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Anyone use the games on Lively Latin for multiple children? I need to know how to set up more than one child but can't get an answer directly from them. I would love some help from someone who's done this before. Thanks so much!
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Help me decide on 4th grade Latin...Latina Christiana?
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I'm looking at starting my 4th grader in Latin next semester. I was looking at buying Latina Christiana for him (It's in my RR cart...) But then I realized I already own 2 (no make that 4!) Latin programs. Geesh! I should just delete this and run away before you guys throw tomatoes at me. :leaving: Now that I think about it, I've got Getting Started with Latin, Minimus, First Form Latin 1, and Lively Latin 1. I started to use FFL with him (since I was already using it with dd13), but quickly realized it's too much for him right now--we didn't even get through the introductory lesson before I shelved it. Minimus is fun and all, but it doesn't really teach. I loved the explicit, grammar approach of FFL, which is why I'm considering LC1. Lively Latin annoys me for the same reason. I took my oldest through it in 3rd/4th/5th grade, but I felt like we chanted a lot of stuff and learned some vocab without really learning any of the "why's". It wasn't until we started another Latin program that I discovered what a noun declension is. And she'd been chanting declension endings for almost 3 years! Maybe I could use it with him. It felt like busy work and a waste of time... but he'd probably enjoy it anyway and it's independent... GSWL is still a possibility. I tried it with my older ds when he was in 2nd or 3rd grade, and it was too hard for him after 20-30 lessons, but this ds has more grammar experience and is better with language. Sooo... any opinions on Latina Christiana? Does it do a good job teaching the grammar of Latin? Is it engaging? Is the amount of writing appropriate for a 9yo? Should I just forget it and print out a chapter of LL for him to try? I'd really like to get him into the MP First Form/Second Form series when he's older, and I'm wondering if LC will help us reach that goal without killing his love of learning Latin.- 19 replies
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Hi, everyone. It seems almost incredible to be writing this, but DS will be in 6th grade next year. He has been studying Spanish, and now I'm going to add Latin to the mix. Neither one of us knows any Latin. I may be able to understand a few things because of knowing Spanish and a few other languages, but I have never studied it. I looked at samples of the Big Book of Lively Latin 1 online and it looks perfect for DS, who will be a fresh 11 by then. I see that there are three different versions to buy, though. One is the printed, the other the pdf version you have to print yourself, and the last one online. How has this worked for you in reality? I have a few things I print, but this seems like a GIANT book to print, and I don't have 100% confidence in myself or the printer to print out that many pages. I think DS will like the history interwoven as well, as we are rotating back to Ancients the same year. My question is then: which one is better, the actual printed book, or the online version? How does the online version work? Is it interactive? Does it work consistently? Are the pages consumable in the printed version (I have two girls coming after DS)? TIA!
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I have just bought LLB1 for my daughter who will be 10 in December. Previously we were using Getting started with Latin & a separate grammar curriculum. For those who use LL do you have a separate grammar curriculum, or do you find LL enough. I am thinking it would be super to combine the two. Thanks
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Okay, with LL2 coming up still for my older, and my younger about to finish Prima Latina and start BBLL1, I finally lost it last night and said no more single sided printing! Yet I like the way she suggests organizing the notebook by page type. I printed chapter 15 last night duplexed, by making a list by page type and printing in batches, so all the lessons printed double-sided, then all the exercises, then all the history, and so on. Then I went back through and wrote down the schedule (ie, do lesson 15.1 and Ex 15.1 ; history pages xx--yy; etc). Now I can go ahead and print on half the paper, still have him organize his notebook properly, and know in what order to do things. If this is just too obsessive for anybody else, that's okay :). But if anybody else wants the roadmap, holler and i'll post it as I go back through chapter by chapter so nobody else has to reinvent the wheel. It's also easier for him to have a binder half the size!
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We have gotten as far as Lesson 5 in BBLL1. One thing that doesn't seem to be cementing for DD is declining nouns and conjugating verbs. The practice in LL seems too sparse for it to click. Vocab also tends to fall back out of her head awfully quickly, and she's starting to hate the flashcards. I found some picture flashcards on the LL site that I think might help with the flashcard/vocab issue because DD is a very visual (pictorally, as opposed to seeing words in writing) learner. Anyone have any suggestions for extra practice of declining and conjugating that might be at least a little bit fun?
