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  1. Hey y'all, Just a quick reminder that Peace Hill Press has lowered its prices by 20% on nearly everything in the store...and we've lowered the prices on our already-discounted "School in a Box" kits by 10%. No need to enter coupon codes, etc; the prices are already cut. This sale continues through Monday at noon Eastern time. Justin at PHP
  2. I LOVE the look of biblioplan for history. My girls will be in 2nd and 4th grade and in the medieval period of history. This year we did ancients with SOTW. We loved it. We did narrations and a lapbook and a timeline and just had so much fun with it. I really wanted to incorporate biblioplan and do more literature tied in with history, as well as stuff that isn't history related. My only concern was that it doesn't include narrations. Have any of y'all used this program and incorporated narrations for history? I don't want to bog them down with extra work just to say we did. But I loved having them write out what they learned in history. Or do you find the kids do great with the questions and not bother with narrations? Thanks so much for your help.
  3. I'm putting together a history project for the next couple years, loosely based on Sonlight G/H, usuing SOTW as my spine. My kids are 5,8,11 and 13. I mostly know what I'm doing, but the SOTW activity book suggests 4 encyclopedias for cross reference: The Kingfisher Illustrated History of the World The Kingfisher History Encyclopedia The Usborne Book of World History (which I already own) The Usborne Internet-Linked Encyclopedia of World History Do I really need all of them? I can get The Kingfisher History Encyclopedia from the library to look at, but I don't want to buy another book if it's just a lot of repeat! Thanks!
  4. I would rather go through the Middle Ages with my two oldest dd's chronologically like SOTW instead of by region like History Odyssey does in Level 2 Middle Ages. My girls wanted to use History Odyssey Level 2 plugging in Human Odyssey for their reading assignments instead of using TSOM. We would like to do it chronologically though, especially since we will listen to the SOTW audio. Has anyone paired up SOTW 2 with History Odyssey Level 2 Middle Ages in a schedule that they don't mind sharing?? I've searched but haven't found anything yet.
  5. I am going to be doing SOTW 2 with my 2nd and 4th grade girls next year. It is easy to find literature for a 2nd grader because that is typically when one would be in that year. I have found Classical House of LIterature to use with her. I may not use every day's narration page though, as I think she would become frustrated. However, I am having trouble finding some history based literature for my 4th grader. Does anyone have suggestions for 4th grade or 5th grade level books for this year in history? And did you do special questions or anything to go with them, or just have them read and discuss? Thanks in advance!!!
  6. Sometimes our books are damaged in the printer-to-warehouse-to-bookstore journey, and we can no longer sell them at full price. But if you don't mind a bit of minor wear & tear (small scratches, etc), you can save money on all kinds of Peace Hill Press products! We keep a list of currently-available discounted books here. Since they're kept at our office, rather than at our warehouse, you'll need to order them by phone. Call us at 1.877.322.3445.
  7. I am in the process of trying HO Level 1 (Early Modern) with A. -- we are in the second week -- and since neither of us particularly enjoys SOTW, and since it will take a chunk o'time to read the SOTW assignments, I am wondering if we are better served by not using SOTW or by including it? My goals at this point are: to get A. onto a history track that I don't have to personally design; to have him learning some history and developing related skills RE note-taking, writing, &c; and not to spend time needlessly -- we do a generous amount of academics, and his classical piano takes up a lot of time too. My other option is to continue with the AO history rotation, but he really really detests that. He enjoys HO more, but 1. it is more time-consuming and 2. he hasn't had to do the SOTW stuff yet. any thoughts about just these options? thanks in advance!
  8. I want to start using SotW and I would like to try an activity book as well, but I don't honestly see us using all four books (they are pricey and my kids don't usually go for crafts, coloring and projects). I'm leaning towards just starting with volume 1, but if it's a miss I would never know if there is a better volume. So I guess I am just asking which activity book gives the most bang for the buck? If we love it then I would feel better about buying another book in the future. FWIW, my boys are 6 and 8 and we have already done a year each of world history, countries and cultures, and American history. TiA!
