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  1. Hi, My ds is only 10. However, he LOVES math and science. SO I am looking ahead... :-) This is my understanding thus far... In order of difficulty Singapore options would be listed as follows: 1. NEM (There are TM's, but not solutions for every problem) 2. DM (TM's and all solutions) 3. NSM New syllabus math: not sure of difference??? 4. New Math Counts (Easiest of levels) Can someone help me understand why go with NEM vs DM vs NSM? After you complete one of these, obviously there needs to be something for 11th and 12th... so would the College Math be sufficient? AND... Since Singapore Math curriculums are not broken down pre alg; alg1; geom; alg2; trig; calc... HOW on earth do you do transcripts etc? Can someone please help me understand all of this??? :bigear:
  2. http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1640986#post1640986
  3. What have people done. I love the Singapore Math books and feel my dc have been challenged and done well overall. My only concern s that there doesn't seem to be much info about how students who have continued with SM have done on tests such as the SAT and ACT. If I choose to continue on is there a program that will mesh well with SM to be sure my children are able to do the same work when presented differently? Or is there something I could supplement with, aside from LOF (we use those for fun over the summer). One of my ds looks like he may be heading towards and advanced AP track in math, is this possible with SM. Or should I just switch all together? Anyone out there have experience in this area? Please guide me though this decision. Danielle
  4. Does NEM math have a HIG? Also what is the difference between New Elementary Mathematics, Discovering Mathematics, New Syllabus Mathematics, and New Mathematics Counts? Do any of those have HIG's?Are any of those for after the middle school math?
  5. Since NEM starts with a section of prealgebra and since it ends with review, I'm planning on assigning high school credit as follows: Integrated Math I - NEM 1-first half of 2 IM II - NEM 2-first half of 3 IM III - NEM 3-4 (we likely won't work through the review) IM IV - Additional Mathematics 1 IM V - Additional Mathematics 2 This works out to Alg I&II, geometry with proofs, trig, statistics (not AP) and Calc I (basically, Calculus AB). All of these are honors level credits. Calc II, if we take it separately, will get its own credit. Is this reasonable?
  6. We are currently using Singapore Primary Mathematics, and ds10 is doing great. We will move into level 5 next year and then onto 6th. As we approach middle school and highschool, I have been looking at algebra, geometry and so forth. DS is a 'mathy' kid, and gets the hows and whys, and wants to know more! With all of that said, can someone explain the major differences of these Singapore Math Programs??? New Elementary Math Discovering Math New Additional Math College Math I know that College Math is taken after NEM, DM, or NAM... and it recommends completing NAM. What are the differences in NEM, DM and NAM? Is one series more challenging/difficult? :bigear: :bigear: :bigear: Thanks!
  7. Help! I was wondering what to use after we complete 6B?
  8. Has anyone used Singapore all the way through high school? DD is finishing up NEM Syllabus 3 and I need to decide what to use next. Thanks!
  9. I'm wondering if anyone is using the Singapore Series for their older students. I'm thinking that we'll use the New Elementary Mathematics hopefully starting in 7th. I also have the Videotext Algebra course (just A, so far). I'd love to hear about your experiences. Including your thoughts on how it is to teach the courses.... (And how far you've gone:-) I really am enjoying doing the Singapore with her now, and hope to continue enjoying it. Carrie:-)
  10. We have been using Singapore Math since we began our homeschooling journey. I did the suggested placement test for DD when we first started (she was then 5) and thereafter purchased the US Edition textbook & workbook for all the levels 1A/B - 4A/B. I absolutely love the program. DD (now 7) is presently in 3A and DS (nearly 5) is in 1A. Both are doing well. DD is very strong in math and frequently jumps into the workbook lesson with little/no instruction from me. I introduce new concepts briefly and she's off and running. Moving forward, I am beginning to see the value / need for possible supplemental books; particularly the Home Instructors Guide for the answer keys! Of the following - which do you all feel would be worthwhile? Extra Practice US edition Intensive Practice US edition Challenging Word Problems US edition Also, beyond 6B - where do I go? The website states they have 4 options: New Elementary Mathematics (most challenging), Discovering Mathematics, New Syllabus Mathematics, and New Mathematics Counts (least challenging). I'm leaning towards New Elementary Mathematics. Has anyone here used these? Thoughts / Opinions ?? Thank you!
