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  1. I need some advice as to how to do writing with my newly 9 year old DS. He has ADHD and dyspraxia which I realize challenge him in doing writing work (double whammy- attention to his thoughts long enough to finish writing the words and the muscle tone/control of handwriting). We've done WWE 1 and 2, IEW through writing a paragraph, and now BJU English. The WWE just got so repetitive (for both of us), he had total freak-outs with IEW when we reached the time and intensity of combining multiple paragraphs for storytelling so our most recent effort was BJU English. I thought that would be a gentler product because of the back and forth between writing and grammar. Awesome, we don't have to do writing everyday. Today was our first day in a writing lesson of actually moving thoughts to paper and it wasn't pretty. It was 5 sentences! His paragraph draft probably totaled no more than 20 words as he made them as simple as he possibly could. Example, in explaining how to play "Hide and Seek," he wrote...."Then, the seeker seeks." We've already started typing in hopes that maybe it's the actual hand on pencil on paper that's causing the frustration. I just feel so tired of the ongoing battle. He HAS to do writing, right? At third grade, I really don't think this is too much to ask but I trust the collective wisdom of the group. Any suggestions?
  2. This is a little embarrassing, but I really don't know what narration is. I would like to try it as an aid for reading comprehension for my 10 and 12 yo dd's, particularly in reading the History of US by Joy Hakim. And I don't have time right now to read WTM. What does it look like when you do it with middle schoolers?
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  4. I had ds10 type up facts as he came across new information. First he read the section, then he listened to it. He looked on the world map and atlas where everything was. On the second day he read the second section and did the same as before. On the third day he completed the map work and read the Usborne Internet-Linked Encyclopedia entries on both. He added more facts to his two sections in the chapter. He also decided then to write a paragraph on the Sepoy Mutiny. He had a choice between the two sections. On the fourth day he explored the Internet Quicklinks and completed the coloring page while listening to both sections one more time, this time one after the other. Since we did this particular chapter in two weeks (we began schooling on September 3, and started SOTW the following week), he looked at all his facts and typed up this paragraph today. What do you think? It is his first effort, and I don't want to discourage him, but at the same time I want a good product. I had to remind him to capitalize and instructed him again on where to add commas. I have to add that this narration is also closer to a Charlotte Mason narration instead of just a summary. Also, do you think I should have not helped him with his punctuation, capitalization? Written narrations are relatively new to us. I left his original sentence structures and the odd grammar in there. In 1857 Bahadur Shah, Governor of Bengal, was at a meeting, there the East India Company have bought a rifle, the Enfield Rifle. A normal rifle took time to shoot, but with the Enfield Rifle all you had to do was bite off the end and slide the bullet in. But the Hindus knew that the type of oil the Enfield Rifle was made with was animal fat (Hindus thought cows were sacred, Muslims thought pigs were dirty). The sepoys fought the East India Company's army but sadly.. the British army won. The mutiny ended in 1858, and Queen Victoria was now the ruler of India.
  5. I just returned from a lovely visit with one of my English professor friends who teaches at a small Catholic liberal arts college. She has complained before that the vast majority of her students need one-on-one tutoring on how to read college level literature and poetry. Now, of course, she does assign some challenging works such as Shakespeare and Milton, and her students aren't in the habit of reading for pleasure much less for mental enrichment, but she said that when she sits down with them it wasn't basic reading skills or vocabulary, instead she sees very quickly that the actual problem is that they cannot read a paragraph and "recite the meaning of a passage in their own words." They will tell her what they think it means which is usually way off or, in fact the opposite of the intended meaning, because they have failed to take into account important small clue words such as "If...then" or "Unless." They are also incapable of attaching the modifying phrases to the words they go with in the sentence causing confusion in their explanations. And as she described their inability to "recite the meaning of the passage in their own words," I thought "NARRATION!" And when she described their inability to notice important qualifying words and phrases and apply them to the right nouns, verbs, etc that they modify, I thought "DIAGRAMMING!" And I silently thanked Susan Wise Bauer and Jessie Wise for providing us with the stepping stones to college success one narration and one diagram at a time.
