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  1. Ds16 is in ps. He has been in honors classes since he went back to school in 9th grade, but he hasn't taken any AP classes. This year, his Honors Algebra II/Precalculus class has been really tough and time consuming. Even with my help, he only has a C+ average. He has A's and B's in his other classes. He signed up for 4 AP classes next year- Calculus AB, English, US History and Environmental Science. I hate to see him drop out of the honors level math, but he is going to switch to regular Calculus. I don't see how he would have time for AP Calculus with the other APs. My question is- how many APs are too many in one year? My son says that AP Environmental Science has a reputation for being easy. Do his remaining APs seem reasonable? We didn't have APs when I was in school, so I'm just not sure. I want him to be challenged, but not completely overwhelmed.
  2. In my reading this week I've come across mention of AP several times. I had only a vague memory from high school that AP classes were what the more studious kids did. At the time I was not interested in anything more than getting out of school and getting a job. I had no aspirations. All that to say I know nothing more than I read at the college board website this morning. So what does an AP course look like to a homeschooler? Can a typical homeschool mom teach an AP course? Or is it something that the student would have to go to the local high school to take a class? If a student homeschools an AP class at home taught by mom can the transcript reflect an AP designation for that course? How many courses should the average bright kid attempt in a year? What if the student takes an AP course and passes the exam in 9th grade but has no idea where he wants to go to college? How does the passing grade for the course get to the college the student decides/is accepted at? Is there anything else I'm obviously overlooking?
  3. On another thread we were discussing having our AP syllabus approved by the college board, and a thought came to mind. Last year my daughter and her friends developed a website designed to support other homeschooling teens who were taking AP's or other college level courses. It is meant to support each other by sharing information (books, videos, etc), asking questions and supporting each other through the process. I've asked her if they would have a section for Moms so that we could also connect. Here is the write up that they put together, the website can be found at the end of the write up -- Hope many of the AP teens will join! Announcing STUDI (Students Throughly Understanding Difficult Ideas), a new, online resource designed for homeschoolers by homeschoolers. We created STUDI when, as homeschoolers, we realized we lacked a network to reach out and provide each other with support and a method to share our ideas, knowledge, and resources when taking advanced and AP® courses. Advanced tests are important to homeschoolers. A good score on a SAT II or AP® exam, for example, validates academic performance in the eyes of a college admissions officer. It’s very useful to prepare thoroughly for them, but this is easier said than done. If you can’t find good study materials, or have questions that nobody you know can answer, studying becomes a miserable chore. Thus, STUDI was born, providing homeschoolers with the ability to network together and create a worldwide community. STUDI provides: Lists of user-rated educational materials, including: Textbooks, online and hard copy Videos, online or DVD Courses, online and correspondence Support Forums, where students can both ask questions and answer them Soon to come weekly tips! A thriving community to participate in the forums Take a look at STUDI (https://sites.google.com/site/apstudi/home) today to see what you can discover! Whether you are taking an online AP® course, or self studying, STUDI can be a network filled with resources and a community of support for you.
  4. I see the 4 samples on the Human Geography site. Can someone walk me through the process. I see all the checklists, but it seems so easy just to cut and paste from the samples to create my own. Would they approve that? Isn't is cheating or something? How do you go about this? Using the samples or come up with something original?:001_smile:\ PA homeschoolers doesn't allow 9th graders anymore for this course. Which other AP classes would you attempt on your own? I was thinking of this one, AP Art History and AP Music Theory (after 10 years of piano lessons w/theory). Anything else? She wants to use PA Homeschoolers for everything else.
  5. I've been reading many of the dual credit vs. AP class threads and I'm glad for the variety of opinions and experience. I know how to do dual credit. I've done it with one daughter. However, I don't know how AP works or where a homeschooled student would take those classes. Can anyone enlighten me?
