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  1. I was hoping to get some feedback on the barefoot ragamuffin curriculum. I'm in search of a new science and history program to use next year with my to-be 2nd and 4th graders. What are your thoughts/opinions on wayfarers and the Quark Chronicles? Are they complete? Are they typically used as a spine? From what I am reading on their website, they both sound like something I'd like, but I'd love some honest feedback from those of you who have actually used it. I'm also very curious about ELTL and RLTL. Are they to be used together? How does ELTL compare to Bravewriter...another program I am very interested in. Any thoughts, opinions, or how you use this curriculum in your homeschool would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
  2. Does anyone know of a timeline that spans creation to modern history that is already filled in for the wall? I’m ok if it takes up some space. I would just like a nice visual so as we read we can find whoever we might be reading about and see what was going on at that time. Any products like that out there? Thanks!
  3. I am trying to complete my fall plans. I was thinking about doing HOD Bigger for 3rd and HOD LHFHG for 1st, but I'm not so sure that will actually get done. My 1st grader is a slow learner with attention/focus issues. I am now considering combining them for Bible, History and Science. I will teach mainly to the 3rd grader, but my younger can "absorb what she will". My focus with her will be learning to read and intro to math. I would like to begin a history rotation starting at the beginning. I know that most people recommend Story of the World. I don't know exactly what it is that I don't like, but I just don't like it. So, I would love to hear some ideas about other curriculum options. My 3rd grader likes crafts so that would be a plus! Also, I don't want it to be overwhelming. The more clearly laid out for me - the better! I'm also open to any suggestions for Bible and Science. ;-) ETA - I've considered : Mystery of History - I love the looks of this, but I'm not sure if it's better for older age range. Biblioplan - This just looks so confusing. Way too many books/options! Sonlight - We tried Core B this year, and neither of us cared for the Usborne books. MFW Creation to Greeks - I'm guessing this is too advanced for 8 yo (3rd grader) Am I correct with these assumptions? or would one of these possibly work?
  4. I've just received the SOTW Vol.4, which we'll be using next year (I have to plan in advance because I live out of the country) and I've noticed that there are 42 chapters. I realize that prior volumes also have 42 chapters, but in the past volumes there were always a couple of chapters that were smaller in content, that I could combine into one week's worth of school time. But, I'm not seeing how to do that with Vol. 4? Each and every week looks comprehensive and I'm wondering how those currently studying in Vol. 4 are breaking up the curriculum to fit in their school year? Thanks in advance for your insight.
  5. Hi, I have looked over many options for middle/high school and have narrowed to two choices: Omnibus or Tapestry of Grace. I would like to one of them all the way through our remaining school years, we are currently nearing the end of elementary school. My goals are something with deep discussions, great books incorporated, yet still keep the love of learning. I am wondering about other's pro's/con's about these curriculums and their experiences. Did your kids find them too overwhelming or did they help foster a love of learning? Were you able to have meaningful discussions or did they just feel like facts recitations? Do you feel your kids were able to develop their own thoughts about the subject matter or was it just repeating what they were told in the guides?
  6. I have been using SOTW 1 with the AG for my 8yo son and even though I go over the comprehension questions and have him narrate and review with him, he's just not retaining anything from this book. I have even printed up and laminated review cards from the AG and he really doesn't remember the stories. I have used AO's year 1 stories and he did better. I am just so frustrated when it comes to finding something that is chronological and at a 2nd/3rd grade listening interest when it comes to history. SL and AO have great reading lists but I just don't have the time to read all day long. My son is doing a lot better on his reading but still needs me to read-aloud to him. i am looking for chronological history that uses real literature (not text books) that has a Christian slant and is not necessarily grade specific (meaning "1st grade", "2nd grade" etc.) I am not interested in unit studies because I don't have time to complete a bunch of projects. I also want continue implementing note booking (I have a lifetime membership to notebookingpages.com). I have been considering the Beautiful Feet Study guides but they don't have much for younger elementary. I have looked at SCM but it seems like it is really geared for kids that are older even though it says you can use it for K-12. I am thinking about tossing out the history spine and just using books from my collection and library that go in order more chronologically. The problem I have with that is always wondering if I am missing something. But with my son being young still, I'm thinking that it really won't matter because he will go over it later when he gets older. I guess I'm just looking for something that doesn't take so much time to do. Using a spine takes a lot of time because I first have to read the spine book, then I have to go find the other books to follow up so that the subject is remembered and enjoyed. Ugh. I want to have a variety of books (not just use history as literature reading) so as to not get burned out with the subject matter. I'd really appreciate your input. Thanks!
