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  1. Does anyone have a suggestion for evaluating progress in LOF Calculus? My son is doing well on the problems (self-study), missing very few. But I need to evaluate his current progress compared with traditional Calculus study. Any advice is welcome.
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  3. Once in a year I got math anxiety :) This year I'm worried about 'finishing in time'. So I wondered how long it takes to cover AoPS Intro to Algebra and / or LoF Trigonometry. In your answer I want to know, how much time you devoted to math per week, what was included ( using other material outside the book) what was skipped (challenge problems, chapters). And how many months you needed. Is LoF Trig a whole year or a semester book? (Or even less?) As dd is in the language track, she will have 3-4 hours math per week during grade 11/12. We won't have time for 6+ hours math per week. Thanks for answering! ETA: tags
  4. Which Life of Fred book would you recommend I get for a 9 year old (4th grader) whose main math is Saxon 6/5? He completed Apples through Dogs a while ago. Does he really need to pick back up with Edgewood, or can he jump in with Kidneys?
  5. I'm getting ready to buy it this weekend, but I'm not sure what the difference is between the Expanded Edition and the regular version. Also, do you need the Zillions of Practice Problems right away? Or can we work on the main book for a couple of weeks before I buy that, too? Thanks!!
  6. Does anyone know exactly what math topics are covered in Life of Fred's Intermediate series - the Kidneys, Liver and Mineshaft books? I've seen his "scope and sequence" and I really can't make sense of it. Thanks!!!
  7. So the kids and I have decided to move away from Saxon math for the upcoming school year. My youngest ds has been working on Math Mammoth & LOF successfully after leaving Saxon after completing Saxon 1. My oldest dd (rising 8th grader) has done well with Saxon but really wants a change. She tried out Teaching Textbooks at our convention last week and loved it. She will be using TT Alg. 1 with LOF....supplementing with Khan Academy if needed. I hope I'm not messing up her future line of excellence in math. :sad: Here is where I'm running into some issues. My rising 5th grader scored average in math calculation & math fluency but above average in applied problems. (First of all, she is my toughy child...hard to get her going unless it is something she is interested in, like horses.) She has used Saxon 5/4 all year...first part with Saxon Teacher (and mom looking over shoulder) then the rest of the year with Mom teaching it. I know it just didn't click with her. We finished Saxon 5/4 and I even purchased 6/5 (still in plastic). Oh, and she is a LOF lover, too. I gave her the placement test(end of 3rd grade) for Math Mammoth last week ( I already own light blue 1-6) and she scored a 163/207 with 166 being 80%. Her greatest difficulty was the geometry, measurements, & fractions. I emailed Marie Miller, MM creator, and she suggested that I concurrently go over these 3 difficult chapters with first part of 4th grade MM. Just out of curiosity, I gave her the TT placement tests and she ended up placing in 6th grade. So, knowing my dd is excited about using MM, now she is excited about TT. :toetap05: I am thrilled that she is even excited about MATH at all!! :001_smile: That of course got me thinking....Would I be crazy to let her do Math Mammoth 4....(this is for 5th grade)....working to 5....concurrently with TT6....and LOF on Fridays? Alternating days maybe? Any suggestions? We will go ahead and start the MM3 difficulty chapters with MM4 very soon....then maybe in a couple months start TT6.
  8. If I have already asked this before...forgive me..I surely cannot find the post if I have. Curious how you grade/determine mastering Life of Fred. DS is doing Algebra. The website says this: ***In the books starting with Life of Fred: Beginning Algebra, there are six Cities at the end of each chapter. If the student can do any one of the six Cities with no errors, then award an A for that chapter. If the student's best score on the six Cities is one error, then a B. Two errors = C Three errors = F Do you go by this, do you grade differently? If so, how do you grade? Thanks Debbie
  9. Trying to make final decision for math for my 2nd grader for next year. He is technically still at a first grade Math level. He has SPD/ADHD/ and some delay issues, though he has made HUGE improvements over the last 6 months. He loves working on the computer, but cannot do that exclusively or his learning is still unbalanced. I am planning to use LOF with him next year, but need to combine it with a different program for reinforcement. Several sources have recommended Professor B, but I'm not sure it's hands-on really. The computer component is a possibility, but from the examples, I am not convinced. Right start math looks interesting, but possibly very time consuming. So, I am asking ya'll - the experts and the experienced. Any help would be appreciated.
  10. In doing some research on MUS, and if it would be a good fit for our situation, I noticed that quite a few people mentioned using LOF to supplement MUS. I'd like to know more (for those who do this), about why you felt LOF was a good supplement to MUS? And why you would need to supplement it? Thanks so much! :)
  11. Would you consider the Advanced Algebra enough to be a stand alone curriculum if we used all 3 books? (the textbook, home companion and zillions of problems book) My daugther wants to use that alone next year but I am hesitant. Thoughts? Another question- does LOF Geometry include proofs?
