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  1. I could use a set of "experienced" eyes to look at my plans for 9th grade English and help me make a decision. Its our first year, I'm still learning and I am not sure if I'm doing this right. I'll give a little background on how I got to this current plan: I originally had planned for her to take English Honors thru FLVS. I liked the idea of her having a teacher to answer to, not me =) BUT... After looking at their syllabus I realized it was going to be WAY too much reading for her on top of Ancient History readings. She is interested in studying Ancient History so we are going to have her do MOH vol1 and possibly vol 2 with a more in depth study on Egypt and Greek Mythology. She has expressed interest in workbook type curriculum's also, SOOOO I am thinking of getting CLE's English 1. (I bought CLE LA 400 for my 4th grader and she peeked through and is pretty happy with it.) CLE English is just 1/2 credit (grammar, essay & speech). They recommend taking their Literature units for the other 1/2 credit but its not mandatory and I'm not interested. The other 1/2 credit for English is listed as 10th grade. I also am VERY interested in getting her Ancient Literature Supplements with Grammar & Composition by MFW, it looks like a perfect fit with MOH. And they said it can stand alone as it is their spine for the English part of MFW. So looking at the scope & sequence of both above choices I have a dilemma, I have no idea how much is too much or if its not enough. If anyone has viewed the above curriculums: should I get CLE English 1, 9th and 10 grade AND the Ancient Lit supplement? Or should I have her just do CLE English 1 9th grade only along with the Ancient Lit supplement? Or is the Ancient Lit supplement enough on its own? Advice would be very much appreciated, I'm stumped on this one!!
  2. It looks like DD REALLY wants to change plans and do MFW WHL before AHL. Don't want to go into the details, but for now it appears we may just need to put off the Ancients. DD is really excited about beginning 9th with WHL. Is there any problem with doing this out of order and either reversing AHL and WHL, or putting off AHL to an even later high school year? She is a very bright girl with strong comprehension and writing skills. :) Thanks for any and all help! JFG
  3. I did a lot of research for high school around this time last year, even though high school was quite far off for ds. I really liked the look of MFW high school program and was encouraged by all the positive reviews. Of course, now I'm second guessing my decision and am wondering if it really is the direction that I want to go for ds, who will be starting 9th grade in September. This is my first one to homeschool through high school, and doing it in a foreign country makes it doubly intimidating. There is absolutely no one here who is using a traditional American high school program, and ds doesn't want to go through the British system with GCSEs, etc. Anyway, all that to say, I'd love to hear how it is working for your family. If it isn't working, why? And if you love it, what is it about the program that makes it so great? Also, what type of student do you have? Ds does what he's assigned without too much complaint, but can be lazy and sloppy with his work. He's not a super-motivated, enthusiastic student. I'd hate to get something that wasn't a good fit for him. Do you think MFW would work for him? Finally, how much time does it take with you? Ds prefers to work independently. It's my understanding that the student and parent are supposed to have a conference at the end of each week, but other than that it's independent. Is this correct?
  4. Dh and I have finally determined on a history plan for our dd(s). We are going to do a hybrid of mfw, omnibus, and WTM. If one is good, three must be better.:D. I know the risk of overkill which I will avoid like the plague. Omnibus is mainly going to be a reference for me. Likely my kiddos will rarely see it, if ever. So now that you know I have truly lost my mind I have a question. Everything I read says not to do mfw ahl with someone younger than 14. Dd will be 13. Should I really not do it with her? When I look at Omnibus and how vp says it is geared toward 7th graders then I compare it with mfw, I can't see why it shouldn't be done earlier. What says the hive?
