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  1. Someone, anyone, just tell me what to do and I will do it. I promise!! We just do not "do" it. I want to do it..the kids want to do it....we just don't....please just tell me what to do. :confused::confused::confused::confused: WTM notebooks don't happen. We have such good intentions and we try, but alas, not so much. My children are (in the fall) 7th grade boy (only mildly interested) and 3rd grade girl (VERY clever and VERY highly motivated) I just can't reinvent the wheel, so I would love to combine at least on some level. Secular would be preferable (though we are Christian). I'll do some experiments. I'll buy extra books. I just need a plan!
  2. Hello, Has anyone use Rainbow Science by Beginnings Publishin for middle schooler? What do you think of it? Thank you.
  3. I'm considering my options for middle school science, and am wondering if anyone has used the WTM recommendations for science. I'm a little nervous about the idea of going completely without a written curriculum, but really, I pieced together a lot of things myself over the past year and a bit anyhow, so I would probably be fine. How solid of a science education would the WTM recommendations give a child? My daughter is very science oriented (and has been since she had even the slightest understanding of what science is), so, just in case she decides to pursue a career in this area, I want to make sure I give her what she needs in this subject. Edit: For clarity, I guess I should say that I mean the recommendations that include not using a curriculum (like RS4K) -- rather, using a compilation of various things like science encyclopedias, and terrarium, dissection and experiment kits.
  4. I'm looking at middle school options for science, and am wondering if anyone has used RS4K for these grades. We've been using the RS4K elementary books and have really enjoyed them, but I'm feeling unsure about continuing because the program is only 10 weeks. For the elementary level, in order to round out the short program, I have supplemented with Janice VanCleave's experiment books, various library books, and science encyclopedias. It has worked out well, but my fear is that if I do the same for middle school, I'll miss something important. Experiences with this program?
  5. Does or has anyone done two or more totally different science curricula at the same time? I want to figure out how to do this successfully. We participate in a co-op every other week that uses a curriculum I don't care for. My children's grade levels prevent them from being in the same class so right off the bat we have two different science books. Before we made the final decision to do co-op, I purchased a science curriculum that I was very much looking forward to using with both of them. Last year we had this problem but managed to do the co-op curriculum (just reading the text, nothing else) as well as other science activities, not a real curriculum. It was hard to keep up with both though. Has anyone done something like this successfully? I think my younger student can handle it, but the older student's co-op science is more intense. We do co-op because my children really enjoy it and we have few opportunities for that kind of thing in our rural community. Thank you!
  6. I downloaded the book and went through it to compile a list of materials for each lesson/lab: 1.1 Molecules Matter Tall clear plastic cup Water (room temperature) White sheet of paper Food coloring (red, blue, or green) Small cup Dropper 2 drinking straws cut in half 2 index cards covered with wax paper 1.2 Molecules in Motion Hot water (about 50 °C) in a clear plastic cup Cold water in a clear plastic cup Yellow food coloring in a small cup Blue food coloring in a small cup 4 droppers 1.3 The Ups & Downs of Thermometers Student thermometer Magnifier Cold water Hot water (about 50 °C) Extension activity: Test tube, about 20 mL Isopropyl rubbing alcohol, 91% Small cup 2 small disposable water bottles (8 oz.) Food coloring Parafilm Thin transparent straw (either cut from a dropper or from a Capri Sun® drink) Hot water (about 50 °C) Ice water 1.4 Moving Molecules in a Solid Ball and ring ($14*) Bunsen burner for heating the ball Room-temperature water (to cool the ball) 1.5 Air: It’s Really There Materials for Each Group 