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  1. We are 7 weeks into Phonics Road to Spelling and Reading level 2. My 7 year old son knows all of the "teams" and has a good grasp of the rules so far. He is very good at spelling words that can be sounded out and use the most common sound. However, he definitely is not remembering the words that use less common sounds or are sight words (true sight words, such as "eye"). He needs LOTS of repetition to memorize anything and even then, he usually forgets if he doesn't continue to use it a lot. Should I add more "study time" to memorize the words? I don't want to use any form of whole word but I'm afraid he can't spell common words such as there, were, was, etc... Also, he HATES reading but is slowly becoming less resistant to it as long as it is easy. Dr. Seuss books are the only ones he doesn't completely fight me about. He wants to be able to read well but he doesn't feel like he's good at it so he'd rather just hate it.
  2. I seem to have a case of Phonics Road Fever. Today I read through a massively long old thread about PR (31 pages, I think?). There were quite a few people in that thread that were just starting PR Level 1. So I was wondering: --Are you still doing PR? How is it going? What do you like/dislike? --If you switched, why? What are you using now? What did you like/dislike about PR? Looking forward to reading your comments. :bigear:
  3. This question is about modifying WRTR or similar programs for a child who is not ready to write yet. Some background: I have a four-year-old daughter who is wanting to learn to read. She recognizes her letters and knows their basic sounds, she wants me to stop while we read and help her sound out the words, and she asks me to point out specific words after I read them so she can study them. If the text repeats the word she studied, she can usually point it out before I say it. Her new favorite game is to think of words that rhyme. She likes to make up songs, and most of the time she can think of rhyming lyrics. I don't have any experience with teaching reading, but these seem like signs that she is ready to read, or maybe it's just normal four-year-old development (she is my only child, so I don't really have another child as a point of reference). On the other hand, she has average fine-motor skills, so think it would be better to wait at least a year before I have her do any formal handwriting. I really like the Spalding method, and I think the WRTR (or perhaps PR, SWR, or the Logic of English) would streamline LA instruction, but I don't want to frustrate her efforts if her fine-motor skills aren't sufficient. On the other hand, I don't want her to develop bad strategies for reading (and eventually spelling) while we wait for her fine-motor skills to catch up with her desire to read. I don't really know the phonics rules well enough to explain them as needed. Can any of these programs be adapted by using magnetic letters or letter tiles? If not, what do I do with her in the meantime? She was interested in AAR Pre-K, mostly because of Ziggy the puppet (:001_smile:), but I can always just buy the puppet and use him for a different reading program, and I am beginning to think AAR Pre-K may be too much review for her. She really loves playing games, so if you know if any phonics-based games (physical games, not computer games) we can play independently from any formal instruction, that might hold her over until she's ready for any of the above programs. Thank you in advance for any advice you might have.
  4. or not? It is a lot of money to spend if it not really going to make teaching language easier.
  5. I'm looking at PR. Are the Rules Tunes included in each level only the tunes for that level or is there a comprehensive set of tunes? I'm looking at PR for my youngest, but want a faster way of teaching my 10yo strong reader the rules and such. I think SWR is the answer for the older, but I'd like a second opinion on her.
  6. Does it really cover all LA? Including writing? Has anyone used the first 4 levels? Could they tell me how it turned out? What are kids capable of when they finish this program? Is it boring? (This is a big factor.) DD is just starting second grade work and just got done learning pronouns. She is also starting on AAS level 2. I am thinking we could start with level 2, either now or at the end of this year? (She will turn 8 this summer.) The thing is I have drooled over it from the beginning, but couldn't think of spending that much. Now I am paying for AAS and thinking about MCT, so the price doesn't seem so bad.
  7. Ok, I finally looked at Phonics Road to Writing and Reading. It is very appealing since it seems to give a strong foundation in the language arts. I am concerned it may be too rigid for a K-1st grader, or for me :) For PR: 1. What should be my expectations going into Level 1? 2. Does the curriculum include readers, read-aloud material or suggested readings? Should I add additional reading material? 3. How long should I expect to work on this with my son each day? Is it complicated? 4. Once Level 4 is completed, what should be the expected outcome? For All About Spelling Fans: 1. Do you think that AAS will give my child an adequate foundation? 2. Do I need to add FLL or WWE to this program to "round out the program"? 3. Can you suggest a good reading list for a K-1st grader?
  8. Backstory: I was a high school English teacher in my former life before I had kids. So I have high standards for LA, but I'm not really sure what is best for the elementary years! My to-be first grader is a very visual learner. She has a low tolerance for frustration. We are wading our way through OPGTR; we are on Lesson 95. (Reading was a HUGE challenge for a while there, and I was ready to chase down the school bus a few times, but things are improving.) I own WWE1--bought that last year at the convention because I am very nervous about teaching narration/dictation, and I felt that that book would help. I borrowed FFL from the library, and that looks...boring. (I don't know if grammar can be made very exciting, however.) I have heard great things about R&S, Shurley, and Phonics Road. I think I *might* like PR, but the price is a bit prohibitive. But I am also scared to death of the "gaps," and I hear Tina and others promise the gaps won't be there with PR. I'm willing to commit the time to PR, but I just wish I could hold it in my hot little hands and look at it to see if I think it would work. I guess my question is...How do I know PR is worth it? OR if you use something else and love it, feel free to talk me into your program. And tell me what you use for writing/vocab/spelling, etc.