  5. HELP!!! :confused: I have MFW AHL and I just can not stop second guessing my choice. I bought this new and its past the time frame to return. Not sure if I want to return this though. UGH. Is this really a good choice??? I just can not stop wondering if this is how we want to go. :confused: :confused: :confused:
  6. Hello, I have been trying to decide whether I should spend the $ to buy MFW for my dd for next year or if I should pull the resources together myself. I am able to do a lot of planning/scheduling on my own, but I am a little more hesitant about doing it with high school. Also, I will have 4 other children in grades 8, 5, 2 and K next year, so that is a consideration. Also, a friend of mine is going to let me borrow her Biblioplan Family Guide and Companion for next year, reducing the cost of History and Literature for me. These are the 2 options am I considering: Either using MFW for Bible, History and Literature/Writing or using Starr Meade's book, The Most Important Thing You'll Ever Study for Bible, Biblioplan for History, Literature and Geography, and Essentials in Writing or Epi Kardia's Essay course. Does MFW AHL really bring things together so well that it is not worth it for me to go to all the work of doing my own thing? When I look at the samples it looks like mostly just a grid with assignments plus a few notes. I do that now on my own. Sell me on why MFW AHL is better than me pulling together the resources myself. Pretty please??:001_smile: Thanks, RuthAnn
  7. Sorry, I am really pondering, and trying to figure out what to do with my son next year. He is finishing up writeshop 2 and a little Jump In thrown in for good measure. :) I am planning on starting him in AHL, even though he will be in 10th grade. Is there enough writing and literary analysis included over the high school years, or do I need to supplement? Is the writing/ English course considered college prep? I was debating adding in Teaching the Classics, and Windows to the World, or something. Highschool makes me nervous. I only have 3 years left. :001_huh: :eek: Do I need to add or do anything else besides, math, science, and electives??
  8. I'm trying to figure out a plan for high school next year. (How did it get here so quickly? :eek:) I really like the looks of MFW AHL but it looks like a LOT--lot of $$ and lot of work. Of course, it is high school and it's going to be a lot of work, but I'm wondering if it would be simpler to just go with Notgrass and use their recommendations with Bible/Literature and call it good? Which would you say is more challenging, AHL or Notgrass on its own? Is MFW doable for a child that doesn't *love* school and has to be pushed a bit?
  9. I'm planning to order MFW AHL. Before I place the order, I'm trying to make sure all of my questions are answered first. I called MFW and had a wonderful conversation with a rep who was most helpful. Now, I hope you can help me with one question since you all have experience using their high school program. I have to turn in grades to my homeschool covering: both a number and a letter grade for all high school subjects. Please tell me how I can get a grade for English, history, and Bible from MFW AHL. The rep mentioned that there are instructions that will help me grade assignments. It states in the catalog that there are no formal tests for history, Bible, or literature. Parents are supposed to assign grades based on informal discussions... this is so subjective. How to I quantify a grade for this? I realize there are daily written questions and vocabulary quizzes in the lit. I would think these would be easy enough to grade. Will I have trouble coming up with grades to report? Thanks!
  10. I'm facing a delimma that I've asked about before. I hope you all won't mind if I ask about this again as the time is quickly approaching for me to start buying our first year of high school curriculua. (And MFW is raising their prices March 1!) Dd in 8th is taking a WONDERFUL Comp I class locally. It involves reading novels, writing literature journals (lit. analysis), and studying mechanics and grammar. Essays are also written: example, classification, definition, process, argumentative, cause and effect, and comparison (Dd is graded on each of these skills. They inter-relate.) The Writer's Reference 6th edition with 2009 MLA updates is used for grammar/mechanics instruction. My delimma is this: I have to decide if she will continue with Comp II or if we'll use MFW for high school and count on the writing to be enough. Comp II will involve Comp I skills PLUS research and MLA documentation. It is a difficult class but comes highly recommended. Comp II doesn't have to follow Comp I, but they definitely work together. The student who takes both is VERY well prepared for college writing. A major difference between MFW and Comp II: MFW links history, Bible and English. The Comp II class is just that... it has NO tie into history or Bible. I really like the way MFW links these subjects together. I read a post this morning about skipping AHL and starting MFW with WHL. I know that might not be the best plan, but if we did that, then dd could take Comp II her 9th grade year. I think it would be WAAYYY overkill to try to do AHL plus Comp II as far as the English credit goes. Comp II is time consuming. (Also expensive, as each of these courses cost around $400.) So, I know it's a subjective question. I know I'll have to make up my own mind. I know this may seem strange to ask. But, do you MFW users have an opinion? Do we forfeit Comp II for MFW? Will MFW writing teach the research and MLA documentation skills? I'm also going to call MFW and ask them about this. Thank you so much for ANY help.
