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  1. Okay, just getting some opinions here for high school would you say: Sonlight 100, then 200, then 300 then 400 all would have the sonlight writing assignments graded by writeathome OR writeathome comp 1, 2, 3, and 4 OR MFW all 4 years of high school with the writing graded by write at home. He will also do Apologia Biology, Chemistry, Physics, then something else He is beginning Rosetta Stoine Portuguese level 2 in the fall We are part way through Analytical Grammar we'll do something for the rest of electives etc.... not sure about them all yet. Just trying to decide between MFW and Sonlight right now! I am a terrible writing instructor just for the record. He has done writeathome 6th, 7th and if finishing 8th grade composition now. So, any advice? I will also be teaching my 7th dd and I'm deciding what to do for her as well. Currently we are doing sonlight core 5 and we really enjoy it, but the high school cores are so different. I'm worried there wont be enough pen and paper stuff as far as history is concerned. Thanks so much for your advice and opinions. Blessings Sandra sonlight writing
  2. I think we're using it next year and I want to know any pros and cons before purchasing.
  3. Can anyone compare and contrast these? I have a gazillion questions about both... With SL: Is there literary analysis? I've read there isn't actual writing instruction, which is fine - we use IEW. But does it give guidelines about content when it comes to grading the writing assignments? Is there any sort of rubric? What do people use for world history, since there isn't a true world history (only 20th century world history)? With MFW: If a student were to come in as a sophomore, what should he do, since the whole thing takes a solid 4 years to do? Since we use IEW, will this be a problem when using the MFW writing assignments? I like SL better than MFW in the younger years, but I like the content of MFW for high school better. However, the literature may be too difficult for my kids (my oldest in particular). Also, SL uses Hakim in 100, which my oldest LOVES. But it also uses a lot of historical fiction, which he hates LOL. Help!
  4. I have three kids. We are leaving TOG. I just can't do it anymore with working full time. I know we have discussed this at length on this board. My Junior son will be a senior this fall so he will finish out his year with MFW 1850 to present. My middle school 8th grade son who will be a freshman....finishing TOG yr 3. I would love for him to continue on but realize that is impossible. So I guess I will have to start him at Ancient History and Lit right? He is not my big writer like my oldest is. He is not my humanities kid either. He is all scientific boy. Should I consider having him do 8th MFW instead of Ancient History and lit?? Now I know this doesn't fall under this board category but those of you that ussed MFW with youngers that are here can help me. My daughter is 12 and has learning disability and HFA. She is doing math at 2nd grade level, reading 4th grade level but comprehension is shaky, doing WWE1 and FLL 2nd grade, Fulbright Flying creature book for science, SOTW along with TOG but she struggled even with this and in at lower grammar. I am looking at catalog online and I would like to start her at Creation to the Greeks yr 2?? Is this doable?? Also how do I cut cost with MFW? Meaning what do I really need to buy from MFW and then what I can buy 2nd hand or elsewhere? Going to cincy next week so will spend time in booth trying to decide. I am on a tight budget right now so I can't buy the kits. Thanks! Holly
  5. I would love to hear from anyone who has used MFW for highschool. I'm considering it for 11th and 12th grade with my ds. I'd appreciate hearing all pros and cons. Thanks so much!
  6. Anyone used this that can say, was it a good choice? Did your child take the CLEP test with success? DD has been doing group classes. Next year (11th grade), all other kids are enrolling in public or private school. She really wants to stay home. I'm overwhelmed with decisions. I'd really like her to take a couple of AP or CLEP tests, in 11th & 12 grades. We don't have much of a dual enrollment program where we are, rural. Thinking the MFW Am History, Apologia Physics, prep for AP Lang, Algebra 2?? She's done: 9th grade Geometry Chemistry World History (Sonlight 300) German I Health/Nutrition 1 semester & 1 semester sewing Speech / Analytical Grammar / Lit in Sonlight PE 10th Grade BJU English / Lit German II (Powerglide) Re-did Algebra I Biology Business Tech (SOS) Model UN Fine Arts - German Missions Team with local school
  7. Would you recommend adding in any additional lit? I am planning to have dd read the books recommended in the Notgrass book even though its not in the MFW notes (as far as I saw) but would you recommend any other ancient lit??
