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  1. I apologize if this has been discussed already, but my searches both on here and google are coming up empty. Has anyone used Royal Firework Press's Michael Clay Thompson Mentor Network before? I used (and thus own print copies already) MCT's 1st 2 levels of language arts & literature curriculum. However, my job has subsequently gotten exponentially more demanding so I have started integrating more and more online courses. My older two (11 and 13) are blossoming in this environment, but my youngest is 8 and thus not taking that many. I love MCT's grammar approach so I was looking aroun
  2. Hi For those of you with experience with MCT Language Arts, l plan to start this curriculum next fall with my son who will be a 9th grader and has HFA. Because l don't want him to miss anything, l have been collecting cheap, used copies of the older editions of the early level TE's in order to fill in any blanks in his knowledge. Language Arts are not his strong suit, as he is more math/science brained. That being said, I am just curious to know at what level people have started their older kids who are new to the curriculum. He can tolerate things addressed to younger kids, as his social
  3. I meet tons of people who have used the first three levels of MCT, but have yet to meet anyone who has used all seven levels. If you have used MCT through high school, please share how your child did through the program. What was their academic experience after they were done? TIA
  4. I am planning for my fifth grader, who is fairly strong in language arts. He will have finished First Language Lessons 4, MCT Island Level, and also WWE4. I plan to use VIE for the grammar, usage and mechanics and NOT the writing. My overall 5th grade grammar & writing plan involves: working through MCT Paragraph level; writing across the curriculum for a while; partway through the year picking up with an alternating schedule of Writing With Skill and Classical Writing Homer. Would y'all suggest VIE 6, since Rod and Staff 6 is recommended after FLL4? I want to keep him challenged
  5. I'm finding it difficult to find a writing tutor who embraces the MCT style like many of us on WTM do. I am not terribly comfortable teaching writing myself, but I can't find anyone else who really knows or understands materials by Michael Clay Thompson. But having read Essay Voyage twice now, I'm beginning to wonder whether I can't swing this on my own. While MCT is huge on this board, in the real world it seems to be unheard of. Do any actual schools use MCT? Are there any math-y or science-y or non-writing people who teach writing to their kids? Using MCT? Please
  6. I want to use mct for the grammar section only. After reading lots of threads on this, it seems that both grammar island and sentence island have grammar in them and I should get both. Also, I am planning to get practise island - both student & teacher books. 1. Is this what you recommend? 2. Can I get just the teacher edition of both books (grammar island & sentence island) or do I need student editions as well? 3. How updated are the new editions? Would getting an old edition used be a good option or have they really improved them so that I would want the newer edit
  7. I have been sucked into MCT. I must honestly thank the forum for this because it looks great and is much needed around here. My issue becomes where to start. As much as I tried to find information online, it seems to elude me. The samples at MCT won't seem to come up correctly. I figured y'all have a ton of experience and could help. My son is a humanities kid. Like many kids on this forum are ahead in math, he is ahead in literature and language. Writing had never been of much interest to him, however. He can write very well when required, he just fussed about it so we kept it to
  8. My dd (9 years) has done Sonlight LA all the way through. I have added in an old Rod and Staff orally. She will be about 5th grade next year, language art is fine but not an extremely strong point for her. She knows basic parts of speach most of the time, can write paragraphs from Sonlight with a fair bit of enthusiasm but a lot of issues. Next year I want to up the grammar and writing. She does best with specific instructions and step-by-step methods. What does MCT offer that Rod and Staff combined with Wordsmith Apprentice or Check the Deck doesn't offer? I keep hearing MCT is deepe
  9. I've been reading Magic Lens with my 7th grade dd, and we just hit the verb chapter. Whoa. The difficulty and complexity of this grammar instruction is beyond my understanding. I feel like how I suspect non-mathy folks feel about AOPS. I've never personally had this level of grammar instruction, particularly all those perfect forms, and I'm getting nervous about teaching it. Can a non-grammar parent survive the 3 remaining MCT levels of grammar? I need some hand-holding and reassurance. Has anyone else learned as they went through upper levels of MCT grammar? Or are all you Magic Le
  10. I would love feedback on how these programs compare. If you have used one or any, please let me know your thoughts. We have used FLL for one year. I personally find level 1 to be great and level 3 makes me want to gnaw my arm off slowly. My dh likes them both, so he does that work and he would like to continue FLL because of the repetition, copy work, poetry, and memorization. My kids don't mind them, but I wouldn't say they look forward to them with anticipation. I do like the poems, memorization, and copy work. We haven't used WWE or IEW. What do you like or dislike? If you combine
  11. I saw this on another list I'm on and the look interesting. Anyone here heard of them or used them? Here is the link... http://www.rfwp.com
  12. Getting ready to hit the submit button on my order for MCT materials but I am debating whether I could go with the "Basic" packages for both Island and Voyage ... or if I truly will need the "Complete" packages for both. If you purchased these items before, do you feel both student and teacher books are necessary or can I get by with just the "Basic" package contents just fine. It will save me $105 if I go with the cheaper option. And for those who have used Level 4 (Lens and Word 1 materials) do you feel the complete package is a necessity or is the basic package adequate for this lev
