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  1. Time Left: 9 days and 19 hours

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    Ancient History and Literature--2007 edition. Very Good condition. Includes all but Old Testament Challenge, Daniel study, Timeline Figures and History Timeline book. (Purpose Driven Life is included but not pictured.) Please message directly with questions. $230/media mail shipping + insurance included.


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  2. I am starting with the lit list in the WTM, but I would like to balance/lighten it with other less heady but still relevant/worthwhile book selections, e.g. young adult historical fiction. Our history spines will be The History of Ancient World and Mystery of History. I would appreciate seeing other people's reading lists who are correlating literature with history for this time period. I am open to other curriculum suggestions as well. I am a last minute planner, so this is just my rough draft. Thanks!
  3. We are starting our second week in Wayfarers Ancients. It’s way too soon to give a proper review, but we are enjoying it so much that I just had to say something. J ELTL – I had considered this before and wish I had started it then. My dd and I are both happy with this approach of using literature for English. Dd says she likes doing dictation, which surprised me. She’s paying attention…recently she informed me that she did not agree with one part of the author’s condensed summary. J (I am still using BJU English some; dd and I are both writing papers. She is writing about Rachel Carson; I am writing about Charles Dickens. She likes when we do things together like that, which is one of many reasons why I really want to incorporate more BraveWriter into our plan next year.) We are enjoying the science. Dd loves McHenry’s Botany and always likes the Tiner books. Quark Chronicles looks good. The Hakim book should be excellent. Various books are listed as optional for science and history, and we will read some of those too. History is going well. Ancient Egypt is not our favorite, but the books are engaging. I love that she includes real books for geography. We have not done the mapping yet. Wayfarers has great literature choices. One suggested read-aloud right now is The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Since we read that recently, I am reading aloud Wizard of Oz (and other eclectic personal choices like Jan Karon’s books and Wind in the Willows). Music; Timeline; Book of Centuries; Art; Narration – I love the visual reminder to include these things. We are enjoying Vivaldi and dd is narrating. Since we have been dealing with things like sick cats (they are doing much better since the $$$ vet visit!), we have not started the art program. I may start doing it on the weekend. A daily Bible reading and some book choices relating to Bible are listed. We are doing the Bible reading (currently Genesis) and one of the books. Yes, I will tweak. I tweak, therefore I am. J I have used Heart of Dakota twice (Bigger and Preparing) and we liked a lot of it. But I really like that the Wayfarers layout has more white space (to write notes and substitutions) and less wordiness. With Wayfarers, I have finally decided to WRITE IN THE GUIDES! In pen! I no longer see the guide as something to give away or sell later; I now see it as a record of all the great reading and learning we are doing together. In the bottom right-hand corner of each two-page spread, I am jotting down the date we completed that day. I love that you can buy one-third (one term) of the year at a time. It keeps the guides a great size and lets you try Wayfarers for about $32. I think the guides are well-priced and completely worth it. One big reason I chose Wayfarers was the daily plan. I have many ideas, lists, etc. but have trouble pulling those together into a coherent plan. Speaking of tweaking and trying to do too much…We may join friends who are starting TOG Ancients this fall. J There are several reasons; one big one is that dd is a fairly social only child and we NEED to see our hs friends regularly. If we do TOG with friends, I would either drop the History part of Wayfarers or merge it together (there is some overlap). The books in Wayfarers are a great mix of older and newer, Christian and secular. I found a lot of the books at Half-Price. Congratulations to Kathy Jo DeVore for this amazing achievement!
  4. I'm working my way through TWTM to make a plan for my oldest next year. I've only made it through about 15% of the book, and I've run into a conundrum. I'm overwhelmed with the Ancients and how to divide that time period into manageable units/chunks to ensure that we get through all the material, but not at a pace that's so grueling that we burn out after the first few weeks. My mind starts swimming when I see all the suggested resources for the Ancients. How do y'all divide up the reading/history material for your 1st year classically educating? Will it get easier over time? I do really well with an outline/time frame, but creating one from the start (even given the resources) is difficult for me. Any advice?
  5. We will be doing Ancients this year and I'm looking for more great adaptations for our read-alouds. I have a son going into K and a daughter going into 3rd. I've begun collecting things from from the WTM list and anything I can find from our local library. We just read through the 3 book Gilgamesh series by Ludmilla Zeman and my kids loved it. We are also going to read Geraldine McCaughrean's longer adaptation. Any incredible picture book adaptations of the Iliad, Aeneid and the Odyssey? What are your favorites? Least-favorites? Thanks!
