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  1. We have decided to homeschool (boys ages 7 &11) and I wanted a full curriculum program to start. We decided on BookShark because it seems simple. We have started with Package A and D+E condensed. I understand they are "faith neutral" rather than secular which isn't my favorite thing. I have been reading and seeing that RS4K is used, but I am not quite sure what from RS4K is used in either of those packages. I do prefer to have things as secular as possible, so I am a bit apprehensive and would like any insight on this. I think we have a pretty solid foundation on teaching evolution. We spend a lot of time outdoors, hiking, visiting National Parks (we are a military family and have had the privilege of traveling a lot) so I think we are capable of teaching these things through real life learning, but I would like to know which items included in these kits I need to be wary of so I can have conversations with my kids about these topics/supplement learning where needed. I am also open to any ideas to supplement.
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  3. I'm wrapping up prehistory studies from a study guide of sorts that I put together myself to use with my first homeschooler and now the second. It is geared for 1st-3rd grade level (Maybe K-3rd). I initially used it with DD in 1st grade followed by SOTW V1 in 2nd. My DS is just finishing it at the end of 2nd grade and will start SOTW soon. It has thirteen units and can be done weekly or over a longer period of time. I'm wondering if there is interest if I were to make this available as a PDF download for purchase? (I did post this on the Secular Group, but I don't think there's much activity there so cross posting here too. Hope that's OK).
  4. I'm looking for resources for teaching evolution as God's design. I've seen secular science books and lots of anti-evolution stuff, but nothing really in between. I have great resources for helping adults sort out their questions, but not much geared directly toward kids. If I can't find any, I'll write my own lessons on meaning, purpose, dignity, and value, on ways to take Genesis seriously, and on how evolution demonstrates God's generous love, but if this is already out there, that would be better! Please post your favorite resources either here or in the social group called Evolultionary Creation. (Or if there's another thread with the same info, please point me to it.) I'm putting the same request in the k-8 board. Many thanks.
  5. I'm looking for resources for teaching evolution as God's design (call it evolutionary creation, theistic evolution, or what-have-you). I have great resources for adults to sort out their questions, but I haven't found much that's good for kids. If I can't find any, I'll write my own lessons on meaning, purpose, dignity, and value, on the range of ways to take Genesis seriously, and on the ways that evolution demonstrates God's generous love, but if it's already been done, that would be better! Please post your favorite resources here or in the social group called Evolutionary Creation. I'm also posting the same request in the 9-12 section, so don't bother to reply there also. Many thanks.
  6. OK, so here I am--average mom, homeschooling the people, learning latin, and mainly doing experiments on whether or not I can buy healthy food for my 8 and stay under budget. In my spare time, though, I burn the midnight oil reading books like, "North and South Pole," "The Disappearing Spoon," and last but not least "The Faith of Scientists." (The last book is a collection of scientists' own writing on their faith or non-faith.) I really enjoy reading about how the earth's spreading seafloor records earth's changing magnetism over billions of years. It's explained in detail and I get it. It makes sense to me. I can read a huge volume explaining scientists' thoughts on faith and religion and I can get it--both of them, the faithful and those who are secure in the belief that the earth was not created. I can read a book about chemistry and understand how we know how elements form, break down, spread throughout the universe--it makes sense to me and I get it. But when I put a video on for my kids and a picture of a mammal pops up and the slow drone of the announcer tells us all (while the pictures show it) how this mammal lost its legs, grew fins, etc, etc, etc, and turned into a dolphin, I JUST DON"T GET IT. I am looking at this science, I am listening, but the whole thing seems so ridiculously, hilariously, miraculously walking on water ridiculous to me. Yes, I will use the word ridiculous twice. Apparently, I am one of those many generic unscientific Americans who look at the theory of evolution and question how "believable" it is. But it's not just me. I can't think of a single science teacher I had in public school who ever gave evolution more than a cursory nod. It was such a non-issue. I wish that there was some writing for people like me--people who are willing to study and learn, but really wrestle with the whole "believability" factor."
