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  1. I recently posted these questions on a yahoo list, so forgive me if you have already seen this. But I wanted to make sure to get as much input as possible before investing in TOG. By way of background, I have a verbally gifted 4yo dd (reading at 2nd grade level last I checked) and an almost 2yo ds. I am 40yo, so more children are very unlikely. So I would only have one lower grammar age student next year. I want to start on ancient history next school year, regardless of what curriculum I use. 1. I have noticed that a lot of people seem to buy many of the books, and I wonder if anyone has been successful in using the library for most or all of the books (especially in the lower grammar stage, where there are so many more books). I did a trial run at our library and ordered the entire first page of books for all levels for week one of the free on-line samples. Ninety percent of them came within a week. 2. I have also noticed that many people specifically purchase one book as the spine for the curriculum. I kind of like the idea of having the book here in case the library books don't show up. But then the costs start to outweigh the benefits of the program. How helpful is having the spine in the lower grammar stage? If you use one for lower grammar, what do you use? 3. One of my biggest concerns is that Tapestry of Grace has a heavy Protestant influence, and we are not Protestant. Because my family members are all different religions, it is important to me that all religions be treated with respect. Has anyone come across anything in the program that is disrespectful or that belittles another religion (for example, saying that they are going to he** or cannot be saved)? 4. The company is really pushing the digital version (but I wonder if it is just because they make more profit off of it). I like the idea that in 5 or 9 years, when we have reached the upper levels, I will have access to information about new books added to the program. But I wonder how often this happens? The digital version is cheaper up front, but then there are the printing costs and the fact that you cannot resell it. 5. One of the real benefits of the program is the ability to teach multiple children from the same curriculum. Is it still worth it with only 2 kids? (And, of course, ds is sure to be the mathy one, right?) Thanks for your help! Tracy My Homeschool Journey: http://myfamilyiseternal.blogspot.com/
  2. I have almost a year to research curricula before starting 1st grade with dd next year. I am very interested in Tapestry of Grace for a multitude of reasons and wonder if you TOG users (or even former users) can help me make an assessment. I personally love the Socratic method and am very comfortable with it. I have always been a supporter of an integrated approach. I like the varying levels for dd that is more gifted in some areas than others. And I really want a curriculum that is Bible-based rather than secular. If I were to design a curriculum for myself, this would be it. But it is hard to assess with only three weeks of free samples (as much as that is!). The most difficult part to assess is the religion aspect. I know that it is a Protestant curriculum. However, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS, Mormon), and I know that the LDS Church is not always treated very nicely in Protestant materials. Someone did make me aware of a passage of one text that had some inaccuracies and a huge amount of bias. That alone doesn't bother me, because my children have to learn to deal with that. But I want my children to learn correct history as much as possible and also to treat other religions with respect and to work together with them. So this leads me to the following questions (1) Are these inaccuracies indicative of other inaccuracies throughout the curriculum? (2) Is this bias against the LDS Church indicative of how other churches are treated generally? Can you make me aware of other instances where any church is not treated with respect? I am also interested in your personal experiences with TOG. I have received reports that it was too much material, library materials were difficult to get, it is difficult to prepare for multiple children (younger ds1 would be starting ancients with dd in 4 years). Anything you can tell me would be helpful.
  3. Hi there...I posted an intro on the general board, so just jumping in here. I'm sorta new, but not to homeschooling...like that makes any sense at all, lol! I pulled my dd, 'Diva' from school half way through grade 3. For the year following, we were 'blended' meaning that we did almost everything according to the provincial standards, followed the same text books, blah blah blah. Ick. This year, we're still 'blended' but a much happier blend, in that we're not using any provincial materials, but hitting the same outcomes for math, art, phys ed, health, and music. We have the ability to receive some reimbursement, and there's more when you have more subjects aligned than strictly traditional. Anyways, I'm now becoming braver as a homeschooler, and looking at curriculum. I bought SoW, Unit 2, and love it. Specialmama has ToG and I was over at her place, and it was an instant love at first read too. Of course, there's a HUGE difference in price btwn the 2 programs, and if you read my intro, you know that I was injured at work, and my drs say that its a permanent disability. (Not that Workers Comp agrees though...course not.) So, I'm understandably a wee bit nervous about ToG, despite my initial instant love. One thing that REALLY appeals to me about ToG is that I have the Littles...Tazzie is 4, and Princess is 2.5, so ToG would absolutely get a full work out with those guys. Diva is in grade 5 by psb standards, so she's got a ways to go there too. So, I'm throwing myself at the mercy of you folks here who have older kids and have been using either of these programs for several years...pros, cons? Tips, tricks, hints? Anything? Thanks so much!
  4. You know, I've wanted to love ToG. I really have, but somehow, it just seems like history isn't getting done. My 7th grader does all the required reading, but we are still not getting to the weekly discussion, and when we do this history-loving, smart kid, still doesn't seem to know the answers. This is out of character for him. What are my options, you ask? Well, I am seriously considering jumping ship and returning to Veritas Press. We loved the daily flashcard drill (pre-made, a huge plus!), it really helped his retention, and the daily hands on was good for me, too. Problem is, that I have already ordered the year 3 ToG in advance. I can't remember the policy - what was it? $25 cancellation fee? I don't know, any really redeeming reason that I can't use SoTW with my 3rd grader (with 7th listening in) and do VP with 7th grader and both working on the cards and song? I can certainly add in a bunch of reading to help him out. Will I regret this decision? Thanks.
  5. I have seen several posts on here about TOG and how great it is, so after checking out the website for it I thought it looked pretty cool. My question is though how intertwined is American history in it? As a Canadian I do not want my kids to have a major focus on US history until they actually know Canadian history. Is it easy to tweak it to have more Canadian history and less American? Or does the whole thing have a US slant on it?
  6. My dh has recently taken an active part in our hs by making some curriculum switcheroos. We switched our younger children's math to MUS. My oldest uses MUS highschool courses so we are all MUS now. Over the weekend, my dh practically stretched comfortably across the floor and read through some of our curriculum catalogs (very unusual for him. boredom maybe) and saw TOG brochure. "Why aren't we using this?" And the rest is history. Next year, my oldest will be in college so I will have two 6th graders (twins), a 5th grader and pre-K (3 1/2). I just popped the trial sample in last night after spending two to three days reading through the brochure and site. Now, if I start with yr 1 (which I would love since it's been two years since we did ancients) then my twins will be in yr 4 while in 9th grade. They will repeat yr1-3 in highschool. Year 4 will still count as highschool credit since it will be taken in 9th grade and we will use the high school lit. but I hate completing their studies on year 3. That's weird, isn't it? I have some kind of OCD, I'm sure. Has anyone switched to TOG in the later years? And where's the Bible? I've seen a lot of church history? Is that counting as Bible? If I sound ignorant, just ignore me. That's what my dh does. :D
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