  9. For a while, I have planned to use MFW ADV in 2014 (we school according to the calendar year). But now I'm thinking about using SOTW 2 in 2014, and then starting ADV in 2015. We used SOTW 1 this year. I will use MFW--already own the programs for ADV-RTR--but I'm wondering if it would be better for our family to wait one more year for MFW, sad as it would be for me, since I was highly anticipating it this year! Could those of you who love planning look at my family's line-up and tell me wwyd in my situation??? I'll give year, then the "grades" of my children for that year, then my line-up for the two options I could do for that year. 2014: 2nd/K/toddlers: Either ADV or SOTW 2 2015: 3rd/1/pre-K: ECC or ADV 2016: 4th/2/K/pre-K: CTG or ECC 2017: 5th/3/1/K: RTR or CTG 2018: 6th/4/2/1: EX1850 or RTR 2019: 7th/5/3/2: MOD or EX1850 2020: 8th/6/4/3: ECC again or MOD ------------------- 2021: 9th grade!!! 7/5/4: Oldest leaves MFW cycle, start high school level ancients, not sure which curric. MFW or TOG or other? youngers do either ECC or use another curric like TOG all together in ancients with 9th grader. _________________________________________ So in either set-up, I'm using MFW's cycle. I'm just wondering whether to start this year or next. Another note--while I say grade level, my children all have birthdays in April, so they are on the young side of their grade level. My ds1 will turn 7 this coming April. So if I use ADV, I'd be starting with an old 6 and 4-year old in February. I have looked at the manual and know my 6-year old will have no trouble with ADV. But one positive of waiting another year is that my ds2 could then do so much more with it (being in 1st grade then), so I could include him more and let the package count for both. If I do it this year, ds2'd probably miss much of it. Also, if I wait a year, ds1 could read many more of the book basket books (and I have a lot of them!) But if I wait a year, I wonder if it would be too easy for ds1. Here's one major question: Do I want to repeat the year of geography, and have 2 years of geography (especially repeating it with ds1 in 8th grade) or do I want to do a full history cycle 3 times? If I do SOTW 2, I really like that progression better--SOTW 1, then 2, then ADV, then geography in 4th, then repeat history cycle in logic stage grades 5-8. I don't really like skipping from SOTW 1 to ADV, although it's not that big of a deal to me. Originally I liked the 1st setup better, because then all of my kids are together for ancients when ds1 hits 9th grade. Otherwise (if I bump MFW back one year doing SOTW 2 in 2014), if I had the others do ECC while ds1 does ancients in hs, (which I do think is important that they have at least one year of ECC--this would be when they're in grades 7, 5, and 4), then they are studying separate topics, and I loved the vision of everyone discussing the same things around the family table. But dh says they'll just make connections and have great discussions anyway regardless of if our high schoolers are more independent doing their own separate studies. I'm not sure I want to base my decision now on what might happen 7 years from now, kwim? Maybe the youngers could skip ECC and do just the history of the cycle, or do ECC and jump into RTR while older does that year. Just don't know what I'm going to do so many years from now. One more thought: MFW seems to be revising their TMs one per year. If they continue at this rate, every year they would put out the new revised TM about two months after I had started it--if I started ADV this January. For example, this year their new ADV manual is coming out in March 2014. That would be annoying... If I wait a year, I can be about 9 months behind the revisions. Not sure what is best... So what would you do in my situation? Do you like the first set-up better or the second? (I realize that if I choose SOTW 2, I'd have to replace Bible, science, art, and music as well, but I'm not too worried about that.)
  10. I'm teaching my first class at our large (200+ students) co-op next week. We are studying Ancient Civilizations. My topic is Invention of the Wheel (or the potter's wheel). I'm stumped about a hands on activity for the 1st & 2nd graders. I know I shouldn't be nervous, as they are just 30-35 6 & 7 year olds, but I am. I need something that takes about 40 minutes (including the teaching part). Any bright ideas?
  11. I plan on using SL Core H this year with my oldest ds13. We'll be using SOTW 3 and 4. I would LOVE to do some kind of notebooking to go along with this core, but haven't seen anything that stands out to me as a great plan. I didn't get the activity guides, because we have comprehension questions to answer in our SL IG, and we'll do mapwork on the markable map. I know he's too old for coloring pages, so the activity guides are pretty much out. I thought about doing some blank notebook pages that he could write a written narration on, but that just lacked the visual appeal. Does anyone have notebook pages or could tell me how I could make some? Thanks so much! ;)
  12. If there is a thread I've overlooked answering this question, please let me know! We are doing Story of the World volume 1 Ancient Times this year. I'd love to find a readers list (not read a louds but books my dd can read on her own) that goes along with ancient civilization. I'm looking for 3rd-4th grade reading level. She is a rising 2nd grader, so I'm also being aware of content and comprehension being appropriate. Thank you!
