 2. I know the grade doesn't matter. But, it says FLL 1 is for 1st grade and 2 is for 2nd and so on. I don't see a way to assess where he should be placed. He hasn't been exposed to anything formal, but I don't want it to be too easy for him either. I was able to see a very small sample of both FLL 1 and 2. I didn't see any of the copy work in 1, but I did see it in 2. He can definitely do that copy work easily (at least at the beginning of the book ;)). But, we've never talked about what a noun is at all. So....I don't know. My thought maybe we should start at 1 now and move quickly through anything easy for him. Then, move on to 2 when we finish. That way I am sure he has the foundation. Thoughts from those who have BTDT?? I'm also looking at Rod and Staff English 2. The two seem very different in style. I do tend to like workbooks and my son does well with them. Are these programs easy to switch back and forth from? Like, if we choose FLL and decide we want to give the workbook approach a try, could we easily change from one to the other after a year? Of course, I assume we would want to settle on one or the other for the long haul. And, if we like what we choose, we would just stick with that. Which program allows for more independent work now? Or as we go up? I assume they are both fairly teacher intensive now because it is still only 2nd grade and my son has never had formal grammar. However, I do have 5 younger children including twins doing K, twins who are about to turn 3 and an almost 5 month old. So, if one is slighly more independent than the other, that might be good. ;) Is one or the other better in the long run? Does one or the other give the student a better understanding and foundation of grammar or are they equal in that regard? Thank you in advance for your help and insight!!
  6. For those of you who have used the upper levels of Rod & Staff English: If I decided to self-educate grammar using Rod & Staff, what grade should I begin with? I'm not horrible with grammar, but I'm sure I was never taught grammar very well. Thanks for any help.
  7. OK, everyone! I've tried reading and re-reading "The Well-Trained Mind" book, in the last two months or so. I have 8 kids, ages 14 to 11 months. I am trying to figure out how to teach my older 3-4 boys English (spelling, writing, grammar, vocab, and anything else!) As well how to start my younger kids off. I have bought the writing series and the First Language Lessons from Mrs. Bauer. But I'm really confused about when to start and stop the Rod and Staff series that she recommends in her books for teaching sentence diagramming and grammar, etc. That is my focus right now. So, I was thinking I'll just start the Rod and Staff series where is starts with the second grade, and several other years. I was thinking of teaching grades 9,8,6,and 3 with the Rod and Staff series. But when I'm using other vocab books and the writing books, is it necessary in the older grades? I just don't know anything about Rod and Staff!!! -especially compared to the First Language Lessons for the Well-Trained Mind. It seems they may overlap material, I don't know! Do I buy all of her books as well as all of the Rod and Staff Engilsh Grammar books???
  8. I have been doing R&S with my 8 yr old son since well, forever. He's going to be in third grade next year and I'm thinking about switching him to Teaching Textbooks. I have heard good things from my friend who also has been using it since first grade. Any other reviews would be helpful (good or bad) before we jump in with both feet. Thanks! Kyla
  9. This is a follow-up to the thread I posted on recommendations for a spelling program. I just realized today, that I am teaching two different subjects. I bought the R&S English 2 program which included the Phonics also. Since they look EXACTLY the same, I thought they were the same thing until today when I realized the two different teachers manuals and the workbook differences. So now, we have English (which is mostly sentence structures) and phonics (which is letters and their sounds, vowels and so on).... My questions is: Do I still need something for spelling?If so, should I stick with R&S or can I go with something else like AAS? In my brain the phonics and spelling are overlapping one another. We tried some of the R&S spelling and it's awful, just don't like it. However, I do not want to confuse them by teaching the R&S phonics and english and then incorporate another curriculum for spelling. Thoughts??
  10. The WTM recommends that if you're using Rod & Staff for grammar, then the composition assignments included are enough to fufill the writing needed. Has anyone used Rod & Staff only??? Has anyone paired Rod & Staff with a writing curriculum??? I'm just wondering if Rod and Staff is enough on its own, or if I need to supplement?
  11. I have an almost 12yo DD who finished R&S books 2 & 3 in grade 2. When we moved from the US to Germany in '09, a lot of stuff just fell by the wayside. She never finished the 4th book, but we did go through all of the Bk 4 writing exercises in 5th grade. Last year (6th grade), I was so overwhelmed with family issues that I let grammar slip almost entirely. She is now entering 7th grade, and I want to pick back up with R&S. I am the type who wants to go through book 5, then 6, and so on...but she is balking at working through the 5th book b/c she knows it's 5th grade. WWYD? I know that each year builds on the year before... I should also mention that DD hates R&S (although I suspect she hates most everything right now, LOL). She did very well with it when we used it, however, and I believe it to be a good program. So, WWYD? Would it be a better move to pick up with another program entirely - and is there one that would cover all that she has "missed" in a middle-school text? She might feel better about things if she was doing 7th grade work. TY for any input!
