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  1. All along I've been considering doing the typical preparation for college highschool sciences. My plan has been to use BJU Science DVD's for highschool since we live overseas and it's pretty impossible for me to do the lab sciences here at home. 9th--Physical Science which is considered an Integrated Chemistry and Physics course according to the boards here 10th--Biology 11th--Chemistry 12th--Probably Physics or allowing her to do something more along her interest levels, like an advanced Anatomy class or doing some community college science course But lately I've been looking at all the other great science courses out there and longing for her to have one year to do something that interests her, either Earth Science/Astronomy or a History of Science course with the Tiner books that Master Books has put together. Am I shooting her in the foot by doing that? She plans to go into some sort of graphic design, but does enjoy science and math. So she may decide to Veterinary Technician or something along those lines instead. Of course, she still has time to change her mind. Or maybe it's just me not wanting her to grow up...
  2. I'm researching science plans for my dd who will be a 7th grader next year. Can anyone chime in on Apologia's General Science or BJU's Life Science?
  3. I am considering this for science for next year for some of my dc. I would love to know what your experience has been and which level you used. I am definitely intrigued by the samples on their website. It looks so interesting. Is it difficult to find the answers to questions in their text? Thx so much!
  4. My ds14 is doing BJU's 8th grade science this year. This has honestly been the first year of him doing a formal science program like this. And he is struggling...A LOT. I don't really feel like he is gaining anything in this program. He has failed every test, even though I have seen him study hard, and make note cards and stuff for himself to help with studying. He's really not even trying now, though. I have even done the reading with him and talked about it as we went along. I'm not sure what to do with him for science now. I want something that he can mostly do on his own. Something that he will enjoy, and be able to take something away from it. As well as, something affordable and enough for him as he enters high school. So can you give me any help and/or suggestions? I would really appreciate it.
  5. Looking at various science options. First time I've thought about BJU Science. If you've stopped using this, can you tell me why? If you are using this.... I have 6 & 9yo ds. I have read posts that suggest using seperate science levels, but really would like to do science together. Any further comments on this? Biggest question is - what do I actually need to get? Student and the teacher text looks useful. What about the activity guide? Do you purchase addt'l lab materials or collect what you have from home? How do YOU implement it - how often, how long, what sort of notebook or lab sheets do the kids keep. Tell me more, please. Thanks!
  6. I need to purchase a kit for the BJU chemistry course. I know homescience tools has a kit for BJU, but they also have the microchem kit for less. I've also seen some other alternatives. Which one do I want?
  7. I'm still debating a good substitute for Apologia General and Apologia Physical. How about BJU Physical 9th done over 2 years in 7th and 8th?
  8. So would Apologia be considered "dumbed down"? I ask because my son took the SATII test after taking a class with that text and going through a prep book and was really unprepared. He did fabulous in the class with 100% on almost all assignments. I think I have read here that others using Apologia had the same experience, and the other two students who took the test from my son's class were also unprepared (and they studied soooooo much more than him, with multiple prep books). I really don't know if it was the text or the teacher, though I have my suspicions about the teacher. :glare: I am wondering if we should stick with Apologia or move on to something else for Chemistry.
  9. Sorry guys but I am starting a new thread. I really need a list of rigorous science curriculam (secular or christian -just no apologia please!!)...Bear with me please... :D If it is not Christian I plan to subsitute with creation based young earth materail so secular is fine....no problem with it. I know several have mentioned BJU in other threads. If I were to do BJU what grade level would be best suited?? Could you list what you think is rigourous and why? I really need to figure this out by July. This is for rising 8th grader but we are thinking about having him do 5 yrs of high school instead of 4 so with that in mind....could you list the rigorous curriculam for middle school years for 7th or 8th grader?? Thank you so much! I will make sure this is the last science thread I start. I know it has been a redundant subject thread here. ;) Holly
  10. I think we have settled on using BJU Science 7 with my 7th grader for next year. But, I would love to hear from others who have used it. We have never used a textbook for much of anything around here and I'm wondering if this is a difficult course to do at home. My son is advanced in his knowledge of Science, especially Biology, but he isn't strong on writing, though we are always working on that. I guess he's probably "average" in that regard but definately advanced in his understanding of Science concepts. He LOVES Biology and thinks he may want to pursue a Science degree in college. Is this a course that is "doable" at home? Is it a 5 day a week course? I thought I'd get a kit through Home Science Tools that has most of the supplies and also the course DVD's. Are there any samples of the DVDs anywhere? Thanks for any info.!!
