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  1. Does anyone have a suggestion for evaluating progress in LOF Calculus? My son is doing well on the problems (self-study), missing very few. But I need to evaluate his current progress compared with traditional Calculus study. Any advice is welcome.
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  4. Hi, everyone. My son just finished the Life of Fred Elementary Series (Apples through Jellybeans) and we did some extra math problems using bits and pieces of another curriculum to give him extra practice. He is already a middle-schooler (we started math a little late), and I am wondering if the "intermediate" books (Kidneys through Mineshaft) are a necessary transition to Fractions or if he can just move directly to Fractions. Jellybeans touches a bit on fractions so I feel he is ready. My concern is that the intermediate books might contain information/skills that he needs before Fractions. My son is a pretty fast learner but I don't want to skip things that are valuable. Thank you.
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    Life of Fred, Decimals and Percents, FractionsThe Kingfisher History Encyclopedia (minus book cover)Barron's E-Z AlgebraSaxon Algebra 1/2, 3rd Edition, includes solutions manualEarth Science for Christian Schools, 2nd editionLatin Vocabulary study cards (1000), SparknotesHake Grammar and Writing, Grade 5 (includes student workbook, teacher packet)Shurley English, Grade 7Shurley English, 4Drawing Basics with Thomas Kinkade (Life Pac Unit 1, includes DVD)Math-U-See Epsilon (books and DVD) (also have fraction overlays)Cuisenaire Rods, Introductory Set, NewNotgrass America the Beautiful, complete setPrima Latina (student book, teacher manual, dvd)Jacob's Elementary Algebra (book, teacher's guide, test masters)The Story of the World, Volume 1 (Book and CDs)Fisher's Mastering Essential Math Skills, Book 1 (Grades 4-5)AMSCO's Algebra ISpectrum Science, Grade 8Three Corner FlashcardsWorldy Wise 3000, Book 5Christian Light Education Light Units, Math Grade 6 (601-610)Christian Light Education Light Units, Language Arts, Grade 6 (601-610)Christian Light Education Light Units, Reading, Grade 6 (602-605)Christian Light Education Light Units, Bible, Grade 6 (601-602)


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  6. Wondering what the thoughts are on this one? We love Fred, and I really need a chem program for the son. Any thoughts of using this text to getting a good score on SAT II?
  7. Hi everyone, I'm finally trying to take the plunge into classical methods in earnest, but we've used Khan Academy as our math spine for years now, along with Math Mammoth (just couldn't slog through it for some reason even though it's really thorough and good) and intermittent use of old Houghton-Mifflin Mathematics school texts. DD12 is roughly 2/3 of the way through Khan Academy's Pre-algebra mission, but when I gave her a few tests recently, I saw to my dismay that she didn't apparently understand fractions, decimals, and percents deeply enough not to get caught or bewildered when given problems "off the hip" that didn't follow her familiar format. Though I expected the Fractions book to be too easy, she stumbled on the Bridge Activities, and now I am considering having her go through it, as well as the Life of Fred Decimals book, before letting her move on, either to Life of Fred Pre-algebra, or else something else. We'll keep the Khan (it has been useful for years, and helps me keep track of progress) but I am now looking at Life of Fred for my younger ones, too. My question is, has anyone else found LoF to be good for remediating conceptual lack? And what do you use for procedural mastery, alongside it? Everywhere I look for reviews on LoF, I see almost nothing but glowing testimonials, but what I want to know is, is it rigorous enough on its own? It doesn't include repetition or "practice" so what do those who need more than a bit of conceptual "aha" moment, do for that? Does anyone have success or failure stories to share, with their use of LoF? Has anyone else transitioned into it after using other things, and how did that go? What has it been like for those who started off with Fred? Thanks for any help.
  8. After 18 years of homeschooling, I have been getting more confident and braver in our curriculum choices. The Life of Fred Elementary Series is sitting on my homeschooling purgatory shelf, mainly because I am not 100% sure of it as a stand-alone math program. Not so brave after all...maybe. If you have evidence from your own seasoned experience that LOF is legit on its own, I would love to hear it! It seems to have so many holes... Thanks!