  8. and I wish I had a pseudonym under which to ask this... But I am really asking for my own info NOT to be mean... Does anybody else think that MFW seems rather basic...Ie the 2-8 rotation seems way too basic for a 6-8th grader, and the high school rotation seems really basic for a high schooler. I realize that MFW is making full use of all the resources shown, and that they require depth of discussion and lots of essays in high school. But I still can't see, in looking at the samples, and in looking at the materials, that it's college (like university, scholarships, and maths and sciences) prep. ...OK there it is. Please be nice! I really really am looking at MFW for next year for my kids. I would really really like to find a Christian "full curriculum" that my dh could agree to and that I would not feel the need to tweak. And that is why it has to be rigorous...otherwise I will stick with my other plans. PS the high school seems better than using the 2-8 rotation for a 7-8th grade...so I'd like your thoughts on it for 7th and 8 graders too.
  9. most of the threads I am reading are about AHL and WHL. Has anyone used either of the other two years? Looking into it for next year-we have used SWB's HoAW and HoMW w/other books and will be up to about the 1500s. I'm also a little intrigued with WP's Royal's and Revolutionaries.
  10. My 15yod approached me last week with a huge smile and asked me if she can please continue with MFW next year. While I'm thrilled she has enjoyed her first two years of MFW I do not know anything about the U.S. History programs. If you are using this program or have used it in the past would you please tell me the pros/cons of it? Did you feel the literature and writing components were sufficient? Anyone wanting to sell their package after this semester could PM me... (hint hint). :D
  11. I am planning to use MFW high school with dd in 9th grade next year. AHL teaches the argumentative essay, but I would like to know if it would work for dd to also use A Rulebook for Argument for a .5 credit in logic. I've read that SWB suggests to read a chapter in ARfA and write a page or so to demonstrate the lesson taught in each chapter. I think this is what we would do. (Do you all use it this way?) There is also this workbook that we could go through. I'd love to hear from anyone who has used this or knows about it: http://www.amazon.com/Workbook-Arguments-Complete-Critical-Thinking/dp/1603845496/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327579026&sr=8-1-fkmr0 Please let me know if ARfA with MFW is a good match or if it is overkill. Honestly, we've never seemed to be able to work in logic in all our years of homeschool. The three "Rs" have always taken us all day to do, yet it seems like writing argumentively is very important for success in college. Therefore, I'm trying to work it in gently.... in a way that hopefully will not be too time intensive. (Something doable in which dd can experience success and learn this critical skill.) Thank you for any help!!
  12. I met with the school yesterday and they are still not sure they will give me credits for the MFW curriculum. I showed them the scoring etc. I feel like it may be a bigger hassle than I am willing to face right now. I would hate for dd to do a semesters worth of work for zero credits. She already has the Abeka grammar and comp book(half way through that is what they use at her school) and the Abeka Spelling/vocab half done. I think maybe I will stick with those b/c TWTM recommends them anyway. Then pick up the teachers manuals? Does anyone know how much of a difference there is between the forth and fifth edition? She has the fifth. For lit I am thinking about making a list of great works and letting her pick a few to read. Then for the grade I will either give her a quiz or have her write a paper. We will also discuss, but not for a grade. Also thinking of adding in The rule book for arguments. We already have these in place: Algebra~ ALEKS Spanish~ Rosetta Stone HS Geography~Trail Guide to World Geography/ Around the World in 180 days/Geography through art Biology~ continuing at the high school So that leaves me with trying to find a Bible curriculum. Can anyone recommend a good one? I was really excited by what MFW had to offer for Bible. Thoughts? Does this look like a good plan?
  13. Background first: We have been using TOG for the past 3 years. Yr 1, 2 and 3. Right now I have a R son (16 soon to be 17 yrs old), D son (14 yr old) and LG daughter (she is 12 but due to her special needs she is LG). My daughter is ok with using TOG. I have a very hard time finding the books that TOG recommends at the LG level and the other level which name escapes me at the moment. My two boys do not like TOG. My D son says it is not fun at all. My R son says it is ok but really rather focus more on American history. We are in Yr 3 Unit 4. He feels there is not enough time on US history. He doesn't like the questions being asked in the workbooks I make for them. I do the workbooks like one of the posters on here. I can't remember her name either. (new laptop guys so none of my bookmarks have been transferred yet) I work a full time job and homeschool the kids. TOG I love very much but it is too intensive for me. I am spending more time planning and finding books or trying to find a replacement due to the library not having it or it is OOP. The boys want a open and go but fun books. I do not want to use textbooks and neither the boys. I want to keep all the kids on the same cycle for history. My R boy likes the organization of TOG however is tired of me trying to plan and make workbooks. He wonders if there is a program that is similiar but less intensive on my part where he doesn't have to depend on me to get the books and make the workbooks. For english: we are using Analytical Grammar with the boys. My daughter is using SWB's FLL and WWE. My middle school boy is using the WWS (he needs a lot of work in area of writing...he is not my liberal arts guy...my oldest is). Geography: All kids need help in this area for current geography. One drawback of TOG is no current stuff on Geo. Do like the fact they learn about the time period of geography. Right now we are debating holding my oldest home for another year. He is currently a Junior. We are debating not letting him go to college until he is 19. He will benefit greatly with another year at home. It is HIS decision. We are talking about it with him. He is in a serious committed relationship with his girlfriend. She is 2 years younger than him. Both parents are encouraged by their relationship. :) PTL!! However the drawback is he wants to start college and start life with her when she is halfway though college. Her parents do not want her married until she is 20 or older. He sees both options as positive. So this is a big factor in our decision to stop TOG or continue. He sees the positive of staying home another year and not graduate till 2014. His friend is doing the same thing. We do not know yet of his decision. Still talking and praying.... Continue in next post:
  14. I have read many threads on this forum stating that the full BJU online/dvd program makes for a LONG school day in the high school years. I am wondering how MFW AHL compares. I have a dd that I would like to challenge but not to the point of total frustration. What are your thoughts? I am wanting something to use for her for next year, where everything is laid out for her. Thanks!