  11. Do you need just the BJU student text to read along the Dive schedule? Is there an inexpensive answer key for the BJU chapter review questions? I really don't want to buy the entire homschool kit just for review questions!
  12. My ds learns best when he has someone actually TEACHING him, in addition to having a textbook. Can anyone compare/contrast these? I like the idea of DIVE, that I can use any textbook (or none) with the classes. But I've heard that there isn't a lot of explanation???????? Is that true? I like how much explanation there is with BJU, and ds is used to it, but yikes the price LOL. I'm not familiar with RWT much at all...how does it compare with either of these?
  13. I did do a board search because I know this info. is buried here somewhere... I just don't have another hour to spend looking for it. Options: I've seen that some BJU Science users are doing something other than BJU 6th gr. science in 6th grade (say, Life Sci. for ex.; it was a topical title rather than a grade level title). Are there options available other than the straight grade level texts, or is this due to bumping them ahead? What are all the options for BJU Science in 6th (other than "Science 6")? How do you get to that point (what preparatory courses are helpful)? Where to start: I've also seen around this site comments that a child would need to have been doing BJU Science at least since grade __ in order to handle it in 7th or 8th. IOW, jumping into it at that point would be hard on most students. True? At what grade would a child need to begin BJU science in order to do it for Jr. High? Also: I'll be hsing 3rd & 5th grades this fall. How difficult would it be to have my 3rd grader tag along w/ my 5th grader if we did the older's level of BJU Science? They're close buddies & really enjoy doing what subjects they can together. Thanks!
  14. I see that they have a subject kit for each level, and they also have a list of extra resources. I am thinking of going with level 6 for my upcoming 6th grader. If you use or have used BJU science, can you tell me what is required besides the subject kit to complete the course. We have the butterfly garden that is listed on the resource list. Also I don't see a lab kit listed anywhere. Do I need to purchase one of those? Thanks!!
  15. My almost 11 ds is currently using BJU Science 5 DVD's for 5th grade (only started it in Dec.). I notice that he likes to rely on what he already knows rather than 'study' the textbook. He just 'flunked' (got 20/30 right) on the chapter test on Measuring Matter because he really doesn't have much of an accumulated knowledge bank for this topic. He had to know the difference between solute, solvent, solution, etc. (which I don't wouldn't know either, without studying). He has widely differing grades based on what he already knows about science. I don't think he really reads a science textbook correctly, but rather just skims it... even though he says he does. He has a natural science bent, but just doesn't think he has to really work at it. Is it okay if wait until I can say he is an official middle schooler (ie. for 6th grade) and buckle down at that time with his science textbook study skills, or should I be doing that now? I know I will get a lot of resistance from him as he has been desiring to rebel on certain assignments already. He gets easily stressed out if he thinks he has too much on his academic plate. I've got to add that we have also started using some MFW Science (just last month) but I don't double up science classes on any given day. Occasionally he will ask to do extra BJU Science, though, because he wants to blog afterwards (we still have BJU Science 4 online streaming in for his sister until Dec.). The blogging has turned out to be an excellent positive motivator for him to get his science done, BTW. I've noticed that Oh Elizabeth recommends outlining the science textbook (as does WTM) and I wondered when I should be starting that with my ds. Does BJU include onlining tasks with their DVD science instruction in middle school science? Thanks, Brenda
  16. We are using BJU Life Science with DVDs in 7th grade. I love them. I really love the way the entire lesson plans are organized for the teacher. It IS expensive, but I have NO problems with the teacher side of it. My dd, however, isn't crazy about this science. One disadvantage for us has been the time it takes to watch the DVD and then do the study/assignment that comes afterwards. Ok, with that background, I'm researching high school science. I have a few questions about BJU high school science: Are the other sciences (physical, bio, chem, physics) as interesting and engaging as life science has been? Are they AP classes or just prep for AP? If you use the DVDs, are they as well-organized as our Life Science is? How math intensive are they? How time intensive are they? (student and teacher) Do they have labs? I would NEVER attempt to teach these classes without the DVD. I would consider continuing BJU science into high school and not change curriculum if dd would go along with this. I don't think she would. What other science is as well organized as BJU and rigorous enough that it would prep for someone interested in becoming a vet? I need to be able to put science on and let dd just do it. I can monitor, of course, but I don't want to have to TEACH.
  17. Is it just me, or do you sometimes wonder if science is "dumbed down" for all of us homeschool parents who have trouble understanding it? I think homeschoolers have a reputation for being really bright in the English/literature area but severely lacking in the sciences. I bought RS4K Chemistry this year thinking it would be a great program. My husband took one look at the book and said, "I could teach this whole book to ds in about a week." Granted, I was only expecting it to last 1/2 a semester, but boy that was an expensive program to be so "meatless"!! Has anyone found a science program for the middle grade that you feel is competitve with what the public schools are using?
