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  1. Hi There, I got on Plaid Dad's blog and see that it's been 2 yrs since his book was accepted. (right, Nov. 2006) I'm wondering, could you self-publish? We'd love to have a copy and I'm sure you'd sell a ton. I know that there are publishing companies that would be able to get it done pronto! I'm sure the people on this board would advertise for you! My dad had one of his books reprinted and it wasn't too bad, money wise. If that won't work, does anyone else have a Classical memory work system that they know of, that is in print?? One that fits with what the child should be/ will be learning?? Thanks! Carrie:-)
  2. I stumbled across this article that I saved in 2004 and thought I'd share it here. It's In Defense of Memorization by Michael Knox Beran, and it mentions Susan Wise Bauer's The Well-Educated Mind. Enjoy! Regards, Kareni
  3. So. My dd is finally into Ancient Egypt in SOTW 1 and I want to begin mem. work with her. (Surely her memory is good for something besides Veggie-Tale songs, odd made-up words, and Dr. Seuss so many times a day!) So, how do I do it? I've got the KF Encyclopedia. Do we just memorize the names in the lists or should we stick the dates in there with them, too? Are the dynasties important? What do you do? TIA! Mama Anna
  4. Do you use any kind of index card system for doing memory work? I remember a while back someone described a system that uses index cards, dividers, and a card box. It sounded so logical and simple to use. I've found the system from the Simply Charlotte Mason website: http://simplycharlottemason.com/timesavers/memorysys/ I was wondering, do any of you use a system that only has your family doing memory work for five days a week, instead of seven? Thanks!
  5. I use FLL Levels 1 and 2 with dd7, and ds10 used it at that age, too. They both memorized the parts of speech and other items in that book. Ds has gone through R&S 3 and 4, and is at the beginning of R&S 5. At one point, I thought he should continue to memorize grammar rules and definitions from R&S, too. So I started out with having him write down the "Remember" boxes from R&S 4 on a sheet of paper in his English notebook, but never had him actually memorize them. Then I quit having him do that partway through R&S 4. The reason I quit having ds write them down and never had him work on memorizing them, is that in further levels of R&S, I would find the same concepts written out in the "Remember" boxes, but with more sophisticated explanation. Which is appropriate as kids get older. And I also found that he was retaining the concept in general by doing the oral reviews in R&S. But I wondered what the use was of memorizing a "Remember" box rule or definition in the lower levels, if the wording of the concept was going to get more sophisticated as we went along, and he'd have to slightly change what he had memorized each year. I was afraid it would be too confusing to change the memory work slightly each year. I'm now starting to think it's important to have my kids memorize grammar rules, definitions, and lists (like helping verbs, prepositions, subject pronouns, etc.). Then, I read today in my WTM (logic stage grammar section) that kids should be memorizing these things (I hadn't noticed this before). So, if you have your kids do this type of work throughout their school years, how do you go about it, without the possible confusion I described above (R&S or otherwise)?
  6. This is something I'm working on now, after having my kids memorize the items in FLL 1 and 2. We use R&S for grammar study from Book 3 onward. I'm making colour-coded flashcards for grammar memory work. I just cut up file folders that I bought super-cheaply, and used whatever coloured pens I have in the house. First colour: grammar and writing term definitions (parts of speech, what a sentence is, what a paragraph is, what a predicate is, etc.) Second colour: grammar and mechanics rules (what parts are in a complete sentence, what punctuation to use for various types of sentences, etc.) Third colour: lists/charts (state of being verbs, helping verbs, possessive pronouns, adjectives that tell which, etc.) Fourth colour: oral and written composition rules (a paragraph must develop only one topic, use nouns and verbs that give a clear picture, be courteous and speak clearly, etc.) Starting with R&S 3, I'm going through the "Remember" boxes, extracting the info. in those, and putting it onto flashcards, with appropriately coloured pens. If needed, I separate the info. in the box onto appropriate flashcards, or re-word the info. to suit my kids' needs. For example, if there is a grammar definition plus a rule in the same "Remember" box, I will put the info. on separate cards with separate pen colours, depending on what category it belongs in. Also, if there is something in R&S 3 that is very similar to what is written on a card from FLL 1 and 2, I will skip it, since ideally it will already be memorized. Same thing if it happens in R&S 4. When there is new information about a previously learned concept in a "Remember" box, I will write up the new information for them to memorize. I'm working my way up to where my oldest is in R&S 5. I want to have my kids memorize this info. so they have an easier time studying higher level grammar and applying it to their writing. But I couldn't get myself to just have my kids memorize the "Remember" boxes - they seemed to me to be somewhat jumbled, and I needed to see a pattern. For me, it's easier to memorize/teach using patterns (that WTM has spoiled me - I love patterns!!). So, in thinking about it today, I realized that the info. in the "Remember" boxes could be broken down into those four categories I named (maybe there will be more when I get to higher books, but I'll cross that bridge later! :)). It seems easier now for me to understand and use all the good info. in R&S, and I'll be able to help my kids memorize the info. more easily now. Right now I'm thinking that I'll have them read the cards (that pertain to the R&S chapter they are studying) out loud each day. I also label the cards with the book I got the info. from, just so I know which ones I can use with which child. I may further sort the cards somehow, but haven't thought it through that far yet. For now, I'm just keeping them in the order in which they appear in the "Remember" boxes, since rules often follow definitions. Hope this helps someone! :) Or, if you have any more ideas to add, or if you see a potential problem with my system that I don't see, I'd be happy to hear your comments.