  9. I blog about the writing in PR b/c so many people find the samples unclear. Here is the latest application of my "I'm behind in blogging" series of PR3 writing. Let me know if you'd like some clarity. Notetaking, Vocabulary, Remodeling, Descriptive Writing and Dictation in PR3 Week 27 days 3&4
  10. I am wondering if the Phonics Road is a good phonics program for a Kindergartener that is a Wiggly Willy type boy. I guess the whole construction theme caught my eye and just wondered if anyone has used it and thinks it is a multi-sensory program that is both fun and thorough in Phonics. If so, please let me know, and if not, please tell me what you would recommend. Also, I have a rising 6th grader who has never taken any Latin before and is good with spelling and grammar. Would the Latin Road be a good fit for all of our LA needs? Do we need a seperate English program(I have Shurley 6)?
  11. :blush: I did my very first curriculum type post on my blog. Well, besides general gushing about Rightstart. Anyway, I'm linking it in case anyone is interested... It's nothing new, just a synopsis of how we do it based on one of the mom's suggestions on this board. I actually feel silly posting this, but I figure there's no reason to do a curriculum post if I'm not going to share it. http://www.givingourbest.blogspot.com
  12. I REALLY wanted to use PR, but I was afraid I would be over doing it by adding R&S English (which I LOVED with older dc). Does PR cover grammar as well as R&S?
  13. Math... she cannot do Math Mammoth on her own at all... would Teaching Textbooks work? Phonics Road... well, I really cling to this one because of the etymology. Other than that I was thinking... Spelling: How To Teach Spelling or Megawords. They have workbooks! I can work PR to be more independent, but I want to talk about this. Writing: We loved WWE when I used it. It isn't more independent, but we love it, and we don't love PR. Grammar: For us, the main benefit to PR is the diagramming. Growing With Grammar, GUM or Voyages in English, Queen's Language Lessons? History: We are using HOD. It doesn't take a lot of time, but we don't get to it half the time. I think I can just assign the reading instead of doing it with her. Science: I think can make it work with a workbook. Elemental Science has one... anything else? Spanish: I am open for suggestions. I might just stick to all the same, I am not unhappy with it, but we just can't seem to get it done and when we do it takes all of our time for the day and we do nothing else. I want to think about this because we are finishing up this year and the time has come to buy new things.
  14. (with ds8) and he loved and I liked the results, but....I don't think I can deal with the dvds another year for PR2!!! There were weeks that we didn't get spelling done because I hadn't watched the dvd. :( Also I want him to get the grammar more quickly than they have it scheduled, since he will be using it in 3rd grade rather than 2nd and he really, really needs to get some grammar to help him in his co-op writing class next yr (he hasn't had much at all.) I want him to have some sentence parsing and I see that PR2 has that. I did some Shurley at that age with older dd and the parsing for a year helped cement her parts of speech. I don't really want to do Shurley with him because it is cumbersome to teach. I don't see any other grammar program out there that I really like. One other thing-I don't think there was enough review of the words each week. I like the word attack skills it teaches though. He does look like eventually he will be a natural speller, so I'm not sure I need all this. I barely ever did a spelling program with older dd (natural speller) and she is fine. I don't think I would use the lit portion-just more dvds to watch and I don't like how it drags the book out so long, plus we JUST got done with this book! Agh, I just really don't think I can do the dvds again. Is it possible that I could just have HIM watch the dvds? Is PR2 really, really that worth it?
  15. I am so excited to start my Phonics Road 1 with 2 of my daughters. Some background.... the dds that I am using this with are 2nd and 5th grades. So, we are going to accelerate through this. I have read all the PR posts that I can find, but I have some questions. 1) When teaching the card marked "ear", why does does it only teach it as the /er/ sound as in early, not the sound /ear/ too? I am new to the WRTR methods, so I am just curious. 2) In the video, on some of the cards she says the sentence on them too. Are we supposed to teach them that part as well? For instance, on the "oa" card, she says "O, the two letter coat" Is that what my girls are to memorize? "EE, the double e"? 3) Since we are accelerating and once we get to week 5, do we work the words one day and test on them the next, plus work on a new list that same day? Ex.- On Monday, test on list 9 and work on List 10; on Tuesday, test on list 10 and work on list 11. Only do this as long as they are understanding and keeping up? I'm tired and I hope my questions make sense. Thanks, Katie
  16. How much writing does the literature portion actually entail? I'm curious because I see many people think it stretches out for much too long, and I believe that my dd will feel the same way. It's unlikely she's going to want to stretch it out to read again over 34 weeks (or however long it is), when we've already read it once and she'll want to go through the entire series again. However, she's a very reluctant writer (including the physical act of writing, not just deciding on something to write) and it won't be easy for me to accelerate the lit portion if it involves a lot of writing. I assume it does though, so I'm not sure what to do about it.
