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  1. Since there is no Lial's Geometry, we are considering moving to Jacobs after we finish Algebra 1. I see that it has been republished by My Father's World. Has anyone used it? Is there any reason to spend more when I can get a used copy on Amazon? I had been considering trying the Dr. Callahan program. I am not even sure that we will need anything other than the text and Solutions Manual, though. My son is working through Lial's independently and he seems to like that approach.
  2. Both kids want to go deeper into Mandelbrot, Julia sets, Mandelbulb and fractals in general. Can't find many books on geometry in general in the library. They have liked Gems of Geometry and Beautiful Geometry. ETA: Also anyone with experience in the Mandelbulb software or other fractal software? Kids like the Fractoid software on the Kindle but it can crash. I'm down to one working laptop so I don't wish to crash that. ETA: links we have looked at Fractal geometry (Yale) Fractal Foundation activites Fractal projects for geometry students Mandelbulb http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/notebooks/rucker_mandelbulb_ver7_sept24_2009.pdf
  3. I'm liking/leaning towards using this textbook for my 9th grader next year. I contacted Morton Publisher and received a reply that it is now out of print, they are no longer distributing it. Does anyone know where I can get a better deal than $141 used on Amazon? Abe Books is about $145. Frustrating when you've finally narrowed it down to one book, but it is ridiculously expensive!
  4. I've read conflicting information about the geometry classes. Some posts give the impression that parents are required to grade the proofs. When I read the website, that doesn't seem to be the case. Would anyone care to share experiences? I'm trying to decide between Derek Owens (Jacobs 3rd edition) and Duke Tip Geometry (Jurgensen). My daughter plans to take physics through Derek Owens in the fall. The DO geometry and physics combo seems to be popular. I would be grateful to hear thoughts and experiences from those who have used both. Thanks! ETA: I've added Wilson Hill to the title since I'm now considering it as well.
  5. My freshman daughter (who is NOT a fan of math) is currently going through Geometry: A Guided Inquiry along with the Math Without Borders Home Study Companion. She started in December after finishing Foerster for Algebra 1 & it seems to me that it's going really slowly so I'm considering getting something else for her to use. Basically, I want something that she can do on her own and that will prepare her well for standardized tests. I'd love for her to be done by December of this year so that she can get started on Algebra 2. At this point, I'm considering Teaching Textbooks or Thinkwell. She does not tend to be math intuitive & I don't know that she'll make leaps on her own. She's going through the Cothran logic books in an online class this year so logic is being thoroughly covered there.
  6. I have purchased the Foerster Algebra I text and solution manual along with Math Without Borders Flash drive. Planning for DD 12 will start this spring. I am wondering about the geometry and or algebra program from MWB. Can anyone comment? I will add, 1) I have no algebra or geometry personal experience 2) This is a supplement to the algebra and geometry she will take in public school. Thank You
  7. (cross-posting on various sub-forums) Hi everyone, I'm not related to the author and do not profit from passing this information on. We used PPG off and on (mostly unschooled) when DS was younger and I had reviewed it briefly on my blog. The author found the link and contacted me with this message: ------------------------------------ Thank you for your blog. Just a note to let you know that Patty Paper Geometry was returned to me after Key Curriculum Press was sold to McGraw Hill http://www.michaelse...geometry-1.html We also have a series: Developing Mathematical Reasoning with Games and Puzzles. The first book is Smart Moves and is about sequential reasoning http://www.michaelse...mart-moves.html The second book is Pirate Math which is about transformational geometry on a coordinate plane http://www.michaelse...irate-math.html Sincere regards, Michael Serra retired math teacher
  8. (cross-posting on various sub-forums) Hi everyone, I'm not related to the author and do not profit from passing this information on. We used PPG off and on (mostly unschooled) when DS was younger and I had reviewed it briefly on my blog. The author found the link and contacted me with this message: ------------------------------------ Thank you for your blog. Just a note to let you know that Patty Paper Geometry was returned to me after Key Curriculum Press was sold to McGraw Hill http://www.michaelserra.net/weblog/patty-paper-geometry-1.html We also have a series: Developing Mathematical Reasoning with Games and Puzzles. The first book is Smart Moves and is about sequential reasoning http://www.michaelserra.net/weblog/smart-moves.html The second book is Pirate Math which is about transformational geometry on a coordinate plane http://www.michaelserra.net/weblog/pirate-math.html Sincere regards, Michael Serra retired math teacher
  9. Is this the One Stop Planner everyone using Holt 2007 Geometry recommends? And will it work with Windows 7? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_software?_encoding=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=Holt%20One%20Stop%20Planner&node=229534 Thank you!