  7. Hi. I think my post about this got lost. I apologize if this is a repeat post. I've been really busy, too busy to participate in the forums as much as I'd like. I was wondering how you all teach Geography in first grade. Do you teach it alongside Ancient History? I thought about doing this, but it seems confusing to the child to be introduced to modern countries, flags and cultures at the same time that he's discovering history. I'm now leaning toward introducing our eldest to basic political geography first (countries, flags, languages, cultures, basic map work) like in the last two parts of the "Usborne Book of World Geography." Once he has a grasp of that, we're going to introduce history, so he figures out where and how it all started and how things came to be as they are now. We will save natural geography like weather, phenomena, etc. for the second year. How do you folks do it? We will also use the "Evan Moor Beginning Geography" workbook. Just ordered it. Another issue we have is how to teach U.S. history to make sure the kids meet annual testing requirements. Are children expected to know about U.S. government and history as early as first grade? If so, how do we teach history like in WTM? I'd prefer to just teach ancient history for now. We live in Washington State. Our eldest is 6 years old. Any advice would be most welcome!
  8. For some reason history seems to be the most difficult subject for me to feel at ease with. I've come to the conclusion that I need a "boxed" curriculum for history, as it just takes too much time and energy for me to put something together myself, or even choose from reading lists, so, I'm taking a serious look at Memoria Press (MP). I'm not planning on using anything else from MP at this time, but may consider doing so in the future. Actually, I'm looking at history for next year already, so I'll have a 6th, 5th, and 2nd grader then. This year we are studying US History as it was more important to me to have my children be familiar with the country in which they live before we go exploring the world. The year before we did go all the way through Greenleaf's Guide to Old Testament History, so I'm not particularly excited about starting with ancient history, or Egypt and the pyramids, etc. I wouldn't mind starting with Greece though. We're approaching our second year of homeschooling, so my children do not have a background in classical studies, and we're not set on that anyway, we're eclectic. My first questions is this: Would D'Aulaire's Book of Greek Myths along with the MP study guide be sufficient for an introduction, instead of getting their whole Introduction to Classical Studies package? (I have three years of high school Latin and one full year of classical studies in college in my past, so I'm comfortable with pronounciations, etc., and I'm not pushing Latin for my children, just a basics in derivatives and vocabulary I think is plenty - so is their book of roots sufficient for that? or is there a better option?) Next what are the main differences between their "Famous Men Studies" and their books by Dorothy Mills which start with "The Book of the Ancient World, Ancient Greeks, Ancient Romans...?" Are these two series of books separate tracks, or are they meant to work in conjunction with each other? If they are separate, which one is better and more interesting for children to follow? Also, is there enough geography work in either of these programs to not need their separate geography I or II course? Thank you for any input that you may have!
  9. Hello all! I have a rising young seventh grader and two older eighth graders next year. Their favorite subject over the last couple years has been Beautiful Feet Books History. I love the fact that it is literature based but sometimes feel that there is a lack of really focusing on specific important dates and clear map work. It weaves a great story and leaves the kids with a general sense of how history moved along and highlights of some of the important people. I began looking for something a little more intensive, shall we say. I am wondering if History Odyssey Early Modern level two would be the right fit. Does anyone have experience with History Odyssey (not Human Odyssey) and or both the programs I mentioned? I fear turning my history loving kids in history drudges :( Also that HO program is a bit more expensive than BFB... Any advice would be great! Thanks!!!