  18. I was looking at the Home Science Tools website. In the supplies list, it says that the Teacher's manual isn't necessary? Is this true? If not, tell me why I need it :) Also, would you buy their supplies kit, the investigations DVD (they do not sell this), or both? Thanks
  19. I'm wondering-- can an advanced 8th grader handle (and enjoy) BJU's 9th grade Physical science (with the videos)?? In a nutshell, here's my deal: Ds (12) will finish 6th grade this spring. Next year he'll start Algebra (we're wrapping up Singapore 6 this spring) and junior high science to prepare him for highschool level work (ideally, I'd like him to take Biology in 9th, Chem. in 19th, and Physics in 11th so that he has his 12th grade year for advanced science if he's so inclined). Thus far, we've done very little outling and very little science w/ a structured program (lots of videos, lots of library books, but no textbooks or significant structure). He's had science this year and last via co-op, but he hasn't retained a ton. This year he's taking Bio (using The Rainbow text), but I'm not thrilled with the class or his retention. Originally I was leaning, therefore, towards BJU's Life Science for 7th grade and their Space/earth for 8th. Now, though, I'm questioning the need to take physical science before the more complex sciences (in which case, I'd like him to do that in 8th grade... BEFORE high school). So.... what do I do? Can a non-outlining newbie-to-BJU handle their space/earth in 7th and their physical science in 8th (to then move on to Bio in 9th)? Or should I look more seriously at the Life Science course (since his bio this year has been sketchy at best) for 7th-- to help him ease into/adjust to a junior high level work load? And then what? Space/ Earth w/ NO physical science at all? OR Physical science (in 8th) either via BJU or another text (perhaps Apologia if you think BJU's will be to streneuous). He's a very bright boy and he does very well with his studies, but the outlining required of BJU will be very new to us (as well as the work load required for that subject)-- I'm a bit concerned about entering high school with his/my sanity still in tact!! So... please advise!! I really want him to take some BJU science, and I want him to learn from Mrs. Vick if possible (I've heard such great things!). I'm just really struggling with what to do over the next 2 years to best prepare him for high school. And thanks :)
  20. I'm searching the boards and online reviews and it looks like Lifepacs are out! I'm looking for a long term plan for my science loving going into 3rd and 5th graders. They both want careers in medicine. Bob Jones pros: -I could keep them at their own grade level -Easy to schedule and includes tests etc. -Kits available -Variety of topics each year for my science loving kids -High school is college science major prep and AP prep -Dive cds for high school Bob jones cons: -lots of Teacher prep -not portable like workbooks What do you think???
  21. If you feel at all uncertain about how to outline, outline your BJU Science book. OhElizabeth, I am so glad you clued me in on this. I can't imagine a resource that outlines more beautifully. I can imagine that the ease with which it outlines would give confidence to a student who is unsure of the process.
  22. I have been looking at BJU science because Apologia is just not working well for my dd's. They are doing Apologia Physical Science this year (8th & 9th grades). I'm thinking that I will have my older dd (will be 10th grade) move on with BJU Biology, but I don't think younger dd (will be 9th grade) will be ready for it. She is not a math/science person AT ALL! I'm thinking we should back up and maybe do BJU Life Science or Earth & Space Science, then move on to biology. She does not have a strong background in science so either one would, I'm sure, have a bunch of new information for her. I'm just not sure which one to go with. Is one better than the other? If you had to choose, which one would it be? and why?
  23. If we have never done a formal science curriculum & I wanted to use BJU, would I still start my child off in the level they would be in according to their age/grade? FWIW, my children are 7 & 9. I'd love to do something with them both. I was considering using BJU Grade 3 with them (they'll be in grades 2 & 4). Is something like this doable with BJU, or should I look for another curriculum that isn't grade specific. Thanks for your thoughts. Susan
  24. Does anyone know the best place to purchase all of the lab equipment for this science? Is there a pre-made lab kit? Can I use one kit with more that one student? Does anyone have a favorite microscope that won't blow my budget? I am facilitating this science for a group this coming year, I would like to do all of the experiments without having to buy one of everything for everyone. Any suggestions? Thanks!
  25. I do not prefer Apologia for elementary Science. I have used BJU Science with my oldest DD since 1st grade (she is now 6th). I have always planned to switch to Apologia beginning in 7th grade, but now I am second guessing myself. Any thoughts on this? I would love to hear any opinions for the upper level Apologia. Thanks for the input. :)
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