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  1. If you follow some sort of a nontraditional schedule for high school, whether because you have a student taking DE classes, or who is very involved in an extracurricular, or who is accelerated, or if you school year round, or if you do 4-day weeks, or block scheduling, or unschool, or follow any other scheduling/credit assigning method that is outside of the 36 week/5 day a week school year schedule, I'd like to hear from you. What is your unique schedule? Why did you choose it? How is it working for you? How do you assign credits, assuming you may not be starting a class in the fall and finishing in the spring? Do you count hours and assign the credit when they are done? Or decide how much material constitutes a credit, and assign the credit when that material is completed? Likewise with deciding grade levels: If your student is finishing the material for one "grade" at a different time than May/June, do you consider them in the next grade "early" (or "late")? Or does that really not matter for anything, other than PSAT/NMSF status? I may come up with additional questions, but I could use some inspiration/experience in thinking outside the box for high school scheduling for my rising 9th grader.
  2. My sister is a vice prinicpal in a highschool here in Florida. She's FULL of info on homeschooling :tongue_smilie:. One thing is she says that now advanced kids take "high school credit" physical science in 7th grade and Earth Space science in 8th grade. I said I see no point to this, as he is going to take the full series (Bio, Chem, Physics, and something else) in high school. Plus, colleges from what I understand don't give a hoot about "earth space science", etc. But she insisted that is how it is done, and wants to know if the science classes my son is doing for 7th and 8th are "high school credit". Um...He's doing Physics III from NOeo, which is for 7th-9th graders, and next year will do Chemistry III, which is also for 7th -9th. I suppose you could say it is high school level if you wanted, but who the heck cares? Our views are so different (me wanting to cover what is interesting, rigorous, and needed for college...her focusing on what normal kids take in highschool), and i don't know what to believe.
  3. My dd14 has taken Algebra 1, Biology, Astronomy and Spanish 1 this past year. They're all highschool classes and at public school the kids get credit for those classes on their transcripts. I'm wondering if you can do that? I was thinking maybe a seperate box on her transcript saying "taken before 9th grade" and list the class. What did you do?
  4. Does a section for credits earn before high school meet standards? Credits are accredited from a state college. We're a military family so we have no idea where we'll be when she graduates. (we choose an accredited solution for pre-highschool classes to minimize questions on level of course work) And should these classes count in GPA calculations?
  5. Our oldest homeschooler will be starting high schol next year, and I am a bit perplexed about how to count credits. We've been doing four-year history rotations, and just finished Ancients again, during his 8th grade year. I plan to do the MA and R&R time period next year, followed by two years bringing us to the present, and the required govmt and economics courses. However, I am thinking he's supposed to have two years of world history and two of American, and I'm not sure how that will work out with what we've already done. In addition, he's taken high school level classes this year and I'm not sure how those might count - or not. He's declared an 8th grader, but this year is completing Algebra 2 and Apologia Biology (Physical Science and Algebra 1 completed in 7th grade). He completed a 9th grade LL course and had a reading load for history and lit worthy of HS. So my questions are, can any of these courses count? Is he required to complete two full years of world history in high school, and two years of American? I'd love to hear how people worked these things out as I try to make a comprehensive plan for the next four years (I'd thought I had one!). Thank you for any insight!
  6. DS did the first part of us history this year in 8th grade and he also completed algebra 1. I know those are typically high school courses so should I include them on his high school transcript? If so, where on the transcript would I put them?
  7. We met with our charter school teacher yesterday for our monthly meeting and discussed plans for next year and working over the summer (we do year round) and told her we will finish TT7 about Aug and we may skip pre-alg and go straight into Alg 1 since it seems a number of families are doing so with ease with TT (there is a lot of overlap between 7 and pre-alg and I have a "mathy" kid but I need the ease of the program for ME who is NOT mathy) but I will give her a placement test first before we make the jump. What I was told was shocking, we need to start thinking about high school credit (she's only in 5th!) and have to pick from a list of pre approved Alg courses or the state will not allow them to issue credit for the class and she will have to take Alg again in high school even if she's working at a much much high math level by then. It never occured to me that this could be an issue, I know we will be using a virtual high school for sure but thats still a couple years away so I haven't even considered that we may have to start thinking NOW for next year and what CA considers a high school class thats required for graduation. The teacher has always tested dd's knowledge and understanding separate from her materials and I assumed she would just continue this way but it appears the state is very specific and we must use an approved Alg course. Yes I can keep using TT if I pay out of pocket but the school will require we use school funds to purchase only approved math programs once she hits Alg. I can't afford this stuff out of pocket so I'm at a loss:( Suggestions? (other then pull out and file a PSA next year?)
