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  1. Omnibus -v- Challenge (Classical Conversations) I'm wanting opinions from people familiar with Omnibus and CC. I am really interested in how you like either one. I know that CC doesn't have a concentrated history part, although there's room at the end and during Christmas, I guess. Right now, we have one level of CC and I'm considering whether it's better to focus on getting other CC levels or someone to find someone to teach the Omnibus. I really want my daughter to be in a "group" situation once a week and then do the work on the other days..... Thanks for any opinions!
  2. Hi, I have looked over many options for middle/high school and have narrowed to two choices: Omnibus or Tapestry of Grace. I would like to one of them all the way through our remaining school years, we are currently nearing the end of elementary school. My goals are something with deep discussions, great books incorporated, yet still keep the love of learning. I am wondering about other's pro's/con's about these curriculums and their experiences. Did your kids find them too overwhelming or did they help foster a love of learning? Were you able to have meaningful discussions or di
  3. I've spent the last two days researching here and got a LOT of my questions answered. This forum is a goldmine!!! However, now I have all new questions after all the reading I've done ;) Please bear with me if any of this is redundant or has already been covered and I missed the thread! Feel free to link and redirect me to any threads your think would help :) My questions are: VERITAS: I've read a lot about how Omnibus is more GB with a little bit of history and I personally would prefer the subjects to be more equal. For those of you with Omnibus experience, does the program allow room
  4. I really like the look of Omnibus. I've gone through the Google books previews, checked out the book lists, and feel like I have a pretty good idea of the books. However, I have never really held one and been able to really soak it in. I do not know if that makes sense. I know that my son needs rigor with humanities. This is the major draw I have to Omni. He has already read a good half of the books on the book lists, but I would like him to begin having direct instruction in relating them to each other and the time period. The Biblical aspect is also important to me as we live in a
  5. Can I take a booklist like the ones given in Truthquest or Tapestry and then adapt it so that he reads material that are still rich in content, true to the story line, faithful to the theme and message, etc. of the originals? I have decided that my son is not ready for the original Greek and Roman works that are presented in Omni 1. However, I LOVE the Omnibus textbook. It is really excellent and still want the commentary, discussion questions, deep, probing, informative, enlightening, biblical basis on which the material is addressed. That said, I've been looking at those other curricula and
  6. Are there any experienced Omnibus users out there who could help me think through this? I'd very much appreciate any imput! I've always aimed at using Omni in high school, but now that my 13 year old son is finishing 7th grade I'm realizing it's going to be too heavy a load for him. I also have five other children and I need something he can handle largely on his own. Have any of you tweaked it to make it more doable for a non academic child in a busy family? I'm aiming at the "spirit" of Omnibus, but a lighter load. My son understands concepts. His vocabulary and sustained reading skills
  7. Does anyone know of any curriculum similar to VP Omnibus but not presented from reformed theology? We would love to intertwine history, literature, and theology but are not Calvinists. Obviously the study of Calvinism would undoubetedly come up but I'd love a curriculum that does not present this worldview as the "Biblical" model throughout. Thanks for any suggestions.
  8. Ok, so my oldest is only in first grade but I'm a "big picture" kind of person, and I like to have a general idea of what direction we're going to be headed in. That being said, what are your thoughts on breaking up the history cycle amongst your kids? We are currently doing SOTW and we love it, and I do plan to continue using it through 4th grade for my oldest. I have three other DC behind her, and they are all 2 years apart, so theoretically it would be very easy to stick with the 3x 4-year cycle as SWB advocates. But beyond SOTW I'm sort of lost as to what curriculum or spine will ta
  9. I am still finalizing my decision on the history/literature/bible curriculum for my rising 9th grader, and I'm completely out of time. I have everything else ready to go. I would love input from those who have used Omnibus - how teacher-intensive is it? I am having a tough time deciding between MFW AHL, and Omnibus III (Omnibus III would put my 9th grader in the same history period that the rest of my kids will be studying next year, so that would be nice...if we do MFW, we need to start at the beginning because of the way that the skills build). I much prefer the literature and theology b
  10. I am simply try to ascertain the level of Douglas Wilson's involvement in Omnibus. Have there been changes? I would really appreciate your observations on this. It was a question that did come up in the thread on the general forum. In an attempt to not "throw the baby out with the bathwater" I would really like to have a better grasp on the depth his beliefs penetrate this program. Thanks! and it would be lovely if we could keep our thoughts about him on the other thread. ;)
  11. I recently came across the Omnibus series in Veritas Press's catalog. Seeing this really threw a monkeywrench into my plans. Last year we studied Ancient Civilizations and the Bible with dd13 and dd15. The girls were very motivated in the interaction between research and hands-on projects which that program suggested. The program was great, (except that I felt it was simplistically preachy). Next year we are to study Medieval times, and I had prepared to do more of an historical-fiction based and webquest enriched survey of Medieval history. I came across the idea of Notebooking, wh
  12. Hello everyone, I have 4 children, grades 2nd - 6th. I am thinking ahead about starting Omnibus I in 2015 and hoping to gleam wisdom from all of your experiences. My questions are this: Having 3 younger students at the same time, will keeping up with the reading for me be doable? For those of you who also teach omnibus, do you, as the teacher, need to read all of the primary and secondary books? Before deciding on Omnibus, did you consider other programs like SL,HO, TOG, and why did you ultimately decide to move forward with Omni? Have you it been what you expected?