  9. Last year I bought Saxon Math K and Saxon Math 1 for $10 each. It was a good deal and Saxon was recommended in TWTM so, I bought them. I also got the manipulatives on Rainbow Resource. I neither love nor do I hate Saxon. I was irritated sometimes by the amount of parent prep. My son has done well with it. While he's never cried because of math, he protests the calendar routine and some other repetitive tasks the curriculum assigns. I want homeschool to be enjoyable, not to see the light in his eyes dim with boredom. We changed the calendar routine (colorful magnetic calendar) and we skip some of the routine sometimes or we will do a game or play with the abacus. As far as the rest of the lessons, I get the feeling that sometimes Saxon is moving a little slow, probably due to the spiral nature of it. Today, after filling out a drill adding doubles up to 9, my son asked me how much was 200 + 200 and I showed him how to do it... we went off on a tangent. But if you would have seen his delighted face, you wouldn't have stopped either! We started adding other simple numbers like 100 + 100, 1000 + 1000, 400 + 400... Then we had to go back to the worksheets (because I'm that mom that likes to check boxes), that are all very similar and of course, my son can finish with no trouble. He does not mind a page with 20 addition problems. He actually gets a kick of completing them fast. lol I do not do 2 or 3 lessons in one day because we have other subjects to complete and he is still too young to sit still for too long. In fact, sometimes we complete Saxon in two chunks with a break. Sight word drill is enjoyable for him. Probably because we get off the table and he wiggles while he reads them... I downloaded a sample of Life of Fred Apples and read it to my son and he liked it. A lot. I ordered the apples book to use at bedtime. I think it will be a nice supplement and we may get the whole set if the religious content isn't too overt. After all that, I would like some opinions. Should I stick with Saxon while doing Life of Fred for fun? Or should I switch him to something else? I want a rigorous math curriculum that does not repeat itself so much? Something that will make me feel like we are indeed covering all the bases. Drill is fine. I am sure we can slow down if we need to, but its hard for me to figure out how to get Saxon moving without missing things. We are secular, but we are not offended by a religious curriculum as long as the religious content isn't a central part of the content.
  10. Frequently, there is a mention that Life of Fred is not robust enough to use alone. I wanted to share that our experience has for the most part been otherwise. My oldest DD is currently enrolled in College Algebra as an 11th grader. She went completely through Singapore Primary Math and did LoF Fractions in the summer after 5B and Decimals and Percents after 6B. Following that she continued on with LoF Pre-Algebra, Beginning Algebra, Geometry, and Advanced Algebra. I supplemented Beginning Algebra with Real World Algebra and through the entire sequence she worked through Challenging Word Problems 5 and 6. Beginning Algebra was tough for her and I had her repeat chapters as needed and work every problem in Zillions of Practice Problems for Beginning Algebra and the Home Companion. Once she mastered Beginning Algebra, she relatively breezed through proof-heavy LoF Geometry and Advanced Algebra using Zillions of Practice Problems for Advance Algebra only when more repetition was needed. Now in College Algebra, she is finding math to be easier because LoF lead her through figuring out how to solve a problem while her College Algebra spoon feeds her how to do it. She is definitely finding that LoF sufficiently prepared her for this next phase. Sarah
  11. I just got an email from Educents about an hour ago about their Life of Fred sale. And, I have to say I am pretty impressed. Up to 15% off + free shipping over $75. 15% off is a lot, considering LOF is NEVER on sale. http://www.educents.com/life-of-fred-sale K
  12. Could I get opinions? Would LoF be necessary as a supplement if using Tabletclass? This would be in Pre-Alg and on through high school. My son gets frustrated in the lack of explanation in the LOF. I'm also concerned with the best use of his time and two math curriculums, at the higher levels, may be a misuse of his time. Any thoughts? Thanks, Rachel
  13. Has anyone used Life of Fred Math? I just purchased Math Mammoth for my boys but I've heard great things about Life of Fred too. Anyone used both? Can they be used together? Any other recommendations? Thanks!!
  14. My 15-year-old was really enjoying the Life of Fred sequence through Advanced Algebra, but he was struggling mightily with the Fred Geometry book at the end of his 9th grade year, so this year we switched to Teaching Textbooks for Geometry. It has its problems, but overall it's fine. However, now I'm in a bit of a quandary regarding what to do for next year. Any suggestions regarding LOF Trigonometry versus Teaching Textbooks Pre-calculus versus another pre-calculus program? This son would do better with something that teaches directly rather than the LOF/AoPS approach, and it really needs to be something he can do on his own with occasional help from his math-professor grandma or mathy older brother who will be off at college. Also, having the same program for him for pre-calculus and calculus would be handy, though it is by no means necessary.
  15. I'm getting ready to buy it this weekend, but I'm not sure what the difference is between the Expanded Edition and the regular version. Also, do you need the Zillions of Practice Problems right away? Or can we work on the main book for a couple of weeks before I buy that, too? Thanks!!
  16. I need some serious help deciding on a math curriculum. Here's my story: When I started homeschooling my oldest I used Saxon for math. Loved it. We used it for her up through 4th grade. By that time I also had a 2nd and 1st grader and math time was seriously eating up my day (I also had a 3 and 1 year old). The next year, for DD1's 5th grade and DS1's 3rd grade year I switched them to Khan Academy with some speed drills and worksheets thrown in for good measure. I still did Saxon with DD2 who was then in 2nd grade. It seemed to go well but by the end of the year I was frustrated with what looked like low retention and my older two were continually asking me to go back to teaching them. This year (DD1 - 6th grade, DS1 - 4th grade, DD2 - 3rd grade) I went searching for a self-led math program. I found Math Mammoth and it seemed like a dream come true. I ordered the entire light blue series and started all three kids on them in September. It took me 3 weeks to realize that MM would not work for us. The older two asked me for instruction constantly and the 3rd grade book was all "new math" i.e. here are seven different ways to figure out 23 plus 45. So. I figured I'd have to go back to Saxon, which worked well, but it was October and I was out of curriculum money. Enter MEP. It was free, it was highly praised. We dove in. We love it. Problem is, I'm back to teaching three grades of math every day, plus everything else and wrangling a 5 and 3 year old, and I'm going insane. Originally I decided it was worth it to do all the instruction so that they would get the best education, but after 13 weeks of running myself ragged I'm not sure I can continue. Here's what I'm thinking. I could continue with MEP and have one of them each day do 45 minutes of Khan Academy, so that I'm only teaching 2 hours of math instead of three. That would mean taking longer to get through MEP, putting them 'behind'. Not real excited about that, but maybe it would be okay. (We already skip the 'review' lesson because we school 4 days per week.) Or I switch it up completely again. I'm looking at Life of Fred for my sixth grader, who is not a math fan. My concern with that is twofold - will it prepare her for college math if she goes all the way through? (Considering she will probably never be a scientist or engineer.) Second, is it really self-led? Can I hand her the books and let her go? My third grader also struggles with math. We've been doing LoF Apples for fun every few days instead of MEP and she enjoys it. My concern is still whether it works as a stand alone program. My 4th grader loves math and is good at it. Not sure if LoF is good for mathy kids. If you've read this far, I commend you. Thanks for your time and in advance for any advice!!