  6. This high school thing ...is new to me and having difficulty making sure that I have enough covered and to determine where to include certain books. :( I have searched intensely on past threads so I hate to duplicate but my list isn't quite the same as everyone else. So for 9th grade my son is taking a Biblical Archaeology class for History which is considered a one credit course along with a few other reads including: Unwrapping the Pharaohs, Unveiling the Kings of Israel, The Archaeology Book. However, on top of that I have this list of books we are reading along side and trying to determine whether they should be in Bible OT Survey (1/2 or 1 credit) or under Literature (1 credit course) so here it goes... Bible reads for OT survey credit for the year: Genesis- Malachi Genesis Finding Our Roots Adam and His Kin Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers study guides Is this enough for a one credit course? Other Biblical reads: Radical, Case for a Creator, and other self help books (too many various ones to mention) Ancient Literature and others included: Golden Goblet- read Cat of Bubastes- read Epic of Gilgamesh- read Holy War - Bunyan- read Codes of Hammurabi- read Screwtape Letters- read Illiad- (7 wks) beginning Odyssey (4 wks) Last Days of Socrates (2 wks) Plutarch's Lives (2 wks) Aeneid - Virgil (3 wks) Have scheduled to complete these in 33 weeks and that leaves me with only about 4 weeks to decide on the following below or could change the ones above that we haven't read yet. Now I am debating on the next ones and trying to figure out which should be done first if we have time from the list above. The Histories (Herodotus), Medea (Euripides), The Republic (Plato), Aristophanes (Comedies), The Gift of the Jews, or Till We Have Faces Probably only have time for one and wanted to read it in the correct order so am needing to decide before finishing the Odyssey. Along with the Literature he is taking Grammar with Abeka 12. Other classes taking this year: Rhetoric (online teacher CAP said it was definitely a 1 credit course) Ancient Literature (see above) enough for 1 credit Biblical Archaeology (see above) 1 credit Algebra II (Derekowens) 1 credit Apologia Chemistry (along with other reads) 1 credit Latin III (online Potters) 1 credit German I (online self paced) 1 credit Bible (OT survey see above) 1/2 or 1 credit? Does this sound good? Also in helps with the Ancient Lit list am looking for ones that do not have too much horrible themes such as in Oedipus and Sophocles. Thanks so much for your help!!!!
  7. I just gathered materials for a friend on the Ancients and thought I'd post it here as well. Feel free to add to the list any materials that helped you teach this time period. These are in no particular order. Living Long Ago Houses and Homes Usborne book of World History or Kingfisher History of Encyclopedia Peoples of the World Usborne Time Traveler Tut's Mummy Archaeologists Dig for Clues Great Wall of China Castle (D.M) Cathedral (D. M) Seeker of Knowledge Greek News DK Tales of the Dead Ancient Greece DK Ancient Greece Highlights Top Secret Guide to egypt Stories In Stone Cave People How to dig a hole to the other side of the world Pyramid by David Macaulay Mrs Frizzles Adventures - Ancient Egypt Usborne Internet Linked Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt Magic School House - A book about archaeology The 5000 Year old Puzzle Gilgamesh the King Pepi and the Secret Names The Great Pyramid The Nile River (rookie books) You Wouldn't Want to be a Pyramid Builder Possible Read Alouds: The Door in the Wall, Twenty One Balloons, The Egypt Game, Tales of Ancient Egypt, Little Pear
  8. Thought those of you studying the ancients, and particularly ancient Egypt, might be interested! BBC: New timeline for origin of ancient Egypt Full and free pdf text of article in Proceedings of the Royal Society A.
  9. In my planning I stumbled across this history portal site, which looks to be quite a find; I thought I'd toss it out and tag it so y'all can find it when you are planning, too! Best of History Websites. "Best of History Web Sites has been recommended by The Chronicle of Higher Education, The National Council for the Social Studies, The New York Public Library, the BBC, Princeton University, -- and many others."
  10. Hello, I have SOTW and MOH for Ancients and wanted to use them both. Biblioplan (upper middle grades 6-8) includes both of these for spines and I like the Christian approach. The cost for the set is more than I was planning on. My ds wouldn't like the coloring book and we have a timeline that could be used. My question for those of you who have used Biblioplan is which books are the most important if you purchased them separately ? Family Guide Companion Discussion guide Cool History Cool History Classic? Hands-on Maps This is for one student, my youngest. Thanks for your help.
  11. The registration for new students to Lukeion online courses for fall 2013 - spring 2014 opens up tomorrow. Current students have been able to register for the last couple weeks, so some classes may already be down to only a few spots.