  8. I've read through a few threads on this subject and I might be more confused than ever:). It seems like everyone can and has assigned credits a bit differently. So, just to make sure I'm clear on this, if I want to, then I can give credits for high school level work that isn't completed in high school. IF my kids do a high school worthy class in 6th grade, then I could actually count that as a credit...correct? Also, I can either buy a standard text that I know is used in high school and call it a credit, or if I (teacher, principal, guidance counselor) think it's enough for a credit, then I may call it so:confused:? I'm not saying I should or would do that, but I guess it would depend on the situation. In my case, I am thinking of my 12 yr old taking First Form Latin next year. If I count that as a credit, then do another year of a foreign language, we could actually be finished with our foreign languages in 8th grade. I'm thinking I might have a child who isn't that interested in academics, but may be interested in learning a trade. If we were to get some credits knocked out in middle school, that would leave time in high school to explore some different interns/job possibilities. Is there anything wrong with this idea? Well, other than the debate on whether First Form is worthy of a whole credit or not. Alison :bigear:
  9. I was reading through our county's high school diploma requirements and came across: "Students who complete Algebra I;Geometry; Algebra II; and/or the regular first or second year of a foreign language in middle school will earn high school credits in those subjects.The credits will count toward graduation requirements and in the grade point average and class rank." Is this unusual? Do you think it would be okay for me to do this even though we are homeschooling? I was kind of surprised to see this because I have heard many people say not to give high school credit for classes taken in middle school. I'd love to give my son a jump on his foreign language requirement in middle school. I was also concerned about starting Algebra in 8th and then having to complete 3 more math classes because I'm not sure how far my son will go in this area, but if I can count Algebra I taken in 8th as one of his high school credits, then that would be great. Thanks! Lisa
  10. I have seen how many will count Algebra I taken in 8th grade as a high school credit since it's required for graduation. I know private schools teach algebra I in 8th too. How does that work?
  11. Hi, I'm new posting, but a long-time lurker. So, this is my first post here on WTM boards. (I frequent SL boards though, so some might know me from there) Thanks for any responses and help/advice. Anyway.... I've been thinking about H.S. and planning. Then came across, the My Father's World program for H.S. (looks like for us, a perfect fit). Now, my son is a 7th grader, but I was looking at this program and think he could do this H.S. program for 8th grade, this Fall really. It's not a "leap" for him, a challenge maybe, but not a huge "leap." And I got to thinking..."Why should he wait?" Why should we just "bite" our time till High School. Why couldn't he just go ahead and start this high school courses now? People do HS math and Science in 8th grade don't they? Can't they do History, Language Arts? Is this crazy? So, in thinking this through, if he could do this, this would be my plan: 8th grade: Ancient History, Lit/writing, Bible - MFW-3 credits Algebra I-MUS-1 credit F Language: Japanese-Rosetta Stone and Kumon (writing)-1 credit Latin I course-Artesian Wells Classical Tutorials "online" class-1 credit Physical Science Apologia-Potter's School-1 credit Latin I course-Artesian Wells Classical Tutorials "online" class-1 credit Electives: AWANA TREK, Karate, tennis, guitar 9th grade- MFW-World History, Lit/Bible-3 credits MUS-Geometry-1-credit Science-Biology I -Potter's School online-1 credit Language-Japanese II (Rosetta) Kumon (writing) cont'd-1 credit (1 year) Latin II-Artesian Wells Classical Tutorials "online" class-1 credit (1-year) Electives: AWANA TREK, Karate, tennis, guitar, Health 10th grade: MFW-US History to 1877, LIt/Bible-3 credits MUS-Physics or Potter's School online Physics 1-credit Science-Chemistry Apologia -Potter's School online 1-credit Language-Japanese III (Rosetta) Kumon (writing) cont'd 1-credit Latin III-Artesian Wells Classical Tutorials "online" class-1 credit Electives: AWANA TREK, Karate, tennis, guitar, Health 11th grade: (take a break from regular courses and do prep for ACT/SAT) SAT FOCUS: Focus on prep for SAT/writing through online courses/visit colleges in US. 1-credit Math: Pre-Calculus MUS 1-credit Language: Japanese IV 1-credit Electives: AWANA TREK, Karate, Tennis, Film class/Web design, overseas short-term missions project (he's interested in these things) 12th: MFW-U.S. History 1877 to Present/Lit./Bible 3-credits MUS-Physics or Potter's School online Physics 1-credit Science-Chemistry Apologia -Potter's School online 1-credit Language-Japanese III (Rosetta) Kumon (writing) cont'd 1-credit Maybe a AP course or CLEP? 1-credit Electives: AWANA TREK, Karate, tennis, guitar, Film-making, Web-design Total credits: as is a lot, but seems reasonable...Do colleges look on too many credits with "suspicion?" Couldn't I just count his 8th grade (High School classes) for his 9th grade transcripts/year (keeping grades/records, etc?) Would there be harm in this? I'd love for him to have his Jr. year of H.S. focus on SAT prep, since it's so important for him to do well on those tests for college admission. Anyone ever done this? Is is "cheating" to start High School courses in 8th grade? I would call his "8th grade" "9th grade" on his transcripts (but just do them a year early) I honestly think he could do the courses I mentioned above. Looking for advice here, if I'm totally "whacked out..." __________________
