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  1. So, for a non-gifted-in-geometry sort of guy, is it the general consensus that Jacob's provides the best textbook approach to geometry? And if so, what edition, please? I'm looking at various options for video teaching to go along with this, too, and see the Callahan CD's.... Then there's VideoText - but is their one year geometry program a total of SIX modules, as opposed to 3 each for Algebra I and II? It seems very, very expensive! I'm wondering what the best way will be to cover geometry comprehensively, but inexpensively.... I've already googled for past threads on this, but still don't have a clear idea about the questions I've posed, by the way.... Thanks,
  2. My son has set forth a challenge. Part of it involves learning some Geometry. Me, I like algebra, Geometry is not my strong point. Ds has jumped ahead and decided he'd like to learn geometry in his spare time. :001_huh: (is this my child?!) I'll be learning with him. We'd also like to throw in some Euclidean Geometry. However, I'm not sure how much is relevant and how it is different than modern geometry. I did find an online source here. http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/java/elements/toc.html and would like to buy a printed copy, but how many of the books do we need to focus on?
  3. Thought I'd have my son do some polishing up on Geometry and Algebra I this summer before jumping into Algebra II, so I bought the Key to Geometry and Key to Algebra series for him. Key to Geometry, as he would put it, was basically drawing. No proofs or anything. It was nothing like his Geometry book (Chalkdust/Houghton Mifflin) What a complete waste of money. Just wanted to warn everyone not to buy it. The Algebra books seem helpful, though. At least that.
  4. After much discussion, my DH and DS have talked me into letting DS try AoPS Geometry this year for 9th grade. DS says that he wants to learn by discovery and DH says the boy just needs more challenge. My doubts remain. However, I found a used set for a good price and that decided it for me... for now. =) I think there is a good chance that this won't work for us. For that reason in particular, I would like to have a good, reasonable schedule that accomplishes the class in an academic year. This, I hope, will give me benchmarks so I will know if I need to pull the plug and move to something easier. Preferably, we can make that move before we have lost too much of the current year. I *really* don't want to do summer math again. Does anyone have a schedule that they have used? As I look at AoPS, some lessons seem much easier than others, so I am hesitant to just "peanut butter smear" the sections across the year. Do you feel that the difficulty is evenly paced? Or weighted more towards the beginning, middle, or end? I appreciate your help, Thanks, Sandra
  5. I know some start in 8th grade or below- regardless of the grade started, what is the best sequence for math? Sequence 1- More traditional Algebra 1 Geometry Algebra 2 Pre-Calc Calc OR Sequence 2- I have been told this is best Algebra 1 Algebra 2 Geometry Pre-Calc Calc Why do you feel one is better than the other? TIA
  6. Hello Ladies, I have not posted on these boards for several years. I do lurk though, and glean from the wealth of imformation available here. I am in the process of choosing a geometry curriculum and am considering using Derek Owens. I have found a little information on the boards, but not much. I was wondering if there was anyone who has used this particular course that could tell me a little more about it. I know he has his own workbooks that he uses with the course, I wondered how those were implemented into the program. Thank you for your help, ~Layne
  7. My ds is finishing up Foerster's Algebra. He has worked through it independently this year, after a rough start with Life of Fred and Aleks Algebra. What would be a good geometry program for a kid who "got" Foerster's Algebra? I'm really looking for a textbook with a solutions manual. Geometry was my favorite math in high school so I think I can handle any problems that come up provided the help requests are occasional and not constant. Discovery Geometry and Jacobs seem popular. He will probably end up going to college for a technical or science degree, so we do need a strong program. Thanks for your suggestions! Sandra
  8. I am thinking about getting my ds 11 RightStart Geometry (intermediate math - I guess it is called now) He started out with RightStart math. He completed levels A - C and then went on to Singapore Math and has just completed 6A. I know that Right Start does some things very differently that traditional math and I am curious if he will have trouble with the RightStart approach to geometry since he didn't do levels D or E.... Anyone have any helpful thoughts about this idea? Thanks!
