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  1. Hi All, I'm a first-time homeschooling mom. I have a rising 4th grader who struggles a lot in the writing department. I saw the author's YT video talking about WWE and love the idea behind this program and how it was designed to help kids who can read but can't necessarily put down their thoughts on paper as easily or answer comprehension questions. My issue is, he should technically be in book 4 but because he struggles so much should I just put him in level 1? Since it's designed for younger students, and has shorter work, maybe he can do a couple of lessons in a day and try to breeze through it to reach his level faster. Or, will he be fine starting in a level 3? Would he miss any foundations that are covered in book 1 and 2? Also, I was looking into FLL but I'm confused...is this book only grammar? Is it taught simultaneously with WWE? Is this a book that need to be taught from book 1 so he won't miss any important grammar lessons? I know his school taught him grammar but I'm not confident in how well it was taught or how much information he was actually retaining. Thanks in advance!
  2. I am working on plans for my DD who will be starting 1st grade soon. I am planning on using Memoria Press for a lot of it. However, I am questioning if I should add WWE 1 and FLL1. I really liked using those with my older kids and am questioning if there is enough of that covered in MP curriculum. I am also wondering if the overall load is to much. Take a look and at what I am planning and give me your honest opinions. Thanks! WW1 FLL1 Memoria Press Phonics and new Traditional spelling MP Lit (1st grade level) MP copybook MP recitations MP enrichment/ crafts Rod and Staff math 1 SOTW 1 Behold and See 1 (science)
  3. Hi, I want to buy FLL 3 Instructor book so my question is that are all the contents from FLL 3 Student book included in FLL 3 Instructor book? Can I just buy FLL 3 Instructor book as it's parent intensive so can we do most of it orally? Recommendations and experiences please! :confused1: Thanks!
  4. Hi all, While supplies last, we're offering VERY LIGHTLY scratched/scuffed books from Well-Trained Mind Press for 60% off the cover price! We have The Story of the World (activity books, textbooks, and tests), First Language Lessons, Writing With Ease, Writing With Skill, The Creative Writer, Telling God's Story, and many more. These books (which, honestly, aren't very scratched, and just look like they'll look once your children have them for a few weeks anyway) are only available through our office, not our website, so call 1.877.322.3445 to find out what's available and to make your purchase. Justin from Well-Trained Mind Press
  5. Hi all, Just wanted to let you know that "Grammar for the Well-Trained Mind," our follow-up to "First Language Lessons," is now available in PDF on our website. The physical books are AT THE PRINTER NOW and if you don't think we POPPED CORKS when we sent them out the door then you are WRONG. They should be on our shelves in just a few weeks (6? 5?) and we will announce it here and elsewhere. They can also be preordered from Amazon. Also, SWB filmed three videos explaining and demonstrating this new grammar curriculum. See them on our YouTube channel. Thanks for your patience!
  6. I started out the year using Sonlight LA 4. We finished our 3rd week, and I am not happy. My daughter will be 9 next month, and we consider her a 4th grader. She hasn't had a lot of grammar and writing instruction. We've tried BJU English, but it doesn't seem to stick with her. After spending some time with samples... I think the FLL and WWE combination would be a good fit for both of us. I need placement help. I've looked at the "placement tests", but I guess I'm hoping for some confirmation from those who have been there and used that. FLL - I was considering using FLL 3 with her. She has had a basic introduction to the 8 parts of speech and 4 types of sentences. She has not had a lot of practice work to help her understand exactly what those mean and how to use them. She has never seen a diagrammed sentence. I think FLL 3 would be good. Agree? WWE - This is where I'm stuck. She struggles with remembering a sentence to write it down. (dictation) If I ask her to write 1 sentence, she asks me to repeat it several times. Her spelling is awful, so that doesn't help. She can provide a decent oral narration when asked, but I've never asked her to write one out. Anytime I ask her to do any writing that requires thought, she shuts down. --- So.... I was thinking she might benefit from level 2. Is she a bit too old for that level? Should I put her in level 3 to match up with FLL? *** Also, I'm considering using Spelling You See (Wild Tales) with her. I do not like AAS. We've tried it in the past. We used the first 2 1/2 levels, and it has not helped her to become a better speller. Using basic spelling lists with daily review doesn't work either. At best, she remembers about 70% of the words, and I'm not sure she could actually still spell them 2 weeks later. Thank you in advance for your opinions and wisdom!
