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  1. Does what school your dd/ds attend for pre-med matter greatly in what chance they will have in being accepted to a top tier school for med school? If they went to state university, but got fantastic grades, would they still have a shot at that top tier med school? I know other stuff comes into play such as sports, community service, volunteer etc, but I want to know his chances if he chooses the U of A over a well known school. Thanks!
  2. I've been reading her book, and it seems to contain some very useful ideas, despite the rather random organization. What I'm having a hard time figuring out is what does this look like when put into actual practice? If you've implemented her ideas, would you be willing to tell me about what kinds of paperwork you have for each course, how one course differs from another and how you decide what iteration to use for which class, and how you have it all organized? Thanks, I'm just trying to wrap my head around all this.
  3. OK. Time to get serious about this transcript. Here is what I've heard. Correct me if I'm wrong. SAT is pretty important. Ideally? Take it during at least the junior year, and again in the fall of the senior year. (All scores 9th grade and above stick with you though. You can't delete scores from your "record.") PSAT. Take it in the fall of the sophomore year for practice. Take it in the fall of the junior year for REAL. Cross your fingers, and try not to be bummed if you don't become a National Merit Scholar. (NMS often get full scholarships though. Right? So it's pretty awesome if you can do that.) There is a lower level below a "Scholar" that will cough up some scholarship money though. Right? ACT. Also a good test to do. You can choose which scores you have sent to colleges though. Correct? So if the student takes it and BOMBS it, you can do a do-over. It tests more that just reasoning though. Right? Subject matter is included. SAT II - a strong college application has at least three of these. Some colleges I have looked at required three. AP. Take a class. (or not). Test is given once a year. Pass the test with a 4 or a 5 and the colleges might give you credit. Cool. CLEP. Same as AP - except given more often. This doesn't seem as prestigious as an AP score - Is it just me? If a student took a bunch of these along with AP would it affect their freshman status? Yikes! Because I've looked at the prep books for Western Civ I and we are doing all of this. Why not take the test? SO.......... I'm having a hard time thinking about all of this. It ends up looking like our junior and senior years are almost NOTHING but jumping through hoops. Somehow it just wasn't what I envisioned with the "ta-da" of a classical education. I wanted to spend our time exploring philosophy, the sciences, and the wonder of real mathematics. I wanted to spend our days reading novels, and I wanted my son to pursue his passions before he heads out into the "real world" of college, work, and life in general. Now it looks like almost all we will be doing is studying for tests - and trying to cram in course work. :( Duh to me I guess. How did you all handle this and finish up your kids' coursework and educate your younger kids without neglecting the fact that you have a life - or at least you should..... One day at a time? Ya'll must have a clearer head than I do. I just can't seem to hold my brain still long enough to envision this.... Maybe if I write it down, it will make more sense.... I'm thinking that things could look like this: 9th: -Geometry -Biology -Western Civ Part I (Through 400 AD) -High School Composition (Outside Class) -Literature I (Ancients - TOG; along with a few novels (Silas Marner; Great Expectations; Jane Eyre; Dr. Jekyl; Till We Have Faces; Ben Hur); and the first 1/2 of a short story collection with discussion) -A Beka Grammar 9 & Vocab Classic Roots B & C -Spanish II (We have done the first 1/2 of the BJU course for Spanish II; I haven't decided if we should finish it this year or wait and finish it next fall. His schedule is SO full right now. This month he has just been doing Rosetta Stone to mark time.) -Small Engine Repair Course (CLE) with a independent study project -SAT Prep 10th: -Algebra II (Or Precalculus - I haven't decided; we've done a lot of Alg II material already but I don't think we will have time to complete PreCalc in one year. He's not fast enough yet.) -Chemistry with SAT II Test in Spring -Western Civ Part II (Through 1648) with CLEP Western Civ I Test -AP English Lang & Composition Class with Test in Spring -American Literature (Yea! The novel!) -Spanish II (or III if we decide to finish II this year.) -Automotive Repair Course (CLE) with a independent study project -SAT Prep with PSAT in the fall 11th: -Precalculus with SAT II Math II Test -Physics with SAT II Test -AP American History with Test and SAT II Test -British Literaure -Spanish III with SAT II Test -A technology course. Probably computer programming - or electronics - or not sure.... I'm sure that there's a project in here somewhere. Ds and his grandfather are talking... they've come up with some pretty cool ideas and I've also been in touch with some of dh's friends - I've already received an internships offer from a friend who co-founded what became NJ's fastest growing tech company two years in a row. He said that he would love to have ds for a summer internship. -PSAT in the fall -SAT practice in the spring? 12th: -AP Calculus -AP Science - Probably Physics but he won't have the calculus base to do real physics - AB exam? Isn't that an algebra based course? NOT happy with this notion! Can you tell? I feel like I'm short changing him here - big time! -AP English Literature with SAT II Test -American Government -All of that college stuff in the fall......... including the SAT -SAT in the fall I don't even know if you can do this. Can you take three AP exams? Aren't they all given on the same day? What if you're sick that day..... this is ridiculous...... We're up to six SAT II tests. Dumb. Really dumb. I WANT TO STUDY PHILOSOPHY and ECONOMICS and ELECTRONICS and Computer Programming and....... I have listened to too many wonderful courses by the Teaching Company to pretend that this schedule is anything other than an absolute PAIN! It looks like we are going to have to cram the rest of Spanish II into this year. Sigh. Can you tell that I don't want to? OK. Question. If we finish Spanish II this year and then do Spanish III in his sophomore year and manage to pull down a decent SAT II score, will he have to take a foreign language placement exam TWO YEARS later when he starts college? This kid HATES languages. I don't want him to have to start over and do this all over again, because I am almost SURE that he won't remember ANYTHING from his sophomore year. He memorizes the stuff, learns to apply it, takes the test, and then is completely content to let it leave his brain. It's a struggle. And I honestly can't see why we should bother if he is going to have to take it over