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  1. We are new to homeschooling. I have 2 daughters 4th grader & 5th grader. Looking for curriculum reviews/advice. They are fast learners. 5th grader very quick self teaching/learner. We looked at Abeka and like the scope of it but girls hate videos of classroom setting and time when teacher is just walking around. So we have also looked at ACE paces but read old reviews saying it was "dumbed down" and slower paced and not as in depth as Abeka. But also had a friend say she loved it for her daughter (9th & 10th grade) who ended up going back to public school and ended up on honor roll last 2 years of high school. I also like the look of CLE and have read math is spiral which we are ok with and it might be advanced compared to public schools. Lastly, we looked at BJU and if we had to use a video program the girls prefer it as it is just the teacher. However, some of the videos look a little immature for 5th grade ( puppet in English 5 videos). With this being said, I would greatly appreciate any advice and love to hear any experience with the above mentioned curriculums. I know some either love a curriculum or hate it. Either way I would like to hear what you have to say.
  2. I need success stories from those who have used CLE LA for elementary and middle school. Do you feel the grammar was covered well? Do you feel they missed something by doing CLE? Did they test well?
  3. Does anyone know whether CLE Civics & World Geography (listed as 9th grade course) and/or World History (listed as 10th grade course) are anything like their 8th grade American History course/text called Changing Frontiers? We're using the latter now and it is absolutely perfect for DD13 for 7th grade. I'd love to continue with one of the former courses for her 8th grade year if they are written in the same spirit. We're secular homeschoolers, fwiw. It looks like the 9th/10th courses have no textbook, which would be a big difference from the 8th grade course. Anyone know how secular-friendly they would be? How thorough and academically rigorous, compared to Changing Frontiers?
  4. Hi. I'm doing some research for next school year. My DD6 will be in second grade next year. For first grade language arts we used FLL1, WWE1, Zaner-Bloser Handwriting 1 & then had a really hard time with spelling. A Reason for Spelling was too easy and had too much busywork. We tried K-12 reader and the words were the right level but it had no guidance. I am a natural speller and don't really know any spelling rules, but I would like her to know them. I need hand holding in this regard. We're trying out AAS, which I know will be too easy but may be what I'm looking for as far as spelling. Anyway, I'm finding that having all these pieces for Language Arts, just isn't working for us. We manage to do FLL but are way behind in WWE because we just don't get to it each day. We're doing ok with handwriting. It all feels disjointed. I don't think it's the curriculum... it's definitely us (or maybe, just me). What I'm thinking of doing is CLE LA 2 next year which would cover just about everything. I feel like writing could be covered through the content areas fairly well. I've noticed, however, that many people skip the spelling but I am not finding any clear reason as to why. I've looked over the samples and the words look appropriate for grade level and I see that they include spelling rules. Am I missing some glaring issue? I'm not opposed to doing a different spelling program, but I want to understand why I would need to first. Anyone with experience want to explain? Thanks.
  5. I know a lot of people love R&S LA - we've used CLE LA and my children have really enjoyed it. However, I'm having curriculum indecision. I'm wondering if it would be worth trying R&S or if we should just stick with what I know, firsthand, works for my children.
  6. I tried this question on the high school board but only got crickets. CLE has an accredited option that interests me for my high school students. However, the length of the lessons as well as the teacher involvement cause me to questions if it will work for us. My hands will be very full this fall and little time will be available for me to get into intensive teacher instruction for my high school students. We are currently using CLE math for 1, 3, & 6th grades, so the math lesson duration is somewhat familiar to me. Any input you may have about the other subjects and the coaching responsibility times for teaching lessons would be very helpful (especially if you are using CLE for your middle school or high school student.) Thanks!
  7. Here's my dilemma: 9th grader starting Algebra 1 and I am trying to decide b/w Saxon Algebra 1 and CLE Algebra 1. I realize CLE goes no further and there is no geometry. The draw is that CLE workbook style looks appealing and the reviews all good and much cheaper than Saxon. So what's the problem you say? Well the attraction of Saxon is that I am looking to go to Saxon for Algebra 2 and beyond. I heard that the geometry credit doesn't start until Algebra 2 and on into Advanced Math. So I am thinking to get his geometry credit it won't matter if we do another vendor for Algebra 1...right???? Or am I wrong about the geometry? Since we are looking to do last 3 yrs of math with Saxon should we just start with Saxon instead of CLE and switching? But all the Saxon components are so much more expensive than CLE. Bottom line: I want to get the geometry credit that is woven into the Saxon Algebras and I want to make sure doing CLE for Algebra 1 instead of Saxon for Algebra 1 won't confuse him. Would it be better to stay with the same vendor/style for continuity and ease of learning in the long run? If it is worth the extra money for all of that I will pay it. Thx for any advice!