  7. Hi y'all, We just received a truckload of our own books that can't be sold in bookstores, since they have tiny dings, bends, or scratches on them (the content is unaffected). So we're selling them for 60% off the cover price. Writing With Ease, Story of the World, First Language Lessons, Writing With Skill, The Top-Secret Guide to Getting Your In-Laws to Stop Nagging You About Your Homeschooling Choices, and more! Ok, one of those may have been a joke. The books are at our office, not our warehouse, so you'll need to purchase them by phone. Call 1.877.322.3445 to find out what's available, and to buy! Justin from Peace Hill Press
  8. Wondering if any of you seasoned mamas can help me out? I am trying to find a new language arts curriculum for Gr2 next year, and Gr1 next year for my 2 kids. I tried Before-5 in a Row for preschool LA and found it boring, the books were simpler than what I would have chosen to read, and I didn't like all the extra "fluff" chat. I tried LLATL blue book for Gr1 this year and found the extra activities boring, the books they chose boring for the most part... Just ended up using the phonics readers and scrapping all the extra work. I am using HWT for writing this year as my daughter has CP and has fine motor difficulty, so we do a lot of oral work. I scrapped the book list from LLATL, and we just choose more challenging books and I get them to do narrations afterwards (like mini book reports, orally). I alternate that with having them retell the story in their own words. For pleasure we read chapter books out loud. I am thinking of trying Spelling Workout for spelling, continuing with choosing stories of my own and doing narrations for comprehension. We have lots of phonics books and early readers that will cover Gr1-2. I am at a loss for what to do for just simply grammar. That is not too "fluffy", nor too boring, nor move too quickly... Haven't tried FLL or R&S but have read mixed reviews of both, so not sure what to do.
  9. I'm planning to do FLL 1 or 1/2 with Buddy next fall if he's interested. (K4, turning 5 in November) I have seen some talk about the differences between the new FLL 1 and the older, combined FLL 1&2. I'm looking for input from those of you who have used either or both and what your opinions are on the differences/similarities in these. I vaguely recall hearing people liking the combined 1/2 book better?
  10. My fourth grader is finishing FLL level 4. Can I just do Latin (MP's First Form Latin) for next year and count that as language arts? I plan to continue Writing With Ease. I just didn't know if I had to continue with some language arts curriculum or use Latin instead. I need to use my time wisely as we have a lot of kids.
  11. We're going to be in St Louis, MO, for a week at the end of April with our First Lego League team from the UK. We won't have a lot of free time, I expect, but as I don't travel much (only my second time out the UK in the past 20 years) I'd like to see *something* that makes me feel as if the credit card debt and stress to get us there was worth it. When I google St Louis, all I'm reading is that there's absolutely no reason why a tourist would want to visit the place. This isn't very helpful, seeing as we don't have a choice! So, someone, tell me about St Louis. I'm a country girl at heart, so I find cities daunting and people scary, but y'know, the UK is tiny, our weather is bland and we queue a lot (yes the rumour is true), so a change would be good :) Tell me what to expect...what to see...what to avoid...what to pack. Just tell me stuff!