  11. I put this in the K8 board but I thought I'd better put it here too. Has anyone used Singapore's 7-12 curriculum and what were the good and bad aspects of the material? also Some people recommend skipping 7th and 8th grade math if the k-6 material is mastered. Is this true with Singapore as well or is there new content in the junior high grades so those books should not be skipped?
  12. I have a question from a friend about Singapore Math. Has anyone used Singapore's 7-12 curriculum and what were the good and bad aspects of the material? also Some people recommend skipping 7th and 8th grade math if the k-6 material is mastered. Is this true with Singapore as well or is there new content in the junior high grades so those books should not be skipped? Thanks!
  13. I am considering Discovering Math for my 7th grader instead of NEM. If anyone is using DM now, I would appreciate a review. Thanks so much. Ann
  14. This is long. Sorry. After a few confusing years of ps Everyday Math and a year of Saxon 56 during which he did fine solving the problems and memorized the standard algorithms but still couldn't apply his math, my older son did PM3B-6, then the first maybe five? chapters of NEM. Then he paused to do Keys to Algebra 1-3 to cement "all those little rules" (his words), then we continued on in NEM. He did NEM1, NEM2, NEM3, and then he went off and did pre-calculus at the community college with Blitzer. Now he is doing technical calculus at college and he says he "rocks" at the algebra part compared to the other students. He is struggling with the calculus. This doesn't surprise us. He has always struggled mightily with math. I kept him in Singapore because I had a strong feeling that he just wouldn't understand how to apply his math if he used a different book. Sometimes I wish that I had done Dociani with him, but then I remember my own high school's math classes. We used Dolciani. Only about 20 of us out 200 did calculus in 12th grade, so I think perhaps it isn't a magic bullet. I remember that I struggled with word problems that my son solved easily, even though I was several years ahead of him in math and doing that Dolciani. I also have trouble judging the Dolciani because my father did my math with me and taught me what he called the engineering way of doing things. This definately wasn't like I was being taught at school. It was more like Singapore than Dolciani. Now I have to make the same decisions for my youngest. He is in 9th now and doing NEM3. I am wondering if I should switch him to Dolciani because I remember doing lots of things in 9th grade that he isn't going to get in NEM3 or even NEM4, like logs and matrices and series. I know my son could go straight into CC pre-calc next year after completing NEM3 (and we'd probably get to bits of 4) but he might want to peacewalk, which doesn't mix well with CC classes. Or he might not. Would those missing bits come back to haunt him later on in engineering school? I remember having a whole extra computer science math class that covered many of those bits. It was a waste of time for me because I had had all that in high school, but the fact that it was required might mean that my son would be fine if he doesn't do it in high school. Is there any advantage to getting through all of the CC's two semesters of pre-calc and their three semesters of calc before going to college? Do I switch him to Dolciani algebra 2? I bought an old used one. (That is how I know we used it in high school. When I unwrapped it, my husband and I groaned. It brought back all sorts of memories.) It does indeed have those missing things. Then what happens to geometry? I figured out where those missing bits are in Singapore - NAM, which the more advance math students take concurrently with NEM3 and 4. We, however, are already spending between two and three hours a day on math. I can't imagine adding in NAM. We might have time to get to a few chapters of NAM at the end of this year if my son doesn't go walking for too long. I spent less than two hours on math in high school. I don't think this son is any less mathy than I was, so... so what? Is NEM particularly arduous? Is it worth it? Can we jump into Dolciani midstream? Do I suppliment with Dolciani? If he waits another year and doesn't do pre-calc until 11th, then he could do Dolciani Algebra 2 and/or NAM in 10th, but what would I call it on his transcript? Integrated Math 4? Questions, questions... So the issues are: Time spent each day Time available each year (with peacewalking) Peacewalking not mixing with community college (he would vanish mid-semester) Missing bits Geometry (included in NEM but not in Dolciani) I like the applied-ness of NEM Advantage of getting two semesters of precalc and three of calc at CC before going to college My son himself wants to just keep doing NEM and add in NAM. The community college says they will look at everything and offer advice. Before I go talk to them, though, I'd like to know what the hive thinks. -Nan
  15. Dh, dd and I have decided to change our math plans for her. She will be finishing Singapore 5 and then 6. I would like to have her as well prepared for Algebra 1 as possible. I'm trying to decide what to add to her plan to create a solid foundation. We don't mind if she runs into 8th grade a little (maybe halfway) before starting Algebra. We would rather she be ready and not rush this too much. What supplements would you add to Singapore? We could then go back to Basic College Math and work just some chapters from it OR we could do just NEM 1 (since I've read that many of the missing pre algebra topics are here) but we would probably go to a different Algebra I program after finishing it and not stay with NEM. NEM scares me, by the way, I worry it will be too much for me!:D OR Rod and Staff Grade 8 OR we could add in something else. ?? What do you think?