  15. I've spent hours this afternoon reading previous threads, and I know there are a few current ones too. I have several specific questions; I'm hoping you'll bear with me. My ds will turn 14 at the end of August and be a very young 9th grader. In the past, we've chosen a lit-based history (usually SOTW), but he seems to forget everything within a few months. For the last year and a half, I've tried changing things up a bit, but I've been bad at following through and the curriculum (both formal and pieced together) did not click for him. He has no learning issues, does not seem to have a preference for learning style, and is willing and motivated enough to do schoolwork. As he gets older, he's preferring to work more independently. He's a check the box kind of kid who does not get excited about large amounts of reading. I find MFW attractive because of the scheduling. I think ds would benefit from the variety of readings, catching different bits of information from different sources. My questions: How feasible is it to skip the book Taking the Old Testament Challenge? I'm not familiar with Ortberg and prefer to do our own Bible study, but I'd consider Ortberg if it were necessary for the program. Do I need the Ken Ham :glare: book? I suppose I could swallow that one if necessary. I wouldn't use The Purpose Driven Life, and I would use our own study on the Book of Daniel. Am I correct in assuming these specific resources are less important to complete the curriculum, and that I can substitute something I feel is more appropriate? Notgrass is spread out over two years. Is the book eventually read in its entirety? (While I loved Notgrass American History, older dd loathed it.) My other thoughts/concerns. Will Notgrass be overwhelming--boring, as it was to dd? The lit selections are intense, but it is much less than what he's done in the past so should balance out. He's particularly interested in Greek/Roman mythology, so he'll like that. He's kept a timeline notebook, using those same figures, for many years, so that will be completely familiar to him. Thank you for any suggestions/ideas/comments. It's quite an investment, even piecing together used, and I'll be praying about what to do.
  16. As for high school history, I've been pretty much decided on MFW high school for a long time: student-directed, integrated history, Bible, and English, and well-organized... this sounds just so perfect for us. I have asked about this before, but I need more data!!! :001_smile: Problem (if you want to call it that): We've been off schedule with classical history. This year we are all studying Middle Ages. So, next year, Dd's two younger brothers will continue with our current history cycle and will be ready for early-American history. If we use MFW for high school, this means we'll have American history and ancient history going at the same time next year. I don't really like this even if the oldest is independent. Before I decide for sure on MFW, what American history would be best for high school that my oldest can use so that all of my children can be studying the same history topics together? I do not want TOG.... I crave open-and-go material. My sons will probably use something that incorporates SOTW. I'm thinking of WTM history or History Odyssey.... I also own the History Channel's DVD America: The Story of Us. I definitely want to use this. The bottom line: 9th: MFW Ancient history and lit 7th and 4th: Early Modern (early American) OR 9th, 7th, and 4th Early Modern (early American) using History Channel's America: The Story of Us with _________________. Please make suggestions.
  17. If you're using MFW high school, would you describe your role as the mom/teacher? What do you do at the beginning of the year to prepare to use the curriculum, and how much time do you put in on average per day/week? I'd like to hear about MFW high school from a mom's/teacher's point of view. How have you tweaked the curriculum to fit your needs/student's needs? Is it easy to use the rubrics to grade writing? How parent intensive is MFW high school especially if there are younger kids to teach? Has your student been able to follow the lesson plans from the get-go, or do you transition them into this skill by offering help? If you could give advice to a first-time user, what would it be? I'm seriously considering this for my 1st high school student next year. (Dd is currently taking a local outsourced English Comp I class that we are really enjoying. If she continues with English Comp II next year, I would have to choose something else for history to use with that class instead of using MFW. Otherwise, there would be too much writing... kind of like having two English classes. I love that MFW is 3 credits in one curriculum, so this is kind of a tough choice to think about right now.)
