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  1. I'm looking into switching to another spelling program that's more independent and just read an old thread about R&S that got me thinking maybe I should make a switch since we just finished level 3 today. I'm wondering which level I should go to after going through AAS Level 3 and how it compares? Or are there any other good independent spelling programs? I haven't looked through AAS4 yet but I'm starting to feel like it's too teacher intensive than they need (though we do our own modified version.) and we already do too many other teacher intensive things. The last steps, I felt like we could have done in one or two days but maybe that's a good thing. Especially since our time is limited (we afterschool in English subjects b/c they go to school in the am in a different language) They like spelling but I' wondering if they just like AAS and also because it's short. They LOVE the writing station portion. Anyway, any experiences with either, ideas, opinions will be helpful for me to think this through.
  2. Basic question, is AAR/AAS less overwhelming than LOE? I would really, really appreciate any thoughts on AAR/AAS. We have been doing LOE Foundations. We have gone through A, B, C, and are currently in the middle of D. I had planned on continuing with Essentials, but we are struggling! I have four kids in the various levels of foundations and we are all overwhelmed. It seems like there is just not enough review of the different rules and things before we are off to learn another. So, either I need to figure out my own way to review or switch programs. Is AAR/AAS less overwhelming? I have read that it moves much slower, and has more review, which seems like a really good thing at this point. I would really prefer an all in one program, but I'm starting to question if LOE is right for us. Does anyone have any experience with any of these programs that would mind sharing their thoughts? I read AAR/AAS doesn't have the kiddo mark the words, that seems not so great. Are there any other big differences? I like the color and playfulness of Foundations, but what is the point if we aren't retaining anything? Thanks.
  3. I just got an e-mail about the new AAS app. No money in my pocket. But, I've been hoping for something like this for a while. Huzzah! :) https://www.allaboutlearningpress.com/letter-tiles-app/?utm_campaign=Letter%20Tiles%20App&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=59851633&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_lFfpSRDj7GL0IrWDl48ObrktM2aX7NroAAalBR_Y1kFHijq67DEabCJ1_-0lcYLw65dsXDf-OZBR6_U8_yADk46UFnw&_hsmi=59851633
  4. My son is not a natural speller, which I discovered while using ABeka's 1st grade spelling. We switched to AAS and used levels 1-4. Then this year in 4th grade, I have him using R&S's grade 4 spelling. I needed something independent, since I have many little ones who need my time as well, and I just didn't feel I had time to devote to his spelling as well with something so teacher-intensive as AAS. However, I loved AAS and felt it worked for him. He has requested to go back to it. He doesn't like R&S so much. I don't feel he's retaining the words that he had a problem with. Most of the words he already knew, but if he didn't know them, he often still misses them. I don't like how R&S covers so many rules in one lesson, and wish they would be more focused like AAS. DS often makes mistakes in the workbook, mainly because he doesn't read directions well. So I wonder if I should keep him with it, just to help him learn to follow directions carefully and use logic! I'm really not sure if I should go back to AAS or not. It seemed to help his spelling more, but I really fear I don't have the time, and wonder if I should just stick with R&S, which is more efficient, cheaper, and still thorough (and he's not missing a lot of words on the tests, just one or two about every third week.)
  5. Rising 3rd grader (8 in October) needs to become a more fluent reader. Since K, been trying to teach him to read using the same program as his 4 older siblings (Phonics Pathways and SWR) but it was only after we tried AAS1 and AAS2 last year that it finally clicked. He finally"graduated" from easy readers to beginning chapter books and was reading with more ease. He's even read a few of the older Sonlight Core 2 readers we already own (Question of Yams, Secret Valley, Viking Adventure, The Littles, Last Little Cat...). Didn't really check his comprehension as I never did with the older ones. It seems reading is not natural to him though as it was with his siblings. I was hoping we could go back to using SWR this school year...and perhaps work on fluency by making him read aloud to me (something we have not been able to do regularly in the past...but I read TO him quite regularly and he narrates well and can even take simple dictation). However as we're trying to begin school slowly this past week, he's been having frustration going on with the Sonlight reader he picked randomly (Ralph S. Mouse). He asks me what something means every few phrases or when I make him read something aloud, he's not reading some words correctly (e.g. "dozen" for "dozed"). I think we need to do a reading program because he won't just learn naturally by reading more (for one, I have to remind him constantly to read...never did with the older 4 and we have tons of books at home). It seems the explicit way in which AAS teaches worked for him. He likes to know what rule to use in reading or spelling a word. Perhaps the tiles worked better also than just simple spelling lists (of unassociated words) in SWR....also the built-in review. So, I'm thinking AAR. But what level to begin with after having completed AAS2? Looking over the placement test, it looks like he would go into AAR3?
  6. My ds8 likes to read and doesn't have trouble spelling. I think he has a little bit of a photographic memory, he doesn't need much practice before he remembers how to spell a word. We will be finishing AAS through level 7 next year (3rd) but I don't know what to use next. I thought about something that teaches the Latin and Greek roots, but am open to suggestions. I don't want something too tough because he does have the maturity you'd expect for a typical 3rd grade boy.