  10. (I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I didn't find anything with a quick search). So, I'm doing SOTW Vol 1 for the second time around with my 3rd grader and K'er. (First time for them). I also started SOTW Vol 3 with DD10 and I'm noticing the chapters are not exactly in chronological order which I'm finding very annoying. It seems more out of order than Vol 2. I don't know. Now, it's bothering me with Vol 1 as well. Has anyone reorganized the chapters to be taught in chronological order or is the way they are presented really the way that's going to make the best sense?
  11. We will be using (some of) SOTW 4 for history this year and was wondering if anyone has some good book suggestions for 3rd graders for the Modern History time period. The activity guide seems to have suggestions for slightly older kiddos. My girls read well, so I'm not so much looking for books on a 3rd grade reading level, but books with 3rd grade content. :) Any suggestions for any books in general for this time period would be great (even for the 6th grader)! :)
  12. We have done SOTW the past 4 years for 1st through 4th grade and loved it. I do feel like I am jumping off a cliff a bit with just using a history encyclopedia next year. We own The Kingfisher Illustrated History of the World but this is not one recommended in WTM. Does anyone know why? Is there a reason I should purchase one of the ones recommended in WTM instead of just using the kingfisher that I have?
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  14. I am contemplating mixing up DS's output requirements for high school literature and social studies so that he isn't only writing essays. I think I've read either here and/ or on the hs2coll group that others have done the same e.g. apart from literary analysis via essays, someone's DC made a map of a fictional world, another wrote fan fiction, etc. I hope I didn't dream that I read this lol. Some of the ideas DS and I discussed were designing a card game based on a series of books by a favorite author, creating a short film, recording an audiobook, writing up alternative endings etc. He will also write essays but it will not be the only thing he does. Have you done something like this? Were you able to do this for history as well as literature?
  15. *** OLD THREAD! *** I resurrected it to update with what we ended up doing; please do add to it if you have ideas about implementing SOTW4! Original Post begins here: I am using SOTW4 with A, and he really struggles with the comprehension questions. We read the encyclopedia selections first for background, and I have begun reading the SOTW4 activity guide questions to him before we read from SOTW4, but that doesn't make much difference; and to help with the reading itself we did the last assignment as paired reading, alternating reading paragraphs aloud to each other, and while he seemed to understand as we read he did not retain the information for the activity guide questions. When he doesn't know the information, I have him try to find it in the text; if he just can't locate it, I have him read aloud the pertinent paragraph in its entirety and then answer. That ALWAYS works. Is it worth sticking with the questions? Is this "normal" -- as in, just fine from a development and learning perspective? In the past I've adopted a practice of breaking the reading up into very short chunks and having A. narrate them, then expanding the length of sections. Maybe this would be best? it's probably my default next step ... TIA for thoughts! ETA -- this child has always had trouble processing history. It just doesn't make much sense to him, he's a STEM-y kind of guy. This is improving with age and experience :) but the comprehension challenges are pretty much limited to the history domain, in other topics he does what I'd expect.