  12. Hey y'all, Just a quick reminder that Peace Hill Press has lowered its prices by 20% on nearly everything in the store...and we've lowered the prices on our already-discounted "School in a Box" kits by 10%. No need to enter coupon codes, etc; the prices are already cut. This sale continues through Monday at noon Eastern time. Justin at PHP
  13. My son will be starting second grade in a few months. I'm lookiing into a formal grammar program. He has not done formal grammar. We use MFW and plan to use Adventures. But, I'm not loving their suggestion of PLL for grammar. I'm looking at FLL. If I were to go this route, should I start at level 1 or level 2. I know the grade doesn't matter. But, it says FLL 1 is for 1st grade and 2 is for 2nd and so on. I don't see a way to assess where he should be placed. He hasn't been exposed to anything formal, but I don't want it to be too easy for him either. I was able to see a very small sample of both FLL 1 and 2. I didn't see any of the copy work in 1, but I did see it in 2. He can definitely do that copy work easily (at least at the beginning of the book ;)). But, we've never talked about what a noun is at all. So....I don't know. My thought maybe we should start at 1 now and move quickly through anything easy for him. Then, move on to 2 when we finish. That way I am sure he has the foundation. Thoughts from those who have BTDT?? I'm also looking at Rod and Staff English 2. The two seem very different in style. I do tend to like workbooks and my son does well with them. Are these programs easy to switch back and forth from? Like, if we choose FLL and decide we want to give the workbook approach a try, could we easily change from one to the other after a year? Of course, I assume we would want to settle on one or the other for the long haul. And, if we like what we choose, we would just stick with that. Which program allows for more independent work now? Or as we go up? I assume they are both fairly teacher intensive now because it is still only 2nd grade and my son has never had formal grammar. However, I do have 5 younger children including twins doing K, twins who are about to turn 3 and an almost 5 month old. So, if one is slighly more independent than the other, that might be good. ;) Is one or the other better in the long run? Does one or the other give the student a better understanding and foundation of grammar or are they equal in that regard? Thank you in advance for your help and insight!!
  14. I just started Logic of English Essentials and FLL2 with my 1st grader. She is reading at around a 5th or 6th grade level and previously completed 18 months of WRTR. She is doing well with both programs. I am thinking of dropping FLL 2 to simplify things. (I have other little ones and I am not getting everything done). What level is the grammar in LOE compared to the FLL series? After we complete LOE (it may take longer than a year) where would she be on grammar? Should I wait a year to come back to FLL 2? I hope this makes sense. :-)
  15. My 1st grade dd struggles a lot with writing. She is reading at what I would probably consider a 2nd or 3rd grade level, but her handwriting is not good at all! I have been searching around for different writing programs that will start at the beginning with letter formation or simple copywork (no more than one sentence at a time) for her, but not sure which direction to go. We have done Handwriting Without Tears, and I like it okay, but I want something beyond just "here's a letter, write it 10 times"-- she does better if she can write something with a purpose.
  16. Sometimes our books are damaged in the printer-to-warehouse-to-bookstore journey, and we can no longer sell them at full price. But if you don't mind a bit of minor wear & tear (small scratches, etc), you can save money on all kinds of Peace Hill Press products! We keep a list of currently-available discounted books here. Since they're kept at our office, rather than at our warehouse, you'll need to order them by phone. Call us at 1.877.322.3445.
  17. This is my first year with a First LEGO League team. If your child is on a team, do you use the topic as your science? This year's theme is Nature's Fury and I'm thinking of just having this as the science for the first quarter. Capt Uhura
  18. I have one child who is transitioning from first to second grade. (I use the grade thing loosely because I find it difficult to label grades in homeschooling.) She is 7. I'm needing a grammar program for her. FLL was a complete bust for us. It was boring. We had some personal issues with the curriculum. We ended up skipping a lot of the material because she either knew it or didn't need the correction being offered. Would MCT (Grammar Island) be too advanced for a 7 year old? And if so, what should I use instead? I also have a child transitioning into first grade. He'll be 6 next month. And I need a replacement grammar for him because I am not putting myself through another year of FLL. Any suggestions? Could he use MCT, as well?