  12. My five-year old found this app on his Kindle FreeTime profile and adores it. It's a great condensed version of The Odyssey for kids. It's not dumbed down, by any means. The illustrations are wonderful and it has a "read to me" option as well as a normal "read it myself" choice. He also downloaded Edgar Allen Poe's "The Raven" and enjoyed it, too. In searching Amazon, I found there's a pretty big selection and wide variety: fairy tales, nonfiction, classics, etc. If you have Kindle FreeTime, these are all included in your subscription. Otherwise, they're a little pricey at $3.99 each. http://www.amazon.co...node=2350149011
  13. Hi ladies, Anybody here doing MFW Ancients or MFW for the the later high school years or have prior experience with that? (Crystal, you don't need to answer~don't worry!) We are all set on doing SCM Mods 1-3 with the 1st-7th graders, but I'm torn about whether to put oldest daughter (starting 9th), in MFW for the ancients or have her stay with the younger ones doing the SCM Ancient mods.... My thought was that if she did MFW Ancients we would all still be on the same time period and there would still be good family discussions. She is very bright and loves to write. I don’t want to overload her and stress her out, yet want to make sure she is doing college prep study in case she ends up going that route. We supplement SCM with AO as well. Please share your thoughts and wisdom! Thank you and blessings, JFG
  14. Anyone know if History of the Ancient World is available on audio, or if it will become available? It looks like Middle Ages is, and Ancients comes first, darn it. Please, I'm begging you, we have to make use of car time, and one can only listen to so much Latin vocabulary at a time. I sent this question via the company contact form as well, but I'm impatient. Whoever answers first gets cyber cookies and a million imaginary bonus points.
  15. I know, I know...I just need to include as many of you as possible:tongue_smilie: My son turned 15 last month. He is a very high functioning Aspie. Most people might just find him quirky. He has come a long way in the past few years. I am so proud of him. I don't want to squash that progress ya know! I would love to see more writing or documentation in regards to History. He is in grade 9 and using HOAW. For writing he was doing Oak Meadow 9 English. It was way too much. He didn't understand it and could not figure out the organization of it. TWTM ways always seem to work with him. He is still a logic kid for a lot of things. He enjoys and understands HOAW. I just started him on Writing with Skill. I had originally planned on him just answering the four questions per section or doing a notebook page from History Scribe. I have slacked in my department and you can see why if you look over some of my previous posts. It's been quite the year. But, I am not one to give up. Any thoughts on the amount of documentation in regards to our personal situation? Do you have something you want to share? Do you see some obstacle? Do you want to tell me, he will be ok?
  16. Can we get a list made up? I know "just SOTW" is an option too, but I'm thinking here of programs that a sane person wouldn't supplement. EDITED -- Here's a list with all of what we've added so far so newcomers to the thread can scan this for any they might think to add. Bringing Up Learners http://bringinguplearners.com/mosaic-myths-maps-and-marvels/ WinterPromise http://www.winterpromise.com/ancient_world.html History Odyssey http://www.pandiapress.com/?page_id=103#level1 A World of Adventure: Units 1 - 3 http://learning-adventures.org/Volume_One/volume_one.html SOTW with AG http://www.welltrainedmind.com/the-story-of-the-world-curriculumactivity-guide-i/ EpiKardia http://www.epikardia.com/catalog_daily_lesson_plans.html BiblioPlan http://www.biblioplan.net/2011/04/introduction-to-year-one.html'>http://www.biblioplan.net/2011/04/introduction-to-year-one.html'>http://www.biblioplan.net/2011/04/introduction-to-year-one.html'>http://www.biblioplan.net/2011/04/introduction-to-year-one.html My Father's World: Creation to the Greeks http://www.biblioplan.net/2011/04/introduction-to-year-one.html Heart of Wisdom Can someone provide a link? Their page was confusing. Ancient Civilizations and the Bible by Waring http://dianawaring.com/store/history-products/curriculum/ancient-civilizations-and-the-bible Mystery of History http://www.themysteryofhistory.info/volumeI.shtml Veritas Press http://www.veritaspress.com/products.asp?dept=1029 Tapestry of Grace Year one http://www.tapestryofgrace.com/year1/ Guest Hollow Ancient World History http://www.guesthollow.com/homeschool/history/ancient/books.html History Portfolio & Junior http://www.homeschooljourney.com/alaunch.html Beautiful Feets Ancients http://www.bfbooks.com/Ancient-History-Study-Guide Classical House of Learning Ancients http://www.classicalhouseoflearning.com/grammar.htm TruthQuest Beginnings/OT/Ancient Egypt/Ancient Greece & Rome http://www.truthquesthistory.com/store/products.php?categoryParentName=Books&categoryName=Ancient+Egypt%2FAncient+Greece&itemId=38 Heart of Dakota Creation to Christ http://www.heartofdakota.com/hearts-for-him.php Sonlight Core B http://www.sonlight.com/core-b.html and Sonlight Core G http://www.sonlight.com/core-g.html Greenleaf Press http://www.greenleafpress.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=56&zenid=e6425bb6b2e31869aa91bc5f607afd2e Konos History of the World Year One http://www.konos.com/www/HOW1.html