  13. MCT Literature Program Special pricing until early July 5th!
  14. In late March of this year, I had the privilege of attending all four of MCT's workshops in Cincinnati. I came with some knowledge of the curriculum, having spent a good deal of time looking at the samples online, printing out the free downloadable goodies, and listening to the video clips of MCT. After having attended just one of the workshops, I knew this curriculum was what I have been looking for! The problem is: I don't know where to start with my boys. My oldest son will be going into 7th grade next year. He has done years of grammar (Abeka, Easy Grammar Plus, Analytical Gram
  15. Several weeks ago, I had the privilege of attending all four of MCT's workshops in Cincinnati. I came with some knowledge of the curriculum, having spent a good deal of time looking at the samples online, printing out the free downloadable goodies, and listening to the video clips of MCT. After having attended just one of the workshops, I knew this curriculum was what I have been looking for! The problem is: I don't know where to start with my boys. My oldest son will be going into 7th grade next year. He has done years of grammar (Abeka, Easy Grammar Plus, Analytical Grammar) and has
  16. I find the amount of love for it to be fascinating and am keeping an eye on the year-long usage results to see if I want to use it next year. :D We have some new curriculum this year that I have definitely developed a :001_tt1: for, so I'm not knocking MCT. I'm just wondering what type of teaching/learning style MCT is a hit for and what type it's a miss for.
  17. DD has finished KiSS grammar 3. I'd like to try MCT because it looks interesting and similar to the qualities of KISS that we enjoyed. like analyzing real literature. Where do we start? She knows the material in KISS very well. KISS covered the identification of: parts of speech, complements (pred noun, pred adj, direct obj, indirect obj.), prepositional phrases, infinitives..(some others, but it's late, and I can't think.) It has already taught her to analyze every word in a sentence and tell which word it modifies. (They use a chart, which she loves filling in.) She really
  18. I was just wondering if anyone has seen SWB weigh in on MCT? It is not recommended in the WTM, but there is so much discussion about this program on these boards I thought maybe she had commented on it at some point. Just curious...
  19. Aack! LA decisions stress me out! I am a math/science person, and I'm feeling like I need lots of hand-holding for teaching writing. Right now my (almost 4th grade) dd is working through the Island level of MCT. We like it, but I wish it had a little more hand-holding (like, read these pages, then do this assignment). I don't feel like dd is doing very much writing. Recently, I remembered that there are assignments in the back of Sentence Island. I'm trying to do more of those assignments, but they still don't seem to amount to very much. I seem to remember reading that the difficult
  20. I'm jumping on the MCT band wagon (I'll expect my welcome packet soon) but have some questions before I order. I see that in the hs basic pack it only includes the teacher books because you can get the exercises from them. How does that work though? Are the worksheets there with the answers or are there blank worksheets too? I'm confused. Can someone please help me out before I order? TIA!
  21. There were several of us at the beginning of the school year that took the plunge together and ordered MCT or had already been using it. I would love to hear how everyone's year turned out. Will you be using it next year? What level did you use? What level will you use? Did you use all of the components or some of them? If you supplemented, with what and why? Did you make changes along the way or did you stay the course? Were you happy with test results? It would be great if you could weigh in if you have been using the materials 6 months or longer, in order to keep the reviews as helpful
  22. I was reading the writing activities in the back of Sentence Island. One assignment is :write a short story about 2 characters. One can only speak subjects, and the other can only speak predicates. And there are more of these.....I am concerned. I wonder if my son can do this at all. I see lots of gnashing of teeth adn rolling eyes and tears. I thought at this stage children should mainly do copywork/dictation. I was not concerned about creative writing at all! And Building Language says to write poems !!!:lol: I can not see that going over well either. So- do your children do
  23. We have finished Grammar Island and have been working our way through Music of the Hemispheres, but we've recently come upon a stumbling block. My son is really having trouble with creating the original poems. I think he is getting the literary elements that we've discussed, but he's just having trouble coming up with the writing part. He is a reluctant writer anyway, but he's always seemed to excell at poetry in the past. Should we just do them together? Skip them? Keep at it until he writes something (I don't favor this option, but my dh sort of does)? He has sailed through Grammar Is
  24. Looking through the site, it looks like the program should be started with a 4th grader or advanced 3rd grader. However, in a recent poll I noticed that a lot of people are starting with 1st and 2nd graders. So, when is it best to start? Is there a lot of advanced reading and writing required? If so, I cannot imagine my 6yo (who likes to write but not read) going for this program. Would it be reasonable to do FLL and WWE up to 4th grade and then start with MCT or would that be too "old" to start the MCT 'cycle'?
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