  19. I would love feedback on how these programs compare. If you have used one or any, please let me know your thoughts. We have used FLL for one year. I personally find level 1 to be great and level 3 makes me want to gnaw my arm off slowly. My dh likes them both, so he does that work and he would like to continue FLL because of the repetition, copy work, poetry, and memorization. My kids don't mind them, but I wouldn't say they look forward to them with anticipation. I do like the poems, memorization, and copy work. We haven't used WWE or IEW. What do you like or dislike? If you combine any of them, how do you do it? MCT looks so visually appealing, inspiring and simple. It's way more expensive than it should be, IMO but maybe worth it. Another post indicated the MCT program was great at explaining good writing, but not at showing how to write. Is IEW supposed to be combined with another LA program? Well, I've asked enough questions. ;)
  20. Hi Everyone, I'm a bit stumped on what to use next year. My daughter used FLL, and we just finished up level 4. But, as you know if you've used it - there is no next level. What did you use after? Thanks in advance!
  21. Has anybody used FLL 3 without the workbook? If so, I would love to hear how it worked for you. Thanks!
  22. I really need advice choosing my curriculum this year for A age 11, E age 6, and Z age 4. Primarily I am asking for suggestions on the younger two and encouragement with A. I feel like I have failed miserably many times with A. Backstory...I schooled my eldest to from K-3 using Abeka which was very successful despite the difficulties of finishing all the pages. (Yes, I am a check marker.) C and N tested above level when they entered public school and are top in their classes today, still ps. Due to A's age, she would get the least amount of my time by default. I found it very difficult to figure out how to get it all done in a day. When older two went to ps, now was my time to get back on track but soon realized Abeka wasn't a good fit for A. We tested many other curriculum and finally settled on several that were successful coupled with her maturing age. Later it became quite apparent that A struggled with dyslexia. This past year was to be extremely difficult so we chose to use Switched on Schoolhouse due to it not being teacher intensive. A thrives on setting and achieving goals, and being organized. Independence is very important to A as well. Each of these things SOS offered but it became more teacher intensive than I expected. I had to help her with much of the reading, print out many worksheets to extend lessons, and quiz her time and again to make sure she "got it". Even so we saw drastic improvement in the quality of her work. A would love to use SOS again but due to strained finances and amount of hands-on teaching, I am considering other options. Ace's Paces are at the top of the list even though they are not popular due to lack of hands on teaching and slow approach possibly making them behind other curriculum both of which could be an asset to A. The slow approach to new skills would allow A the extra practice she needs while boosting her self-esteem and allow me to focus on my younger two school age children and 2yr old toddler. I would still be available for hands-on teaching but hopefully not as much as sos required. Am I making a mistake diverting from what is working even if time consuming and expensive? Can you advise me on the best curriculum for E and Z, age 6 (1st) and 4 (K)? I don't want to make the same mistakes I did with A with them and cause them to be behind. All of my children are very intellegent, of course, but I believe E and Z will be the easiest to teach. E is quick to learn new concepts, eager to learn, has outstanding memory recall, and a long attention span. Z is eager to learn but has short attention span due to his young age. His memory is excellent but I have noticed it can be quite random at times. He struggles with sequencing. Both E and Z enjoyed the worksheets I printed last year leaving me to believe workbooks are a good fit. I don't believe E will need as much review built in as Z does. In theory, I think Abeka may be a great fit for both but am concerned I will get bogged down. I remember it being so difficult to get it all completed without knowing if it all was necessary and if not what to cut. Maybe my memory is tainted due to A finding it so difficult or maybe it is just "too much." If I don't choose Abeka, I have several leftovers during our trial days but am second and third guessing everything I do. Below is a list of my bookshelves. Abeka: all teacher manuals, keys, and readers for K-3. (workbooks is all needed) Phonics Pathways and Reading Pathways (A found it boring but it helped tremendously.) ETC : level b-c, level 5 and 6 workbook (E loved working level a-b last year and A loved 2-4 when she did them) (only complaint I remember is lack of color) Abecedarian Phonics: don't have level A but have teacher manual level b ( A enjoyed level B) Sequential Spelling 1 (loved and used same concepts for spelling words in sos) Apples and Pears level A workbook and teacher manual (given by a friend but never tried with A) (new condition) RightStart Math Level A and B entire kit (used but complete from yardsale.. found recently but haven't had opportunity to try) Singapore Math levels 1-3 teachers guides and some workbooks (A enjoyed SM but I had difficulty teaching it. I had trouble juggling guides, textbooks and workbooks and knowing what to teach exactly. Mental math isn't my strong suit although A excelled with it. She was grouping back in her Abeka days before it was taught to her because she could memorize her math facts, etc. I am strongly considering it if I can make the time fit.) Miquon Math all levels and books (never understood it and don't think I will attempt again) Apologia Zoology FLL 3: (too dry for A) WWE manual and workbook (A hated it. Sorry.) Winston Grammar (bought new at yardsale recently) Easy Grammar 6 (new at yardsale recently) Beautiful Feet timeline and books Story of The World (given to me by a friend...looks interesting) BTW, I love the idea of more literature based learning such as sonligIht but know it will be difficult with three kids and a toddler. The expense is too much as well. I am not sure it is a great fit for anyone in my family other than me, the only avid reader.