2 clear plastic cups 8-oz plastic bottle Detergent solution in a cup Hot water (about 50 °C) Cold water Materials for Demonstration Basketball, very deflated Balance that measures in grams Pump Can of compressed gas (available at any office supply store) 2.1 Heat, Temperature, & Conduction Materials for Each Group 2 sets of large metal washers on a string Styrofoam cup filled with hot water Room-temperature water 2 thermometers Graduated cylinder or beaker Materials for the Teacher 1 Styrofoam cup Thermometer Hot plate or coffee maker Large beaker or coffee pot 2.2 Changes of State — Evaporation Materials for Each Group 2 quart-size zip-closing plastic storage bags Hot water Room-temperature water 2 squares of brown paper towel 2 droppers Materials for each student 2 Styrofoam balls (11/2-inch) 4 Styrofoam balls (1-inch) 2 flat toothpicks School glue Permanent marker 2.3 Changes of State — Condensation Materials for Each Group 1 short wide-rimmed clear plastic cup 1 tall smaller-rimmed clear plastic cup Hot water (about 50 °C) Magnifier Materials for the Demonstration 2 clear plastic cups Room-temperature water Ice cubes Gallon-size zip-closing plastic bag Extension Activity 1 short wide-rimmed clear plastic cup 1 tall smaller-rimmed clear plastic cup Hot water Food coloring Ice cube White napkin or paper towel 2.4 Changing States — Freezing Materials for Each Group Empty clean metal soup can Salt Ice Metal spoon or sturdy stick Teaspoon Paper towel Materials for the Teacher Pliers Duct tape 2.5 Changing States — Melting Materials for Each Group 2 small pieces of ice 2 small clear plastic cups Water Materials for the Demonstration Ice Dry ice (there is a video alternative, if you can't get dry ice) Brown paper towel Cold water Hot water (cont'd...)
  7. Hi, I was curious what criteria others have used to select science courses of study for 7th and 8th grade? I have planned to do Physical Science in 7th and Life Science in 8th for ds11. Initially I was going to select a more structured approach with a single packaged curriculum. This was mainly due to ease of use and grading. But the more I looked into them the more I really wanted to do our own custom, somewhat eclectic collection of texts and other supporting materials. However as I've been reading the High School forum I've realized that certain colleges not only accept middle courses, some require to see a course one might only take in middle school such as Algebra or Biology. These need to be documented and graded as a high school level course if they are. I guess that presents a bit more of a challenge when grading an eclectic science course one pieces together. I am also considering high school level Biology for 8th grade so that other more interesting sciences could be taken at the high school level such as Chemistry, Physics, Anatomy, Computer Science, etc... Do any of you think about satisfying some of the more basic high school requirements during the middle school years? Algebra for example is middle school standard now in California. I honestly wouldn't mind skipping Biology all together and jumping right form middle school Life Science to Anatomy and other sciences. I did this while in school and it worked fine for me. I also majored in Life Science at the undergrad level. But things may be different now. I also know this most likely varies by the college, university and state in which one applies. I guess I'm just pondering it a bit more now that I know some of these courses may be considered or at least effect what is taken at the high school level. We live in California and our kids will probably go to college here.
  8. In perusing the Rainbow Science site, I was glad to read positive feedback from SWB. Specifically, she's quoted as having said here, "This is probably the best homeschool science curriculum I have seen." Yet I can't find any mention of or recommendation for the program in the latest, third edition of TWTM. Our of curiosity, does anyone know when or where she offered that opinion? Thanks!:)
  9. My 6th grader will finish BJU Life Science this year (it's been a longgg year!). I'd like him to have a good generaly science experiance in 7th grade - fun, challenging (but not too much)- and that gets him ready for high school. I was thinking of Rainbow, but afraid it's not meaty enough. Any thoughts?