  7. for those of you who use a memory period. I have been listening to some VP lectures on Memory period and I am intrigued. I have 2 little guys that would just benefit so much from this. I think my 10 year old might be a little too far into the logic stage (make that sour pussed faced whenever dumb songs come on) BUT...maybe if I can make this REALLY fun, she will want to "play" along. My 3 oldest kiddoes are now graduated and my highschoolers course work is mostly doled out, so I can spend some fun time with these little guys who have had to take a back seat to the olders schooling for way too long. (but a Mom can only do what a Mom can do.) So, now I am excited and ready to begin this adventure once again....with my battle scars to help ease the way!!! Anyway...how do you do Memory time? How do you keep it organized? How do you make it fun? What resources do you have? Videos?, CD's? Maps? Do you use flip charts? I have so many ideas...but How do you implement them?? Any good teacher materials I don't know about? I have Poetry Memorization from IEW, School House Rock for Grammar, Lyrical life science, Wee sing Bible Songs, VP History and Bible songs, Phonics Museum, I am going to order Westminster Cathecism songs. Any other not to be missed songy or gamey type things?? How do you keep track and make sure to review what they already learned?? OK...Please Share ~~Faithe
  8. I like the idea of the scripture memory system and I found through Rose (dragons in the flower bed), the idea of using a folder instead of index cards. Now, the question is, what to memorize? I have a list of the Presidents; Kings and Queens of England; States and their capitols. What other things should we memorize, apart from bible verses. (Atheist family) Any ideas. This is our first time really putting an effort into memorizing stuff, so I would like to start out easy-ish at first.
  9. What things did you include in a first grade memory list? This is for my dd6 who loves memorizing and reciting. She can do a poem in one sitting, so I need a pretty aggressive list. (We agree with the "stuff-em-full-of-facts-while-memory-work-is-fun approach. ;)) I have a hymn a month, and a scripture passage a month (Psalm 23, Beatitudes, 10 Commandments, etc). I would like to include history lists (Pharoahs, Caesars, etc) and grammar lists (parts of speech, lists of helping verbs, etc) but I'm not sure what to include. Math facts, I guess? Geography facts? What should I include? Anything I'm missing? Also, where can I find sound files/songs for these lists? She learns very well this way, so I'm using a memory CD that we play each morning. TIA -
  10. This is something we always start ad then drop. I reread the section in WTM today @ memory work and it makes sense, but doing it is another thing. What if you have multi ages; do you have each child memorize specific things and/or group stuff?
  11. My oldest ds is a very auditory learner. I'm thinking about starting next year burning him a CD every week with the SOTW section, poems read aloud (probably by me, unless there is a Harp and Laurel Wreath CD?), any other memory work or literature selections. Does anyone do this? How does it work?
  12. We have never done memorization before (aside from songs, nursery rhymes and short verses) and I'm wondering how to begin with a 6 yr old and 5 yr old? What methods do you use?
  13. I often used to have my son memorize poetry. He especially enjoyed Bible, silly or historical poems. Sadly, we have gotten away from doing memorization of poetry. I am planning to restart this today. What are your favorite poems for memorization?
  14. I know memorization is good. My kids are in AWANA and doing tons of memory work with bible verses. I've been to a Classical Conversations meeting, and the amount of memory work my kids do pales in comparison to what they suggest. I've looked at getting CC's memory cards to try out, but I don't want to overwhelm my boys. What are your thoughts on so much memorization? Has anyone just done the CC cards and thought it was doable?
  15. Good morning! We are just starting the part of FLL where DD needs to memorize a list of prepositions (46 if I counted correctly). I wonder if anyone has used a song of some sort to teach the list? I think that would be very helpful to my DD (and me)! I did a quick Google search and see many options but not sure what others may have used. FWIW my DDs have the Audio Memory Geography songs and LOVE it (Mama doesn't, LOL). Perhaps their Grammar CD is just as good?
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