  23. So I have read through quite a few threads about the various levels of MCT and where to start students, and I'm still indecisive about what I should do, so I'm hoping those who have used it can give me their informed opinions. My daughter has done FLL 2 and 3 and the first part of Level 1 of KISS. She can recite all the memorized definitions from FLL, but honestly has a little trouble applying any of that knowledge to other things. She can fairly reliably find subjects and verbs, but beyond that she's pretty inconsistent. I really think the four part sentence analysis will help with this. So my concern with MCT is that the Island level will be just simple enough to not engage her, but then again I worry that the Town level is just a bit too much without having done MCT before. I've seen Crimson Wife's plan where she says to start with Sentence Island then move on to the Town level. Is this what I should do, or I should I just go faster through Island just to make sure she's got that part down? Thanks for any advice and help you can give!!
  24. I am planning to use WWE next year for my 4th grader. We have not done any formal grammar, but plenty of copy work. We have tried dictation and she did fine with it. Should I go through FLL and WWE? We are going to start with WWE 3.
  25. We pulled our 3rd grade DD out of public school this school year (in October). In many ways, we're still trying to figure out what works best for us, and I can't for the life of me decide on what to use for LA next year! I'll have two 1st graders and a 3rd grader. So, for Grammar this year (3rd grade), we've used Abeka Language and a little bit of FLL 3. Abeka came highly recommended to me, and I figured we would continue it next year, but now I'm not so sure. I go over things with my DD, but many pages seem like "too much" for her in independent work (she gets a lot wrong on some pages). I'm wondering if grammar needs to be something that I do WITH her the whole time? I was wanting something more independent, though, as I'll also be working with two in 1st grade next year. My DD and language: She HATES writing! Says she "likes" Abeka Language, but some pages are "too hard." We haven't done much of the writing in Abeka. Instead, we've done narrations/copywork for history (SOTW) and a little science. We're just now trying a bit of WWE2. We're using Spelling Workout, which seems to be okay, but she's not a great speller (we're in book C). As far as writing, I'm intrigued by what I hear of IEW, but our budget is pretty tight. When using the WWE books, is other writing instruction necessary? Or is that enough for writing? It seems more like reading comprehension exercises? I've looked at MCT, which seems expensive. My DD doesn't LOVE language, so I'm not sure if that would be a good fit. Or does it help to instill a love of language? If I did try that out, is it very teacher intensive? What particular books (Island) would I need to get? I hear a lot of good things about R&S, but it looks a bit boring to me? Does MCT do diagramming? Or should I maybe just do FLL3 next year, since I already have that? I don't want to overload my DDs with "workbook" stuff, but I can't seem to figure out a good combo of curriculum. Sorry for the randomness and confusion of this post. I'm confused! Ha ha! I just want to figure out what LA would be best for a child who doesn't get super excited about language, and has trouble being motivated to "do her work." She's not real big on reading yet, either, but there's improvement as we continue to work on that. At this point, some of school seems too mundane and boring for her, although I'm trying to make it fun. :) What has worked well for your kiddos who may not be very excited about language? Oh, she DOES love to learn poems, although we haven't done a lot of that yet.
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