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  1. Hi, so there is a woman in one of my online groups I've gotten to know a bit and I have sort of followed her social media with some jealousy. They are radical unschoolers and are always in nature and doing cool things and going cool places. Anyway, she and I were chatting via messenger when she mentions her soon to be sixth grader HAS NEVER DONE MATH. I nearly spit my coffee out all over the screen. There is part of me that is so entrenched in certain ideas about education that I cannot wrap my mind around it at all. The child sort of naturally learned how to add and subtract just by doing things, and the child knows a lot about measuring, because she is an avid sewer who makes her own clothes. That's it though. Never picked up a math book. No arithmetic. ZERO. I asked about fractions and percents because it seems like you'd need that for clothes to fit right, and the mom said she does a bit of guesstimation and understands simple fractions like half and third, etc. Why am I sharing this? Two reasons, one, the mom has asked for help, and two, I think it'll be interesting to see the progress of this child. Her other children just eventually gravitated towards an interest in Arithmetic, and she worked with them, sans curricula, according to what they needed to know via a lot of oral math and math with c-rods and stuff. One of her older kids became interested enough to self-teach lower level Algebra and Geometry. Otherwise, her kids are all free spirit types, attempting to move out into the world in crafty and artsy careers. This child though shows not one iota of interest and the Mom is beginning to worry. She's asked for advice and ideas. I'm not an unschooler, I don't even have any idea how that works. I tend to be eclectic but a user of curriculum and we are basically a mom-led and organized homeschool. First, what would you tell her? I want to be nice and not dwell on the "I can't believe you didn't make your kids do math" thing. She's given me a lot of helpful wisdom and advice in parenting and schooling over the years. The mom has said this child is an exceptional reader, consumes a lot of high quality literature, reads a lot of nonfiction regarding animals and their care, various sewing manuals, and a ton of things about clothes and fashion design. She is also interested in art and architecture and spends a lot of time in their local museum in the portrait and abstracts galleries. They have all been natural spellers, and picked up most of their grammar through usage and good lit. I don't have any reason to suspect (at this point) that the girl is anything other than neurotypical. Is there anything to tell the mom to consider besides pick up a textbook and get to it? I was thinking of recommending Strayer-Upton. Second, as I sat here thinking about this, I wondered what I would do if I found myself in charge of a middle schooler with no Math at all under their belt. I don't know if there is anything like a one or two year long basic arithmetic course. I'm wondering if there is some kind of comprehensive Arithmetic that just takes all of what you'd teach a kid normally stretched out over 6 or 7 years and puts it into an all-in-one course. I guess I'd have to find a adult text or something. Does anyone here know of something like this? I am really freaked out by this. I don't know why. I guess I feel like it is a mistake, to not have certain age kids learn certain things whether they want to or not. But if it is, then I guess I'd want someone to be gentle with me as I learned from my mistake and decided to change. What do you guys think?
  2. I know these editions are new. Has anyone done RS and gone on through levels G and H? My son is in level F (fifth grade) and I'm trying to figure out what to do for middle school and beyond. I emailed RS asking about the progression they used to recommend (starting videotext midway through the old level G) and I got the following response. We now have a Second Edition Level G and Level H that has taken the place of First Edition Level G. There was a lot of work done with the First Edition Level G that provides the teacher and the student with many improvements that help the student work through the program. The improvements are so vast that we are no longer selling the First Edition Level G.. In addition, more lessons have been included in Level H that will include the final elements to Pre-Algebra. So, when the student has completed Levels G and H, they will then have the Pre-Algebra math credit and are ready to start high school Algebra. No longer does the student need to work through any RightStart Math level along with VideoText Algebra Here is a sample schedule that your son can use: 5th Grade - Complete Level F 6th Grade - Level G 7th Grade - Level H 8th Grade - Algebra program of your choice Now I'm confused because the Videotext algebra sequence includes prealgebra so if we do both G and H we would have to skip the Videotext prealgebra course. I think that might be a bad idea. It makes sense to stick with the same curriculum for prealgebra and algebra so the teaching method is the same. Has anyone done RS through middle school (G&H) and gone to something besides videotext for HS? The question I'm asking may be unanswerable simply because the new edition hasn't been out long enough.... Just looking for input/suggestions from anyone who has been there. Thanks so much!
  3. I am wondering if anyone here has used Sadlier-Oxford Pre-Algebra program and Dimensions 7/8 (Singapore) Math and could give me some input on those programs.
  4. Hi everyone, I'm finally trying to take the plunge into classical methods in earnest, but we've used Khan Academy as our math spine for years now, along with Math Mammoth (just couldn't slog through it for some reason even though it's really thorough and good) and intermittent use of old Houghton-Mifflin Mathematics school texts. DD12 is roughly 2/3 of the way through Khan Academy's Pre-algebra mission, but when I gave her a few tests recently, I saw to my dismay that she didn't apparently understand fractions, decimals, and percents deeply enough not to get caught or bewildered when given problems "off the hip" that didn't follow her familiar format. Though I expected the Fractions book to be too easy, she stumbled on the Bridge Activities, and now I am considering having her go through it, as well as the Life of Fred Decimals book, before letting her move on, either to Life of Fred Pre-algebra, or else something else. We'll keep the Khan (it has been useful for years, and helps me keep track of progress) but I am now looking at Life of Fred for my younger ones, too. My question is, has anyone else found LoF to be good for remediating conceptual lack? And what do you use for procedural mastery, alongside it? Everywhere I look for reviews on LoF, I see almost nothing but glowing testimonials, but what I want to know is, is it rigorous enough on its own? It doesn't include repetition or "practice" so what do those who need more than a bit of conceptual "aha" moment, do for that? Does anyone have success or failure stories to share, with their use of LoF? Has anyone else transitioned into it after using other things, and how did that go? What has it been like for those who started off with Fred? Thanks for any help.
