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  1. I'm usually not swayed by curricula, and I was planning on being a good little hsing mommy and using PLL and ILL with all three children. My DD6 is moving into 2nd grade next fall, and I was planning on starting PLL with her, no problem. Then I saw English Lessons Through Literature. Let me explain. Ds couldn't care less about format, he's not very visual. He liked PLL all right. He doesn't like ILL because it makes him write. Now Dd, she's very visual and cares about how things looks. She's artistic, likes beauty, and complains when things are in black and white. The pictures in our PLL are in black and white. Sigh. I wasn't planning on spending more money on LA as I thought I already had everything. I even have Voyages in English 3. I like VIE's presentation of grammar, but 3 may be a bit too complicated for her. Not sure. These are the programs I don't own, but I'm tempted by. I like the looks of English Lessons Through Literature (ELTL). It feels somewhat like a more modern PLL, with color pictures. I also love the idea of the literature being culled from whole stories and books instead of excerpts. The only con I can see that we are tied down to the selections, which means we can't do English that day if the section has not been read. Which is not a biggie, I think. Then there's Galore Park Junior English Book 1. I own JE Book 2 and 3, but not 1. I like the informal way it's presented, but thorough, and varied. The cons are the snippets of reading selections. That could be a pro for reading comp, though. So what are my options? 1- Just do PLL, woman. Resist temptation. 2- Combine PLL with ELTL 3- Combine PLL with GP JE Book 1 4- Skip PLL altogether and do just ELTL 5- Skip PLL and combine ELTL and GP JE Book 1 6- Combine PLL with Voyages in English (it's colorful!) and save money 7- Combine ELTL and VIE 8- Combine ELTL and GP JE Book 1 Ah! So many choices! I'm running around in circles and I can't seem to decide. She's comfortable with the pencil, but she hasn't written too much this year. Copywork and penmanship, that's about it. She writes for fun too. What to do? ETA: I may be moving into CAP's Writing & Rhetoric in 3rd.. but of this I'm not certain either. I was so sure with DS. Why am I having doubts with my girl now?
  2. So, I was on google books and noticed that Primary Language Lessons is now available for free. I plan to put it into a workbook format with a lot of copying and pasting but its a great resource for extra language arts! Woohoo! :D This made my day!
  3. Hi all, I've asked a few questions and scoured the boards as I try to decide what to do for my sons 2nd grade LA. This year he is finishing A Beka's Phonics 1 program, does a Reason for Handwriting (along with some Writing Road to Reading recommendations for handwriting), reading aloud to me, and we are enjoying the School House Rock Grammar songs and Grammarland. So next year this is what I'm thinking. R&S Spell by Sound and Structure—reviews phonics, goes over homophones, etc., syllables, and spelling. Maybe use MCP PHonics Workbook C alongside to add variety and color--20 minutes per day (1st Semester) MCT Island for grammar but won't require the written portions or vocabulary--this will be overview and fun with older sister--20 minutes per day (2nd Semester) Primary Language Lessons by Emma Serl--20 minutes per day Narration/Copywork: WWE1--10-15 minutes per day Handwriting: New American Cursive--15 minutes Vocabulary: Vocabulary from the Roots Up—Greek Portion (Part of our MFW Creation to Greeks program) 5-10 minutes per day I'm afraid it's going to be too much. But if I add it up timewise, it seems to be an hour or less per day. Is it too much? I'm doing MCT with older dd and thought it would be good exposure for him. I like the gentle idea of PLL while including narration and picture study with grammar usage. I think WWE will be valuable for him, but don't know if it's redundant with PLL. Are my time estimations accurate or underestimating? Thanks for helping me!