again in college. He is probably going to be an engineering major; I'm almost certain of it. Who has the skinny on this one? So - has anyone else taken the time to lay this all out and then realized that you are really, really tired. I'm really tired. :cool: I think I need a counselor. Anyone for hire for phone counseling? I always thought I would pursue a very non-traditional path, but I'm starting to feel a strong pull toward "normal" clear-cut programs with accepted hoops. Learn the material. Fill in the bubbles. Get the score. Learn the next set of material. And try to cram your passions in around the edges. There is just something about this that makes me SO uneasy. I suspect that I will find peace if I pursue what is "normal" and standard and discover that ds is going to be a good student. I just don't know. I just have so few benchmarks. But.... I just want to teach. I just want to learn. I'm so tired or playing curriculum development manager and guidance counselor. Somehow I feel like I'm being tricked here into giving up my dreams. Mr. Popper didn't give up his dreams. That's why he was the only one who actually LEFT Stillwater.... But how can you stand with one foot each on two different islands? What's wrong with me? HELP! Posting here. I guess. The cool thing is that I can delete this post (I think) if I decide that I don't actually want ya'll to know that I'm losing it here..... :eek: ...but I think I am... and I've eaten all of the chocolate. There's none left. Nada. This is stupid. This should not be this hard. Every time I try to figure this out, I get wrapped up in my own leash. Can it be that I'm just not smart enough to figure this out? But I'm supposed to. This is my job, right? THIS is what I'm supposed to be doing! Organizing an education! How is it that ya'll haven't been dragged off to the looney bin yet? Peace. Mmmm. That. Janice Enjoy your little people Enjoy your journey P.S. I was just about to hit post when the 14 year old ds interrupted to read a passage from Silas Marner to me. He was smiling broadly as he read. "This is great mom. Listen to this...." I just don't want to lose that. Please tell me that we won't lose that! Please assure me that we have nothing but happy times ahead! (It's OK. You can lie. I won't know any better. ;))
  4. I've been reading the posts on PSAT and SAT scores in relation to college scholarships. I'd like to share some thoughts and share our experience. First, my dd received an academic scholarship that pays almost all of her tuition. We do not qualify for any need based aid. She earned this by having a good SAT score (1360) and a good gpa (3.9). She was accepted into every college she applied. Every college offered her academic scholarships from $5500 to $10000. All of these scholarships were renewable if she made a good gpa--usually around 3.3. She applied to a state school and three private schools. Again, all these were based solely on SAT scores and grades. She was home schooled from kindergarten and up. Not a single school blinked at that or questioned her transcript created with Excel. Here are ways I've learned to get a relatively inexpensive college education. Number 1: Jack up the SAT score. Don't waste time studying for this yourself. Remember this: the SAT and PSAT tests are tricky tests. They are trying to trick you. If you don't understand that, you won't do well. Many people don't understand this and refer to themselves or their children as poor test takers. If you can crack their system, take lots of practice SAT tests, your score will go up. Taking lots of SAT tests also reduced tet anxiety. However, this takes time and a good SAT preparation program. My dd went to a great local SAT prep center. She made a very average score on her first, baseline practice test at the center. Then she started taking their classes. Her score went up 100-200 points in the first week. It climbed slowly, but surely after that. Number 2: If you find a good SAT prep center, don't balk at the price. Our $1200 investment will quadruple itself before her first year of college is completed . If she earns a 3.3 gpa, her tuition will be paid for four years. Really, it may be the best financial investments we've ever made. Just make sure it is a good school that produces good results. Number 3: Preparation for SAT and PSAT should start, at least, the summer before their junior year. Number 3: Make sure your kids know that they have to earn good grades on all their high school courses. If they do, they could translate into huge financial gain. Of course, they need to be prepared far before high school for this. They need to be well prepared academically so they can succeed. It is difficult to convey these long term benefits to kids, but try, try, try. Make sure they know about the financial rewards waiting if they keep their grades up. Number 4: Certain colleges do not offer academic scholarships. Some offer very limited academic scholarships. If you do not qualify for need based aid, academic scholarships are the only way to shrink the college bill. Ivy league schools, Wheaton and others do not offer academic scholarships because almost all their students deserve them. Those schools primarily offer need based aid. If you don't qualify for this, you're paying the whole bill. While I would've loved to see my dd at one of those schools, I simply couldn't justify the price. She couldn't either. If you want to make the college experience affordable, don't apply to schools that don't offer academic scholarships. They may be great schools, but you or your child will be saddled with debt when they graduate. College can be expensive, but it doesn't have to be. There are great schools out there who will throw thousands of dollars at your child with a good gpa and a good SAT score. Just thought I'd share.
  5. A recent thread about choosing colleges got me thinking that it would be a great benefit to all of us if those of us who are visiting colleges would post a report on the school(s) visited. Just a few impressions would be really valuable at least to me. Longer reports, great also. How 'bout it? Danielle
  6. DS (a Jr) is in need of some advice and I've never been down this road before so I'm coming to you wise ladies for assistance. What is the process your kids have gone through to come up with their short or even their long list of colleges that they 'think' they want to check out with a visit? We are talking about the ones that they say to you that they would like to visit, to explore a bit. Although I attended college I attended the large state college that was close to home cause, well, I have no idea why. It was there, and close by, and....well, anyway, DS would like to hear how others have gone about this. Last year we attended college fairs and it seems every college, or most everyone has his desired majors (biology/bio-chem/bio-chem eng), and the fairs were crowded and the folks manning the booths knew their school was the best one for DS. :willy_nilly: Thanks! Carole
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