  13. I am looking for any ideas on a curriculum that is similar to VP Omnibus, but without such an emphasis on reformed theology (as we are not Calvinists). Any suggestions?
  14. Could anyone tell me if it is possible to start VP Omnibus II online in January? Has anyone started mid-year before and how was it? Also, do they pro-rate the tuition? I am feeling a little anxious and VP doesn't reopen until after the new year. Thank you for your consideration! Heather
  15. So, I was just wondering if, as parents, you sit in on your child's classes or view the Archived ones or just leave it to the online teachers... In other-words, how much do you keep up with your students studies if they are enrolled in an online course? Thanks!
  16. Would you/ did you start with Omnibus I or III? Why? Thanks!
  17. We have used TOG Yr One, and have enjoyed it even though it has only been through UG and D level books. I am looking to buy Yr Two for next year, 6th grade. I have looked at Omnibus I and must say... WOW! DS is Math and Science minded, most likely headed down an engineering path. He does love to read though, and talk and discuss... thus why we chose TOG... for the books, worldview, rhetoric, anaylsis etc. Now however, I am just at a loss. Not sure if he could handle the load of heavy Math and Science as he is headed down that path AND OMNIBUS on top of it all... BUT IT JUST LOOKS FABULOUS! Sig
  18. We are starting Omnibus in the fall, and I noticed that SWB recommends Kingfisher History Encyclopedia for the Logic stage. Can I get away with using KHE for a couple of years, or should I bite the bullet and order Spielvogel?
  19. I am thinking of using it and am wondering how you liked it if you have used it? Is it very time consuming? Too above grade level? Or perfect? Would you start in 7th grade like it supposed to be used? Thanks for your honest appraisal!
  20. How satisfied are you with what you are using? I'm asking for those of us who are thinking of switching from TOG to something different. I did this poll off the top of my head, so if I left out your curriculum/approach please post it in a reply. TIA Shannon
  21. I am trying to find out by searching online, which Great Books TOG uses. I am having a hard time. I know they use Norton's, so it's hard to tell. The Omnibus list is so easy to see, wondering if TOG does about the same? My husband and I have been discussing these two, he's really sold on the Omnibus and I like how TOG is organized :D. I too like the great books in Omnibus, but I get the feel that TOG doesn't do as many. Can someone point me it the right direction? Thanks a million. BTW, I'll cross post on the HS board.
  22. How did you deal with the discussion needs of the curriculum? Did you just have one on one discussions with the child? How did it work? Harry
  23. I've searched the forums, and haven't exactly seen my question answered, so I'll post a new thread. My ds is starting 9th grade this year. I thought about starting with Omnibus 4 (since it begins with Ancients) and taking it slowly, spreading the Omnibus 4-6 books out over 4 years. However, when I called Veritas Press to ask some other questions, they encouraged me to start ds in Omnibus 2, because he'd never done Omnibus before. "Omnibus 2 will give both of you an idea of what Omnibus is about. it's a better introduction." That surprised me. I wouldn't mind starting with Om. 3
  24. I am looking into starting my dd (9th grade next yr) with Omnibus III. We have been following WTM for two years, but she has not tackled anything as meaty as Omnibus. She is a good reader, but hasn't had to push herself through difficult material before--which I would like for her to begin. My brother used Notgrass last year with his dd (also 9th). Do you have any thoughts on either of these? Other recommendations?
  25. What is the benefit of using a program like Omnibus or Notgrass over doing history and lit as described in the WTM? I think SWB makes it sound so simple, but I want a Biblical worldview to be integrated as well. I will have to admit, though, that Omnibus scares the fool out of me! I love the idea, but even Omnibus I looks more rigorous that what I did in college. I don't want my son to get in over his head. He has been reading through the lit list in WTM for 8th grade this year (just writes a brief summary when done) and is taking a coop class for SWI B. Would he be able to keep up, esp
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