  12. So I'm thinking about how I'm going to handle the next couple of years into high school. Maybe the prospect of being in the same place for more than two years has me twitchy (we're military and move a lot). Maybe it's just that I've realized how expensive putting three kids through college is going to be and want to give them all the basis for choice that I can. I have two sons who have tracked together academically from the very beginning. One is in 7th grade, while his brother is in 6th. This year in math they are doing pre-algebra (Key to series and Saxon Algebra 1/2). I would say that the 7th grader ® is a good student with a lot of creativity and smarts (with IQ and achievement test scores in early elementary that put him into gifted range) who tends toward distraction and inertia. The 6th grader © is very smart. Fast, high level reader with a phenomenal memory. IQ and achievement scores that put him into profoundly gifted ranges. He has been doing the same math as his brother since they were in kindergarten and pre-k (actually 3.5 years old). He asked to learn to read at 4 and finished 100 EZ Lessons in six months. In many ways his academic ability is beyond his brother, but his emotional maturity is closer to age appropriate. So, I'm wondering what to do with the two of them as we approach academics that might go onto a high school transcript. I anticipate that R will start algebra next year, with C right along with him. If things go smoothly (here's our first assumption) then we might have a progression like 8-algebra 1, 9-algebra 2, 10-Advanced Mathematics, 11-Calculus. However, C would be in the same courses one grade earlier. Questions: 1) This progression would have them doing three years of math in the high school years or would count 8th grade algebra on the transcript. What are the pros and cons of this. 2) As the math gets harder, it might take more than one year to complete a course (ex. adv. math or calc). What would the impact of this be. 3) I don't want to hold back the student who is honestly more comfortable with the math (C, the younger brother). But I'm worried about either counting his 7th grade work for high school levels or locking him into a situation where he has to take even high levels of math to have enough credits in high school (or to avoid his having a gap in senior year). Thoughts from thos who've been there and done this? 4) Or should I just not fret this early and plan to do dual enrollment if we get to that point (though we may only have online options as we've been spending a lot of years overseas, where the DOD schools and the local college campus extensions don't work particularly well with dual/partial enrollment students). Please hit me with the good, bad and ugly that I'm not considering.
  13. This was the first time I'd seen it in a policy - maybe there are other schools where it is so clear as well? I thought this might help people as I've seen a variety of opinions about this and people go around and around. It says a "UC approved course" - not sure what that entails and may be worth investigating... Will UC-approved courses in language other than English and mathematics completed in seventh and eighth grades count toward the 11 courses required for a review of a student's application? Yes. UC's admission application requests that students provide information (course title and number of semesters completed) on approved language other than English and mathematics courses completed in seventh and eighth grades. Provided that a student earned grades of C or higher in these courses, they can be applied to the 11-course minimum requirement. From this page. HTH, Joan
  14. I've seen a lot of variation in the number of courses that people offer each year. On average, how many credits do your children earn per year?
  15. My next question is whether or not it is possible to have my son earn a high school credit in 7th grade. He is doing spanish and I'd really like to give him the HS credit. How do I go about it, or can I even do that?
  16. We are considering having dd start a high school level foreign language course this year. She thinks she should do Spanish. I know a lot of people use Rosetta Stone, but we really can't afford it right now. What affordable options are there that will count as high school credit? I do have a neighbor who is pretty fluent in Spanish that I think would be willing to help us when needed. Dh thought some Spanish and Latin would be good for her high school. We've never done any Latin at all in our homeschool as I've been a little afraid of it. Should I bother with Latin being for a high school credit and just do something light and fun, possibly including her little brother? We could wait until next year when he's 3rd if that would be a more appropriate age for Latin. Right now my plan for high school is to use MFW, BJU science online, BJU math taught by me, 2 foreign language credits in Spanish, Traditional Logic 1 & 2, Rhetoric, and electives. Any suggestions?