  4. What's your opinion on this? And is the teacher book necessary?
  5. I am needing help placing my dd9, grade 4, in a writing curriculum. She struggled terribly learning to read and only in 3rd grade developed real fluency with reading, finally picking up short chapter books. This year she's taken off with reading and is reading Sugar Creek Gang, Beverly Cleary, Lassie and other books like those. One of the main things that has helped, I believe, is going back to the beginning with spelling in AAS1 in 3rd grade and learning all the phonograms and how to use them. This year we are using R&S 3 English, but she struggles with usage of the things she learns. We have never done any writing program with her. Apparently R&S 3 starts with a writing component within the next few chapters, but I'm afraid she doesn't have the skills to do the "putting thoughts onto paper" part of composition. She still hates the act of writing, and we do almost all our R&S work orally. She is getting better. We finished AAS2 today and she is able to do the dictations of the little bit longer sentences, but not long sentences. And I'm afraid she may not be able to summarize main points, etc. I'm freaking out a little as I see all these posts about children that are in 2nd grade writing paragraphs without any problems. I don't know if I need to play catch up or just go at her current pace and see how she naturally progresses. So I guess my question is two-fold. What would you do in this situation? And what would you recommend for a curriculum? By the way, my little 1st grader is very good with language arts. I will be starting with Primary Language Lessons with him next fall, and almost wondered if I should do the composition part with both of them, or do something totally different with her. All these questions! :confused:
  6. I am currently researching writing curricula, especially CW, WWE, and PLL. It seems to me ( being inexperienced ;)) that PLL includes many of the goodies of these programs, including: light grammar review, dictation, copywork, oral narration, written narration, retelling stories, outlining, poetry memorization, etc. So, given its extremely reasonable price ( less than $10 per year) and open and go format, why isn't it more popular? :confused: Anyone willing to either comment as to why you chose or decided NOT to choose this program? ;) I don't work for, or profit from the selling of, or know anyone who does profit by the sale of PLL.;)
  7. Has anyone used these together? I thought I had decided on FLL & WWE for next year but after finding a thread comparing PLL & FLL I think I want to use PLL/ILL (workbook style from Living Books Curric.). So now I am wondering what do I need to add to PLL/ILL to make a complete LA program? Do I still go w/ WWE? I am planning for my 2nd & 5th graders. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
  8. I've used CLE Language from the beginning with my children. I have always been impressed with how thorough it is and the layout of it. I was introduced to Intermediate Language Lessons by a friend and am very intrigued. It appears to be a much gentler approach and something that they might retain better than just going through the motions in a workbook. Problem: I am struggling with leaving all the structure and thoroughness of CLE to change to ILL which looks lighter. So is ILL (and PLL for the littler ones) thorough aside from spelling? Could my children pass state testing with being taught using this book (in other words does it go in depth enough and is it repetetive enough)? If you have switched from R&S or CLE were you glad you did? Please help me to firm up my decision and cure me from the guilt of thinking this program might not be intense enough. TIA!
  9. Okay, I got curious about the TM's over at Lost Classics for Serl's original PLL instead of the PLL by Margot Davidson which is what we're using. I wrote down which lessons are different from the Davidson version to the Serl version. Since most of the text is the same, it means those using the Davidson version could use the Lost Classics TM if they wish, at least for PLL. I haven't compared the two ILL versions (there's over 300 lessons!) These are Davidson's PLL, these are the lessons that are different from Lost Classics' or Serl's original: 11. A Picture Lesson- An Intense Study 18 -Selection to be Memorized- The Pasture 31- Oral and Written- Rabbits 39- Composition Lessons- The Escaped Cow 57- Selection to be Memorized - Autumn Leaves 84- Writing Thank You Notes 91- Selection to be Memorized - The Good Joan 102 A Picture Lesson- Motherhood 111- A Picture Lesson- Hide and Go Seek 114- Selection to be Memorized- Immaculate Heart of Mary 124- Reproduction-Oral and Written- The Tower of Babel 127- Composition- The Cat Family 131- To be Memorized- I Meant To Do My Work Today 134- Reproduction-Oral and Written - St. George, Martyr 137- Homophones 138- Information Lesson-The Cat Family (continued) 139- To be memorized- Good Morning, Merry Sunshine 140- A Picture Lesson- Peasant Woman Feeding Her Children 141- Reproduction- The Ant and the Grasshopper 144- Descriptive Writing 145- Descriptive Writing 148- Information Lesson- The Cat Family (continued) 150- Reproduction- The Milkmaid and Her Pail 151- A Picture Lesson The Milkmaid 154- Descriptive Writing 155- Conversation Lesson- St. Dominic Salvo 156 -Reproduction - The Fisherman and the Little Fish 157- Selection to be Memorized- The Kitten 159- Reproduction- The Hawk and the Nightingale 160- For Copying and Discussion- Maxims & Proverbs 161- Composition- Maxims & Proverbs 162- Descriptive Writing 163- A Picture Lesson- Sympathy 164- Selection to be Memorized- America for Me Davidson's has a bonus lesson for the front cover artwork The major difference in Serl's PLL and Davidson's is the ending lessons. Where Serl has letter writing exercises, Davidson's has descriptive writing. Other than that, the differences are different poems and artwork for picture study. I hope this helps someone
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