  11. I am new to the forum and have found the information amazing. Thank you all for such valuable insight. I am currently researching homeschooling and wanting to start in the fall. I currently have kids in 9th, 7th, 5th, 2nd, pre-k and an almost 2 yo. I am very interested in MFW, but am curious where you would start with a 10th grader coming out of the ps system. I want to cover as much as I can in the 3 years that we will have left, but feel that the prior education in these subject were very lacking. I am mostly concerned that she gets a good American History foundation and honestly wouldn't mind starting in that time frame and then going back. Also I would like the younger kids to be in the same timeframe to make it a little easier on me (if that is really possible). I would love everyones suggestions. I originally was going to do learning adventures with them adding more things for my hs dd, but I am really liking mfw and have heard great things about it. Thank you all so very much for all your help. :001_smile:
  12. I've spent hours this afternoon reading previous threads, and I know there are a few current ones too. I have several specific questions; I'm hoping you'll bear with me. My ds will turn 14 at the end of August and be a very young 9th grader. In the past, we've chosen a lit-based history (usually SOTW), but he seems to forget everything within a few months. For the last year and a half, I've tried changing things up a bit, but I've been bad at following through and the curriculum (both formal and pieced together) did not click for him. He has no learning issues, does not seem to have a preference for learning style, and is willing and motivated enough to do schoolwork. As he gets older, he's preferring to work more independently. He's a check the box kind of kid who does not get excited about large amounts of reading. I find MFW attractive because of the scheduling. I think ds would benefit from the variety of readings, catching different bits of information from different sources. My questions: How feasible is it to skip the book Taking the Old Testament Challenge? I'm not familiar with Ortberg and prefer to do our own Bible study, but I'd consider Ortberg if it were necessary for the program. Do I need the Ken Ham :glare: book? I suppose I could swallow that one if necessary. I wouldn't use The Purpose Driven Life, and I would use our own study on the Book of Daniel. Am I correct in assuming these specific resources are less important to complete the curriculum, and that I can substitute something I feel is more appropriate? Notgrass is spread out over two years. Is the book eventually read in its entirety? (While I loved Notgrass American History, older dd loathed it.) My other thoughts/concerns. Will Notgrass be overwhelming--boring, as it was to dd? The lit selections are intense, but it is much less than what he's done in the past so should balance out. He's particularly interested in Greek/Roman mythology, so he'll like that. He's kept a timeline notebook, using those same figures, for many years, so that will be completely familiar to him. Thank you for any suggestions/ideas/comments. It's quite an investment, even piecing together used, and I'll be praying about what to do.
  13. Youngest dd will begin to earn high school credit next year. I'm just not sure which direction to go with history. I've ruled out MOH vol 1 (we used that when she was in elementary grades). I'm considering MFW Ancients. I don't want something overwhelmingly lit based. I'm afraid Sonlight, and similar programs, might be too much. I don't want a straight text book either. I've considered BJU, but I think I will hold off and perhaps use them for US History. Could y'all help me put together a "master list" so I can preview materials and check some off. So far, I've got: Abeka BJU Sonlight TOG MOH Biblioplan Truthquest Notgrass
  14. I am trying get ideas for my ds's 9th grade history. I am looking at MFW AHL. I had used Notgrass World History with my other children and was disappointed in the quizzes used for assessment. Can someone tell me if MFW has any essay type questions for assessment or is it only the quiz book from Notgrass? Thanks!
  15. We are doing MFW Early American history with my 7th grader right now. I'm researching about where to go for 9th grade. I'm curious if those of you who use the high school MFW think it is similar. We found MFW for the younger ages to be a little too disjointed. Lots of reading small excerpts out of lots of books. We've found the Student pages to be pretty useless so far. So, I'm interested in knowing if AHL's format is like the younger grades... Thanks!
  16. Is it strictly Lit based with writing assignments? Do you feel the need to supplement? If you do supplement, what do use? Also, can you give me an example or 2 of the assignments? Thanks :)
  17. I love MFW, but I am looking around for high school. I am undecided whether or not we'll stay with MFW next year. I have looked around the TOG website, but it's difficult for me to tell what's what exactly and just what I have to buy vs what's optional. MFW is pretty cut and dry. :tongue_smilie: How do you like TOG's writing/lit? I don't really want to go a 'traditional' route for hs. My guys really love literature and learning without textbooks. (I know we use some textbooks with MFW, but they aren't our main source.) Is TOG worth the money? It seems quite pricey...How do you choose which books to buy? HELP!