  7. My preschooler asked, "Who was the first person?" a couple of times until I thought of an answer, "Do you want to hear what I think is the answer, or do you want to hear what I think the other kids think?" (both) " Some people think that Adam and Eve were the first people, that's what all your friends probably think. I think nobody knows because nobody was there." I showed him the human evoloution pages in the World History book. I said, "I think that at one time there were a lot less people, but I don't think there ever was just one person or two people. I think there were a hundred people, at least." Now he asked, "How did the first person get here?" Leonard on the Big Bang Theory showing Penny a hologram of the Earth and the Universe Explaining that there's a theory that the universe is a hologram of data stored somewhere at the rim. That's when my kid asked, "How did the first person get here?" Could someone tell me what's the story there? I kinda got the gist of the spiel, we're made of stardust. Natural selection and adaptation led to a bottleneck in evolution where there were probably a few hundred "first" people, the kind we'd call people, evolved up from the Sasquatch. My kids probably going to ask this question a couple of times in the next couple of months, so anything you guys could share... I could use the answers in a couple of conversations with gradually more details. Also, please don't limit your answer to what I need to say to a preschooler. I try to find middle school answers to questions because I know they'll come up again over the years and I want to stay one step ahead of my kid.
  8. So, I'm not really searching for curriculum right now, since my son is in school, but I dream of homeschooling someday, and I particularly love looking at science curriculum since DS is a science freak. All my looking has left me wondering, is there a science curriculum out there that teaches that: 1) God created the universe and 2) He did so approximately 14 billion years ago? If not, why not? Is it simply that there wouldn't be enough of a market for it? I've found secular programs and young earth Christian programs, even a few "neutral" programs that say they present both views (though they seem to all be written by Christians, so I find it hard to believe they're not at least a bit biased). Now, if I do end up teaching my son, I'm sure I can figure out how to modify either a secular or a YE program, but I'm still left wondering why there doesn't seem to be a program written specifically for people like me. In the Christian circles I run in, Young Earth Creationists are the exception, not the rule. Surely I'm not the only one who would love a curriculum like this.
  9. Hey, all, I'm piecing together my science stuff for the year and I've gotten to "Erosion". My kids are in 6th and 4th. Any suggestions on the best resources? I don't want an entire text book, but perhaps small units, ebooks, lapbooks, etc.? I would also love to do a comparison on the erosion topic between the evolution vs. divine design view points, to see both sides. Any one have info on that? Thanks! Melissa
  10. I'm putting together a secular 8 week prehistory and evolution unit for my kids (almost 4 and 7), who are fascinated by dinosaurs, geology, and "cavemen." I'm using Usborne's Internet Linked World History as a spine. I've found quite a few really good resources, and I'd love to hear yours! Awakening Wonders has coloring/notebook pages at different levels. I found prehistory units at the blogs Classical Charlotte, Dottie's Universe, Teaching Stars, and Satori Smiles. I like this Montessori teacher's approach to explaining the Big Bang. The Toilet Paper Timeline seems like a clever way to visualize geologic time. A good critical thinking, math, science, and literature unit based on dinosaurs can be found in the kindergarten tab at Paso Partners. Little City Kids has units on Dinosaurs, the Ice age, Stone age and origins of agriculture. This lapbook on the book Magic School Bus Sunset for the Sabertooth might come in handy for this period as well. Want to make snacks to go along with your units? Check out the Geologic and Paleontologic Cookbook. We'll be having a few ammonites in a blanket and trilobite cookies! They have other activities, too. Fossil Facts and Finds has good information on pre-dinosaur periods, and teaching resources for older than early elementary. And of course, there is Charlie's Playmat (or poster, since the playmat seems to be out of stock.) They have a great list of books about evolution for kids, too. We'll be watching the "Walking With..." series - Walking With Prehistoric Beasts, Walking With Dinosaurs, Walking With Cavemen. We'll be doing a few crafts and activities like the classic baking soda and vinegar volcano, making fossils, egg carton alligator for early reptiles, and playdough Cambrian creatures. And there are a few field trips on our list, to the US Geological Society, zoo, planetarium, and natural history museum. We went to Colorado last summer and there are so many great field trips there! Wish that was on our list this time around! :) Are there other resources I'm missing?