  5. So can someone tell me about Singapore Math post-PM6B? I really like that it is an integrated approach to math, and that they have work books to go along with it but...How do all of the different programs fit together? Why are some of them 1/2 canceled and the others not...I am confused. What happened to New Elementary Mathematics level 3 and 4? Why did they cancel them? Is it possible to order them from a different site perhaps? What is with Dimensions Math being retitled Discovering Math 1 and 2??? Are they planning to rewrite and publish the rest of Dimensions Math as Discovering Math 3 and 4? If so, when will that be out?
  6. Many math problems (with solutions) from the Intermediate Math League of Eastern Massachusetts (for middle school students) are at http://imlem.org/meetdoc/index.htm , in the areas of geometry, number theory, arithmetic, and algebra. I am interested in other sources of contest problems.
  7. My DS who is in 5th grade is doing Singapore Math. My question is, does Singapore continue into middle school or would next year be a good year to switch? If we were to switch what would you recommend? Some friends have suggested Saxon, but I am unsure. I want an easy transition. So if you used Singapore and switched, what did you switch too that would teach all the way through high school.
  8. Hi! Our family is just beginning homeschooling, and I have been researching math curriculum. Both boys began their education in a classical Christian school and have done well in math. What math curriculum would you recommend for a 3rd and 6th grader? I have looked at Singapore, Math Mammoth and Saxon. I can't spend a fortune, but do want a rigorous program. One consideration is that the 6th grader is starting a hs curriculum so late in the game, and I want to set him up well for success in the higher grades. I know many curriculums end or transition after 6th grade. Any and all input so appreciated!!! :) Hannah
  9. There seems to be a lot of pressure around algebra, I'm not necessarily talking about this board but in general. I'm curious as to the general trend on this board vis a vis algebra. We have always taken math slow and steady; my oldest isn't gifted in math, but I'd say he's competent. He's finishing up the Singapore series this summer, having started back when he was 4 yrs with the nursery levels. We do all the supplemental books and trundle along. It is common for folks to say that Singapore is "ahead" of other programs; they even say on their website that they are half a year ahead for "average" students, and on track for advanced. Well particularly here I'm reading so many of you have children who not only are finishing on track, many are finishing early. So I was wondering whether kids are in general more advanced and maybe I'm holding him back by going so slowly, or maybe I'm just not hearing about those who are average in math, or maybe my ds is simply not good in math. We will be starting Discovering Math in August, and he will officially be in 8th grade. ..and finally, is there a reason to really push for algebra earlier, if your child isn't particularly gifted/interested in math? I mean average in math, not behind... (The poll allows for multiple choices.)
  10. I finally am holding Discovering Mathematics 1A in my hand, and am very pleased with what I see. I have been worried that it would be too much to do DM with LoF Beg. Algebra, but I think it's going to work great for my ds. Like LoF, the problem sets in DM are not too long, although I am sure they will make ds think. The first book is going to be a fair amount of review, but taking things like factors and mulitples to a more sophisticated level. Also, I've gotten to really look at Explorer's Bible Study. I'll be using Beginnings II--God's Promises with my younger two dc, and Quest--In the Beginning with my elder two. From first glance, these texts only teach what is actually in the Bible, without adding any sectarian layers of meaning, which is exactly what I was looking for. The questions in the Quest level are very nice, and will make my dc think without being too hard. I just need to figure out how I'm going to have them share one book, as I didn't have the $$ for two. ;) I also think that Hakim's Story of Science is going to work well for my middle schoolers, along with the kit Milestones in Science. The reading level looks just right, and it looks interesting, as well. I am still not sure about the guide that goes with it. We're going to try some of the activities/worksheets in the guide, but if it feels like busy work, we'll just drop it. One thing I've realized, though, is that I've created more work for myself this year. I want a discussion component to LL, Explorer's Bible, and Story of Science, so I'm going to have to pre-read everything I assign my middle schoolers. We start on the 21st, so I guess I'd better get busy. :D
  11. My boys are finishing up BJU 6th grade math this year. We used RightStart and loved it, but finished all but the geometry, and chose BJU for this year - it's been fine. My boys are good math students - not brilliant, but able to handle everything and perform very well. When I look at the 7th grade BJU, it seems like it's so much review. We review every concept all the time (BJU is great for that) already. So I feel like they will enter 7th grade having pretty much mastered the 6th grade material, and don't need all that review. It seems like every Jr. High math program is this way - the same material every year, but just in a bit more detail, until they get to pre algebra. I think 6th grade it too young for pre-algebra. I don't really want them in Algebra in 7th grade. I think. Doesn't that seem too young? The elementary math progression seems very good to me. The High school math progression makes sense. But jr. high seems like a muddle!
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