  17. How's that for a long title!? :lol: I am seeing that some are doing courses early, like Chemistry or Algebra II before high school. One of my dds is on track to do Apologia Biology in 7th which she wants to follow with Apologia Marine Biology. Will we have trouble meeting the requirements of 3 science credits for graduation? I get that she can just take more advanced classes in high school, but how does this work for those that take classes early? Could someone lay it out, for me?
  18. Do you ever give credit for classes started in 8th but that you don't finish until sometime in the 9th grade year? For instance, We did Fallacy Detective and The Thinking Toolbox in 6th and 7th grade respectively. I am going to start The art of Argument this year and work through it as time allows. I want to emphasize study skills this year, so we may only get a little done in the logic course each week. I would expect to complete 1/3-1/2 of the book. If we complete the book in 9th, would you give a .5 credit for informal logic?
  19. I hear ya on the other threads... And, I admit, my son is either gonna love me or hate me when he gets back from summer camp and sees the difference between his mom-planned history and lit from last year (Like WHOA - what was I thinking?) and the MFW-planned history and lit for next year (yeah - if he works as hard on this as he did last year, he'll be done by Christmas...) OK - so we've got some adjustments to make in our thinking. And, maybe my IRL All-ABeka-mom friend (whose son is always done by 10am) will soon be adding some extra smirk to her "I told ya so" look. :lol: BUT ------- that doesn't negate the fact that students in our district are earning 8 credits a year, and that those are the students that my DS will competing with to get into college. (if he stays in-state, which I admit I don't know *where* he's going) I just feel so much pressure to earn 8 real credits a year! Am I the only one?????
  20. I know, as homeschoolers, we determine what we teach our kids. But as I approach 8th grade, I'm wondering if some of our courses (language arts, history) would "count" as high school credit? For example, for 8th grade language arts, I'll be using MCT's series to teach grammer/writing/vocab and I'll also be teaching American literature (to coincide with our study of American History). How does what I'm doing differ from a regular/honors/gifted 8th grade class in public school? How can I "prove" that my homeschool language arts approach is on par with what my DS would learn in public school at the high school level (for 9th grade)? Is it a matter of depth in what I teach, the assignments I give my DS, the curriculum we use, the books he reads, etc.? Any advice? Lisa
  21. A friend of mine thinks that I can give high school credit to my dd for doing SL Core 100, even though she will be 8th grade. She said that I should be able to do so because the company says it can used in high school. Does anyone else do this?
  22. Recently, our oldest son had some testing done and it was recommended that he start accruing high school credits and take a couple high school level classes this next year. He will be in 6th grade for the upcoming school year. It was recommended that he take a high school science class at our co-op that uses Apologia Physical Science as the text. Last year, he completed Easy Grammar Plus and will most likely be using Easy Grammar Ultimate this year. (I am under the impression that those are high school level texts.) My confusion is coming when I start to think about keeping track of credits. I have several friends telling me different things. One says that you can start accruing credits now (in 6th grade). Another says that once you start accruing high school credits, you MUST finish in four years. You cannot take more than four years to do high school. I have scoured the internet to try to find out what is state law (IL), but am coming up empty-handed. I am hoping someone on the board can help this newbie trying to find her way! :) ETA: Forgot to add that he will also be taking a high school level computer programming class at our co-op as well.
  23. some classes, including science, but it had to be a high school level course to qualify, would you skip Apologia physical science and move to Apologia Biology? DD wants to do this; we're just finishing General Science. She's capable of performing the work. I'm primarily curious if it matters whether or not we rearrange the order; Biology this fall and physical science next fall. The caveat is she will be tested for science in 8th grade and the topics appear to be more in line with the physical science text. Her father and I are divorced and test scores are important to him. She's always done very well, but...we obviously want her to feel well prepared. I suppose there are other ways we could prepare... Just sorting this out a bit and would love some input. I'm just not sure if it would be a more logical progression to move from general to physical to biology or if the order really matters.
  24. start high school level courses at a young age? My child will be 12 years old and has already tackled some high school courses for *fun*. But what if we actually DID some high school classes seriously? She would be public school Gr "6" in Sept. Would she have to do ALL high school classes in order to gain credit? Do you have to be a certain age?
  25. I was getting my hair cut yesterday and I overheard a lady telling her beautician that her son, who was in 6th grade, was taking spanish and the school was using it for a credit for highschool!! :001_huh: The beautician questioned her and she said it was true, because she thought it was odd as well and asked about it. The school told her that the students would earn a credit for the course!!
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