  12. Anyone use Rod and Staff spelling for gifted/advanced pupil? My child will be starting 3rd grade in the fall. We have used R & S Spelling Grade 3 this year. He says it is too easy. I am trying to decide if we should use R & S again in the fall. If so, do you think we should jump to Grade 5? Is R & S a good fit for advanced/gifted students? Is it ok to jump over a "grade" in their spelling? Do I need the teacher's book (I did not use it this year)? Any other spelling books that would be similar to R & S? Here's what I'm looking for: 1. Can be completed mostly independently. 2. Not too time consuming each day (right now it takes about 5-10 minutes 3x per week) 3. inexpensive 4. teaches about root words, suffixes, etc.
  13. These are my choice of math curriculums this year, boiled down. Anyone have experience with or like either one in particular? These will be for a 5 and 7 year old.
  14. I'm just curious if anyone has used it for all levels, and if so, do you feel it was worth it? Are your students in HS super strong in language? Do they write well? Did you supplement it with other writing? Or, did you feel it was way overkill? tia:)
  15. I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on Sonlight's LA programs. I would be using core 3 (possibly 2 advanced) but I can't seem to find much information about the programs. Their website just lets you see the overall weekly plan which doesn't give me enough information. I am drawn by the creative aspects but concerned that it lacks enough structure. We are currently using Rod and Staff English and I am 'winging it' with writing (various journaling assignments, writing assignments) but it's just so dry and boring. I am looking for the best of both worlds I guess and I don't know a whole lot about what's out there ....opinions and advice would be greatly appreciated! thank you!!!
  16. I have used Rod and Staff 2 and 3 with my dd. I went with Serl's Language Lessons for this year, and I don't feel like she has really learned much grammar at all :? . I did not feel like Rod and Staff lent it self very well to independent work. We did most of it orally or she would just read it on her own. But, in the higher grades, I am concerned that it will have to take a lot more time one on one. I am wondering if Abeka or BJU may be better in regards to independence because of the workbook format. Does anyone have experience with using several grammar programs, that could suggest one that is good for self learning?
  17. I'm considering using "Lingua Mater: Language Lessons From Literature" next year for my daughter who will be in 7th grade. From what I understand (from this forum), Lingua Mater teaches both grammar and writing. It sounds like a very good program, but I was mainly just looking for a writing program since we've been using Rod and Staff for Grammar for 4 years now. So should I drop R&S (7) next year, or do both Lingua Mater and R&S? Is that overkill on grammar?
  18. I read somewhere on here recently where someone (can't remember who) said that Rod and Staff didn't sell wholesale, so that meant resellers had to charge higher prices to be able to make a profit. The online company "rodandstaffbooks.com" is *not* Rod and Staff. Rod and Staff doesn't have an online presence. The online store that sells Rod and Staff books charges the same price as Rod and Staff directly. The online company has higher shipping rates unless you go with Standard (which is media mail.) For small orders, Rod and Staff directly is lower shipping even for Standard. Rod and Staff directly has very fast shipping, especially if you live in the Eastern part of the US (they are in Kentucky.) Both companies have the 10% off sale. Both companies accept debit/credit cards. If you call Rod and Staff directly, they will send you a catalog and samples from the grade levels you are interested in. Call them at (606) 522-4348. Just wanted to clear it up for anyone else who was wondering!
  19. I am currently using R&S English 5 and I don't particulary like it. Mainly because it is drudgery to do for both me and my ds. I am considering switching to CC or WT and would like to know which one you like and why. I am leaning toward CC because it continues thru the whole Progymnasmata. I am not too concerned with the grammar portion as my son takes grammar at a local coop, but he is not a good writer and I want him to improve his writing skills.
  20. I'm trying to determine what to use for 2nd grade grammar. So far, here is what I am looking at: Rod & Staff English 2 FLL Queens Language Lessons. I am being pulled to R&S at the moment. We have not done any grammar after dumping Shurley this year because I wanted to concentrate on phonics. Shurley was also too teacher intensive and I didn't like that. I have heard great things about all these three programs and am completely torn! I anyone can give me a breakdown of these programs I'd be so thankful! It's hard to decide when you don't have the books in front of you. TIA! Liz in NC FWIW: For language arts, we are currently doing WWE 1, SWO, and continuing with phonics.
  21. My son will officially be in 7th grade next year. He has been in some public school for K, 1 and half of 4th. I'm not sure that he got much in English lessons. We have been doing Charlotte Mason style up to this point. I am an English major and feel pretty confident as a teacher. I hate saying that. I just know everyone is correcting my writing skills. I would like to add grammar instruction to his 7th grade year. I understand the 7th grade level is pretty advanced. Any idea for a good placement? He is starting on Writing Strands and that is going well. If you suggest another option, that's great. But, we are on a really tight budget, so it would be nice if it's inexpensive.
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