  8. Mostly, I'd love to hear from others who have used Abeka for Language for Grades 4 and up. I used it our first year of homeschooling for 3rd grade, along with FLL. That went well. Currently using CLE for my 3rd graders and have mostly used something else for my 6th grader this year. I'm considering Abeka for 7th, or possibly CLE. But I think I would have to start in the 600s with CLE for my DD. For her sake (having younger siblings), I would prefer something on "grade level." Workbooks for language work pretty well for us, I don't mind Christian content, and plan to supplement for composition. I know Abeka doesn't get a lot of mention here, but I know some have used it for grammar, so I'd love to hear your thoughts!
  9. My oldest, currently in 6th grade, is working through CLE Math 6. Doing well with it, mostly independently. I was thinking she would switch to Saxon (that's our preference) after this year, but now I'm having 2nd thoughts. I think my biggest hesitation is that I know she wouldn't be crazy about having to re-write the problems. I read another thread on here where one person said it's maybe a good idea to start Saxon 8/7 before jumping into Algebra (in other words, don't jump into Saxon in your Algebra year). That way they're familiar with how Saxon works before getting into the harder stuff. On the other hand, if I keep her in workbook format, it looks like CLE does Pre-Algebra in two years? I really would hate to cram that all into one. I'm really even unsure about what progression math "should" take. What is the general progression of Saxon (in what grades) through high school? She gets math pretty easily so far. Anyway, I'd love to hear what others have done. :)
  10. Have any of you transitioned from CLE Math to Saxon? I just gave my 11 year old son the placement for Saxon. He missed 5 on the 8/7 portion so that's where I'll place him...into 8/7 from CLE 610. When I looked through the Saxon text, it just seems like there is so much he already has learned and knows well. I'm not sure I'm making the right decision, but would like to transition for high school. I'd love to hear your experience if you've transitioned from one to the other, what grade you decided to do so and how the transition went for you.
  11. This is the only place I find https://www.clp.org/store/by_subject/3
  12. I have been thinking about a switch to CLE . After spending way too much time researching it, i gave my daughter the test for 500. Um.. Where are the answers? I downloaded the test. I could probably figure it out, but it is a looong test and will take a bit. Anyone know or have a link hint, hint that can help? Thanks!
  13. Before I place an order for CLE math, language arts, and reading - is there anything I need to be aware of in the content that would be adverse to Church teachings? Is it non existent, minimal, or will my attempts to steer away from it/explain it be a constant battle in the program?
  14. Hi, We have been homeschooling using a mostly read and narrate approach to comprehension, but due to a long illness, a move, and other circumstances the past couple of years I have not been able to do as much reading with my kids. :sad: I am now realizing they are quite behind in their language/reading skills. I have been considering doing a more workbook approach just because I feel they need some intensified lessons to hopefully catch them up. We will continue to read as a family and narrate as much as possible, but I am looking for recommendations for something they could work on independently every day. I wish I had done this two years ago when life became crazy. :cursing: I feel terrible. Anyway, I am leaning toward CLE or Monarch reading and language arts. Is this a good idea? Will it help? Any other suggestions? :confused1: My kids are 13, 11, and 9. My 11 year old is at least two grade levels behind in reading. I use All About Reading with the younger two so I don't need anything that teaches reading, just something to improve comprehension and thinking skills. I am driving myself crazy looking at different choices. I have even considered dropping all of my WTM pieced-together-curriculum and going to an all in one program. Thanks for your help.
  15. If you have used this program, I have a couple of questions. Is it possible to do this program without purchasing the flash cards? Does the teacher manual list what words the cards say or would I have to purchase them to know this information? My daughter really seems to hate flash cards, so I might enter the flash cards on an online program like Quizlet instead. As an alternative, I might just make "cards" for the words that she finds difficult. Do you add the language arts 100 level with the Learning to Read program or the regular reading program? I can't tell from looking at their website when to start the LA. Thank you so much for your help! Sherry
  16. Have any of you used any high school electives from Christian Light? I'd love to hear what you used and what you liked/didn't like.
  17. I am trying to figure out what to do for my son's language arts. You'd think after 8 years, I'd figure this. This child, though, doesn't do well with just absorbing things like the rest of the children have. I was looking at Essentials in Writing for him (middle child uses it and its OK). BUT, I don't think he will work well with that. I have Sonlight LA 2 (the 2013? one). That might work, but he HATES all the writing and balks at it daily. We have been working with it for half a year now and are only on week 4 for many things. He's one of those kids that likes to get in there and get it done without the extras. So, I was looking at CLE online but know nothing about it. I am fine with him being in a workbook-based language arts. I need it to be as complete as possible and not take a very long time to complete per day. Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions?
  18. My 9yr old daughter will be in fourth grade next year and we have happily been using CLE for two years now and plan to continue using it. However, I recognize that it definitely lacks in the mental math department and would love to add some of this in for her. We've played around with Beast Academy, but honestly it's not her style at all. She likes things straight forward. The few times I attempted to do an MEP lesson with her it just turns into a fight. She doesn't like being "taught" by me. So, friends, what kind of mental math would you add? She loves to read, so I've looked at Life of Fred. Does LoF include mental math? Would this work for what I'm looking for? What other student-driven supplements would you suggest? Thanks in advance for any help!!
