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  1. Can you share what you moved to for pre algebra? MM has worked, but this year more than once a week my dd has grown frustrated with presentation/wording of problems. I'm also seeing some gaps in her knowledge (most recently shapes lol). She is definitely ready for pre algebra but we need something new (and with online instruction live or recorded...to save our relationship) the plan has been to move into Foerster for algebra. I've looked at mr. D but am also thinking maybe a year of Saxon with Nicole the math lady to drill the basics? She is a very logical and rigid thinker when it comes to math. She much much prefers writing and reading😊
  2. I am trying to sort out here we will head for math after we have finished with elementary mathematics and there are so many options, none of which seem to have good samples online. Is there a thread that lists all the popular prealgebra options? If so please link me there, I cannot find anything in a search that is helpful. I guess I am looking for prealgebra, can you help me with where should we be heading next. DD will be 10 and starting 6th grade. She will have finished BA3-5 (assuming all of 5 is out by then but this is for about 12-18 months time so we should be good to go) We are working through (or rather skipping and jumping through) both MUS and MM for teaching of concepts not covered in BA and also for drill in basic operations. She will have finished MUS through zeta and MM through to the end of 6B (old version). I was thinking I was all organised and was going to do AOPS prealgebra but now I am second guessing myself. What other choices are there for her? She absolutely loves BA, loves it, but I don't want to move into something that will be too hard and put her off, however it needs to be sufficiently challenging. I am looking for something comprehensive and thorough. Ideally I would love something that we can continue with the series for the next few years and not a single once off book. Hit me with your favorite math choices for this level. I am just getting myself confused here lol
  3. Memoria Press's new 7th grade curric pack has this for the preAlgebra. The textbook is free online here: http://mathrev.redwo...edu/PreAlgText/ I am not a math knowledgeable person, having not taught beyond R&S 6th grade math :) Can anyone shed some light on what they think of this. I can look it, but still not know how it compares to other books. Anyone know anything about this one or have any thoughts after glancing at it? They have an algebra text as well: http://mathrev.redwoods.edu/ElemAlgText/
  4. ... this is for Button, who isn't the fastest writer but is perfectly WILLING to show his work. He can do the AoPS pre-algebra placement test, and we're about to wrap up SM 4B; he is extremely good with math concepts. I'll probably do the AoPS pre-A sooner or later with him, so could purchase the next round of SM and also the AoPS book; but I'm trying to spend carefully. Ideas? ... and thanks!
  5. I'll start with a bunch I'm aware of. If anyone wants to comment on a program they've used, it would be most helpful. Chalkdust Teaching Textbooks Life of Fred Lial's Basic College Mathematics Lial's Pre-algebra Math-U-See Dolciani Thinkwell Art of Problem Solving Discovering Mathematics Saxon 8/7 CLE 7 Pre-Algebra Concepts (Mastering Essential Math Skills) Horizons BJU Abeka Kinetic Books What am I missing? Anyone have a love on this list?
  6. We're doing AOPS PreAlgebra at home, without the online class. I'm trying to figure out how to pace the book. Doing one section each day (1.2, 1.3, 1.4,...) seems too fast. We tried that in chapter one, and retention was not so good. Dd is in 5th grade and relatively mathy, as is Mom. I don't have her read and do the problems on her own. We read and work through them together at the white board. Then she does the exercises on her own, and we review them together at the white board. I am considering reviewing the problems at the start of a section on one day, then have the student do the exercise problems for the same section the following day. At the end of each chapter, spend one day on review problems and another day on challenge problems. How much do you have your student do each day? Thanks! --Vida
  7. Has anyone seen something similar to the Spectrum books but that deals specifically with Cartesian graphs and linear algebra equations? I can find the worksheets online, but I'm looking for pre-printed books to work stuff out on.
  8. I've recently created a list of options we've tried for mathematical learning after Singapore 6B. With two accelerated learners, this happened quickly, and I thought it might be helpful to share the (many) paths we've taken and considered. I'd appreciate any additions (add to the comment section). I hope this is helpful to someone out there.