  6. Hi All, Dd is in 10th grade and doing AP Bio (thru' cc & self-studying). Next year as a junior was planning to take Chemistry either at cc or AP Chem with PAH. Then in her senior year, physics (again either at cc or AP Physics B with PAH). I had a few questions - 1) Lately I've been reading a few posts that suggest doing Physics BEFORE Chem? What do you all think? Should dd do phys in 11th, chem in 12th? 2) Which AP is "easier"? (AP Chem or AP Physics B)? Which one has less math involved? (math is not my dd's strong suit! She will be taking Calc in 11th, but she is not too confident in math) 3) Which AP test is considered easier (I guess that would mean the class is easier as well)? Thank you SO much for your help! Sangita dd(16), dd(14), dd(10), ds(8)
  7. Where would I find AP classes for my ds? Are all of them for high school level, or are there some for middle school? Thanks Hot Lava Mama
  8. Just wanted to relate the trouble we had getting the actual award.... Even though my ds took his exams outside the US and had listed a university outside the US to receive the results, they neither sent the results, nor at first gave the diploma, and he had met all the criteria in terms of grades. Now he does have the diploma (in Dec), but I had to call up and get them to go back into the records and look at the sheet he had filled out, to finally get it. Things that probably didn't help: -that the university where he wanted the results sent was not on their list, so he had to write in the address. Lots of foreign schools do not have an official code with AP. - maybe that he wasn't yet in 12th grade? Thankfully we were able to bring the results to the school ourselves. But what if someone was relying on them sending the results? Just noting this in case someone else ends up not getting the award they deserve.... Joan
  9. My son starts 10th grade this fall...to date we have not undertaken AP designated courses...this fall I am probably submitting my writing course for AP credit, and next year he will take AP lit...this fall he is taking Physics having completed Biology and Chemistry. I do have an AP Biology text..if we teach this...can I claim it is an AP course? Have others done this? Thanks, trying to avoid CC courses or online courses...Distance and scheduling issues..
  10. Does anyone have experience with doing AP prep Environmental Science (meaning prep for the test, with or without having College Board certify the syllabus as being ok to brand as AP)? I have rising 7th and 8th graders. They love science and are high level readers. My plan for the upcoming year was to do a year of various earth science studies (geology, fossils, weather, possibly astronomy). I was going to put something together using PH Science Explorers, Smithsonian Science 101, Pearson Interactive Science and specialist books that we have on hand. My general plan for high school is to do biology, chemistry, physics and probably one other science. They are about midway through Saxon Algebra 1/2 and will move on to algebra mid fall. But the AP Environmental Science course on the UCCP site caught my eye. I notice that several of the topics covered are similar to topics that I was planning for anyway (for example geology and weather) So: Is Environmental Science a course worth doing? Is it a good class if it's done for AP, but otherwise filler? (My kids hope to qualify for admission to a service academy or an upper level school under ROTC.) Does anyone have experience with the AP test for Environmental Science? Does anyone have experience with doing AP tests for students who are not yet high schoolers? (Pitfalls? Administrative details I would need to be aware of?) And if anyone has comments about the UC Open Course College Prep classes I'd appreciate insights. Specifically about how well they prepped for the AP test and how you did other assessments to base a grade on.
  11. I guess I am asking do you choose AP classes in areas that your child enjoys or in areas they want to be done with as soon as possible. Background, my oldest stopped homeschooling to attend public school. We are lucky that this school expects kids to do well and to take AP classes. The kids are competitive. Being smart is expected. The kids compare PSAT/SAT scores. The teacher's gradebooks are online, and the kids check their grades during class. All that is said to show the scool is a good fit for my "schooly, smart" kid. This child is registering for junior year, and I have realized we have a different way at looking at AP classes. So, I wanted to hear others' opinions. My child has not taken any AP classes. As a junior, my child will take AP Chem, AP Lang, AP Computer Science, and a pre-AP Spanish III. This school system has a different way of doing math, and I'm not really sure what will be covered in honors junior math. I do know as a senior they take AP Calculus BC. Anyway, this child has never liked history, even as a young homeschooler using SOTW. So, when registering for this school as a freshman, my child took all honors classes except history. Then, my child realized that the other kids in the non-honors class weren't as motivated. This year this child took honors world history, and the classmate fit has been better. The teacher for first semester actually got my child interested in history for the first time. My child worked hard and made an A. This semester my child has a different teacher and has a high A simply from listening in class and reading over the class outline before the test. While my child liked how the first teacher made the information interesting, the logical, ordered way of teaching of the second teacher is more appreciated by my child. My child doesn't want to take AP US History as a junior. Child's rationale: I don't want to work hard in history; I want to spend my time/energy of the classes I enjoy." On the other hand, I can argue the other side, "Taking the AP class (and doing well on the test) will mean the child won't have to worry about history in college." Having said the school