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  1. We've tried All About Spelling and are currently doing Spelling Workout. Is there a spelling program out there that is between the two? I like AAS, because it teaches the rules. I like Spelling Workout because of the way each day is laid out; crossword puzzle, fill in the blank, etc. My son is currently working his way (very quickly) through SW B. I'm looking for next year, 3rd grade. Thank you in advance for your replies :)
  2. Hello All! We are homeschooling for this first time this year. My oldest is in Kindergarten so I have taken the last few months to wing it. I thought unschooling would be a good fit for us since I work from home and we are heavily involved in other activities but what I am discovering is 1) I am not a plan-aheader nor a good record keeper despite my good intentions and 2) I keep myself up at night wondering if what I am teaching is on target with what my oldest should be learning. After reading Cathy Duffy's book, I think I am starting to get interested in KONOS and I didn't know if anyone has any experience with that. I love the idea of being able to teach multiple kids with different ages. I understand that as a whole, you will still need to pick a math which we are leaning towards Math-U-See in addition to reading and spelling programs which we are leaning towards All About Reading and All About Spelling respectively. Any advice or insights anyone has would be greatly appreciated! We don't really know anyone that homeschools so we feel a bit out of our element :) THANKS!!!!
  3. I'm finishing up AAS3 with dd8 very soon and was planning on starting Phonetic Zoo, Level A. My reasoning for PZ is that it's auditory (what dd needs) and independent (what I need want). I purchased PZ and now I'm doubting. The words look hard, even though IEW and everybody else says that completion of AAS3 prepares a student for starting PZ. Although she is on the young side - middle of 2nd grade vs. 3rd grade as IEW recommends. We've really enjoyed our time with AAS, and dd was sad to learn that we won't be continuing anymore. I know that's not a reason to stick with AAS...she very well could love PZ even more... Could I complete AAS4 with her and move on after that? Is that overkill? I don't want to accelerate too fast but also want her to start having some independence. Thoughts? Anybody out there complete AAS4 and then start PZ?
  4. We may be getting back into AAS with ds. He longs to use it again instead of LOE....though I thought he was really enjoying it. Anyway, I was playing around with making a workbook for AAS level 3, note that we have already gone through 1-2 and part of 3, and we will most likely start level 3 over so that he can jump in level 4 for August. Here are all the AAS Levels anyone is interested.....Nothing fancy....probably some errors....but thought it may be useful to someone other than us. Level 1 Workbook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzH_Xr_bjr-yc1M1SG1aNWI4aW8/edit?usp=sharing Level 2 Workbook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzH_Xr_bjr-yQlhaZjNnS01kS3c/edit?usp=sharing Level 3 Workbook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzH_Xr_bjr-yaXNSMzlYbmIzdHM/edit?usp=sharing Level 4 Workbook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzH_Xr_bjr-yVzl0Qm9nMUc3bTQ/edit?usp=sharing Level 1-2 Quiz Printouts Level 3-4 Quiz Printouts If you have any questions let me know!
  5. I bought a used copy of AAS Level 3, but it is missing the Silent E book. Can someone describe the book so I can just make her one? Thanks
  6. I have an incoming K5'er who's going nuts with writing everything and using lots of invented spelling. I was planning to wait until 1st grade to start spelling, and was planning on using Spelling Workout, but I think she is forcing my hand here and I'm looking at starting spelling in K instead. (We have been doing K4 with phonics, handwriting, and math.) I'm trying to figure out whether I ought to plan on using All About Spelling, which seems like it might be more appropriate for using with a K'er, or Spelling Workout, which was my initial plan. I really think that AAS would be the better curriculum for her learning style at this point (visual and interactive), but concerned about it matching up with the rest of our plans down the road (not to mention that I don't WANT to have to spend extra hands-on time on spelling...but that is just a little selfish consideration). ;) Some specific questions: 1. Has anyone used Spelling Workout with a K'er? How was that experience? We will be about halfway through OPGTR by the time we start K. 2. How much of the repetition in Spelling Workout do you find to be useful repetition as opposed to busy work? At this stage and with her still-kind-of-short attention span, I don't want to load her up with busy work that takes time and bores her. 3. I LOVE the way AAS teaches the rules of spelling in such a comprehensive and clear way. Is Spelling Workout as effective at really teaching the rules, or is it more like a "memorize a list of words and then spell them" curriculum? (I have looked inside a few of the workbooks, but have had a hard time getting a feel for the curriculum.) 4. How does All About Spelling transition into SWB's recommendations for vocabulary in middle school? I know that Spelling Workout has Latin and Greek roots toward the end of elementary/into sixth grade and really sets the student up for Vocabulary from Classical Roots in 7th and 8th grade. Does AAS have any Latin or Greek content at a similar stage? Or would I need to supplement with the 4/5/6 levels of Vocab from Classical Roots if I'm using AAS, as SWB recommends for those using Spelling Power? ETA: 5. What would you do? Thank you!!!!