  16. This is my second time through the Story of the World and it's coming to a close. My younger two children (ages 10 & 8) just don't have the knack for history narrations that my oldest (12), who has more of a natural inclination toward the subject, mustered (back when I was more of a dragon mom!), so I'd like to conclude the series in a different way - I want it to be more fun and literature based, since that is what they enjoy most (in addition to any kind of art). I am finally ready to give up the activity guide - it's been a good tool, but due to my perfectionistic tendencies (which my children also have), it has been my master instead of the other way around, so it's time to cut the cord and move on to a new approach. My question is...what curricula do people enjoy that either use SOTW 4 - Modern Times - as a spine or incorporated into it, preferably in chapter order (I'm kind of a stickler for that)? I have always read the book aloud as we sat on the couch together (which has been great) but since we are going to be in the car more often this coming year, I am thinking of switching to the audio CD. Perhaps that's all we'll do with it, but before I decide that, I'd like to look at the programs that use SOTW (I know they are legion, lol). I am drawn toward unit studies but that might conflict with my allegiance to chronological order. For a while, I've been curious about Diana Waring's curriculum. Also Biblioplan. I'm going to start researching (and digging up all my pinterest pins!), but to save myself some time, I wanted to ask here first... I have been so thankful for the WTM since it got me started on this path six years ago, but I find myself diverging a lot more now that I have experience, and while still considering myself a classical homeschooler, I want to explore other approaches to that (e.g., Charlotte Mason, Classical Academic Press curricula) and adapt them to what works for our family, as well as being eclectic (e.g., unit studies) rather than striving to adhere to one method (despite having gone off in other directions with math and science - somewhat - along the way). (I tried TOG once...after getting all fired up at a conference...it was not for us - too intensive/complicated)
  17. Hi there! I am deliberating between TOG Yr 2 and SOTW Vol 2 next year for my upcoming 2nd grader and kindergartener. We have used TOG Year 1 this year, but with SOTW Vol 1 as the spine. The kids have really enjoyed and retained a lot from the hands-on projects, but of all the reading we've done, SOTW has definitely been the most enjoyable. I already have TOG Year 2, and I'm looking through it and noticing both that SOTW 2 doesn't seem to be scheduled much (which is disappointing) but also noticing that the 2nd-year scope of the curricula seem very different. I'm trying to decide which to use for next year - TOG year 2 or SOTW Vol 2? Here are some considerations.... 1. I definitely want to use TOG at the higher grades, and planned to use it for this first cycle so I myself could get used to the planning. However... 2. SOTW is simpler, and my kids have definitely liked it. Simpler is starting to sound more appealing, at this stage where I have one barely independent reader and most subjects are still being done orally with both kids, which is a lot of hands-on investment of my time with each kid each day. (We're also using RightStart math, which I LOVE, but which is time-intensive.) More planning might be easier when we've hit the point where I can hand off assignments and check in, instead of hovering over shoulders all day. (Is it real that there will be a day when I can hand off assignments and check in? That seems like a fairy tale. But I digress.) With SOTW, I can incorporate some hands-on projects from the activity guide, and bam - history's done, versus more planning and more book juggling with TOG. For 2nd grade, it might just be easier to do what's...easy. 3. Can anyone speak to the differing scopes of the two curricula? TOG 2 seems like it's a lot of Church history, and it ZIPS through the Middle Ages awfully fast. It goes all the way from the fall of Rome to the Constitution, and to me, that seems like a lot to cover in one year. It almost seems like, at my kids' ages, more time on the Middle Ages and Renaissance might be preferable to a lot of Church history, which they might not really appreciate until they're a bit older? Or am I wrong about the TOG scope? Have you who've used it found that TOG Year 2 works well for the younger ages? Will we be missing something if we go with SOTW? 4. Finally, because of the difference in scope, it seems that whatever I use this year, I'll need to use next year as well. So the decision feels big...although I'm starting to learn the homeschooling lesson that consistency means more than having the "perfect" curriculum. Sorry for all of my rambling, and thank you very much for your thoughts! :)
  18. Hi, I am looking for a book that has a history of science with experiments that illustrate the principles for 4-8th grade age. Something like the Readers Digest How things Work books . Is there a book out there like this? Thank you!