  12. My situation: DD is 10 and finishing 4th grade with K12. I like and dislike K12 math, so I've added Singapore Math and Horizons Math to her daily math. Horizons works well for review, but Singapore is not a good fit, and I'm looking to replace this with Life of Fred. My questions: How long are the books? If we went back to the last three elementary books (Kidneys, Liver, and Mineshaft) then onto the next books (Fractions, Decimals, and Elementary Physics), is this over-the-top to consider doing in a year? DD does well with math, but it isn't favorite subject. She gets the concepts quickly, yet needs to practice the concepts to cement the ideas. Does LoF offer plenty of practice? If not, What do you use for practice.
  13. My 7 year old has really taken to the LOF books in the past couple of weeks. He has read all of the elementary series, and parts of the Fractions, Decimals and Percents, and Physics books. I know he's just reading and not working the problems, but I figure he's got to be absorbing some of those math concepts along the way. I'd love to find more math-oriented books with an interesting story line similar to Life of Fred. What can you recommend?
  14. I need some advice on math programs. My 8th grade daughter is in the middle of LOF (Life of Fred) Beginning Algebra. She did Math Mammoth for 1st through 6th grades. Last year she went through LOF Decimals, Fractions, and the two Pre-Algebra books. She really enjoyed LOF and she was in the 99th percentile for math on the PASS test at the end of the year. This year is different. She is getting frustrated with LOF Beginning Algebra. She has to involve me much more than she did last year (she was quite independent last year). She feels that it moves too quickly and doesn't give her enough of a framework to hang the concepts on. I don't want to eliminate LOF. I like the way he goes beyond the rote memorization of formulas and really brings math to life. However, my daughter needs some additional help at this point. Can anyone suggest another program that would be good to do along with LOF, that would lay out the concepts in a slower, more structured way?
  15. I am doing physics next semester with two 8th graders. I really like LOF and was thinking of doing LOF physics with a kit of some sort. Any reviews? I already have snap circuits. Any good physic kits out there? I was looking at this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002HABZU/ref=s9_simh_gw_p21_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0QW8TGW290MQ62H3179C&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1389517282&pf_rd_i=507846. Thank you!
  16. If you used LoF Elementary Physics did you use it as a primary text, as a supplement to what primary? Did you use an experiment kit with it? Make your own? I need help planning for the year starting in August for 8th grade for my DS who will be 13. Thanks ahead of time.
  17. I am going to start LOF Apples with both my boys. Sure, they are beyond that (especially my older ds) but I thought it would be good review and we could move fairly quickly through it. However, my younger ds is not a strong reader so I will read aloud to him. Does it make sense to do this as a read aloud for both or should older ds just read it himself? And I can't quite see asking him to do the now it's your turn bits, unless he feels like it on his own. So, does this sound like a reasonable approach--read aloud to younger ds, do the now it's your turn stuff with him. Have older ds read himself and not require him to do the work at the end of the chapter, until we get to Fractions and beyond that.
  18. Or are there still more to come? (Reading at the website implies it is complete, but doesn't say it outright - not that I saw anyway.)
  19. Disclaimer I am not related to Fred :), Dr. Schmidt the author, or anybody in Dr. Schmidt’s family. I don’t sell LOF or get kickbacks, etc. etc. etc. :) A Basic Description Life of Fred “Apples†is the first book in a series for elementary arithmetic. Apples has 18 chapters or lessons. Each chapter is a short story about an hour or so in Fred’s life; Fred, being, of course, a five year old university math professor. We read a short narrative about the crazy things that happen in Fred’s life and at the end we get to answer a few questions--usually about 5. The author asks that your student get out a piece of paper and write out her answers, not just skip over to the answer key. Each lesson takes about 5-7 minutes to read and about 5-15 minutes to work through the problems. We do a lesson a day. What’s covered “Apples†dives right in there with math sentences (6 + 1 = 7), solving for the unknown, commutative property, ordinal numbers, knowing the days of the week, sets, months of the year, geometry, counting by fives, and some algebra (3x +4x = 7x), telling time by hours and minutes. He also covers deciduous and evergreen trees, ante meridiem, the life of Archimedes, chess, and the Titanic. I don’t think that’s the exhaustive list, though. Who is this curriculum for? From here on out, what you are reading is just my opinion and experience with the book. First of all, my 13 year old grabbed this book as soon as it came in the door and devoured it. Next, my 10 year old grabbed all four of the elementary books so far and read all of them. Delighted, that’s what her smile kept telling me. I am very happy that my dc are reading books about math. So, this book is for them. I actually purchased this book for my 6 year old son in first grade. We sit on the couch and read it together and then he takes out a piece of paper and he writes down the answers. When he comes to a word that he cannot spell, I just write out the word and have him copy it. I find using this book to be very similar to using “First Language Lessons.