  18. As for high school history, I've been pretty much decided on MFW high school for a long time: student-directed, integrated history, Bible, and English, and well-organized... this sounds just so perfect for us. I have asked about this before, but I need more data!!! :001_smile: Problem (if you want to call it that): We've been off schedule with classical history. This year we are all studying Middle Ages. So, next year, Dd's two younger brothers will continue with our current history cycle and will be ready for early-American history. If we use MFW for high school, this means we'll have American history and ancient history going at the same time next year. I don't really like this even if the oldest is independent. Before I decide for sure on MFW, what American history would be best for high school that my oldest can use so that all of my children can be studying the same history topics together? I do not want TOG.... I crave open-and-go material. My sons will probably use something that incorporates SOTW. I'm thinking of WTM history or History Odyssey.... I also own the History Channel's DVD America: The Story of Us. I definitely want to use this. The bottom line: 9th: MFW Ancient history and lit 7th and 4th: Early Modern (early American) OR 9th, 7th, and 4th Early Modern (early American) using History Channel's America: The Story of Us with _________________. Please make suggestions.
  19. I would like to use SWB's History of the Ancient World for our highschool textbook. Ds is in 9th grade and started the year with MFW which uses Notgrass World History and some other supplements. They divide World History into two years. We're too far into the school year I think to change our World History plans into 1 year. I really do not like Notgrass and would like to drop it but it provides quizzes, tests, comprehension questions and writing assignments. Ds is not really excited about history and we're not using the course for a SATII test or an AP test...just a basic part 1 World History course for 1 high school credit. If we drop Notgrass and continue reading 4 chapters per week we can get most of the way through the Middle Ages book as well. Ds outlines the chapter, then writes a summary from his outline as do I and then we discuss our outlines daily. I assign map work and timeline work once a week. If I want quizzes and tests I'll have to write them myself but since I'm outlining already hopefully that won't be too hard. My question is writing assignments. Notgrass assigns a 2-page paper every week. Now I realize that Notgrass is set up to also award an English I credit. So I'm thinking that that writing pace is to fulfill the English credit and not the history credit, though the student is writing about history. How much writing (other than the outline and summary) should I assign for our history course and where would I get some good ideas for assignments? Has anyone done World History this way? Please advise. If I'm being crazy and unrealistic, lay it on me. :D
  20. Does the text seem 80% biblical history than "academic history?" When I check over my daughter's end of chapter questions and quiz questions I see very little in the way of what I would consider "world history" I like integrated church/biblical history into our academics but it seems so out of balance. Is the Notgrass American History the same way? Thoughts?
  21. If you're using MFW high school, would you describe your role as the mom/teacher? What do you do at the beginning of the year to prepare to use the curriculum, and how much time do you put in on average per day/week? I'd like to hear about MFW high school from a mom's/teacher's point of view. How have you tweaked the curriculum to fit your needs/student's needs? Is it easy to use the rubrics to grade writing? How parent intensive is MFW high school especially if there are younger kids to teach? Has your student been able to follow the lesson plans from the get-go, or do you transition them into this skill by offering help? If you could give advice to a first-time user, what would it be? I'm seriously considering this for my 1st high school student next year. (Dd is currently taking a local outsourced English Comp I class that we are really enjoying. If she continues with English Comp II next year, I would have to choose something else for history to use with that class instead of using MFW. Otherwise, there would be too much writing... kind of like having two English classes. I love that MFW is 3 credits in one curriculum, so this is kind of a tough choice to think about right now.)
  22. How has your year gone? How was the work load? Were your dc able to pursue outside interests, or specialize in their favorite/best subject? Was there time for colledge courses? How did you like the lesson plans being written to the student? I really like MFW, have been planning to use it through high school, and am just really curious about it. Thanks!
  23. Our small Christian school will be piloting MFW AHL for the 9th grade this year. I am really excited about this, having researched it extensively these past few months. However, the teacher is expressing some concern about the (lack of in-depth) grammar lessons throughout the year, and how that might impact their college prep. For those of you who use/have used MFW in high school, what has been your experience? Thanks
  24. I have decided to have my just-turned 14yos and 12yod take a year (we're calling it grade 9.5 ;)) to finish up Ancient History, complete a second Algebra 1 book and just slow down and enjoy their studies. This last year was rough as I was sick from March-May so History was put on hold. I'm a firm believer in two years of Algebra if possible so this would allow for that as well as completing a lighter Geometry program. I'd also like to slow them down (especially my dd) so they can benefit from dual enrollment at CC as much as possible; if dd continues at the pace she has been she would graduate high school at 15yo and dual enrollment here isn't allowed until age 15. So, my idea is to focus on ancient history, finishing MOH (I had them sit in with me as I went through this with my younger dc). They are completing the timeline used with MFW and also read The Iliad/Odyssey, etc. I want them to do the 6 ancient art projects that came with MFW (something we would never have time to do in a regular school year). Still searching for what to use for literature... What do you ladies think?
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