  18. How has your year gone? How was the work load? Were your dc able to pursue outside interests, or specialize in their favorite/best subject? Was there time for colledge courses? How did you like the lesson plans being written to the student? I really like MFW, have been planning to use it through high school, and am just really curious about it. Thanks!
  19. Can anyone who has used MFW US History part 1 tell me what the writing assignments are like ? Have you liked this year as well as the previous years of MFW highschool?
  20. I'm considering Beautiful Feet and My Father's World for high school history. My children work best with the literature approach, as opposed to the textbook approach. I would like to hear from some people who used the high school curriculum from these companies - what did you like and dislike about them? Also. . .what is the English like in high school with MFW? Is there actually grammar work, or is it all writing?
  21. I decided to take a leap and try My Father's World ancient for my son's 9th grade year. I don't remember much about the SAT but I'm assuming there is history? We haven't done much American history and I'm concerned about the fact that Amercian history isn't covered until 11th and 12th with MFW. I also don't remember when the SAT is taken - is it sometime in the junior year, senior year, both? Should I be concerned about the fact that my ds may not have much American history beforehand? Before deciding on MFW, I considered doing Notgrass World in 9th and Notgrass American in 10th. I'm a little confused and overwhelmed.... Thanks! :)
  22. Ok, so my son is not quite in hs yet, but thought I may get a little bit better direction over here. I am not really getting any response on the other board. Could an 8th grader do this? My ds really wants to do ancients this coming fall. I figured he could just go ahead and do it and then we'll follow along in the 4 year cycle, and figure out what we'll do that last year of hs when we get there. A little bit about him. He really, really enjoys reading, but is not a very academic kid. He hates to write, however, it is one of my goals for this year to improve his writing skills. On most days, he also has a hard time staying on task with his school, I have to constantly re-direct him back to what he is supposed to be doing. So would this program just be too over the top for him? Think it may work? What if we stretched it out to a year and a half? Or what other program might you suggest? Would Biblioplan be a good fit, using MOH, or Streams of Civilizations, or SWB's History of the Ancient World? Or should I just pick a spine and do my own thing? I appreciate any hlep!! =)
  23. If you have used any of the above program for history, lit, and bible, which one do you find rigorous, thorough, and easy to follow? I like them all, but I want to hear from those that have used one of these programs, or maybe all of them and how your son/daughter liked them. This is important because we are on a budget this year and if I can get a good deal on them, then I will buy it. I am actually going to be buying it with my own money because I am getting a job which will help pay for my curriculum (I cost more than my siblings lol). So I really want to make the right purchase. Which one is great for more independent users? I like that the bible is used in TOG and MFW, and Sonlight kind of costs a lot unless I will be able to find it used. A description on any of these would be most helpful for me.
  24. We have used Sonlight from the beginning. My ds thrives on the reading. He will be in 8/9 grade this fall. He is young. My strengths and academic training is in the sciences. We started Ancients this past fall,but I had to go to work full time and we are still hanging out in Egypt. At the Cinci convention, I brought my ds to the MFW booth and showed him their Ancients program. His comments? Where are all the books? I have to answer questions for everybook? That kills a great book. I finally decided that we would stay with the SL track. If it isn't broke-why fix it route. I purchased Teaching the Classics from IEW and we were back on our eclectic route.. I am second guessing now. Oh to have the Lit and LA integrated and planned. The snippet below from MFW board appeals to me: "..think one of the aspects that stretched her the most were the writing assignments. It was not only the writing itself that was challenging, but also how it helped her to grow in her biblical world view. After reading 4 of the literature pieces, an argumentative paper is written comparing/analyzing an aspect of the literature with a biblical world view. The argumentative form is what is general asked for on college entrance exams and is one of the primary of most college papers." I would have to pull together our LA. SL has writing assignments. but they do not lead a student through the process. I do not feel that I can adequately choose 4 pices of lit and an argument to apply. How do you approach these things if you are doing aSL like approach. If I purchase Bible, Lit ( Lightning or Lit Lessons from Lord of the Rings) and History, it adds $$$ up to more than MFW each year. I do not want to kill his love for learning. I have not been a text book lover so purchasing everything seperately seems so disjointed, but this is what public school students do. They have separate history, lit/eng... Please give me another perspective...
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