  9. What type of student gets A grades in Jacobs Geometry? I ask this because my ds is pretty good at math, but Jacobs is kinda unique for the usual good-at-math student. It's not just math problems with math answers. And I don't just mean the proofs. Jacobs forces kids to come along his way of thinking, and he teaches part of the lesson during the problem sets. At times, there is the domino theory, where misunderstanding the first part of a problem leads to everything being wrong (I've talked with Mr. Jacobs about this, and granted he does try to minimize it). Therefore, it seems almost impossible for a student to get everything right. It seems impossible for an A math student to get all A grades. If you have an A student in Jacobs, can you describe the child to me? What traits do I need to foster in my son??? I really think this journey can help my son in the loooong run; I really think he needs Jacobs. But I'm trying to tutor him through the short run. I find it best to correct alongside my son and discuss why he chose to answer as he did, and often he has a reasonable take on things. He usually improves a lot by the chapter test (which is the only thing I really count). But I'd like to see him get an A, or at least expect to get an A, or think it was possible to get an A :tongue_smilie: Julie
  10. What can you tell me about Patty Paper Geometry? If you have used it, at what ages and how? As a full course? As a supplement?
  11. Is this appropriate for 8th grade math? DD is doing Pre-Algebra this year but I am debating on Algebra 1 next year or Patty Paper Geometry along with a consumers type math for a year. Any thoughts?
  12. We are presently using NEM and are very happy with it. However, I am concerned about not covering algebra and geometry thoroughly enough for my child to be college ready. Will it be enough or should I find a stand-alone algebra and geometry program to go alongside the NEM?
  13. I'm trying to decide about geometry for next year and was all set to use Jacobs until I just discovered Teaching Textbooks. Now I'm having a hard time deciding. Here's our situation. Last year, my husband was teaching our 15- and 13-year-olds algebra, but a move and job change later, he doesn't have the time. Also, they only got halfway through the book last year. I did well in geometry in college a million years ago (the only course I had to take as a French major), but math in high school was my nemesis, and I just struggled through algebra the whole time. Anyway, long story short, I am no help with their algebra. My 13-year-old gets it pretty well (with some help from Grandma), but it takes him a good 2 hours every day. My 15-year-old goes to him for help. She frequently and he occasionally end up in tears of frustration over it, but we should manage to finish it this year, and they will have made great strides not only in the knowledge of algebra but also in perseverance, assuming we all survive. All that said, is anyone able to compare and recommend Jacobs or the Teaching Textbook Geometry given our situation? Does anybody not like TT? I only find very positive things said about it. I just wish it didn't cost so very much. :bigear:
  14. Looking for geometry that's on a bit slower track or is a bit less rigorous, for a dd who has learning issues. High school geometry is probably high school geometry, but is there a book that's maybe simpler/easier to approach b/c of maybe its visual qualities, or maybe a slower pace? If you know of anything, I'd appreciate hearing about it. If I don't get any recommendations, I think I'll just pick whatever seems best and just go slower. Thanks so much!!
  15. My almost 10 yo ds WANTS to do geometry. I was originally thinking that was a high school subject..but now I have heard some programs say earlier is better. He is currently in Singapore 5A. What are the prerequisites for geometry? Some good programs for his age? TIA!
  16. We have struggled through Saxon Alg. 1 this year with the help of the Saxon Teacher cd. I'm not much help to my dd. I think she needs more practice with new concepts instead of the spiral way Saxon is. Teaching Textbooks seems to be liked, but some of the reviews I read say it is behind. Does that mean she wouldn't be prepared for the SAT? Mathusee is another option. I think that would fit learning style and the DVD's would be helpful. Saxon has a new geometry text that a Saxon Teacher CD will be available for in May. DD is interested in going to college and majoring in Pre-Law and going on to law school. She isn't going into a math field. Vickie
  17. My 7th grade ds is currently using Saxon Alg. 1, not by choice, but because he is enrolled with Seton for math. We are in the process of deciding whether he should take Geometry at the local high school next year or just continue at home. If we were to keep him at home, I would want to enroll him with Seton for geometry. The book they use is McDougall Littell Geometry by Ray Jurgensen, Richard Brown and John Jurgensen c. 2000. http://www.amazon.com/dp/0395977274?tag=schildnet0c&link_code=as3&creativeASIN=0395977274&creative=373489&camp=211189 I don't ever remember seeing this book mentioned on these boards before, so I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts, pros/cons, on it. TIA
  18. Been debating with hubby on this one. He says chemistry was hard for him in high school. He and Grandma both suggest I wait 'til 11th grade to offer Chemistry to son. I am noting in the local ps and with stuff like Apologia or BJU, they suggest to do Chemistry with Geometry. Son will be in 10th grade next year. So far, he is doing well in Algebra I with a 95% average. I realize the leap from Biology (this year's science) to Chemistry is big with more memorization and labs. Son has dysgraphia and is Asperger's. He enjoys Science and is bright. But is waiting 'til 11th grade a disadvantage? Help. Anyone who has done Chemistry please advise. Would like to know all POV on all angles. We are leaning to a coop Chemistry class next year. My only concern is we will be meeting 1x a week for labs. I have a feeling they will offer Apologia. (I am not thrilled with it -- but do not have a choice at this point) My only other option is to outsource an Integrated Chemistry & Physics (ICP) class 2x a week with another coop that uses BJU Press material and supplements. My concern is having son keep up with the pace of a coop class -- but it needs to be done. Life skills, kwim?