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I just downloaded Big Book 1. There seems to be a lot of choices! I'm not clear how to work through the lessons. >Should I go through in page number order, flipping through the sections as I go? >How long do you spend on LL each day or each week? I've printed out the introductory stuff and the first 2 lessons and put them into their tabs in a binder. But I'm sorta stuck there. :/
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I'm working on planning for the upcoming year and would like to find out how much time your kids spend each day and how many days per week is spent on any of the following curricula: Writing with Skill Story Grammar for Elementary MegaWords (and how many practice pages per study session) Book of Lively Latin Science Fusion History Odyssey, Level 2 Ancients Wordsmith Apprentice This isn't all we're doing, and so far the way I have her subjects laid out, a couple days a week seem unreasonably long. I'm curious to see how long your kids are really taking to get through assignments. Thank you! Darlene
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My dd just turned 9 this week and is doing 3rd grade level work. She finished LLBB1 today, and I *still* can't decide what to do next. I'm a little concerned about the scope and pace of BB2, and that it will be too much for dd. She loves LL, and has done fairly well with it. She has trouble with memorization and even though she has worked on vocab daily since starting LL, she still has to look up some of the vocab, especially from the last half of the book. I also usually have to walk her through the first few sentences of an exercise when doing translations; she is still learning how to work step-by-step systematically (is this normal for a 3rd grader, btw?). We have done all the components of LL (except for the History of Rome book) in order to give us more time to try to cement the vocabulary and grammar concepts. These are the options I'm considering. 1. Move directly into BB2, moving at whatever pace we need to. Pros: *continuity of scheduling, grammar, vocab, etc. *Dd enjoys LL Cons: *At the pace we would probably need to go, it might take us 3 years to get through BB2...ugh! *Too much? Too fast? Too difficult? 2. Spend the remainder of the semester reviewing all the grammar/vocab from BB1. I've already gone through all dd's worksheets and have pulled out the teaching sections that we could use. Pros: *Dd would probably benefit from the review. It seems something has clicked in the last few weeks and her translating abilities and understanding have improved. *Already own BB1 so I wouldn't have to buy anything new right now. Cons: *We have a baby due in the middle of April, and will probably need something a little less teacher-intensive than this option would be, since I would be "teaching" the whole Latin period. *Too redundant? (Can Latin BE too redundant when you're going for mastery?!? :confused:) 3. Finish the last half of LC1 that we had started in 2nd grade before beginning LL1. Then move into First Form next year for 4th per MP's recommendation. Pros: *Already own LC1 *Dd liked the structure of LC1 when we did it. *Even though I do not like the DVDs and we would not use them right now, it might be good to have that option for when the baby comes. Cons: *We would lose a lot of what we have worked on in LL since it is a different scope and sequence, different vocab, etc. *I really don't think I want to switch to Ecclesiastical pronunciation. I would probably try to use classical even with LC1 and the Forms since I wouldn't be using the DVDs with either program. For the last month, I had my mind set to do #3, but now I'm thinking the other two options would be the better choices... Long-term goals are for dd to read works proficiently in the original Latin, if that matters. I don't have a particular program right now that I'm trying to get to for Junior High/High School, although I've looked at all the obvious contenders. I really just want to make the best decision NOW, and then we'll move into whatever we need when we get there. So, I guess my questions are: 1. If you have used/are using BB2, what age did your dc start or what ages are your dc now? How are they faring? Are they advanced academically in other areas? 2. Is there a point in which dc can get way in over their heads with Latin? (Or?) Is it possible to just keep plowing slowly along, and things will continue to click? I'm asking especially wrt Lively Latin...I guess I'm wondering if there will continue to be enough review in grammar and vocab that as we add new stuff, she'll still have plenty of practice with old concepts. Does that make sense? She needs LOTS of review. I would really appreciate any insights/suggestions/thoughts you might have!
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How are things going? Heather
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I had ruled using LL 2 out because it wasn't finished, and I though it would be a while yet. I am glad to see it finished but now that leaves me wondering if we shouldn't give it a try especially given how much dd loved LL 1. If you are using LL 2 how much more intense is it (pace)? I love the relaxed pace of LL1. Is it really just a year of material? Is it still easy to understand? I have gotten lost in the dust so dd is on her own and will have to ask her own questions of the author if she gets stuck. Is there still the typo issues? Heather
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Ds8 (who will be nine in a few weeks) is finishing up BBofLL1. LL tends to be a love-it-or-hate-it curriculum, but we love it. All of it...derivatives, history, mapwork, etc.. I had planned to just launch into the second Big Book, until I noticed that a blogger with similar tastes in curriculum had gone to Latin Prep instead (with a 9 y.o.). I had been thinking of Latin Prep as something that might be an option later...now I'm wondering if there's enough overlap that I need to choose one or the other. So, this person very kindly talked me through her reasons, but it would be really, really terrific if anyone who has used the BBofLL2, or anyone who has an opinion, frankly, would weigh in on this. I was planning to order on Thursday...it's one of those "periodic paycheck" situations where I just want to get this done before the money gets sucked into household expenses.