  17. I just received (bought used) my Phonics Road to Spelling and Reading Level 2.. I have 2 questions. 1. My Little House Study is missing pages i to iv (the framing that details focus points for the chapters (I think)).. Am I screwed? Or can I glean the info from the DVDs? (if so, which ones.. so I can start that before we actually need it.. As far as I can tell, this is the only missing thing.. 2. If I'm having my 10 year old accelerate through this..and he is a very good reader.. Do I just go over rules etc orally (like we did in PR 1) and not worry too much about the writing etc..? My main focus is to get him ready to start PR3 in Sept..I didn't want to just jump in with him with PR3 because his spelling was/is poor (but improving). While he enjoyed PR1 to a degree.. he was also pretty bored..PR2 looks great for my upcoming 2nd grader but I can see him thinking this is also "babyish" Thoughts?
  18. Besides the usual, "it's best to start a program from the beginning," is there any specific reason why I couldn't begin my rising 5th grader in PR3? He's just finishing BJU English 4 and doing okay with it.. his weak areas are spelling and writing, but admittedly that's probably because he hasn't had as much one-on-one time with me for the past couple of years (like his sisters did, sigh). I was thinking of having him do something like Easy Grammar/Spelling Power combo for this coming year (along with TOG writing), do the Bridge to the Latin Road in 6th, and then begin Latin Road in 7th, but I got thinking about the possible benefits of just using PR 3 and 4 over the next two years instead. I've read most of the (monster :D) PR threads and am waiting for my sample pack to be mailed to me. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
  19. I am a NEW homeschooling mom. I just finished TYCR100EZ lessons with my son with success (in my book). I have been wavering back and forth between PR, AAS and other new curriculum vs. Wester's Speller and McGuffey's readers. I love the look and reviews of the new curricula, but I love the price and history behind the classics. Do you have any advice for this novice homeschool mom? Do you regret using newer curriculum? Do you regret using the classic curriculum? Please tell me about your experience. :bigear:
  20. can someone give me a brief summary on how this program works. I know I could spend alot of time on the website, but my brain is not functioning too good right now. I am extremely busy with wedding plans for my dd' s wedding in 8 weeks! But, I would like to know exactly what this program covers and how teacher intensive it is. So, if someone could briefly tell me how it works, I can decide if I want to investigate further. THANKS!
  21. I cannot decide for the life of me which way I want to go for my sons LA program for 1st grade. I love that PR is all in one. But I am also drawn to FLL, AAS and WWE. This year for phonics we have used Hooked on Phonics and Explode the Code. He is reading ok, and the programs have worked but he just doesnt have the desire to read more than required. He doesnt have the love for learning I guess that some kids have, he just does his work as fast as possible to get it done so he can play. Maybe its the age but I just want a solid LA program so maybe he can start to love to learn and see that it can be exciting to learn new things. I am a new homeschooler and could use any advice you may have!! Thanks so much!! :)
  22. My dd5 is still only working through the sound teams in PR and filling in her building codes with them, but she LOVES PR, and already I am seeing it influence her reading (which is already pretty good). I can see her processing the rules as she approaches words she doesn't know. :hurray::hurray: She loves having her own notebook, cards to earn and the clipboard (that her brother does NOT have.) I'm giving it two thumbs up, in case you are looking at it for yourself.
  23. 1. Can you tell me what the expected outcome after finishing PR? 2. Were your children motivated to do their work or did you have to "drag them kicking and screaming" :)? 3. My concern is that it is boring or confusing. Is that true? 4. What should be my expectations coming into this curriculum? 5. Did you use additional reading for your children? 6. Is this really a comprehensive Language arts curriculum? 7. Which type of homeschool mom would be successful using this program? 8. Would you use this again?
  24. Title is supposed to be WHY DID YOU QUIT? No idea how to edit the title of the post?! I'm using PR1 with my 5 year old and liking it very much. I'm curious about the folks who have tried this program and it didn't work? Was it the DVDs? Was it something else? We are not very far into PR1 and I am just curious as to the "negatives" of the program that would make a family stop using it. Thanks!
  25. I have a 6 1/2 year old I'm trying to teach letter teams to from PR. I used it with my older kids but she's such a different learner. I haven't quite figured her out yet. She doesn't seem to learn audibly and she struggles with writing. I think her fine motor skills aren't what they should be (she has a slight developmental delay). Anyway, I need some creative ideas to teach her the letter teams. I'm tired of writing them on the board and repeating them with her. I also need some good ideas on how to get her to start writing her letters. She'll write only the easy ones - o, t, i, l, letters like that. Sarah
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