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  1. Wondering what ages Greek for Children is for? Elementary or junior high? What would you use if you wanted to start learning Greek in 7th grade? (with only a background of Greek roots for vocabulary purposes) What's your favorite Greek curriculum? Do you like Greek for Children? Thanks!
  2. Since Discovery of Deduction by CAP is an intro to formal logic, has anyone used Traditional Logic 2 AFTER DoD? I haven't compared the ToC, yet; though I don't know if I could tell that way, so hopefully some ono can advise here! Secondly, if a family would like both the langage-based logic AND the Math-based logic in high school, would this seqence be sensible? First: Fallacy Det/Thinking Toolbox Then: AofA OR Introductory Logic by Nance Next: Intermediate Logic by Nance Next: Discovery of Deduction OR Traditional Logic 1 Next: Traditional Logic 2 (even if they used DoD) Next: Argument Builder OR Classical Rhetoric Thanks, Rachel
  3. Has anyone used CAP's Well-Ordered Language for grammar? If so, what did you like about it? What did you not like? How does it compare to FLL or MCT grammar? The CAP website says for grades 3 or 4 and up. My 3rd and 5th graders are finishing up MCT Town level. Would this be a good bridge before they begin MCT Voyage level?
  4. I met Christopher Perrin of Classical Academic Press at a Great Homeschool Convention several years ago. His talks were my favorite (vive la truth, beauty, goodness...and rest!). I felt sure that I must have been missing out by not using any CAP curriculum, so I decided to dive in... Modern Language (Shiny but remains untested) That day, I impulse bought their Spanish program, but didn't end up using it because I couldn't juggle three kids and two languages, so I persisted with teaching Memoria Press Latin and outsourced French (my second language) to Rosetta Stone, but progress was slow and enthusiasm waned (methodology was too haphazard), so we dropped it after a year. Then a few months back, I finally laid Latin to rest on the condition that we would resume study of a modern language. That's when I saw CAP's new French program and was, of course, smitten again. I determined we would start as soon as we wrapped up the first season of AG. Well, we passed the halfway mark of our school year a few weeks ago, and we still have a few weeks of AG to go, so I am hesitant to start something new towards the end of the school year. Writing (Great at first; now not so sure) Meanwhile, I discovered Writing & Rhetoric just as I was at the end of my rope with Writing With Ease. W&R turned out to be a much better fit for my daughter's affinity for both creativity and structure. Two years later, we're halfway through the fourth book and the compatibility seems to be wearing off. I am not sure if just this particular book (Chreia/Proverb) or the whole program, but as we're about to enter middle school, I am tempted to explore other options... Bible (Mixed) I started with the first book of God's Great Covenant: Old Testament this past fall. I used it with my 3rd and 5th graders, so it was a bit on the easy side for them, but I thought that might be better, since we had not formally studied the Bible before (on a consistent basis). We made it through the book of Genesis, but as we were meandering along, I had that nagging sense that there was bit too much busy work (trivia and such), while all the meat of it was in the teacher notes, which I found myself reading aloud to them, and it being a bit much to digest at once. I wished there was something in between the detailed notes for parents and the literal fill in the blank, matching, multiple choice worksheets. I suppose I was supposed to adapt the notes, but who has time for that? Then I discovered that when we switch from SOTW to MOH next year, we'll be covering a lot of OT history, so I decided to set aside GGC, with the possibility of bringing it back later in conjunction with MOH. Also, it had been taking a long time to read both the Bible story (summary of multiple Bible chapters) in the GGC as well as actual chapters from the Bible, and I didn't like how we were skipping a lot, though I understand it's not practical to have a curriculum that has you read the entire Bible, hence the Bible story/summary with the option to read the actual Bible. Since we dropped that, I have been reading the gospel of Luke to them, in small doses each day, and discussing it, after our opening prayer (during "Morning Time"). Curious about... I am currently tempted by their literature guides and logic books. That would be for my oldest (8th grade), the one who I taught Latin to from 2nd grade through the middle of this year (about a quarter of the way into Second Form Latin). She is excellent at Latin grammar and vocabulary (memory like a vault) but hates translations and the tedium of it all. I let her drop it when we picked up AG (she is completing all three seasons this year), because it seemed cruel and redundant to inflict all of that on her at once. She actually enjoys AG. Anyway, we do own Latin Alive, so there is a slim chance we will use that next year, should she balk at learning a modern language (which has been her attitude from day one of the logic stage other than the brief bout with Rosetta Stone), but when we initially tried it, it was actually too easy for her (I'm guessing it just starts out that way). ...What CAP curriculum has worked for you and what hasn't? The more details you can share, the better. Thanks!