  10. Hi we are using this book: School Mathematics Geometry and I had a question about one of the problems in chapter 2. Is anyone else using this book? I don't have the answer key and I don't think it is available online. This book itself may be out of print. I am using it because I used it myself and liked it and so far my dd likes it too. But some of the questions are a bit ambiguous and it would be helpful to find out what the authors had in mind or just to compare notes with someone else who has used it.
  11. I'm looking into algebra 2 for my student and found a curriculum that stated that some prior geometry knowledge would be necessary. My daughter has not done geometry yet. Is this par for the course with algebra 2 curriculum, or somewhat of an anomaly? Thank you
  12. Another member just informed me about new math classes at www.clrchomeschool.com. We just finished their summer Shakespeare class and had a great experience with the teacher and its format. For those interested, here's an email from Lisa Angle after I asked about the books used and specifically about geometry. More information can be found here, http://www.clrchomeschool.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=99&Itemid=294
  13. I was wondering, I used Saxon for my older daughter up through advanced math. She then took Calc. at the local cc and did well. As a senior this year she will take calc 2. at CC. She likes math! The question lies with my younger daughter. She is not as into math. I am also using Saxon with her, but she has not yet finished Algebra 1. We will finish it halfway through her 9th grade year this upcoming year. I had planned to then start Saxon Alg. 2 and then carry on through Advanced Math as with her sister but finishing by the end of her senior year, so not at such an advanced pace. I am hearing some buzz that CA UC schools want to see a separate year of Geometry now. Is this true? (Not sure that is where she would be going but it is a possibility). Also, since she is not so mathy I wonder if a different track would be better? If I did decide to do a separate Geometry, I was wondering what Geometry texts people would recommend if not using Saxon. Of course I would also like to know what would be recommended for Alg. 2 and Trig. after that if possible. Thank you.
  14. I have used Saxon for all of our homeschooling career, and both of my oldest two have gotten really bogged down especially when we hit Algebra 1. The oldest would spend hours and hours and hours getting overwhelmed by how much work there was. We tried Teaching Textbooks, but he panicked when it was so easy, because he wanted to be prepared for public school in high school. By his choice, we (painfully) finished Saxon, and he hit public school and has had a wonderful math experience. He's good at it, and has had very little homework, yet has done very well on the county's supposedly very rigorous tests. We've thought a lot about the fact that he was able to do so well with minimal homework (his first two teachers commented that they only believe in enough homework to achieve mastery-- he hated Saxon, but loved public school math), but also wondered if he's done well because of the rigorous preparation Saxon has given. In any case, my homeschooled just-finished-9th grade daughter has just completed Algebra 1 and is about 30 lessons into Saxon geometry, and while she isn't so math resistant as he was at home, Saxon math takes her so long to teach herself the concept and do it that she is getting further and further behind our math goals. This is in large part due to the fact that she has rigorous homework with deadlines for outside teachers, so spending hours on math each day isn't practical. Yes, public school is an option, but there are definite trade-offs at our school. At the moment, signing her up for a outside class isn't an option, but may be in future years. I feel like Saxon math is kind of math 'insurance' for me-- I know it is thorough and rigorous, but getting further and further behind is not sustainable for us. Does anyone have any suggestions for curriculums that will prepare her well without quite so much time investment? Teaching Textbooks should take less time, but I'm concerned about its ability to prepare her for standardized tests, college, etc. Is it still the best bet? What are your experiences? Is it possible to be well prepared with a little less time each day? Anyone have experience with Math-U-See? Part of the problem is how long (even with Saxon's teacher DVD roms) it takes her to understand the concept. I'd love to have something solid that has video teaching directed at her, not at me. Thanks for any advice you have to offer! SaraLyn
  15. I did Alg I, Geom, Alg II many years ago when I was in high school, but I don't know if that sequence is really the best-any thoughts? We use Kinetic Books and the Geometry program is not out yet, so I'm wondering if we could do Algebra II next year (10th), then Geometry (11th), then Precalc or college algebra at cc for 12th. Are there any hard and fast reasons/rules for doing it one way or the other? Thanks by the way, he is not a math/science guy and will not be pursuing a degree in those areas. much more lit/history minded
  16. My 6th grader is finishing up Jacobs' Algebra this year, so we want him to move ahead with Geometry next year. I'm considering the Duke TIP course, and I'd like to know if anyone has used it. I bought Jacobs' Geometry AND the Jurgensen text the TIP course uses. The TIP course is appealing, because I'd like to have a little more interaction with him on the topics. When I tried working through the Jacobs lessons with him, it was just kind of annoying and slowed him down, but now we have very little interaction, except for corrections, so our interactions are frustrating. Basically, I'm leaning toward TIP/Jurgensen, but I'd love to hear other options. He needs something that is challenging and proof-intensive. He doesn't have trouble grasping math concepts at all. Thanks!