  6. I can see definite benefits to my son of having him narrate what he has read. However, we have never done this & I'm trying to figure out how to get started. Should I have him start with oral narration? How quickly would I move him to written narration? What should he narrate? His literature, his history, his science? Should he narrate every subject, every day? What is the difference between narrating and summarizing? Any ideas on how to get started with this at the high school level would be appreciated. Thanks
  7. Hi, just after some advise after purchasing the Story of the World. My eldest son is 5yrs 10 months old and we live in the UK. A month ago we started with FLL 1, so far we both love the program, he is learning lots and really enjoying himself at the same time. I also have a copy of WWE 1 which I intend to start in the early part of next year. My problem is with the History spine, the narrations seem much more difficult with lengthy sections to narrate from when compared to WWE 1. To me they look more suitable to 3rd grade in comparison. If I am honest, to narrate from SOTW chapters would make my brain ache. I think this is because I did not learn this skill at school and never really felt as though I had a good grasp of language skills. Something I do not wish to pass on to my children. Could someone give me their advise, could I perhaps ask the review questions after each chapter, colour a picture, complete a black line map etc... I really feel like the amount of narration in WWE 1 is plenty, for example " what is the one thing do you remember about the passage?" Many Thanks
  8. Last year I could barely get a sentence out of DS, he is 11, and in 5th grade. He is also dysgraphic and/or NVLD, so the physical act of writing is very difficult for him. He is very bright, and VERY verbal, with wonderful descriptive language, and an ear for inflection, but has problems relating a story in any kind of logical order. I tried WWS, but could tell by the second excerpt that he was going to really hate the selections, so I am working on narrations using a book of parables from world religions. I did a lot of reading over the summer, and I think I really understand the philosphy or copywork, dictation and narration, and I really want to get him into outlining soon since we are covering high level science and he needs note taking skills. Can you guys look at his narration from today and see if we are on the right track? I didn't correct it for perfection, as I don't want to nitpick and stop him from writing again. Ok, I tried to upload it directly, but my file is too big? Here is the link to his page as a google doc. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RO_bYJTK8Np0c9MEPl7zfhde3W5VaYZLg2vALoNjZao/edit He did this all on his own, with only a little bit of prompting from me to pick out the main points, and even erased a whole sentence when his words were much too close together. Does this seem like we are on the right track?
  9. Hi everyone, this is my first post. I've been lurking around for awhile to get an idea of what these forums are like and picking up any information I can. I'm new to homeschooling. I just started homeschooling my 6yo daughter last Monday, so it's all very new to us. My issue is with narration. DD6 has a very short attention span. It takes about 20-60 seconds and she's gone. I can get her back relatively easily, but then she's daydreaming again. Are there any techniques I can use to (1) keep her interested and (2) get her to remember what I read to her? She is a visual learner and today I did try to put more emphasis on making mental pictures and also I cut down narrations to one sentence. It just seems to be very slow going. *sigh* Any ideas or suggestions are welcome! Thanks!
  10. My ds is finishing WWE1 next week. We also incorporate Write Source some, although not a daily as I'd like. Anyway, he can narrate WWE with no issues and I am still writing the narrations and he recopies. We do dictation in spelling (AAS sentences) daily and copywork from poetry, FLL 2 and WWE depending on the day. For history, we use SOTW and I ask him th review questions, which he typically get right and answers with prompting in complete sentences, BUT I quit having him narrate b/c it was painful for both of us and made history last ages longer than it should...like 2 hours for 1 part of a chapter. We need to do it. I know we need to do it, but how can I make it easier? Should I just ask for one sentence or a main idea? I need a starting point. Also, I need to be doing this for science as well. We use RSO Life, I guess I can have him narrate the paragraphs before the labs. I'm also not having him do any narration on his independent reading. I'm failing at narration miserably, any jumping off advice appreciated!! :001_smile:
  11. So, after using Classical Writing Primer last year, I decided to switch to Writing With Ease for my 3rd grader this year after hearing a talk Susan Wise Bauer gave about the writing process, which seemed to make sense to me. I went back and started using Writing With Ease 2 since my son hadn't had tons of experience with narration and at times this year we have struggled with it. But at the same time, he is a strong reader, an avid creative writer, and so sometimes I've wondered if I am doing the right thing with either using WWE or with keeping him in WWE2. Today, I decided to let him just write out his narration instead of verbally expressing it and having me write it out, etc. He seemed to do much better writing it out himself than having to verbalize it first like usual. So my questions are: 1) should I just have him write out his narrations instead of verbally expressing them first? Is there value in having him orally summarize if he can do it in written form? 2) Should I just skip WWE2 and jump into WWE3, or are there other skills that perhaps we should master from WWE2 and thus keep going through it? (We are in week 23 right now.) I looked at IEW, but I just didn't click with it. I may still use Classical Writing. Just can't decide what will be best for him! Any advice from the Hive??? Thanks so much.
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