  7. Can someone list for me (unless it is a whole bunch of them!) the suffixes taught in All About Spelling 3? I am considering purchasing a used set, but the suffix tiles aren't included, so I wanted to see about making my own tiles, or buying some separately, depending on how many there would be. Thanks!
  8. Ok I'm using AAR with my son and need a phonogram app as I didn't buy the tiles because I had intended to use the Sound Literacy App. I stumbled onto the Logic of English Phonogram app and I'm curious if anyone might be able to shed some light on how different they are. Using AAR/AAS I need to be able to pull down and use specific phonogram tiles. I just don't know if the LOE app will allow me enough flexibility. Anyone use the LOE app? I'd love some feedback on exactly how it operates.
  9. From the preview I saw on the All About Learning website, it seems that I could just make, out of index cards, the necessary cards for my dd. In each of the lessons I read through, it looks like it tells you which cards to use and what letters/words are on each one. I have phonics and letter tiles already. I can create her a progress chart and certificate. Is there something major I'd be missing? Trying to find a more cost effective way to use All About Spelling, since I've pretty much used up my school budget.
  10. I'm looking ahead for spelling curriculum for next year. I want All About Spelling, but I know it's going to start off REALLY slow, and I wonder if it would be overkill. In hindsight, I should have used it in K this year, but I was trying to keep K pretty simple and not overly long. I thought 1st was the time to start formal spelling. I began teaching my daughter to read at 4 because she was ready. It was a hodge podge of what I had and what I could borrow because I wasn't confident what would work best for her and I didn't want to spend a lot of money. She learned letter sounds and began blending them into words and I also introduced phonograms, making my own cards based on a list of the 72 Orton phonograms I found. (I remember learning phonics this way, so it makes sense to me.) This year, Kindergarten, I wanted something more systematic and something she could work on semi-independently (I also have 2 yr old twins). So I started her in Explode the Code book 3. I wasn't thrilled with it, because it only teaches one sound of any phonogram at a time, but I figured since I was still supplementing with my flashcards it would be ok. I also had a copy of Phonics Pathways, and I have used that for read-aloud phonics practice. It also makes her slow down and read clearly and distinctly before she reads aloud to me. So we have finished book 5 in ETC and I have book 6. We'll start it next week. We have about 20 pages left in PP but we've definitely covered everything commonly seen in her reading level (2nd grade-ish). But now I don't know what to do about spelling! We seem too far ahead for AAS, but I don't know what else to look at. I want something rule based, that teaches all sounds of phonograms. The reason I'm afraid we are too far ahead is just how well she's done with ETC. I was just intending it for teaching phonics, mainly reading, but she usually does the final page (test of 7 of the words from the lesson) without looking, after she's done the activities with them for a few days. I just don't know what she's retained, and if she's missing out on the rules part of it. They only focus on one sound of a phonogram at a time, so for instance, the -ey words we just did (monkey, hockey, honey, money, key, etc) are all "ee" sounds, no "ay" or discussion of the fact it has another sound. She knows it does from my flashcards, that's all. I have heard you can use Phonics Pathways to teach spelling, but it sounds like a lot of planning and work :( And I got a used copy of Spelling Power, but it's not as rule-based as it sounded. The lists seem more random collections of words that have the same sound. I do like how thorough it is, covering the 5000 most frequently used words, and I could use it. I just feel like I'd be floundering making up reasons why words are spelled the way they are, when my daughter asked about words, and I'd be stuck trying to think of more examples of that kind of word. Also, I dictated the sentences AAS recommends to see what her placement would be, from here: http://www.allaboutlearningpress.com/which-spelling-level-should-we-start-with She had no trouble with it. The Level 1 sample lesson definitely looks easy. Has anybody tried AAS and found it wasn't a good fit? Why? Has anybody started at Level 1, even though you thought your child was past it, and how has that gone? I really want this system, it makes so much sense to me, but I don't know anyone in real life who is using it. And it's a big investment. Thanks in advance for any input! Jennifer
  11. I just read a post from someone stating that HTTS is a workbook version of AAS. I looked for reviews and only found a couple on amazon. Do you know where I can find other reviews? If you have used both programs, can you compare and contrast them? I like the price of HTTS but I like the reviews of AAS. I am torn. If you have used or are using HTTS, can you tell me the strengths and weaknesses of the program? Who do you think this would work for? Who would this not work for? :bigear:
  12. Hi, I am looking for a phonics/pre-reading curriculum for my ds 4.5 for the fall. Can someone compare the Phonics Pathways to All About Reading? Also when do you move up to the Reading Pathways and All About Spelling? Thanks from a newbie :-) Marisa
  13. Has anyone started this with an older child? My daughter has never really struggled in spelling. I am wanting to buy this program to do with my 5th grader since he struggles in spelling. (We have been doing k12 and it has not been working.) My question is...where should I start with a 7th grader that is a natural speller? Should I really start at level 1? I am planning on it with my 5th grader since he struggles, but not sure what to do with my 7th grader.