  10. I have cross-posted this on the Logic Board. I was going to just post there since my immediate need is for 7th grade, but thought maybe some of you with older students would be able to give me some perspective re: the future. I am trying to figure out what to do w/dd for science for 7th grade while keeping in mind a sequence for the future. For background purposes: She is neither accelerated nor gifted. She will be doing either pre-algebra or a light algebra course for 7th grade & Foerster for 8th grade. She is a very slow reader, but she does read thoroughly, i.e. she knows what she's read when she's done. We have not done much formal science. She reads, she explores outside, she's watched volumes of nature videos (e.g. Planet Earth, etc), she's messed with Snap Circuits, & we've done a few experiments. This summer we'll be doing the GEMS Bubble Festival & Oobleck guides as well as various other experiment books. After all that, below are the 2 sequences I've come up with. I'm not being specific about high school texts because I think it's too early for me to know what she'll be ready for. I think I'd prefer the second sequence, but I'm afraid that doing Physical Science in 9th grade could be problematic when applying for college. 7th—Science Shepherd Life Science OR DIVE Earth Science + Tarbuck OR Chemistry 8th—Physical Science Derek Owens course OR DIVE + Apologia 9th—Biology or Chemistry 10th—Chemistry or Biology 11th—Physics 12th–1 or more of the following: Adv Chem/Adv Biology/topic of personal interest 7th—Shepherd Life Science 8th—DIVE Earth Science + Tarbuck &/or Signs & Seasons 9th—DIVE Integrated Chemistry & Physics + BJU Physical Science + DIVE kit 10th—Chemistry or Biology 11th—Biology or Chemistry 12th—Physics & Adv Chem/Adv Biology/topic of personal interest Thank you for any help!!
  11. I am trying to figure out what to do w/dd for science for 7th grade while keeping in mind a sequence for the future. For background purposes: She is neither accelerated nor gifted. She will be doing either pre-algebra or a light algebra course for 7th grade & Foerster for 8th grade. She is a very slow reader, but she does read thoroughly, i.e. she knows what she's read when she's done. We have not done much formal science. She reads, she explores outside, she's watched volumes of nature videos (e.g. Planet Earth, etc), she's messed with Snap Circuits, & we've done a few experiments. This summer we'll be doing the GEMS Bubble Festival & Oobleck guides as well as various other experiment books. After all that, below are the 2 sequences I've come up with. I'm not being specific about high school texts because I think it's too early for me to know what she'll be ready for. I think I'd prefer the second sequence, but I'm afraid that doing Physical Science in 9th grade could be problematic when applying for college. 7th—Science Shepherd Life Science OR DIVE Earth Science + Tarbuck OR Chemistry 8th—Physical Science Derek Owens course OR DIVE + Apologia 9th—Biology or Chemistry 10th—Chemistry or Biology 11th—Physics 12th–1 or more of the following: Adv Chem/Adv Biology/topic of personal interest 7th—Shepherd Life Science OR Chemistry 8th—DIVE Earth Science + Tarbuck &/or Signs & Seasons 9th—DIVE Integrated Chemistry & Physics + BJU Physical Science + DIVE kit 10th—Chemistry or Biology 11th—Biology or Chemistry 12th—Physics & Adv Chem/Adv Biology/topic of personal interest Thank you for any help!
  12. If you've done a hodge podge of occasional science for elementary school, are there any must do's to prepare a middle schooler for high school science? Which science subjects would you choose and for which years(6th through 8th)? Thanks, Alison
  13. I have been searching and searching for a science curriculum for my 12 yo son for this coming year and am coming up blank. We used K12 independently for 2 years and he really liked the online, interactive aspect of it, but honestly we just couldn't afford it any longer. This past year we used Apologia and while I really liked it, my son was bored to death. Can you help me figure out what would be a good fit? I have looked at Pearson's Interactive Science and that appeals to us, but I can''t figure out if that is something that is available to homeschoolers or just schools. Also not sure how the cost would work out, since it looks like it would be several books each year. While something online or DVD might be better, we basically just need something fun and engaging. I am down to the wire here and completely burned out and even more confused from looking around. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. If you have any questions, ask away! :)
  14. I'm looking for a complete science program, secular in nature for my middle schooler that loves science. I'm hoping for something that isn't dry but that can continue to keep his interests going. He tends to do a lot of reading and watching of the discovery channel but is hesitant to do actual, science work, anything structured. He's getting to the age where I feel he needs more structure. I'm probably asking for a lot, but I'm hoping too that such program can be adapted to my second grader too--also a science fanatic. Does such a program exist? Any suggestions?