  5. (The original thread from 2013-2014 can be found here.) Please share your child's compositions here! We are new to this program. My 10yo son just completed the first lesson and is LOVING it. Here is his own fable from lesson 1: The Mouse and the Bee A Mouse lay in the warmth of the sun, dozing near an old barn. A Bee was lazily busing around, and lighted on the tip of the Mouse's nose. The Mouse's eyes popped open. One moment, all the Bee saw here two round, beady eyes staring straight at him. The next moment, he was within the Mouse's grasp. No matter how much he writhed and twisted, he could neither free himself nor sting the Mouse. The Bee decided to try to reason with the gray furry giant. "What can you hope to gain from killing me? I have done nothing to you. Let me go, and someday I will repay you." The Mouse smirked. "You amuse me. I'm too tired to kill you, anyway." He loosened his grip on the Bee, and went back to sleep. Months passed. The leaves turned color, and the Mouse forgot all about his encounter with the Bee. The Bee, however, did not. He worked steadily in his hive, awaiting the day he would hold true to his promise to the Mouse. He got his chance. The Bee was buzzing around in his usual way, when he saw an Owl swoop past, uttering a loud and fearful "WHO-WHO!" as if he were stalking his prey. "WHO dares to enter my domain? WHO?" Curious, the Bee followed him. Soon he found what the Owl was looking for: He recognized the Mouse, who was lying asleep. Then the Bee saw what the Owl was doing. It was about to pounce. The Mouse woke up. The Bee expected him to scurry away, but he was too afraid. He stood there, riveted to the spot. Realizing that he had to act fast, the Bee rushed to the Owl and stung it. The Owl let out a terrible screech and started chasing the bee, mad with pain. The Bee flew around for a minute and then disappeared into a knothole. When the Owl had left, the Bee came out and landed next to the Mouse. "Are you still amused?" The Mouse shook his head. "Amazed would be more like it," he said.
  6. If you've used CAP Writing and Rhetoric, can you tell me what you liked about it? -did it help your student write better -did you feel you had to supplement with another program -do you feel it is complete -are you able to apply it to modern writing i.e. 5 paragraph essay We are currently using Classical Writing, we'll be in Chreia next year. I do think it is a thorough Progym program, however, the way it is laid out, I've had a hard time getting the rhythm and flow of it that our year looked "choppy." If there are already threads to this, please let me know!
  7. Trying to figure out an online writing class for my 5th grade child and considering MP or CAP. Does anyone have any experience/opinions with using these curriculums or classes? Also, considering their literature classes. Thoughts???? I have not heard much about CAP... Thanks...
  8. Howdy All, I'm thinking about purchasing Song School Latin for my rising 1st grader, and I have a few questions and would appreciate any feedback. My questions follow: How many minutes and days per week should we commit to this program? Do you like the program and why? Should I purchase the entire program or piecemeal it? If you don't like the program, would you recommend another? I've never taught Latin before, so the subject is new to me. Thank-you, ~h
  9. I've been waiting and waiting and waiting to take a look at Book 3 of CAP's Writing and Rhetoric series. The sample is up and the release date is April 22nd! :hurray: http://classicalacademicpress.com/writing-rhetoric-book-3-narrative-ii/#.Uzx1RMe63sU
  10. Can someone talk to me about a few writing programs? My oldest will officially start 3rd grade in July. He is an older kid for his grade with an October birthday. By end of May we will have finished FLL3, R&S English 2 (and started R&S English 3), R&S Spelling 2, and we've been working on writing using the WWE suggestions for narration, dictation and copywork through WWE 3. He has flown through all of this material this year without complication. Next year I plan to continue with R&S English 3 and start 4 when we get there, R&S Spelling 3, and FLL4 if there isn't much diagramming in R&S English 3 and 4 (I haven't gotten these books yet so I'm just not sure- if there is a good amount of diagramming we'll not do FLL4). I feel like we need a writing program next year as a guide as I teach him to write. I know how to write well as an adult, I'm just looking for a tool to use as I teach my son during the grammar and logic stages. 1. IEW- I'm having a hard time with the price tag on the DVDs to teach me how to teach my kid to write. Is it totally worth the price tag (especially since I have 2 more kids who would go through it?) 2. CAP's Writing and Rhetoric. I wish I could put my hands on a copy of this to see exactly how it would work in practice day to day. What I can see online looks really good. Anyone with personal experience that can talk to me about how exactly you use it in your daily work? 3. Continue with WWE 4 for 3rd grade and then move into a writing program 4. Other suggestions? I'm going to our local homeschool conference this weekend and hoping to talk with the IEW rep and hopefully put my hands on Writing and Rhetoric. Thank you in advance!