  9. Is it necessary for a student to go through a "pre-algebra" course before starting Jacobs Elementary Algebra? What about pre-algebra in general? As I look at various T of C in pre-algebra books I see sections on variables, basic inequalities, exponents and negatives numbers which I thought was "pre-algebra". But 70% of the book is decimals, fractions, percentages, basic geometry, ratio, square roots etc... I thought a lot of that was covered in general 5 and 6 grade math... Am I missing something or are they just getting mastery down good before moving on?? J
  10. Yeah another AoPS thread lol On another thread I read last night someone said that AoPS didn't really review, it was more of a mastery method, assuming the child masterered the previous material and expecting them to use it properly without any review. For those using AoPS how true is this? My son is currently using Saxon. We did one of the sample Pre-Algebra lessons yesterday. It seems like it would be a good fit and after watching the videos, my son thinks so as well. By I am concerned about lack of review. The discovery method and videos look like they will be great for him, but after being in the Saxon mindset, I am afraid that lack of review will not be good for him. What say you AoPS users? Is there enough review? If not, do you supplement with anything to review? Thanks!
  11. Derek Owens has made all of his lectures for this course available for free here: http://www.lucideducation.com/Prealgebra.php He does not use a text for this course. All homework problems are in the student workbooks, and the tests and all solutions are available on a cd. Thought I was going with Lial's for ds, but I am tempted by this.:)
  12. Until Matryoska mentioned it in a thread below, I always thought BCM was *the* recommendation for Lial's for pre-algebra; I didn't even know Lial's had a pre-algebra! I don't know much about upper level math, but I do have BCM here and thought it looked like quite a bit of review. So which one is generally the better choice? (More specifically, for a non-mathy dc, but one who I do want to have prepared well!)
  13. Ok I know I have sung the praises of LoF high and low, and I stand by my opinion that it is a stand alone program, my dd is positively flourishing with it. However, my (rising 7th grade) ds is just not getting it. He loves LoF, and he wants it to work so bad, but he is just completely lost. A bit of background here, my son is a serious math hater/struggler. He attended school (both private & public) from K-2nd. When he would come home with homework sheets he had no idea on how to do the math. I would sit with him for hours every night teaching him the concepts he was supposed to have learned in school. When we started homeschooling my plan was to use MCP (with TM) till 4th then switch to Saxon. MCP was hard but we managed to get through it, my other kids switched over to Saxon without a problem and took off. My ds could not do Saxon, at all. So we stuck with MCP a bit, then switched to R&S math. We both hated R&S math with a passion, but we did get through it (barely), and it was effective in teaching him all the arithmetic he would ever need to know. The reward for getting through R&S was LoF. He was so excited. He flew through the fractions book with only a few minor hiccups. Then he started Decimals and that is where things got hairy. He got near to the end of the book and he was struggling with all the bridges. He would always manage to get over them but only after several attempts and redos. He wanted to start the book over from the beginning. I agreed thinking it might be best before he started the Pre-Algebra books. Well he got through the first few chapters fine, then the struggles started all over again, only this time they were worse. Now he is getting frustrated because he feels like he is spinning his wheels. All the confidence and love of math he gained from LoF fractions has drained away. I really don't know what to do. He is the type of kid who has severe struggles learning new concepts (in math), but once he masters them he is fine. He has mastered all basic math and fractions. He is struggling with decimals (he has some basics down), percents (this really seems to be a sticking point), and basic geometry (finding radius, perimeters etc.). Order of operations has always given him trouble, he likes to "skip" steps and jump to the end. He also has great difficulty with "rote" memory. I am trying to find a program that will work for him. He is a kinetic and auditory learner. He is a very strong reader and has an excellent sense of humor. He is creative and very artistic. He gets bored easily and loses all focus the moment he does. Despite his problems with math he has amazing engineering skills and is very, very good at following schematics of every different kind. He really wants to do well and is eager to please, he does genuinely want to learn math, despite not enjoying it. He will probably need my help (at least occasionally) no matter which program we choose. I, myself, am not a math (or science) person. So the math program would have to offer teacher hand holding or be clear enough that I could understand and then reteach using my own understanding. It seems like every math program I can find is arithmetic based, which would bore him quickly since he has already mastered it, or Pre-Algebra which I feel might be too hard for him. I would like to work him into Jacob's Algebra. But I need something to get him there. The obvious choice would be the "key to" series, but he hated the Key to fractions (found it way too patronizing & boring) and is not really a workbook kid. We considered TT but not only is it seriously out of our price range (especially considering it might not even work for us), but my husband and I did not like the samples at all, we felt it had too many "life skills" and economics thrown in (we also would like to avoid "virtual" learning if possible). We want something that just focuses on mathematical concepts. Please help!! :bigear:
  14. And an ISBN would be great. This mom is about to scream as I have had it!!;)
  15. I ordered the 1973 and 1988 Dolciani pre-algebra books and the 6th edition of Lial Basic College Math, and all three arrived today. I ordered them because I wanted to see what pre-algebra "looks" like. And they were very cheap (less than $16 for all 3). :D Anyway, I haven't had a ton of time to look through them, but I was under the impression that BCM is equivalent to pre-algebra. In looking at the table of contents and flipping through, it looks a lot different than the Dolciani pre-algebra books. I think my oldest (6th grade next year) could do a lot of the work in the BCM book now. We have always used R&S math, just fyi. Am I missing something? I am quite confused. Side question: If you use either Lial or Dolciani, what is your preferred edition and where can you get a teacher's instruction manual? Thanks!