  19. Does the TG assign pages in these? Or do I need to figure out which pages to do when and remember to do them on my own?
  20. Would love to hear CLE and Horizon users for 4th grade, I have some questions. My son is currently in public school - 3rd grade. We will start homeschooling for the first time after this school year and I plan to use CLE LA (of course I'll test him first to make sure). I chose CLE because its open & go. Do I need to add anything else to the CLE LA? I'm not crazy about CLE's Reading so I don't plan to get it. Any ideas what I can use or do for him? He already reads on a 4th to 5th grade level in 3rd grade. He is GREAT with vocab words. He's been dubbed "Word Master" in school because he retains words and definitions very quickly so I would love to continue to challenge him next year. He LOVES being challenged. For math I chose Horizons, but I'm wondering if I should stick with CLE for Math as well. Looking at the scope & sequence for both 4th grade levels and I see that my son is already covering everything this year in 3rd grade so its possible we will skip 4th math and go to 5th (again, we will test him). So does anyone have any experience with either of these 2 math curriculum's and share please? Thanks
  21. I have been using CLE for 5 years. My dd10 started with CLE when she was in 1st grade. My ds8 just started CLE last year in 1st grade. My dd6 tried CLE, but it did not work for her. We are using MUS for her. I'm tempted to switch everyone over to MUS. My ds8 gets math, but dd10 is having a hard time grasping long division. I wonder if MUS offers more of an explanation to the "whys" and, maybe it's a good thing to completely master something before moving on to a new concept? What do you guys think? It drives me nuts that I'm undecided. How do you think CLE compares to MUS? Part of my problem is that most of my homeschooling friends either use MUS or Saxon. I don't know anyone, except on here :), that uses CLE....and I start to question myself. Silly, I know. So, what would you guys do? Decide for me! :-)
  22. My son is in 1st grade and using MUS Alpha. He just doesn't get it. There are tears, there is no desire or urge to get any work done. Laying all over the work, dropping pencils continually. Everytime he watches the video, he says, "I don't understand." I went to MM from the beginning of the addition book, and he hates it too, it's like pulling teeth to get him to do the next problem, let alone a whole page. I'm not sure what to do for him. Maybe it's an attitude issue, but I'm hoping that finding something more along his line of thinking will help him find joy in it. I've always defended MUS because it's been wonderful for my daughter. Now I wonder if it has more to do with learning styles. She needs mastery, but perhaps he needs spiral? So my thoughts are, I'm wondering if the gentle spiral approach I hear of with CLE with be the ticket. He's a smart boy, learned to read early, but maybe math just isn't his thing. Just not sure where to go from here. He seems very visual. Would the CLE book appeal to him, or is there something else?
  23. Hi all, This is my first question though I've been reading all your terrific answers for a long time:001_smile: My son is 5 in grade 1. We are using CLE for math. It's great and we are happy with it. My only concern is that my son has trouble applying the concepts that he learns (outside of the book that is.) I was wondering if anybody has experience using MUS with CLE. Will it help to reinforce the concepts in CLE? Can I use just the DVD with the Manipulatives or do I need the workbooks too? I just want it as a supplement (I think my son will like the visual explanations.) Can I use it as like a spare time thing? and of course, is it worth it? or does anybody have any better ideas to supplement CLE? Anybody? Thanks
  24. After having a major crash burn with school this year we are pretty much starting over. We just switched to MFW ECC and it is a perfect fit for our family. I feel like we have some gaps in other areas though. I am thinking of switching a few of our subject over to CLE. I have read that CLE is solid in math. I am wondering if the same is true of LA and reading? If so, would this plan work? 1st grade CLE reading CLE LA when he is ready CLE math MFW ECC 3rd grade CLE reading CLE LA CLE math MFW ECC 5th grade CLE reading CLE LA CLE mathMFW ECC 7th grade Lightning lit Here is where I am stuck. She is using MUS pre algebra and doing fine. I have read that MFW has some gaps. Do I switch her to something else or ride it out? Is CLE LA good at the higher levels? We are using GWG and it does not stick with her. I think using CLE would simplify things but I don't want to burn them out on the same type of workbooks. I would love any feedback. You guys have been such a huge help to me already. :D
  25. I keep reading on both the younger boards and the higher boards that CLE is wonderful. What is so great about it? And why I haven't I heard about it until recently? and on the flip side... what's wrong with it? And for a point of perspective... we LIKE a Christian education and perspective so let's not knock the fact it isn't secular. Thanks from a mom who is tired from teaching EVERY subject EVERY day ALL day to 2 kids with a toddler under her feet. :)
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