  16. For those of you who use NEM, what do you actually need. It looks like the textbook and teacher edition (for the solutions to the challenging problems) are necessary. Do you find the solution manuel helpful? Do you use the supplemental workbook? Are there tests or do you make up your own, or not do them?
  17. Can Singapore's New Elementary Math be combined with Chalkdust. I am strong in math and I like NEM, but I'm not sure I want to take the time to teach it to everything to my son. Can the Chalkdust dvds be used alongside NEM to help explain some of the concepts?
  18. If so what are you using and how do you like it?? How does the program change once you get out of the Primary grades?? Are you planning on sticking with Singapore through High School or are you going to be using something else? Thanks to all who reply. :)
  19. I was set on using Foerster's, and bought it. Today my friend let me borrow NEM (we used Singapore until now) and I really like it. I think even if my ds goes to school in two years, he'd be fine with this. Can anyone compare NEM to any other math program? Anyone who did NOT like NEM? Please tell me why? Catherine
  20. What do you use after Primary Mathematics? Do you use NEM or something else? And what do you use after NEM?
  21. I am trying to decide between Singapore's New Elementary Math 1 and Discovering Mathematics 1. I have been on their website and seen the comparisons. I like the scope and sequence in NEM but the instruction in DM. Can anyone give me a comparison from their own use? I want one that does a thorough job of explaining area, angles, etc. plus reviews all the basics. I am hoping one of our local bookstores carries both and I can see them side by side without having to order them.
  22. Does anybody know what the difference is between these 2 Singapore Math programs? I am considering them for my mathy 7th grader. He has spent this year working through RS Geometry and Key to Fractions and Decimals and Challenging Word Problems. It was sort of an odd-ball math year for him because he is ahead in math and I didn't want him to do algebra in 6th grade. Thanks for your help.
  23. I would like to better understand the concerns of those coming from Primary Math 6, to New Elementary Mathematics. I have read that the transition is often difficult. I would like to know specifically what the area(s) of difficulty is/are. Some guesses I have are: * material coverage gap * change in problem solving styles expected * style of presentation of books (from large print with cartoons to dense text?) I would truly like to understand this issue, as part of my effort to decide how to implement a math curriculum for my young children, specifically in how to direct their early primary math education to fit junior high school level expectations. Thank you!
  24. In response to a question about earning high school credits, our umbrella counselor mentioned that ds's Algebra work could not receive actual "Algebra I" course credit because "the text is not a high school level text". If any of the NEM books were called "Algebra I" or "Geometry", credit could be given, because it's assumed that any text with those titles would be high school level. I guess it's true that NEM 1-4 are labled for 7th-10th grade, but I always assumed that the algebra and geometry work taught was considered at least on the level of "regular" high school algebra and geometry texts. So what do you think? I'm allowed to give credit where I think credit is due, but if I have to fight them on this, I need something to give weight to my argument. Is there a chart anywhere that compares topics covered in NEM to traditional texts? FWIW, I was intending to give the following credits NEM 1 + Keys to Algebra = Algebra I NEM 2 + study of Euclids = geometry NEM 3 + Gelfands = Algebra II (I know they're not broken down that way, but I figured by the end of NEM 3 we'd have covered enough of everything to count as full credits.)
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