  7. My ds8 likes to read and doesn't have trouble spelling. I think he has a little bit of a photographic memory, he doesn't need much practice before he remembers how to spell a word. We will be finishing AAS through level 7 next year (3rd) but I don't know what to use next. I thought about something that teaches the Latin and Greek roots, but am open to suggestions. I don't want something too tough because he does have the maturity you'd expect for a typical 3rd grade boy.
  8. Ugh. Wrong board. That's what I get for trying to multitask ;)
  9. I am currently using AAR level 2 with my son. I was wondering if anyone using AAR uses something different besides AAS. Wondering if there was another spelling program that worked well with it. Thanks
  10. I've seen a few homeschoolers (here and on a couple blogs) mention that they use AAS without the student packet. :huh: :confused1: How is that even possible? What does a typical lesson look like using only the Teacher Guide? My dd did SO well with AAS years ago but it just has not been in our budget :tongue_smilie: Someone is sending me the TG's for levels 2-4, but no student materials. We've been flopping around with freebies for too long and now her spelling is becoming an issue. I don't want to attempt using AAS without the student materials unless I know it has been successful for others :thumbup: and I have a general idea of what to use instead of the cards/etc. Thanks for any suggestions!
  11. We started back to school this week after a month of break and a month of "light school" before that. My 8yo was finishing up AAS3 with 2 lessons to go when we stopped for break. So we just jumped back in where we were yesterday, using the review cards. Gah! She spelled "graceful" "g - a - c - backwards e - s - f - u - l" and "where" "w - a - r - e - r". There were also some more straightforward mistakes, like not doubling the consonant in "giggle," "middle," "wetter," and "dropped". And, of course, there were all sorts of spelling mistakes (on things we had covered in AAS2 or AAS3) in her other written work. Overall, I was pretty discouraged. I suspect she's dyslexic because learning to read was a rough road (although she's reading at about grade level now.) Spelling has always been hard for her. She does not have a good visual memory for words, so I was really happy to find AAS because it taught rules and just relied on visual memory for rule breakers and the long vowel words that can be spelled different ways (e.g. "steel" vs. "steal"). By the end of last year, she seemed to be doing pretty well with spelling, although she had a bit of trouble keeping up with all of the different rules about adding suffixes. Is what I'm seeing just normal learning loss after a break? Or is it looking like AAS might not be working well for her? (But then, what else should I try?) Should I go back and re-teach some of AAS3, or is there a good way to review in more depth than just going through the cards? Or should we just continue on and go through the review cards? Thank you for your help! Spelling has been a tricky subject to teach this child because our brains seem to work in different ways. I learned to spell visually and never had much trouble with it.
  12. I'm looking for an app for either an iPad or Kindle that is simple. I'm hoping to find one that would support an Orton-Gillingham approach similar to All About Spelling/Reading or Logic of English. I have both of their apps, and while they're helpful, I'd love to find one that would alleviate the need for actual manipulatives for youngest ds. Something travel-friendly. Any suggestions appreciated. :)
  13. If you had to pick one or the other which would you use for a 7 y/o with basic phonics skills?
  14. I was wondering for those that use classical education and use any of the Orton/Spalding Spelling programs. I find myself learning more about Grammar Stage, and how easier is memorization for young children, and how logic, and a more analytical approach is best employed in 5th grade or so, depending on the child. Then I come to ask the wisdom from all of you that have used Spalding methods of spelling and agree with the classical aproach, I have used SWR and have read most of the other ones. Is the marking of the words a form of analylsis of the word, it is to me almost like a diagraming of the word. Am I asking too much from my K-2nd graders to do? Should they memorize the marking instead of being asked to analyze and mark? I wonder how many of you have used SWR/or other in a Classical way. Has anyone twicked these programs to better fit the grammar stage, with what results? I don't think I can compare a classical spelling program, like the ones sold at Memoria press, or other, as their aproach is different, teaching the long or short vowel sounds, instead of all the phonograms first. I ask because I am having a hard time with my children enduring markings, and they are little and really not understanding, they are K and 2nd. Could it be that their brains are not up to par? Belive me I have gone throught the guilt of thinking is just me, that I am not a good teacher. So far they can handle the phonograms, some of the rules, We have the SWR app. They are great readers! they have learned how to read with this program, now the spelling... my K is slow, my 2nd grader can spell great, I think is all the reading she does. back to the issue; grammar stage vs Orton methods. I would love to hear from both sides. and specially those that have noted something like what I say. I cannot go buy something different right now, so I have to make work what i have. How does that look for all you SWR/Spalding users? to mark or not to mark for grammar stage, that is one of my questions, k
  15. DS has little problem with words on the cards (AAS-1), but struggles with same concepts when mixed with longer phrases in the dictations. Has anyone implemented a successful review method for the phrase dictations? Maybe a spelling journal/notebook?
