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There was a recent thread on scheduling and encouraging excellence on the accelerated board where Nan in Mass wrote the following: "I should add that one of the focuses of middle school was academic and organizational skills. There comes a point (and if your children are accelerated, it will come sooner) when the child needs better writing skills, needs to know how to study, how to take notes, how to keep a calendar, how to organize his materials, how to do research, that sort of things.(continues)" As always, Nan got me thinking and wondering what you all do to systematically teach s
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Or is that so generalized that it is impossible to answer? Maybe the full spectrum was available 10 or 15 years ago, and the full spectrum is available now? There are so many homeschool curriculums choices now. I was wondering if, in general, they are more or less rigorous than the original ones? (Not thinking original original here. Just thinking about the choices when I started homeschooling 12 years ago.) I can see how it might go either way. There was a strong rebel-against-the-establishment feeling among some of the older homeschoolers. That might lead to less academicly rig
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Hi all, There have been a number of threads pertaining to math these days as parents plan for next year or regroup for this. One thing, though, that I have noticed is that while many of us promote discussion as a necessary part of our Great Books education, I do not see parents mention discussing mathematics. I know that many parents feel some insecurity regarding mathematics. But honestly many feel the same insecurity regarding the Great Books as well, yet they read these books with their kids and enjoy the resulting conversations. In recent months, my husband and I each read a book
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You might be interested in Paul Tough's new book, How Children Succeed: Grit, Curiousity and the Hidden Power of Character. NPR had an interview with the author this week. You can read more or listen to the story by going here. Among the good qualities that I believe homeschooling high school can help develop are grit and curiosity. So maybe Mr. Tough is preaching to the choir??
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Has anyone ever run across a program that teaches Calculus with a slide-rule instead of a modern calculator? I know all of the benefits of a calculator, but DH and I (who never took calculus) would like DS to learn the subject 'manually' as well as with a calculator (as it is required on the SAT subject test). Everything I've ever read from older engineers is that it is an invaluable skill, but I can't find any programs that still teach it. Will I just have to find a tutor? asta
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Here's the thread it came from and below that is the post you made. http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3351201&highlight=rabbit#post3351201 That post was in Nov. of this past year, and I've been wondering how the rest of the year went for you. When we met at the convention you seemed very happy about your year. Did you make a shift toward more rabbit trails or interest-driven? Did you find another way to get peace? Anything you plan to do differently for this coming year based on what you learned this year?
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My dd is getting close to high school, in 8th this year. She is definitely an out of the box thinker, creative child, kinesthetic, visual spatial, loves art, hates most everything else about school. A lot of high school involves the use of textbooks (which we have not used in the past). Is it possible to get through at least most of high school without using textbooks? Learning from textbooks is just not appealing to her at all. She does not mind reading chapter books or other topical nonfiction books, just has a problem with the overwhelming dense quality of material in textbooks. I think the
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I am very much enjoying the experiential and philosophical discussion on the current state of education in the other thread. I would love to start this new thread to discuss practical application. Please share strategies and/or examples of how you support and require excellence in your homeschool.
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I've been reading Myrtle's blog for most of the afternoon, so that may give you an idea of where my thoughts are coming from. :001_smile: I have both the 1965 (1962) and 1970 (1967) Dolciani Algebra 1 texts. The 1970 text is the one written by Dolciani and Wooton, Beckenbach, Jurgensen, Donnelly. The authors of the earlier edition are Dolciani, Berman, and Freilich. I also own an 80's edition of the algebra text. (I have been searching for teacher's editions for these books, but have not been successful yet, so I'm hanging onto these copies and not selling them at this time. ;)) Af
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I have some questions regarding the upper level math calculators. My dd finished Alg.1 and Geometry and used my old scientific calculator (it's a Casio fx-350). This seemed to be fine. In Alg 2 it states that she should have a graphing calculator and recommends either a TI-82 or TI-83. My question is whether one of those 2 calculators is absolutely needed, or would the scientific calculator that we have work for Alg 2. If she is going to require one of the above for PreCalc/Trig and Calc, then I might as well get one. Just curious as to what is really required. Thanks to a
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I did an outloud cheer when I read this from the thread about which sort of hs'ing families are near you: "Only one other more rigorous hsing family here, and she put her older children into middle school and high school here. The others are either "relationships over academics" Christians or hippie-esque unschoolers, with a few boxed ABeka fans. We're too busy with college classes and orchestra to do much in the way of hsing groups any more. It's rather sad, actually. I miss those lovely days of trips to the lake..." I didn't know my style of hs'ing had a title and I'm thrilled to know