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I LOVE Lively Latin (Book 1), but I hate flipping through the lesson pages trying to hunt down the one vocabulary word we forgot, etc. To remedy this, I created a help sheet with all of the major lesson points and vocabulary words listed in categories (nouns, verbs, etc.). It's been a HUGE help for us, so I thought I'd share it. You can download it from my blog: http://www.guesthollow.com/blog.html or my printables page: http://www.guesthollow.com/homeschool/printables/printables.html The first 3 pages are related to the lessons. The last 5 are vocabulary. All of the main lesson points for the entire year are covered. :001_smile:
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DD has completed PL and half of LC1. We are halfway through Lively Latin. We like it and hope to finish it, but for various reasons are looking to move to a different program after LL1. At the pace we're moving, we're likely to be done sometime around September or October. DD will be in 3rd grade. Has anyone moved directly to LFC Primer B after finishing LL1? Or has anyone switched midstream from LL1 into the LFC series? If so, did you start back over with LFC A? Or, if you switched after LL1 but didn't go to LFC, what did you use? Thanks!!
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My son is going to be in 4th grade next year and my plan was: 4th grade LC I, 5th grade First Form Latin, 6th grade Second Form Latin (should be ready by then according to their rep at the WTM conference), and then start with a local tutor in Henle in 7th grade. Lively Latin, though, is calling to me. :D If I start with LL next year, what would I use between finishing it and starting Henle in 7th grade? Would it even be a good lead in to Henle? I'm so confused about Latin!
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Hi everyone, sorry I have more questions. We are still on lesson 1 and I'm trying to get in the flow of things. I know nothing about Latin. I have put all of the history readings together to possibly do at a later date. What I am trying to do is 15 minutes of Latin daily, plus time spent listening to the audio chants. I think I'm still a bit intimidated. There's alot of info going on and my grammar is pretty rotten. I want this to work out. Is there a recommended flow that you would do to the program? I plan on setting the timer and just doing 15 minutes of seatwork. Sound okay? Something about it is confusing me and I can't put my finger on it? Do you sit with your child and review the previous material? This is for a just turned 10 yr old who doesn't like independent work. I'm not sure if I let him loose on the program what he'd wind up taking away from it. I'm just not sure how to teach it. Twice now I've had my son take his Voc. A sheet to the computer and listen/say the words and chants. I had thought the English word was also said, but he said that isn't repeated. So he is only saying the Latin without learning what it means. I know some of you said you didn't do the flashcards, so how else would you get them to learn both the Latin and English? Any other ideas? Does it just take a couple weeks to get your bearings in this? Thank you, Alison
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My 11 yr old was never taught diagramming in ps and we didn't do it this year either. I plan on teaching it next school year, and my question is whether Lively Latin has enough to forgo a seperate diagramming workbook. I am one of those strange creatures who LOVES diagramming so I could make up some worksheets or whatever on my own to supplement if LL does a good job of teaching it. What do you think? LL enough?
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Excuse my great ignorance. Is the Roman history in the LL series total myth, or were some of the people (like Romulus and Remus) actually real people with some crazy fictional stories surrounding them? I'm trying to figure out how to explain this to my son and I don't even know my self. Thanks Alison in KY
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OK, maybe I'm having a bad day... but is it just me who is frustrated by the continued inaccuracies in the downloaded versions of both the student text and the answer text? That's all I'll say right now; I just deleted the rest of my rant. deep breath.....
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How much translation does Lively Latin have?
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I've looked at the samples online and it's hard to see how much translation there is. I found one exercise translating 2 word sentences and I was wondering if it would be accurate to say that they had less than 10 sentences to translate in each lesson? TIA -
I am struggling with what to do next. We have done Lively Latin for a year. The kids have been exposed to three declensions and one case. (Though we have memorized all nouns in both the nominitive and genitive case). As for verbs, we memorize five different forms and they are expected to recognize all three regular tense endings for past perfect, present and future (in addition to the irregular sum). We are also supposed to know how to conjugate adjectives (and where to put them, eg, magnitude and size come before the noun, all others after) The thing of it is--nothing is sticking. I don't mind going on to LL2, (my son loved the history) but I really want something that will help solidify all we have supposedly learned. Did I "teach" it wrong? Did we not review enough? --or is this par for the course with a language course? Any insight much appreciated
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Hi, We'll eventually finish Song School Latin and I'm looking ahead to a next program. Lively Latin looks great, but I've seen some posts about difficulites with the site or with errors, ie mistakes and typos. Our total Latin back ground will be whatever we learn from Latin Song School. I'm not counting on being able to see a mistake. Oh, I"m interested in only a program with a Clssical pronounciation option. I would prefer a secular program, but I'm happily using SWR, so I can adjust if necessary. Any thoughts? ~Christine in AL
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How much history is in Lively Latin book 1? I am thinking about using this program with my young 4th grader next year. I would really like to streamline a few subjects and I was wondering how much additional history readings we would need to add if we use this program. I have SOTW Vol. 2 book that we could read. Jan