  16. I was hoping to use Horizons, because both my 4th grader and 6th grader are using Horizons this year. The 4th grader is not crazy about it, so I'm switching him to Math Mammoth for 5th. But I was ready to do Horizons pre-Algebra next year with my 6th grader, but he tells me today he doesn't really like it! (he is an easy student who doesn't complain, so who knew?!) I supplement both kids with Life of Fred, which they enjoy immensely. In fact the 6th grader is doing LOF pre-algebra w/Biology right now. However as much as I like Fred, I get nervous when there isn't a workbook type book with lots of problems! So I have to figure out something for next year for 7th grade that will fill the bill. (we're planning to continue LOF pre-alegbra w/economics for next year, and perhaps LOF pre-alebra w/physics when it comes out) But what is the workbook to be? He is a good math student. Anyone have ideas on 7th grade/pre-algebra options I could consider?
  17. My eldest child is a 5th grader. I know we have one more year of Singapore ahead of us. So, if my kid is let's say bright-average in math, is 7th grade pre-algebra? Is it 8th? Is it a seperate subject? I live in NY and we didn't have a specific subject called 'pre-algebra". The NY math cycle looks like this: 9: algebra 10 geometry 11 trig 12 calc. There is a regent's exam for all of these...or there was when I was in high school..a million years ago :001_huh: So, when did I get taught pre-algebra? What is covered? I don't even know enough about this to know what to ask. I don't know how to evaluate a program. I am guessing I will stick with Singapore. That has worked very well for us. I know they have a newish program, discovery math, that is a little easier to teach than NEM. But I am also considering teaching textbooks. So, anyway, any help understanding what comes after 6th grade math and what I need to worry about would be helpful. Did I just ask for advice about what to worry about? Oh brother.
  18. I'm asking a question on behalf of an acquaintance who is looking for a pre-Algebra curriculum. She said that they have used Singapore math to date but that her son needs a little more repetition and detailed directions. Any suggestions would be welcome. Regards, Kareni
  19. Pretty much that! It really seems there is a lot of repetition in the BCM and if there is a pre-algebra by Lial why use BCM? Does anyone know?:bigear:
  20. What will you use after MM 6? Will your dc go into Algebra at that point? I see grade 7 worksheets, but they are without instruction. I'm a little confused. :tongue_smilie: Thank you for the help!
  21. Hi Jann, I was just wondering why you prefer BCM over the Prealgebra text (isbn#0321266625)? I was looking at the BCM table of contents and I think DD may feel this is too elementary for her. Her basic skills seem to be very good, so I am not sure she needs all the remediation. Her CAT scores were; 97th percentile, grade equivalent 13.6, stanine 9 for computation. 86th percentile, grade equivalent 11.3, and stanine 7 for concepts and problems. I am not sure if those scores help you in any way. I have the PP on k-8 about switching from Saxon. Any and all advice is appreciated. Thanks, Teresa
  22. I have a 7th grader who will complete Chalkdust Pre-algebra this year. She did not ace the course and I do not think she would be ready for Algebra in 8th grade. Several chapters she had to do twice. Would you use a different pre-algebra program for 8th grade? If a different program, which one? Reuse Chalkdust again, if so, would you state that on their records? Thank you, Tina
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