  11. I have been searching the forums and reading thread after thread over the last several days and I think I just need help with narrowing options for writing programs. My oldest will officially start 3rd grade in July and he is an older third grader (October birthday). He understands new concepts easily- we have not run into any serious problems with any new materials in anysubject, but he definitely has a step-by-step, engineering/math type mindset as he learns. He LOVES Saxon math if that helps you know what kind of learner he is. Since Kindergarten we have followed the WWE recommendations for narration, copywork and dictation using our science, history and literature readings as subject matter. At this point he easily "passes" the requirements for the end of level 3 WWE for these skills. He will also complete FLL 3 by May or so and we are orally working through the remainder of Rod and Staff English 2. We are using Rod and Staff Spelling 2 if that matters. For this year I want to focus on learning to write as we continue grammar and spelling, but this is where I'm stuck. What I'm looking for: 1. Something that lays out each writing tool or step one at a time. I don't feel like I need this as the teacher, but my son feels safe with materials like this. 2. Something that teaches style at some point in the series. Slow and/or incremental is totally fine as long as we get to style at some point. 3. Not creative writing. I'm not concerned with creative writing at all at this point. 4. I would prefer not to curriculum hop- so whatever we go with is what we are going with from now on unless it is vastly obvious that it is not working. 5. Something I can hopefully use with my 2 younger kids in the future, but this is not a sticking point unless the curriculum is particularly pricey. 6. Writing, reading and math are the three most important things in our homeschool for K-3rd grade. It is extremely important to me that my kids write well, but I also want to keep our learning sequence developmentally appropriate. Programs I'm looking at: IEW CAP's Writing and Rhetoric Introduction to composition - Memoria Press I've looked at MCT, but there are a lot of components to it and I don't really want to switch to their grammar and others when what we are already doing is working. I plan to finish R&S English 3 and then do at least part of 4 next year if not all of it, R&S spelling 3, and maybe FLL4 if R&S doesn't do very much diagramming- I'm able to look at copies of R&S English 3 and 4 this weekend to decide. Questions: 1. Is there a curriculum I'm missing that I should consider? 2. Will R&S English 3 and 4 provide enough writing and I'm going into overkill by adding an official writing program? We mostly work though R&S orally- he writes answers usually 1x per week and he writes the tests, and we'll still stay with oral work 2-3 days per week next year. 3. About IEW- I'm having a hard time with the price tag attached to the DVDs that will teach me to teach my son. I know how to write well as an adult, I'm just looking for a tool to use as I teach my son in grammar stage. Is the program really worth it especially if I'm going to have 3 kids going through it eventually? 4. Writing and Rhetoric looks really good- I just wish I could put my hands on a copy. Everyone local to me uses IEW. I'm hoping there is a copy in one of the booths at the homeschool conference this weekend. Thank you for your help!
  12. My son has an opportunity to join CAP. We were planning on ROTC in college, so I thought, why not? I'd love to hear your pros and cons. How much parent involvement? What should I expect? Any warnings? Praises? I have no clue about it (as you can see by my ??), can we chat?
  13. I haven't seen this anywhere yet. (Sorry if everyone already knows.) Classical Academic Press is releasing Song School Latin 2 on Thursday, March 28th. With code: ssl2newsletter on Thursday, March 28th ONLY, you can get 20% off. Student edition w/CD here. Teacher's edition here.
  14. Where would you go for writing? We've already completed Art of Argument and Discovery of Deduction, so I'm looking for writhing/rhetoric suggestions. Could you safely move into some of the WTM suggestions? Thanks.
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