  13. Seriously, the spiral bound editions hold up so much better than the regular paperback.
  14. Hello all. I'm looking for a history of the world curriculum with a Christian worldview, especially for timeline dating purposes. I am considering this curriculum for my 5th grader. We've used SOTW before and I feel that it is time for her to move on to something a bit more challenging/in-depth. I consider MOH, but am concerned that the 4th volume is not complete yet, because I do like to follow the 4 year history cycle. Any suggestions?????
  15. I was looking at what is available for History next year. and a search took me to this link http://www.redshift.com/~bonajo/fancy.htm#workbook however the link is broken. Has anyone ever use these workbookpages? where can I get them? THe original poster was http://ollhomeschoolresources.com/story_of_the_world_workbook_pages.htm but the site if for sale... thank you!
  16. I just finished and shared my FREE Ancient Egypt plans on my blog! You can check them out here: http://themommywrite...bookshands.html The spines are Story of the World 1 and Temples, Tombs,and Hieroglyphs with a couple of chapters thrown in there from The Story of Mankind. ;) I have activities and videos planned in there as well! Hope you all like it and can get some use out of it! ETA: I have also just posted the second term focusing on Ancient Greece! You can see that here: http://themommywrite...kshands_10.html The spines for this term are Story of the World 1 and Famous Men of Greece, which is available for free on mainlesson.com!
  17. Having completed our first full SOTW history cycle, we are looking to go back to Ancients this fall. My ds is 11; dd 9. When we first did Ancients, our approach was mostly answering questions orally, simple narrations, coloring and mapwork, plus some of the activities. With my son being in "6th grade," I was hoping to ramp up his work this year, but the test booklet (which we did not do first time around) looks below his level. I was hoping for something more in keeping with the Volume 4 tests / activities (especially the outlining). I see now that Volume 1 is intended for grades 1-4. Given my son is going into 6th grade, what should I do? I cover history with both children at the same time. How can I ramp things up for him without going over her head? What are some things you have used when you've come around the cycle the 2nd time?
  18. I HATE PLANNING!!! I started a thread last week about lesson plans for SOTW and got some really great helps. Although some are soooo tempting none of them are EXACTLY what I want. I have downloaded at least 6 different lesson plans! You have to understand that I was a Sonlight user for years. I LOVED the IGs. I really liked having my week laid out for me and I had confindence in knowing that everything was planned out. My kiddos wanted more activities, however, and I found myself saying that I didn't have time for any because there was sooooo much reading to do. So what I want are weekly lesson plans using SOTW Vol. 1 as the main spine with one of the other books that are linked to it in the Activity Guides. I want the plans to include Activities from the Activity guide lined up for me. I have this vision of weekly scheduled pages with the read alouds that are listed in the activity guides along with maybe a few other great literary picks. I can see a completed notebook using the activity guide pages at the end of the year. I think it also might be cool to turn the student pages into a spiral bound "workbook" at the beginning of the year. Every schedule seems to have SOTW scheduled with a diff. history or something. They all have aspects that I love, like one has the activities lined up for you. One has comprehension questions and vocabulary all there for you with the answers. One has scheduled just SOTW and one of the Usborne books (what I want) but doesn't use the activity guide. I know, I know, I should just plan my own schedule, but I have 7 kiddos including a 2 month old who nurses constantly! Can't someone just read my mind and write it for me?????:tongue_smilie:
  19. This is for A., who will be in 3rd grade next year. He is very accelerated in maths and likes science enormously but not history. I've set SOTW aside (twice now) because he is just totally uninterested -- NOT rude, just disliking history and not enjoying at it. We've had enough to keep us busy with other work (I've been focusing on developing writing skills) and his maths. At any rate: I know I'd like to move him onto a 4-yearish history cycle (or three years + 1 year geography) starting in 5th/Logic. And I'd like to add history back in for 3rd and 4th to get our feet wet, perhaps spark an interest, build pegs, and make me feel generally cheerful about the thoroughness of my curriculum plans (I know that last reason is shallow, but there you are ;) ). Here are the two-ish options I've brought it down to: 1. Do history of science. Use Beautiful Feet's program as a spine, enrich it some perhaps with livingmath stuff, and either spread it across 2 years as a history of science & math together or do it in one year and follow with a year of geography (of interest to A.). 2. Do SOTW, and probably CHOLL too, with mapwork. Start where we left off in Ancients (probably starting by this June) and stop at the end of fourth. (ETA the starting in Ancients is a choice; I dropped ancients b/c A. detested mythology and picked up with medieval ages this year, which I paused due to lack of interest and a growing distaste (in A.) for the level of violence implied. He's gotten better about the mythology at least.) thoughts? not sure whether to focus on interest, or just getting a foundation laid ... the child is currently happy, well, and pretty good about his schoolwork.