  19. I am thinking about taking next year to focus primarily on early US history (Colonies to the Gold Rush) with my middle school kids. What world history events and people do I HAVE to make sure to cover so that they are prepared when we go back to world history the following year (US Civil War to the present)? Thank you! :001_smile:
  20. Hi all, I knew you'd want to know that we're offering two brand-new audio lectures by Susan Wise Bauer, recorded at homeschooling conferences: Burning Out: Why it Happens and What to do About it Every home school family finds itself in the doldrums occasionally. But when the doldrums last for weeks or months, it’s time to consider the possibility of burnout. In this seminar--drawn from years of personal experience with effective home education and burnout--Susan defines burnout, investigates the elements that make burnout more likely, and offers a series of practical, experience-tested suggestions for moving forward. and What is History? How and Why Should I Teach It? Choosing the right program isn’t the first step in teaching history to your students. Before you can make informed decisions about what curricula to use, you need to understand why you’re teaching history at all--and define what your student should be gaining from it. This seminar will explain what history actually is (you might be surprised!), survey different methods and approaches for teaching, and suggest appropriate goals for elementary, middle-grade, and high school students. Both are now available as MP3 downloads, along with all of our other lectures.
  21. Okay, so I've tried posting a couple of times with no response to questions about Read With the Best. Has ANYBODY used the program? I would love to hear some feedback and to know what you used alongside of it for history. If anyone has found another American Literature based wrting program I'd love to hear about that as well. Thanks so much!!! Debbie :bigear:
  22. My 6th grade dd is begging to do American history. She needs a little accommodation from us due to mild general academic malaise. She has above-average reading ability (albeit reluctant). We'd like an affordable, one semester, ability-appropriate survey with a biblical perspective. She has enjoyed MOH vol. 1 format, and the Heroes biographies by the Benges. Has anyone used Christian Liberty Press' "Exploring American History"? It seems to fit the bill. http://www.shopchristianliberty.com/exploring-american-history-second-edition/
  23. Hello, all. I'm new here and have a concern as I plan for next year. I'm sure this topic has been visited many times so forgive me for redundancy if it's an old tune. I have 4 girls who are currently in 8th, 6th, 4th and 1st. I am starting to plan for next year and am getting very nervous about a few things, especially writing. My eldest spent grades 4 - 6 in PS, where everything came very easy for her, and she did not have much intentional instrucion in grammar or writing. I have not been as successful in writing instruction at home as I'd like the last 2 years, and my dd has not really ever had to write a real paper. We are using a writing curriculum that I do not think is rigorous enough, and I am beginning to look at Writing with Skill, and Power in Your Hands for next year. My fear is that my dd is very behind in writing skill development. She is a very bright student, but her work ethic is very lacking, largely due to her experience in PS, and I have health issues that keep me from being as diligent on follow-through as I need. THe combo has left me feeling like I am really hurting my dd's (and the others, too!) academic development. We are switching to Biblioplan for history next year (Ancients) and had planned to use their lit sources as my dd's lit course. But I learned about 2 programs yesterday that seem really good and seem to focus on writing instruction as part of their program: Lightning LIterature and Excellence in Literature. ANd after looking at THOSE, I'm all confused again about how best to help my dd develop her writing, and thinking skills without putting too much burden on her with too many different separate subjects. One of my concerns is TOO MUCH writing if I use BP's writing assignments, and a writing curriculum, in addition to trying to develop the ability to write a paper on a piece of literature. . . I know all of that will not happen, and I want to give her the most bang for her buck in terms of instruction and integration. Thank you in advance for any thoughts you may have!
  24. Has anyone here used CTY for AP US History. Dd is considering this for a class but they have not been willing to either share the class syllabus or give us any indication of the type, number and frequency of assignments and assessments. Does anyone have any insight so we can decide if this is a good fit? Thanks!!
  25. We are planning to use the time travelers wwII study. We did parts of the civil war study a couple years ago and I was a little overwhelmed. After completing day 1 of the wwII study, I wondered if anyone sticks to the schedule provided and if so, do you drop some other work to make time? I like the activities, and want to supplement the text with several other sources (Hakim and Jennings), add some literature and picture books, movies, etc., but I am not sure how to make time for all of this. Maybe I should just stretch it out over a couple months, but that might feel like a lot of ww2! I'd love to hear how others have approached this. Thanks in advance!
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