  11. I hope I have not been asking too many questions recently. :D I know this is a possible hot topic but I'm not looking to debate these topics, just teaching them. Do you teach evolution in depth? Dinosaurs? Anything prehistoric? What do you use, or what do you do? I'm planning ds's school year and a bit of a guide for the future (mostly following TWTM, but not exactly as written). I want to combine science, history and geography for a year or so and work off of a timeline from the beginning as known until the ancients, or the start of the people. Is this too big a time period? It's only a few billion years, right? Can't be *that* hard :001_huh:. He just turned 7, so I'm not looking for serious studies, just a way to touch on some key points.
  12. I am attempting to put together an Origins study for my 12yo son to complete prior to starting Biology in the fall. The problem is, I keep finding more and more "recommended" resources...lol I need to whittle this down to something we can accomplish in 2-3 months. Evolution PBS Movies on the subject "Charles Darwin and the Tree of Life" (movie) The Beak of the Finch (book) Evolution: Howe We & All Living Things Came to Be (book) The Magic of Reality (Dawkins) Your Inner Fish (Shubin) Charles Darwin on the Origin of the Species – Illustrated Why Evolution is True (Coyne) Old Earth The Bible, Rocks and Time: Geological Evidence for the Age of the Earth The Lost World of Genesis One The Evolution of Adam (Enns) The Biblical Case for an Old Earth (have) HAVE: Origins of the Species Revisited Young Earth Resources…AIG online articles and some videos. I would like something that compares/contrasts all three... and I need to whittle down my Evolution books to probably the top three or four. Thank you for any insight into this!
  13. This may be an odd question, but I will attempt it anyway. We are Young Earth Creationists, but I want to make sure my kids get a very solid understanding of evolution, being the current, widely accepted, prevalent scientific understanding of things. I was taught science using aBeka, and thought I understood evolution, but it turns out I was completely misinformed about what evolutionists believe or accept. Is there a good science curriculum out there that does a solid job explaining both evolution and Creationism /Intelligent Design? Thanks!
  14. What are you using to teach evolution? Books, websites, videos...
  15. Does anyone have any recommedations for studies on fossils and evolution based on fossil evidence? This has always been a big interest with my DD and this is one of the topics she has requested now that we have decided to make this year a gap year.
  16. Okay - I could google for this/these, but I often find that specific suggestions from people work out better. I'm looking for some good sites pertaining to evolution, big bang theory, dinosaurs, etc etc… engaging stuff designed for kids - nothing that requires a scientist hanging around to translate. :tongue_smilie: This is for kids who were initially taught from a 'young earth creationist' viewpoint - I'm now looking for stuff that explains this solely from the secular-science side of things. Any suggestions? Websites, videos (note: I'm in Canada and don't have access to all those 'watch tv for free' sites you all have down there).. book suggestions also welcome. Thanks! :D
  17. How and when do you start? We will be teaching Creation, and that gets done just by Bible study, really. BUT I want DD to be well versed in evolution too, since the many of the people she meets will have been taught that. Not to mention I'm a pretty firm believe of learning all sides of something to form an opinion. At what age do you suggest introducing the idea of evolution? Thanks!
  18. I'm looking for a complete science program, secular in nature for my middle schooler that loves science. I'm hoping for something that isn't dry but that can continue to keep his interests going. He tends to do a lot of reading and watching of the discovery channel but is hesitant to do actual, science work, anything structured. He's getting to the age where I feel he needs more structure. I'm probably asking for a lot, but I'm hoping too that such program can be adapted to my second grader too--also a science fanatic. Does such a program exist? Any suggestions?