wants the kids to take AP classes, my child's history teacher hasn't said anything about what to take next year. I wonder if they assume this group of kids doesn't want AP history, since they didn't take AP world history as sophmores. Since that required taking a special pre-AP history class as freshmen, I would think there might be kids in honors world history that would be interested in AP history as juniors. The state college my child will attend requires a 4 to award credit. However, credit isn't given in major courses, The college also awards the same amount of English credit for high verbal SAT scores as it does for AP exams. So, I think history might be the only AP test that would actually translate into additional college credit for this child. How do you pick which AP classes your child will take. We are in a unique situation since we don't have to pay for the course or the tests. I'm curious how others look at this situation. Thanks
  12. My ds12 (will be 13 long before May) choose Java as an elective this year (because I required an elective and provided a list of things they could choose from) and has really run with it. I had not planned the course as AP level, but he is already past what I planned for him and is asking if he can take the AP exam in the spring. I told him I thought so if he wanted to, as it's commonly offered. But then I was just wondering if maybe his age would be a problem? Does anyone have any experience with that? How far in advance do you have to decide absolutely and make arrangements with a school to proctor? I was thinking three months since exam needs to be ordered, but that is an exam fairly commonly given around here. I am not worried about his being able to do well if he decides to because his dad is a computer guy and helps him resolve whatever programming issues he has, and ds has looked over the released exam and thinks he can do it by May. The logistics are starting to give me a headache, since I just realized that he also plans to compete at Nationals this year for gymnastics and I'm I think those are late spring, possibly May... This is my punishment for wanting them to find interests beyond gaming in their free time! :)
  13. Let me preface by saying that I did try to run a search on this topic but it seemed to be taking longer than I had planned. If someone wants to point me towards some older threads on the subject, I'd be much obliged! :001_smile: That said, I'm thinking ahead for our oldest. The thread on HSing IB has me curious as to how one officially homeschools AP?
  14. Does anyone know if it will hurt dd at all if she begins taking AP exams (and/or CLEP) exams as early as her "freshman" year of high school? I know that the local high school has some AP classes that Freshman can take, so I imagine that this must be "done". Right? TIA
  15. My daughter is in public school this year. She was in a Pre AP class and not doing well. To be honest, I think it was a horrible teacher. He seemed to have the idea that giving bad grades out means he's a good teacher. I have a BA in writing and I used to teach middle school English. I personally looked over all her papers before they were handed in and he still was giving her a 75. He told the class that no one ever gets an A from him and that a 75 is generally the highest grade he gives out. I had her removed from his class and placed with a teacher whose goal is to actually teach. SO...my question is that if my daughter does not take an AP class for a certain subject, can she still take the AP exam? I don't know if this is a prerequisite or not.
  16. I just finished reviewing some new AP resources that I ordered.....TM's from Duke TIP. http://www.tip.duke.edu/resources/ap_manuals/index.html They are definitely not intended for someone who is looking for something open/go/answers included type materials. However, they are absolutely chock-full of open-ended questions, research suggestions, debate/analysis scenarios, etc. The American history one is fantastic. It has charts for them to fill in for everything from why certain areas were settled by certain groups to the various regional perspectives of the Missouri Compromise. The American history one has weekly assignments laid out for 3 different history texts (none of which I am using). However, the general layout is easily convertible to other texts. For example, week 11: the assignment is chpt 22 in the given text. But it also gives a list of documents to be examine, relevant court cases, Constitutional issues, Presidential decisions, discussion questions, research topics, writing activities, graph activities (included), chart activities (included), sequence activity (timeline included), recommended resources, geography activities, etc. (Answers are not included. However there are multiple choice exams with answers) The other one I ordered was English Composition. It is not anywhere as extensive as the American history; however, it has excellent teaching suggestions, essay/literature questions, sample essays, etc. I just stumbled upon the website one day when researching possible classes for my ds. I decided to order a couple and see what they were. I am glad I did. My dd is not taking either of these courses with the intent of taking the AP exam in the spring, but I will be implementing a lot of the suggestions for improving her researching/rhetorical/analytical skills. I am used to putting together my own classes, but I would never of thought of incorporating the majority of what the history manual includes. I am really excited about what this is going to add to our discussions. For anyone who believes they could teach AP courses on their own but doesn't want to have to design their own materials......these might be your answer. ;)
  17. I recently read where if you submitted your course syllabus, books etc to college board, they could approve your class as an honors class. I can't remember if I read that on this forum or somewhere else and now I can't find it. Has anyone done this and how did you go about it?