  19. What say you?? Suggestions, please? This is for next year for my dd13 (then 8th grade). She's great at math, but she likes to be right all the time and is accustomed to things coming easily to her. (We're doing AoPS for the first time this spring, so we might fix that, lol.) Thinkwell has been a good fit for her, but they don't offer Geometry. . . Things I'm considering. . . AoPS's Geometry (with or without the online course) LoF Geometry * If I go with AoPS Geometry, we might take an extra 6 mos to do Number Theory first, just for fun and to fill time (no rushing needed here). . . presuming dd likes AoPS which I would assume would have to be the case if we were to choose AoPS Geometry after taking AoPS Counting & Probability!! I am not a Saxon fan. What else should I investigate?? Am I missing sth great? I am looking for sth solid, rigorous, challenging. Well presented (ideally with a DVD or online like TW, but I haven't seen anything like that). Her math background includes: Miquon & Singapore for primary math Key To Alg (first few books) Thinkwell Intermediate Alg (finishing in early Feb; A student) This spring, we'll be using Art of Problem Solving Counting & Probability. TIA!!!!!
  20. No I don't need to know now :smilielol5: but I sure like to have an idea of what works. :D Heather
  21. Hi, I'm new to this web site-not new to homeschooling. I have a 9th grader this year that I enrolled in the public school. (I know, I know many of you will think that is the worst thing, but it is what we decided to do.) I did Singapore Math and supplemented with Saxon, then Teaching T. Algebra 1. The high school is using CPM-College Prep Math. Does anyone know anything about this program? It has mixed reviews on line and seems to be very wordy, not a lot of practice. I would like to supplement but cannot afford TT. I have read on this forum that some of you like Lial's. What is that? What else could I use???? Also, I liked TT but it seems many here do not. I would like to start with TT Algebra for my other kids (grade 6 now) for 7th grade, then have them repeat Algebra for 8th. I'm now thinking that I should use a different program for 8th grade, that would go into more depth, then hopefully they will fully grasp Algebra. Of course, I have 1 dd that may never grasp math, but we will try to get her through it. My other son is a math wiz. Has anyone used Kineticbooks??? Any help would be great!! Sharon
  22. How does it work for transcripts to take high school level classes before 9th grade? I'm wondering about this in general, but I'm also thinking specifically about Latin taken before 9th and Algebra I taken in 8th grade. ETA: I just read some of the "similar threads" listed below about Latin credits. My question is assuming that the Latin taken prior to 9th would constitute high school level work, such as a high school level course taken in 8th grade or a high school level course spread out over 7th & 8th grades. Do colleges truly only want to see what the dc have taken in 9th - 12th grades, or do they want to see what high school level courses they've taken period, no matter what age? Do ps kids get to count some 8th grade work towards high school (like they're able to receive some college credits in high school)? Thanks!
  23. What would you do with this child? She's a sophmore and we're doing Geometry. She's never been a math person and everything seems to go over her head. We started this year doing Jacob's Geometry and it was so far above her that we switched to Teaching Textbooks. I thought having someone else do the lectures and having the solutions worked for her would help. Evidently it didn't. Where do I go from here? I feel like a failure. She just doesn't understand math. I don't mind giving her an extra of year of high school if we need to. I just don't know where to turn. Any suggestions? .(Does it help to say that I don't get Geometry either? I love Algebra, Trig, etc but Geometry ........) Ya'll listen to my struggles with her for years now. What do you do with a child who wants to go to college but just doesn't understand math? thanks, Melissas
  24. I'm looking for a geometry program geared to a right-brained learner. Right now he is doing Jacob's Algebra - slowly, but thoroughly. I have Jacob's Geometry, which my very math adept son is using currently, but I'm wondering if there is something better out there for a right-brainer. While I want him to do some proofs, I don't think he could abide a proof-intensive approach. I've listened/looked at TT online and don't think it's a good option for this son. Any other programs out there that I should investigate?
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