  17. I'm still needing help choosing Geometry for my to-be 11th grader, for next year. Any opinions on Teaching Textbook v2? My son found the first version to be not very helpful when he took the ACT. Is the 2nd version better? Jacobs Geometry? I'm not a maths person, nor is my daughter, and we can't do videos unless they're on disc, because our rural internet is on satellite, so we can only download videos between midnight and 5 a.m., when they won't negatively impact our monthly bandwidth allowance(yes, this really is as much of a pain as it sounds like it would be). Thank you! Desiree
  18. Any recommendations for Algebra II and Geometry? My dd is currently doing Algebra (from Keyboard Enterprises) with a tutor. She doesn't really like the dvd portion of this curriculum much ( finds his explanations unhelpful, plus he doesn't show specific solutions to the problems), which is unfortunate because it is such a major portion of the program. My son used TT geometry, but wasn't crazy about it. He got on better w/ KE Algebra II than my dd is doing w/ Algebra I. Khan Academy isn't really a good option for us because we're rural and on satellite internet with bandwidth restrictions that videos generally blow out of the water :sad: . So...any experiences you all have to share with various Algebra II and Geometry curriculums would be great. I'm considering having her do both next year. Thanks!
  19. Wondering what the difference is between: Jacob's Geometry (3rd Ed) used in conjunction with Ask Dr. Callahan DVDs. Chalkdust Geometry DVD set used with the '95 traditional Heath textbook (set) * Which DVD teacher is better? Style of teaching? * Heath textbook vs Jacob's textbook? * Which answer key is easier to use with a clear line by line explanation of how to get the correct answer?? ;) LOL * Support is better with which company? Thanks!!
  20. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations for logic for a "7th grader" who's had some contact with logic through Jacobs Geometry, a local class on critical thinking, an informal logic on Coursera.org called "Think Again: How to Reason and Argue" https://www.coursera.org/course/thinkagain, and some other miscellaneous materials. My son likes thinking deeply about subjects, especially with age-appropriate prompts, but really doesn't like filling out a lot of worksheets. The Well-Trained Mind (3rd edition) recommends the book and videos by Martin Cothran "Traditional Logic I." http://www.amazon.com/dp/1930953100/ref=rdr_ext_tmb Has anyone had experience with this or other logic materials which might be appropriate for us? Thanks!
  21. We plan to use Jacobs Geometry next fall for our soon to be 10th grade DD. Has anyone used the DVD's or taken classes taught by either Derek Owens or Dr Callahan? If so, would you mind sharing what you liked/disliked about your experience? I really don't want to make another expensive math mistake! Thanks.
  22. Hi, Has anybody used the book "String, Straight-edge, & Shadow" book and made lesson plans to gowith this book?
  23. I have a three different sources of homework assignment pages for Jacobs Geometry. Some do not include or schedule the following chapters for study or homework: Jacobs Chapter 13: Concurrence Theorems -- Triangles and Circles, Cyclic Quadrilaterals, Incircles, The Centroid of a Triangle, Ceva's Theorem, Napoleon's Discovery and other Surprises Jacobs Chapter 16: Non-Euclidean Geometries -- Geometry on a Sphere, The Saccheri Quadrilateral, The geometries of Lobachevsky and Riemann, The Triangle Angle Sum Theorem Revisited Are these topics normally covered in high school geometry? If not, are they eventually covered in another math course? Do you think these topics are important or interesting? (Important for certain fields of study, follow-on courses, and/or standardized testing. Interesting as they tie topics together, extend thinking?) My dd, 16, would like to "finish" geometry and move on to Algebra II. But if these topics are really interesting or important I want to make sure I cover them. Thank you!
  24. Any recommendations? I am looking for explorations in the physical world (pencil and paper are fine; computer isn't.) Many thanks in advance!
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