  14. I have look into AAS and there are lots of blogs out there supporting the use but the company has a payment program for people who share their experience about it. I was just wondering if anyone had a difference of opinion? I just want to be sure I do my research. I have wasted my fair share on not-that-great curriculum. Thank for your input.
  15. So sorry if this is a dumb question, but do each of my children need a set of divider cards for EACH level?! Or, is one set of divider cards all they need for the entire series?! For some reason I am having a mental block on this - probably because I have never SEEN someone else's spelling card box and we are just starting out. :001_smile: Thank you!
  16. I have another thread going right now regarding possible dyslexia and VPD in my 9 year old son who has a Dx (so far) of SPD. Our main concern with him is his reading. He is very proficient in math, although the reading issues are beginning to cause some problems in the area of math. He is 2E. He has an appointment at a developmental optometrist on 1/6 -- next Thursday (!! Yay!!), so I'm not sure if I should even be asking this question yet or just wait until we have results from that appointment. I decided I should ask because I most likely will continue to work on his reading / phonics at home even if it does turn out that he has something going on visually and needs therapy... so either way, I'll end up asking these questions sooner or later. :tongue_smilie: Just for background, we have tried ReadingEggs, HeadSprout, and OPGtTR... all were unsuccesful. Then, I ordered All About Spelling for my daughter. After I received this program and was reading through it, I realized that it would probably be a good fit to teach my son phonics. So I scoured the internet to find out if you can teach phonics with AAS. Lo and behold... YES! Yay! So I tried to figure that out and my son has since exploded into knowing many of the phonemes and can now read CVC words. He can also read a myriad of other words, but I really don't see any rhyme to his reason. We are also using FLL orally so we can get in some grammar work even though he's not yet reading. To go back a little bit, my son has always been 'late'. With everything. He crawled late, got his first tooth late, walked late. But every time he was ready to do something, you knew he was really ready and he would take off with it. I can tell that he is really ready to read. I am fairly certain that we are not using AAS in the correct manner for a phonics program. We are taking it really slow and we are on step 4 or 5. I'll make up some spelling tests for him using word families and he does awesome. But I don't feel like we can go any further is AAS because it's a lot of spelling rules and I don't think he's there yet. I could be wrong, though. ;) Can anyone offer me anymore advice on how to use this (with specific steps) as a phonics program? (Since AAR isn't coming out for a little while.) I am also looking at printing him off some I am Sam books. I think I like those better than the Dancing Bears. I have also been thinking about the Phonics Page Lessons but haven't really been able to look at the lessons. We also have this set of Reading Rods, but haven't used it yet. Can someone please help me figure out how to incorporate all of these things to really get him going with reading? Is it all too much? Should I keep going further in AAS? Can you just tell me what to do? :tongue_smilie: I feel somewhat lost at this point. :001_unsure:
  17. Just looking for some more info about this program.....can't find much. I have daughter who is more of auditory learner and a sight reader, I am wondering if this program would be a good fit for her or not. It certainly looks like a fantastic method. Would like to hear why folks liked it or hated it. :)
  18. I know there have been many threads comparing these I couldn't find one that would help me decide. I bought them both because I didn't know which one would fit my son. He is 7 and knows all his individual sounds and can read but needs to move on to the next level we never used an official phonics program. He is very hyper and has very short attention span. He needs a lot of review. After looking at PR I'm not sure if I should use this. Does anybody have any thoughts or experience with a child that has short attention?? We are also using FLL and WWE which we love! If I use PR I wouldn't need to use FLL and WWE. I was thinking of using both AAS and PR but not sure how I would do this. Do any of you do this and if so how? Thank you!