  19. My 8yo is fascinated with fossils and the idea of evolution. I've let her run with it and read up on some weird evolutionary creatures. At church, they are using Answers in Genesis resources and hammering the kids with anti-evolution, pro-creation information. I don't mind this - I'm a middle of the road, find the facts for yourself kind of person. I don't judge people based upon whether they are evol or creationist or whatever. But my dd is leaving church very frustrated. I'm trying to get her to see that maybe there is some validity to either side of the argument. Dh and I always tell her that our God is all powerful and can do anything He wants to do. If God wants to create the world a certain way, He can (whether we say He can or not!) So, I'd like to find a nice middle of the road book that presents evolution and creation as possibilities to consider. Anything out there like that? Or am I just going to have to write my own? LOL!
  20. Hi, I'm not a troll, I've been here for a long time :lol:, and this is a serious request. Long before this recent kerfluffle started, I had planned to do a course showing both the creation and evolution perspectives. Being a creationist I have a source for that side. (FWIW, I deplore what Ken Ham is doing--I hate it when a person I agree with theologically leaves logic and goodwill behind, acts like a total jerk, and then cries persecution. It makes me cringe to be a Christian and a creationist. So, back to the topic, I hope . . .) However, with atrociously bad timing, now is when I need a source for the evolution side, written by someone from that perspective. I need something engaging that young people can understand, something that gives a solid overview, and something that is not waaaay too long a tome. It does not have to be a "textbook." Any ideas, wise hive?
  21. I'm trying to find a good science program for dd next year (6th). I stumbled upon these: http://saxonhomeschool.hmhco.com/en/products/default.htm?level2Code=M0010&level3Code=M31099&level4Code=M000129&level5Code= They have free homeschool lesson plans. I'm still unsure if the labs are doable at home, but I'm strongly considering giving one of these programs a go next year. It seems like an easier solution than PH or CPO. We tried OM earlier this year, but it wasn't a good fit for dd. I'm pretty sure we will use OM for high school science, though. They have a syllabus with homeschool-appropriate labs and lab kits (squee!). What do you think of the Saxon packages? What do you use for science (all grades)? Is evolution taught or even mentioned as fact in what you use? Anyone know of any evolution-based science programs that come with a supply kit packaged for homeschool use? That's what I really want. *sigh*
  22. I think these look great, especially the flip book (how fins evolved to feet)! That cracked me up. :D Check out: http://www.charliesplayhouse.com/ Any other secular fun stuff for evolution?
  23. Wouldn't one need to differentiate between micro evolution and macro evolution or are we lumping it all in there together? just curious
  24. In an attempt to keep our biology studies simple for me, I chose Apologia Biology for my ds. I want to add an evolution study to it. If I have my ds read: The Origin of Species Darwin on Trial, Johnson Why Evolution is True, Coyne Would this be enough? He wants to be a scientist and I want him to have a firm grasp of the issues surrounding this issue. If you would add anything (or delete anything) what would it be? TIA!
  25. The Counter-Creationism Handbook by Mark Isaak The Evolution Handbook by Sara Stein The First Human by Ann Gibbons Only a Theory by Kenneth Miller The Politically Incorrect Guide to Darwinism and Intelligent Design by Jonathan Wells Evolution for Everyone by David Sloan Wilson Why Evolution is True (sorry don't have author right now) Intelligent Thought edited by John Brockman The Greatest Show on Earth by Richard Dawkins Darwin's Dangerous Idea by Daniel Dennett Endless Forms Most Beautiful by Sean Carroll Evolution the Triumph of an Idea by Carl Zimmerman That's 12 books to get you started. If anyone else knows of any other good books, please feel free to add to the list.
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