  17. I know that the author says to start kids with Apples and work your way up, but I don't want to do that with my oldest. :tongue_smilie: Is there an easy way to figure out where to place kids in the program? She LOVES anything in story format (she's my dreamer) and I know that she would really enjoy Fred, but I don't want to start her back at Apples which her sister is using. My oldest is in 4th grade if that helps.
  18. So. I have heard from several people now that "Life of Fred is a great program, but there is simply NOT enough repetition and drills for kids to really nail down the concepts he covers." I want to remedy that. Been through Apples to Mineshaft, restarting Fractions in December. I've kinda-sorta mucked around in Khan Academy, but I'm not sure it's all that helpful. Any other ideas people have had success with?
  19. My son can't figure out how/why a step in the problem at the bottom of page 111 in Life of Fred trigonometry was arrived at. I'm no help, either. Can anyone help? To show that 1 + cot2 x = csc2 x Changing to sines and cosines (ok here) 1 + cos2x/sin2x = 1/sin2x Adding the fractions (this is what he doesn't get) (sin2x + cos2x)/sin2x Since sin2x + cos2x = 1 (ok here too) 1/sin2x He doesn't understand how the term in the second step is derived. Anyone? Thanks! Amy
  20. Does anyone know exactly what math topics are covered in Life of Fred's Intermediate series - the Kidneys, Liver and Mineshaft books? I've seen his "scope and sequence" and I really can't make sense of it. Thanks!!!
  21. We use MM for math, but for summer practice, I bought the first 4 LoF books. Dd has worked through all 4 and ds is working through Apples. They are fun stories, but I just do not see how you would use it as a full curriculum. I know they say you have to supplement learning addition, subtraction and multiplication. However, if I was going to use it as a full curriculum, I would have to add in much more that basic math facts, to the point that I would nearly be writing my own full curriculum. What am I missing? :confused1:
  22. My 9yr old daughter will be in fourth grade next year and we have happily been using CLE for two years now and plan to continue using it. However, I recognize that it definitely lacks in the mental math department and would love to add some of this in for her. We've played around with Beast Academy, but honestly it's not her style at all. She likes things straight forward. The few times I attempted to do an MEP lesson with her it just turns into a fight. She doesn't like being "taught" by me. So, friends, what kind of mental math would you add? She loves to read, so I've looked at Life of Fred. Does LoF include mental math? Would this work for what I'm looking for? What other student-driven supplements would you suggest? Thanks in advance for any help!!
  23. If I have already asked this before...forgive me..I surely cannot find the post if I have. Curious how you grade/determine mastering Life of Fred. DS is doing Algebra. The website says this: ***In the books starting with Life of Fred: Beginning Algebra, there are six Cities at the end of each chapter. If the student can do any one of the six Cities with no errors, then award an A for that chapter. If the student's best score on the six Cities is one error, then a B. Two errors = C Three errors = F Do you go by this, do you grade differently? If so, how do you grade? Thanks Debbie
  24. I have read a lot of good things about Life of Fred and am considering it as a supplement (or core) for my very right-brained 3rd grade son. However, before I plunge in, I was wondering if anyone has experienced "cons" or challenges with using this curriculum or if anyone absolutely does not like it, and if so, why? I'm not even sure that I am asking the right questions:-) But if you understand what I'm after, please (kindly) tell me why to or not to use LoF:-)
  25. My situation: DD is 10 and finishing 4th grade with K12. I like and dislike K12 math, so I've added Singapore Math and Horizons Math to her daily math. Horizons works well for review, but Singapore is not a good fit, and I'm looking to replace this with Life of Fred. My questions: How long are the books? If we went back to the last three elementary books (Kidneys, Liver, and Mineshaft) then onto the next books (Fractions, Decimals, and Elementary Physics), is this over-the-top to consider doing in a year? DD does well with math, but it isn't favorite subject. She gets the concepts quickly, yet needs to practice the concepts to cement the ideas. Does LoF offer plenty of practice? If not, What do you use for practice.
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