  17. Just ran across a National Geographic documentary about the Great Pyramid - which is perfect, since we just read about that today in SOTW. The really cool thing is that it's on Hulu, in its entirety, so it's free! :D
  18. I have heard SWB and some others mention the thought that the ancients year of great books/history is more difficult in reading level and that the modern (year 4 of rotation) contains more disturbing ideas. I would love to hear from anyone who has been through this and what your experiences or thoughts are. Do you prefer doing them in order or do you think a student would benefit more from saving the ancients until 12th grade? I have an upcoming 8th grader and am trying to figure out what our plan will be for high school history/great books. I am considering combining both AO and WTM. I very much like aspects of both. If I use the AO history timing, ancients are studied in year 12. I have to figure out what we are going to cover this year to be prepared for 9-12th. Thanks, Katie
  19. I will be homeschooling again this fall after a 5 yr absence. I have a 7th grade DS, 4th grade DS and 2nd grade DS. I've already started the Ancients with them but just found out that there's a co-op starting in my support group this fall that will be studying the medieval period. I'm considering moving VERY quickly through the Ancients (just presenting an overview, really) so we can join the co-op in the fall. Would the benefits of group study, interaction, crafts, etc. outweigh not studying the Ancients in greater detail?:glare:
  20. hi I was wondering if anyone has some helpful advice of what books are easiest to read, understand from the year 9 reading list in WTM. we need to pick at least 8. this is for ds 14. my son ISN'T a book mad person, in fact he only reads his assigned book every day. he never reads just for pleasure. . We will be starting year 9 in January which is the start of the school year here in Australia. the books I have tentatively picked so far are Genesis Epic of Gilgamesh Homer, Iliad and Odyssey Daniel Corinthians Josephus Plutarch I thought maybe some Aristotle, or Herodotus.:confused: not real sure all advice is most welcome:001_smile: thank you
  21. What would you do differently, or the same? Also- what would you have done to prepare for the year? Any organization ideas, things you would have gotten done before the year started?
  22. It is easy to read Susan's paragraph stating that when a student has finished a work, she should do a completed piece of writing and put it in her notebook. It is not easy for me as a parent/teacher to help the student(s) to do this. Yes, I know we can google "writing assignments" and look at Spark Notes, but that doesn't give a sense of unity to the year's assignments. So, here is my feeble offering. maybe some can glean from this, maybe others can add in some more suggestions. Epic of Gilgamesh = Compare/contrast essay with Biblical flood account Tales from Ancient Egypt - finish the unfinished (incomplete) story of the doomed prince Aesop's fable - Progym: fable - expand/contract Iliad - what is a hero OR what is excellence - essay by definition Odyssey - compare/contrast with "O Brother" compare/contrast on good guest/bad guest Herodotus - write an 'ethnography' on some group to which student belongs - essay by description Thucydides - praise - Progym: encomium Electra - ? Republic - compare/contrast views of justice (getting kind of tired of compare/contrast essays) Poetics - evaluate movie according to Poetics standards OR a movie review Cicero "On Friendship" - essay on friendship - essay by definition "Odes" - Poetry explication, also could do a progym:chreia on "seize the day" perhaps Aeneid - describe a piece of art or a scene - Progym: ekphrasis On the Incarnation - ? Is this well-balanced? too heavy on compare/contrast? We are also reading Plutarch's "life of Julius Caesar" and then Shakespeare's play. We are reading a historical fiction set in the days of the early church; I am not requiring a piece of writing for that.
  23. I know that we will not have much time to spend on our readings with Thucydides, so I am hoping that some of you might have some suggestions for excerpts to read. Has anyone just read certain parts and found that still beneficial? Thanks!
  24. favorite things to supplement? I have the AG and we are doing what is appropriate for first grade. Any other cool ad ons or ideas you used and loved?
  25. So. My dd is finally into Ancient Egypt in SOTW 1 and I want to begin mem. work with her. (Surely her memory is good for something besides Veggie-Tale songs, odd made-up words, and Dr. Seuss so many times a day!) So, how do I do it? I've got the KF Encyclopedia. Do we just memorize the names in the lists or should we stick the dates in there with them, too? Are the dynasties important? What do you do? TIA! Mama Anna
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