  18. If it has been marketed as an AP preparation course, can you designate it that way on a transcript (with or without having to take the actual exam)?
  19. Have any of you who have students capable of doing AP work purposefully decided to not go down that path? Why or why not? I find myself wanting to push back both against the extra stress and having my curriculum dictated to such a great extent. If your student is not likely to want to go to an Ivy or other uber-competitive school, is it still imperative? The one exception I am thinking I should make is Calculus for my engineering minded son, but that is a long way off.
  20. I was browsing a community college website and reading about credit transfers from this CC to other universities. Imbedded somewhere was this information about medical and dental schools: Applicants must complete the prescribed coursework listed in the table below. A grade of at least C must be earned in each of the required courses. The only exception is Advanced Placement credit which can be used to meet the prescribed coursework. • Applicants are encouraged to complete their prerequisite coursework with letter grades rather than using a pass/fail option. • Advanced placement credit is accepted only if the college/university granting the credit lists the specific course(s) and number of units granted per course on an official transcript. Lump-sum credit is NOT accepted. I emailed the contact person and asked if I were correct to assume that a student couldn't have CLEP credit for the prescribed coursework. She said my assumption was correct. So apparently if you want to go dental or medical school in Texas, you can't take CLEP for the prescribed coursework and you have to be sure that the AP credits are listed as specific courses, not lump sum credit. It's amazing what you learn without even trying!
  21. Because of money we will have to be very selective on what courses son will take....I am looking at PA homeschoolers class. From what I remember he can't take the course until he is a junior. So in the meantime, I want him to prepare for an AP exam this year. Do we select the ones that will go for his major in college or just something to confirm what he is learning at home?? He is looking at the English/lit AP exam. However not sure what books he needs to read in regards to that. He is also thinking about AP Biology however we used Apologia Biology courses (both the Biology and the Anatomy/Physiology). I think he will need to get a secular text book to read over this year and perhaps the teaching company's Biology DVD. We got the human body one already. I pasted the requirements for HONORS diploma down below. It is required he takes an AP course and the exam. Thanks! Holly Here is the requirement for our Indiana Core 40 HONORS program: • Complete one of the following: A. Complete AP courses (4 credits) and corresponding AP exams B. Complete IB courses (4 credits) and corresponding IB exams C. Earn a combined score of 1200 or higher on the SAT critical reading and mathematics D. Score a 26 or higher composite on the ACT E. Complete dual high school/college credit courses from an accredited postsecondary institution (6 transferable college credits) F. Complete a combination of an AP course (2 credits and corresponding exam) or an IB Standard Level course (2 credits and corresponding exam) and dual high school/college credit course(s) from an accredited postsecondary institution (3 transferable college credits)
  22. For Chemistry, and a lot of my other courses, I want to call them AP, or at least Honors. I don't just 'want' to. I do plan on doing the work to prove it. I am getting Zuhmdahl for Chemistry, but I also got the AP testing book for Chemistry and plan on using the questions and tests for my course. It won't be the spine, but the supplement. Can I at least call the course honors if I do enough work for it to be considered honors? I am assuming we aren't allowed to call it Pre-AP or AP?
  23. I am trying to figure this all out lol.. thanks! Christina
  24. Does anyone know if one can take an AP test without doing a course first? And how would the AP testing agency know one had DONE a course first? This old mom is wondering about boning up on some American hst and/or other subjects and taking some AP exams so she doesnt have to take a semester long class for subjects she has TAUGHT for goodness sakes...
  25. My son qualified for Pre-AP courses in high school next year. I definitely want him in AP Math and English. Do you think it would be too much to do AP (or Pre-AP) across the board? When I was in high school, we just had honors classes- are the AP classes pretty much the same? I know they work toward preparing for the test, but is it that much harder?
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