  16. Should I delay one or can it be done if scheduled a certain way? The half day woud need to include math, time for readalouds, independent reading, religion and science/history/art. :mellow: Too much?
  17. I am currently looking for a spelling program to go along with our R&S phonics, reading and English. The spelling was so awful when we tried it with R&S so we'll be using something different. I bought AAS and was impressed with the approach to teaching spelling but unimpressed with the cost and all the fluff that it involved. I can't keep up with it lol I've looked at How To Teach Spelling and Phonetic Zoo, each running into less then mediocre reviews. Are there any others you would recommend to me? Next year I'll be working with my K, 2nd and 3rd grader. Thanks in advance!
  18. I'm starting AAS this week with my ds6, and I'm wondering how you pace it. How many days a week? How many minutes per lesson? OR, how much of each lesson do you do every day? background: My son is halfway through his first grade year, and is almost through with phonics instruction through ABeka. We're switching from ABeka's spelling workbook for 1st grade. Thanks!
  19. I bought a used copy of AAS Level 3, but it is missing the Silent E book. Can someone describe the book so I can just make her one? Thanks
  20. If you have used OPGTR all the way through, at what point would you start adding in spelling. And if you wanted to add in AAS, after which lesson would you start? It seems like they overlap in a lot of areas, so I think it would work well together, just wondering when is a good idea to start?
  21. I have an incoming K5'er who's going nuts with writing everything and using lots of invented spelling. I was planning to wait until 1st grade to start spelling, and was planning on using Spelling Workout, but I think she is forcing my hand here and I'm looking at starting spelling in K instead. (We have been doing K4 with phonics, handwriting, and math.) I'm trying to figure out whether I ought to plan on using All About Spelling, which seems like it might be more appropriate for using with a K'er, or Spelling Workout, which was my initial plan. I really think that AAS would be the better curriculum for her learning style at this point (visual and interactive), but concerned about it matching up with the rest of our plans down the road (not to mention that I don't WANT to have to spend extra hands-on time on spelling...but that is just a little selfish consideration). ;) Some specific questions: 1. Has anyone used Spelling Workout with a K'er? How was that experience? We will be about halfway through OPGTR by the time we start K. 2. How much of the repetition in Spelling Workout do you find to be useful repetition as opposed to busy work? At this stage and with her still-kind-of-short attention span, I don't want to load her up with busy work that takes time and bores her. 3. I LOVE the way AAS teaches the rules of spelling in such a comprehensive and clear way. Is Spelling Workout as effective at really teaching the rules, or is it more like a "memorize a list of words and then spell them" curriculum? (I have looked inside a few of the workbooks, but have had a hard time getting a feel for the curriculum.) 4. How does All About Spelling transition into SWB's recommendations for vocabulary in middle school? I know that Spelling Workout has Latin and Greek roots toward the end of elementary/into sixth grade and really sets the student up for Vocabulary from Classical Roots in 7th and 8th grade. Does AAS have any Latin or Greek content at a similar stage? Or would I need to supplement with the 4/5/6 levels of Vocab from Classical Roots if I'm using AAS, as SWB recommends for those using Spelling Power? ETA: 5. What would you do? Thank you!!!!
  22. I'm not 100% Charlotte Mason in my teaching philosphy, but I do like a lot of what she stands for in education. I believe Charlotte Mason recommended spelling instruction beginning the end of 3rd grade through 9th grade. And her primary means was via dicatation. I believe some of the reason for this is the thinking that they need to learn to read and write well first so they aren't thinking so much about the mechanics of writing and can focus on picturing the words first. I like the idea of my kids learning spelling rules and I was heavily contemplating doing All About Spelling next year with my 1st grader. We'll be finishing All About Reading level 1 this year, and after completion of that level, the company recommends starting All About Spelling. I like the ideas of the two programs complementing each other, but I know it's not CM-like, and so that's why I'm questioning it. If we don't to AAS, there won't be a writing componant to his phonics/reading instruction. Is that a big deal if he seems to be progessing in his reading without it? I've heard a couple people say that they suspect kids are too young in 1st and 2nd grade to really remember spelling rules. Does anyone have experience with this one way or the other? Is there an advantage to starting spelling with children right away? On the long-term, do any of you teach spelling all the way through 9th grade, and does it look different in the older years? All thoughts on this are welcome as I try to figure out the route I will take with spelling instruction.
  23. I have glued the magnets that you get on a roll from a craft store to the tiles because I didn't want to just place an order for magnets. They keep falling off & driving me crazy! Anyone else have this issue? If I buy the magnets that go with the tiles will they stay on? Help!
  24. Can someone list for me (unless it is a whole bunch of them!) the suffixes taught in All About Spelling 3? I am considering purchasing a used set, but the suffix tiles aren't included, so I wanted to see about making my own tiles, or buying some separately, depending on how many there would be. Thanks!
  25. Before I reinvent the wheel, I thought I'd ask if anyone knows of a chart that has been made to use the explode the code workbooks along with all about spelling. So, they are doing the ETC sheets that go along with the AAS step? Anyone know?
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