  15. Sorry guys but I am starting a new thread. I really need a list of rigorous science curriculam (secular or christian -just no apologia please!!)...Bear with me please... :D If it is not Christian I plan to subsitute with creation based young earth materail so secular is fine....no problem with it. I know several have mentioned BJU in other threads. If I were to do BJU what grade level would be best suited?? Could you list what you think is rigourous and why? I really need to figure this out by July. This is for rising 8th grader but we are thinking about having him do 5 yrs of high school instead of 4 so with that in mind....could you list the rigorous curriculam for middle school years for 7th or 8th grader?? Thank you so much! I will make sure this is the last science thread I start. I know it has been a redundant subject thread here. ;) Holly
  16. We have enjoyed using Rod & Staff Science (3-6), but I'm not getting the same warm fuzzies from their new 7th grade book. I'm looking for a textbook (works well with this particular child). Secular would be fine. Any suggestions?
  17. Looking at curriculum for 7-12th grade science. Can anyone give me their plans for these grades including which science and what publisher? All the homeschool families I know go Apologia all the way. Just wondering what else is out there. Thanks
  18. My boys attend an enrichment program 1 day a week. They get art & science, among other things. This year, my ds11 has had chemistry, and they're currently doing a space unit that will end in a simulated Mission to Mars. I'm not sure what they did in the other trimester, and I'm not sure what science he'll have over the next 2 years. I'm planning on keeping them in this program through 8th, when it ends. Dh likes that they attend, and they love going. We're not doing formal science this year, and I just don't see how we can fit it in in the future, since we only school at home 4 days a week. I guess my question is: Will I place him (and the other boys as they grow) at a disadvantage by not doing a formal science program next year or in 8th grade?
  19. My mind is swimming, well drowning, actually when it comes to teaching science in the logic stage and then on to high school. I could use a little guidance/advice from those of you with older kids. My biggest issue *right now* is that I can't decide what to study next year so I thought maybe I will work backwards from high school. But then I get really confused, because, to be honest, my brain can't think *that* far ahead. So basically, I have grades 5, 6, 7, 8 and the topics of Bio, Chem, Physics, Earth/Space to work with and could use some WWYD advice. Is there an ideal order to study these in? Which is easiest to cover, which is hardest? It seems like a lot of the Earth/Space texts for middle school are aimed at grade 8- is this the best one to save for "last"? But then again, it doesn't seem like any of the CPO texts are do-able by a child in 5th and I certainly can't cram 4 topics in 3 years. Why is it that there doesn't seem to be much out there for 5th and even 6th? From what I've read on these boards about Rainbow Science (and am I the only one who thinks their website is lacking? :glare:) it seems that it's geared towards gr. 7/8 as well. I'm leaning towards studying one topic per year and likely using a textbook (supplemented by living books but a text so I can more closely monitor what is being done/learned and not have to do the ground work myself). That's all I know. So far, I'm considering CPO, Prentice Hall, Rainbow and possibly using the Harcourt texts that Kolbe uses but instead of going by grade like they do, buying several grades and studying by topic. I don't even know what I want to use, probably because I haven't chosen a topic. I do know that with how our family is and with having littles, that I'm not going to have the time, energy, or mental stamina to piece together stuff like I read some WTM posters doing. I'd love to be able to do it but I have to accept my limitations. Plus I will still have history to wrestle with. Basically I'm having a hard time finding something for grades 5 & 6 that is solid, fairly rigorous (and includes labs), and planned out for me. I do not know which topics to study during these years so I can find materials that are the most age appropriate. What made/helped you decide what to study and when in middle school? Thanks for any advice you can offer.