†Very often, my 4 year old son joins us because he also wants to hear about Fred. Ds4 does not always know every answer, but with just a bit of time, he can figure them out. Obviously, this kiddo is not writing out the answers, but he is definitely following along and holding his own. I am also reading this book with my 8yo dd. She knows the answers, but the book is not boring for her by any stretch. Also, she is learning science, literature, geometry, and the names of math concepts. She is also benefitting from this book. I am also learning a few things. Apparently, this book is also for me. When can a person start this curriclum? Opinion follows. Well, if your child can count to 10, recognize numbers to 10, count discreet objects, and is not easily upset if they don’t easily know the answer to a problem, then I think you should be fine. If you or your kid gets really upset if she doesn’t know answers, then I can see how this book might get pretty frustrating. For instance, right off the bat, Fred talks about days of the week. If a child doesn’t have a clue about days of the week, it will be a big learning curve to be able to answer the question, “What is the second day of the week?†One of my dc is a perfectionist. Trying to answer this question if she was unprepared would bring about weeping. First her, then me. It doesn’t seem to bother ds6, however. We just practice saying the days of the week and months of year. I know that he’ll get it before the end of first grade. And, anyway, isn’t that what first grade is for? Learning the months, years, your address, etc? I think the book is meant to be a gentle, enjoyable, read-aloud math discovery for children ages 6 to 99. 10-15 minutes a day. Is this a stand alone curriculum? Hmmm. Well, we’re using MUS to teach the concepts, but as I get better at teaching math (because MUS has taught me!) then I depend a little less on MUS workbook pages and more and more on LOF. If you are a really mathy person who is also a good teacher, I don’t see why you couldn’t just use LOF. I can’t wait to start “Butterflies.â€
  20. Any math gurus have an opinion on this? I'm wondering if Life of Fred Calculus can be a stand alone calc course. My dd finished Alg2 through another publisher, which definitely included some trig (I've noticed that's not necessarily a given with Alg2). I didn't think of using LoF as a stand alone, but now am seriously considering it after seeing a couple of books in person. According to the website, LoF contains the following: LoF Trig Sines, Cosines and Tangents, Graphing, Significant Digits, Trig Functions of Any Angle, Trig Identities, Graphing a s inb(x + c), Radian Measurement, Conditional Trig Equations, Functions of Two Angles, Oblique Triangles, Inverse Trig Functions, Polar Coordinates, Polar Form of Complex Numbers, Preview of all of Calculus. LoF Calculus "two years of college calculus" [but maybe more like 2 semester??] Functions, Limits, Speed, Slope, Derivatives, Concavity, Trig, Related Rates, Curvature, Integrals, Area, Work, Centroids, Logs, Conics, Infinite Series, Solids of Revolution, Polar Coordinates, Hyperbolic Trig, Vectors, Partial Derivatives, Double Integrals, Vector Calculus, Differential Equations. I'm wondering if she started Trig now, then did Calc, all with LoF, do you think that would prepare her for a Calc AP exam (BC? or maybe AB). I've read a few old threads on the boards here and while there was some discussion, I couldn't find people who had actually done it. Thanks for any help!! :)
  21. My 8yo boy really enjoys the LoF books, but primarily as fiction, which is ok, since it is not his main math curriculum. If a child likes LoF stories, what are some other adventure stories he would probably like?
  22. Just heard from the author of the Life of Fred books that the first four of the elementary series is available now from Z-Twist books. Someone on here had asked that I re-post when the author contacted me, so here it is: http://ztwistbooks.com/oscstore/index.php?cPath=21 Scroll down; they start with "Apples".:001_smile:
  23. Do you have particular favorite to recommend (preferably with a complete answer key)? :)
  24. Well she's not so much mad at me as at the situation. She's very bright in math and has been ahead from the beginning. Last year (6th grade) we did LOF Beginning Algebra and AoPS Introduction to Algebra. She did great. I was ready to move on to Geometry this year (7th grade) but frankly I'm starting to panic about math credits. In our area, things are very competitive in the high schools and nearly everyone takes Algebra before high school. But even the most advanced students don't do more than Algebra and Geometry before high school. If we do Geometry this year, that means Algebra2/Trig in 8th grade, Pre-calc in 9th and Calculus in 10th. Most colleges I've looked at want 4 years of math done during high school, so even though she would have Calculus she wouldn't have enough math. We have a community college but its not really an option since it caters to to main groups - adults going back to school and kids kicked out of high school. Either group would be very difficult for a young girl to be with. Graduating early is also not an option because she's an athlete hoping for a gymnastics scholarship and will need the full 4 years to develop her skills and get ready. Plus - why rush being young? So I decided maybe we need to just do more Algebra. She's not pleased. She has a heavy load this year so I thought having math be pretty easy would be a blessing but she's not convinced. She'll do it if I want her to but maybe it's not the right option. Do you think I can just keep going with math and worry about it when we are done with Calculus? LOF has Linear Algebra and Statistics but I don't want to end up with things on her transcript that schools might think are bogus since some schools are less ready to believe homeschool transcripts than others. I don't worry about my oldest because she's only applying to Christian colleges that are very homeschool friendly. Since this one is looking for an athletic scholarship, it's very unlikely to be a Christian school. (as far as I know only Seattle Pacific is the only Christian college has a competitive gymnastics team) So I have to be more 'main stream' prepared. Sorry to babble so much. Thoughts? Thanks Heather
  25. I was talking to an engineering friend of mine today who has looked over the LoF Alg. She thinks it's just fine as a stand alone math text. What do you think?
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