  19. I've been using PR1 with my 6yo. She is in week 20. It took me awhile, but I finally like the program. I like it well enough that I want to switch my 8yo (3rd grade) from AAS3, Voyages in English 3, and handwriting to PR. I have a feeling it will streamline things for us and give a more cohesive LA program. Is this how to do it? 1. Teach her the rule tunes and phonograms in PR1 and work through the Building Codes. Her spelling with AAS has been good, so I'm not sure we need to go through all the spelling lists. Likewise, her reading is good and I don't see a need for her to do the readers. 2. Start level 2. Here is where I could use the input of you more experienced moms. Should I have my 6yo and 8yo do level 2 together? Or will my older dd move more quickly? I'm not sure yet about using The Latin Road, but I would like to be done with PR by 5th grade or earlier (2012 - 2013 for my 8yo). Thoughts? :)
  20. I have been doing some research into All About Spelling and I saw a quote about the program that sent up a red flag (for me). The quote said there is "no need for a separate phonics curriculum" with All About Spelling. Does this mean that a child learns to read (and spell) with All About Spelling? I have a five year old who is almost completely finished with phonics instruction and is reading on a second grade level. She is only now, starting to write words on her own and seems to needs instruction in building words in print. She spells words wrong all the time... We used Abeka's Handbook for Reading, a very traditional phonics program. She knows her spelling rules (or at least those included in that book). She can say them outloud from memory, but she has never had to apply those rules to words she writes, only words she reads... And, actually, up till now, she wasn't been doing alot of writing anyway. Her handwriting lessons are still just single letters and how to form them. I saw no reason to keep her from reading just because she wasn't ready to write. But, she is now starting to write notes and letters on her own and I am noticing that she is spelling many words wrong. Will All About Spelling help my daughter take the phonics sounds and rules she already knows and apply them to words? Should we start All About Spelling at a more advanced level? Will it feel like we are re-learning phonics all over again? I know it's "the best spelling program," but I don't want to reteach phonics with a bent toward spelling. That seems unnecessary. But, is this what I have to do to teach my daughter how to spell without rote memorization tactics? I thought my daughter was just ready to start applying the rules she knows to spelling, maybe learning a few rules she doesn't know... I guess my question is "Will All About Spelling be a good fit for my child, since she already "knows" her sounds and rules and just hasn't had practice applying them yet?" Feedback, please!!! I guess I am not looking for "the best spelling program" anymore, I just one that will fit my daughter's needs right now. It could still be All About Spelling... It just sounds like that program may feel like I am reteaching phonics with a focus on using those sounds to spell instead of read. Is this right? Is this necessary? Is there a program to better fit my daughter's needs? Thanks!
  21. I have tried Spelling Workout and it was not a good match for us. Now, I'm using Sequential Spelling with my 11yo DS...but, I still don't feel as though he is learning to spell. I'd be interested in hearing any reviews for "All About Spelling." Thanks! ~Holly
  22. Agonising (surprise!!) over what to choose for next year. Current decision is whether to go with AAS or SWO for my first grader next year. Any advice or suggestions really appreciated.... Thanks
  23. My 7 yo is just nearing the end of AAS level 1. He hated the tiles so we quit using them and just do everything on a small whiteboard. It has worked great so far! Has anyone else made AAS work w/o the tiles? Will I run into trouble in the other levels? He really loves AAS, just not the tiles!
  24. Does anyone use this program or have you used it before and what did you think about it? I am considering using it for two of my dc who are kinesthetic learners, both of them have special needs and require a lot of hands-on lessons for all subjects. They will be in K and 1st grade this year. Is this appropriate for them and tell me how it works and what materials I need... Thanks!
  25. I did a search for my last comments about HTTS so that I could admit to everyone that I found AAS very cheap used and bought it. :D I have no doubts that it is based on HTTS, but it has some incremental steps that HTTS is missing, probably pulled from an OG reading program. DD was balking at sounding out and learning phonograms and basically anything phonetic about spelling. Having AAS is worth it for me because I am absolutely confident that I am teaching it the correct way, and that I am not making her do something she isn't ready for, or missing any steps. I need that confidence to stand up to DDs bad attitude. I will probably switch back to HTTS after this first level of AAS because then I can implement their methods with HTTS, plus the beginning steps are already taken care of. I have been recommending HTTS instead of AAS all over. I have egg on my face. :tongue_smilie:
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