  20. DS7 and I are listening to the SOTW1, and DS7 has asked to do a more in-depth study of ancient libraries. I'm thinking a timeline, map, and some pictures of old documents, but does anyone know of a book, video, resource or something of the like? I found a History Channel documentary on the Library at Alexandria. Other than that, all I've got for ideas is the They Might Be Giants song, The Mesopotamians, running through my head (as the origin of this is the Library of Ashurbanipal) ... Thanks! :-)
  21. I just received my story of the world book and activity book (ancient times) and noticed that while in TWTM it recommends doing a chapter a week, there are 42 chapters in the book, plus an introductory chapter. We are only planning on homeschooling 36 weeks and taking a long summer break, and we are only doing history 2x a week. So I'm wondering how to fit in all those chapters...or should I even try? What did you do? Skip chapters? Do two chapters a week? Take 1.5 years to finish book 1?
  22. Hello, I have SOTW and MOH for Ancients and wanted to use them both. Biblioplan (upper middle grades 6-8) includes both of these for spines and I like the Christian approach. The cost for the set is more than I was planning on. My ds wouldn't like the coloring book and we have a timeline that could be used. My question for those of you who have used Biblioplan is which books are the most important if you purchased them separately ? Family Guide Companion Discussion guide Cool History Cool History Classic? Hands-on Maps This is for one student, my youngest. Thanks for your help.
  23. Background: -Like many here, I have been intrigued with TOG since I first heard about it, not too far into our homeschooling journey which began 3.5 years ago when my oldest (then in the middle of 1st grade) requested that I homeschool her. I have spent hours reading most of the TOG threads here and just returned from the Great Homeschool Convention in Long Beach where I heard Marcia Somerville (TOG creator) speak - I went to both of her workshops and that's what renewed my interest in the curriculum. At the same time, I also thoroughly enjoyed Susan Wise Bauer's workshops, and was encouraged to continue with TWTM. -We just wrapped up our school year and our first four-year cycle of SOTW / WTM (my oldest) -My children will be entering 5th, 3rd, and 1st grades, so Upper Grammar (maybe some Dialectic) and Lower Grammar Questions: (I do know about the buffet concept and that you don't do everything, but still wondering about how to implement it in these ways) How compatible is TOG with WTM? Does it follow the same question and narration format? (I'm having trouble seeing that with the samples - I see questions only for dialectic and I see writing exercises, but I can't tell if they correlate). Does anyone use SOTW at the spine? Whether using SOTW as the spine or the TOG spine, is it helpful to use the SOTW AG questions & verbal narration followed by written or is the equivalent of that in TOG? Is it realistic to schedule TOG with math, science, grammar, spelling, Latin, Spanish, and intro to Logic? (the latter two just for my 5th grader) If so, how do you do it without taking up your whole day or getting behind in the four-year cycle? Is there art and music appreciation at the UG & LG level at all? I believe I read that it's touched on in the D level. If so, how do you schedule that in along with all of the subjects listed above? How much / what do you read aloud to your UG & LG students? Do you read anything aloud to your D students? ...As it may be obvious, I'm rather attached to the WTM way of doing SOTW, but I also had some real struggles with my oldest and narration (verbal & written), especially in our 2nd and 3rd years. I can't imagine experiencing that with my middle child, while also schooling my oldest and youngest. So I guess I'm looking for some hand holding, but also afraid of losing the benefits of the rigors of going soley with WTM/SOTW. At the same time, TOG seems like more work in some ways - less concentrated and more spread out. Any input to help me decide would be great - I don't want to inflict the three week sample on my children when we've just finished up our school year (we really need a rest period). I have a coupon that has to be used in the next two weeks, so that's part of why I want to decide soon - if I get the full year program, we can get all the instructional DVDs ($50 value) free or free shipping if we buy the print version. Can anyone comment on how helpful those DVDs are?
  24. I am on the fence about whether to follow TOG Year 1 as written or painstakingly rearrange it to go chronologically (an option, though not the preferred one, presented in the TOG Yr 1 introduction), so that I can continue to use SOTW as our spine (even though TOG only lists it as an alternate) because I really enjoyed all 4 years of SOTW with my oldest (following WTM) and want to do it again with my younger two. The only problem is that it's not a perfect fit, as TOG doesn't always line up with SOTW, even when rearranged chronologically. Any other input on meshing Tapestry of Grace with the Well Trained Mind is also appreciated, as that's what I'm attempting to do all the way around.
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