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There is a great article about STEM education in college in the Education Life section of the NYT today. All you veteran STEM educators and students will like this. I know my oldest dd left math for some of the reasons (she likes a social component to her academics). STEM college educators need to get more inspirational. Science should never be too hard or too boring if kids of these days are to be retained as students. I wish I had more time as a homeschool Mom to tackle these issues. I despair that dd #2 may abandon her STEM dreams. On the other hand, both my dh and I have had STEM
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I'm hoping you might have time to discuss something you mentioned in another thread: [Copied and pasted from your post.] I have a preference for texts written by mathematicians not math educators. I'm curious to know more about how textbooks written by mathematicians differ from those written by math educators. And, is it realistic for a parent who's not a mathematician to aspire to use materials written by mathematician? These questions are inspired partly by your post and partly by some remarks I read in reviews of math texts at Amazon. oops...I should have said that I'm inte
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Admittedly I am in an Algebra/Geometry/Algebra II-Trig/Precalc/Calculus box. I understand those who might want to include Statistics. I understand those whose children start Algebra early including a Number Theory class. For those who are advanced in Math, I see potential rabbit holes in Graph Theory or Combinatorics in high school. But lately there has been discussion of business math, consumer math and accounting for high school math credits. Could we talk about the content of the first two? What makes them solid math classes for high school? Accounting, to me, is not math. Yes, i
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As my son prepares to go off to college in the fall, I find myself reflecting over numerous things in his life. He played one pricey sport for a few years--hockey. Unlike most kids who grow up playing it, he picked it up at age 12. He played recreationally, not competitively. The latter would have been much more expensive because of travel. He loved it but then he was ready to leave it behind to focus on his dual enrollment courses. It was interesting though that so many parents could not grasp my son's satisfaction with recreational play. They wanted their kids on travel teams. Maybe t
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Now that ds is in his second ch of the trig section (in the Alg II/Trig Dolciani '65 book), we've hit a major slowdown.... It can take an hour to do 2 problems...Ds says they just take him a long time... Here I was thinking he would be finished with the book by the middle of April. Any insights? Thanks! Joan
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My "ideal" educated child would look like the educated Thomas Jeffersons and George Washingtons. People who started this country knew how to think and reason in their early 20's. They seemed to be able to handle large responsiblities at early ages. The stuff people read back then for general reading was so deep, we have trouble reading it today. I heard about a town in the late 1700's where they used to "draw straws" to pick the next leaders. Everyone was considered to be well educated and able to think well enough to lead well. So, the question is - how do we educate our children w
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I'm really struggling with high school at the moment ladies, so bear with me. I was searching through some old posts and came across this option for high school history - Spievogel's Human Odyssey Used, it's pretty cheap. I found a 1999 edition 2 years ago for $12 (which included shipping) and it was in new condition. It is a history textbook, covering ancient history through modern times, with lots of photos/illustrations, excerpts from writings from the time period, and sidebars of interesting side topics. There are 4-6 questions at the end of each 4-8 page section within a chapter,
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Okay, so I have been reading the posts on the accelerated foruam board about long term plans... What does one look like? I think I have one for the twins (starting at 9th grade)... I have a list of what many colleges look for and what courses the kids must complete. For example: 3 yrs/cr of math (algebra 2, geometry, precalc or statistics). Algebra 1 was done in 8th grade accelerated class. 4 yrs/cr of English (English 10, English 11, CC dual credit for Rhetoric 1, 2, & Speech). They did English 9 in 8th grade accelerated class. 3 yrs/cr of Science (CC dual credit based up
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Can someone explain proofs to me?
Laura Corin posted a topic in High School and Self-Education Board
Although I did algebra, I don't think I ever did proofs. Calvin is coming across them in LOF and we are both a bit puzzled. Do they have a practical purpose or are they a 'the beauty of maths' kind of endeavour? Thanks Laura -
Hello all. Use of and restrictions on the use of calculators are perennial themes here. Jean has a thread going on the College Board regarding restrictions on calculator use in her son's College Math course. Regularly parents ask about which calculators are allowed on standardized tests. Etc. I wanted to weigh in with some new thoughts that I have had regarding the use of graphing calculators of the TI-83 or 84 vintage. I have not fiddled with the new TI-nspire (a name which annoys me) nor do I have personal experience with the more sophisticated calculators that have symbolic manip
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I've read several times here that people prefer the older editions of Dolciani's Algebra: Structure and Method Book 1, but I've never read a reason why people find them better than the updated editions. Does anyone know?
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I understand there are older versions and newer versions. It seems that it is more difficult to find the older versions, from what I have read. DS9 will be in 4th next year, working a grade level ahead in Math. We are currently using Horizons Math. He is expressing strong interests in engineering and design. He is obsessed with the mechanics of things, knowing how things work and why. he is a lego-aholic, and will build with anything he can get his hands on. He can also take things and find out of the ordinary uses for them. He thinks outside of the box. I am beginning my research for u
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