  20. I'm not really sure what it is, but we are NOT loving this. I'm using it with a 4th & 5th grader that just begged to study the human body this year and after three weeks they are begging me to find something better. In the past we have done outside classes that are very hands-on. Last semester we did the science of bridges with K'nex. I really don't have the desire to spend my time tweaking and making it more fun & less textbookish. I've always heard good things about Jeannie Fulbright's books. Are they all like this? We just can't seem to get into it. Now what am I going to do? We need some fun around here!:lol:
  21. I finally am holding Discovering Mathematics 1A in my hand, and am very pleased with what I see. I have been worried that it would be too much to do DM with LoF Beg. Algebra, but I think it's going to work great for my ds. Like LoF, the problem sets in DM are not too long, although I am sure they will make ds think. The first book is going to be a fair amount of review, but taking things like factors and mulitples to a more sophisticated level. Also, I've gotten to really look at Explorer's Bible Study. I'll be using Beginnings II--God's Promises with my younger two dc, and Quest--In the Beginning with my elder two. From first glance, these texts only teach what is actually in the Bible, without adding any sectarian layers of meaning, which is exactly what I was looking for. The questions in the Quest level are very nice, and will make my dc think without being too hard. I just need to figure out how I'm going to have them share one book, as I didn't have the $$ for two. ;) I also think that Hakim's Story of Science is going to work well for my middle schoolers, along with the kit Milestones in Science. The reading level looks just right, and it looks interesting, as well. I am still not sure about the guide that goes with it. We're going to try some of the activities/worksheets in the guide, but if it feels like busy work, we'll just drop it. One thing I've realized, though, is that I've created more work for myself this year. I want a discussion component to LL, Explorer's Bible, and Story of Science, so I'm going to have to pre-read everything I assign my middle schoolers. We start on the 21st, so I guess I'd better get busy. :D
  22. We haven't done much science in our home school so far. We've done some My World Science, and they get some science through scouting, but that's it. Next year, I will have a 7th grader and an 8th grader, and the 8th grader is sort of starting to talk engineering as a profession. So, I am wanting to do a solid year of science next year, in preparation for high school sciences. As I look around, I am very frustrated with the lack of middle school secular science materials! :confused: I have younger dc as well who will be in 4th and 1st/2nd next year. I prefer open-and-go curricula, or curricula with a schedule laid out for me. My dc want to do one science all year, and go more deeply, than doing a little of this, a little of that. And although we would like something meaty, we don't want something that will take more than 2-3 hours/week. Here are what I see as secular options: 1. Prentice Hall Science explorer for the older two, MWS for the younger two--something about the SE layouts bugs me. The books I have seen look busy, with lots of sidebar-type stuff; they look very "schoolish." Also, I would have to do all the planning, right? Or are they open and go? I would have to collect materials for labs, right? 2. I would really like to use RS4K, but they only have chemistry out at level II. If they had all 3 books out, there would be no question for me what I would do. Since there is only chemistry, it's not be enough science for my middles schoolers. Which leads me to... 3. Teaching all the dc together using all of RS4K level 1, but beefing up things for my middle schoolers (and letting the 2nd grader just tag along). Is that even remotely feasible without a ton of work on my part? 4. NOEO chemistry III--I don't know very much about this level of NOEO, but if I can get things all in one box, with a pre-made schedule, it is more likely to happen. Some board reviews of the younger levels say it is boring, with too much repetition of the same types of work week after week; I don't know if level III has that same problem. I have just joined the NOEO yahoo group, but am waiting for approval. If we do NOEO, my younger two will still do MWS. 5. Singapore science? I looked at this a long time ago, and liked what I saw, but haven't really thought about it lately. Am I missing any other secular science options? I haven't gone back to TWTM to see what is recommended there for chemistry, so I suppose that's another option. Anyone else have any suggestions, thoughts, or recommendations? TIA!
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