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  1. Do you typically use FLL 1 with first grade, level 2 with second grade and so on? It seemed like that's what I've read others do. Also, would it be too much of a stretch to try to do level 4 with a fourth AND sixth grader? Should I just look for something else for the sixth grader? Thanks so much! :)
  2. I'm considering using this curriculum in the fall, and am wondering what everyone uses after this? I don't see another level after this one. What do you use for grammar at that point?
  3. I am wondering if I should bring FLL3 and/or 4 onto our lineup. I don't love FLL (we have, and are not-using, FLL2) and we're working through MCT, with Galore Park's Junior English right now and IEW's Fix-It Grammar soon. This (plus IEW poetry memorization) is essentially our grammar lineup for the elementary years -- that is, we'll keep moving up through MCT, Jr. English/SYRWTLEnglish, &c. Ideas about adding FLL? pulling from it things we don't hit elsewhere? just doing diagramming? leaving it alone?
  4. Hello to ALL! This is my first ever post, so I'm coming out from lurking in the shadows! =) Through my lurking, I've discovered MCT here about two years ago. I find mixed reviews. Again, I don't want to invest in a system only to discover it doesn't work for us. Would it be too much to do MCT and IEW together? How long does it take at the beginner level of MCT to do? Any other helpful advice/tips that I'm not thinking to question? My ds memorizes pretty well, but is very active. I'm thinking of using MCT to prepare my son for CC Essentials? Do you think it would be too much or that parts of it would be great to use instead of the whole thing? Thanks for the input and help! This forum is such a blessing! =) Hugs!
  5. Please share what you use for grammar for 3rd-6th graders. You will be able to choose more than one option. Can you also explain why you chose it. What else do you use to round out the other Language Arts subjects (composition, spelling, vocabulary, etc.). This will help me see what you do to give your kids a complete Language Arts program. I'm really struggling to make decisions so I need your guidance. Thanks!
  6. I could use your advice....particularly if you have experience with FLL, MCT and/or Classical Conversations Essentials. DS7 is finishing up FLL2. FLL1 and 2 have been easy for him, but I haven't accelerated him. We've just been enjoying the simplicity (plus, he's young!) The lightbulb seems to have gone on, however, because he completely gets the content. He can easily recognize the eight parts of speech, has all of the lists memorized, etc. I introduced some diagramming - even though FLL2 doesn't require it - and he thinks that it is super fun. Here's my question: I recently looked through a friend's copy of FLL3 and realized that the little new content it contains could be taught to my DS in about a week or two. So....should we jump straight to FLL4? I haven't looked at it beyond the samples. I've also read a bit about MCT, but I don't know a lot about the program. FYI - In two years, we plan to enroll him in Classical Conversations Essentials program. Thoughts/suggestions?
  7. So if you finished FLL4, what are you going to do now? Our previous plan was to go on to ALL, but now having spent the summer looking at different language arts programs, I think we'll go on to Analytical Grammar with some independent memorization thrown in there too. What am I forgetting?
  8. We are currently using FLL. I switched to it at the end of last year after using Primary Language Lessons (PLL was not working for us!). My son and I both like FLL. I started at Level 1 (even though he was in Grade 2) because I did not want to miss any essentials. Currently we are at the end of Level 1 and I am deciding whether to skim through Level 2 and then on to 3 or just spend the rest of Grade 3 in Level 2 and do Level 3 next year. What I am wondering is what is recommended for grade 5 - or at the end of Level 4? Any advice?
  9. Can someone please explain to me the difference between First Language Lessons and Writing with Ease? They seem to use the same methods. Is WWE just focused more on writing? I don't get it.... Also, are you required to have both the student workbook and the teacher text for WWE, or can you just provide your own handwriting paper? I am sorting out second grade. How do you balance spelling, handwriting, grammar, and language without buying a curriculum for all of the above? Anyone who has used both of these programs, please sort it out for me! Thank you, Stephanie
  10. Can anyone tell me what are the differences between the two versions? I use to own the older but since I don't have it any longer I can't compare. Now that WWE is available did they change things in the current? I am interested because I am now using FLL 1 with my youngest (funny how we circle back to what we started with:)) at the moment he is not using WWE. Thank you!
  11. Lance, my 6.8 K student, will start FLL 1 (current edition) this week. His fine motor skills are not all there yet. He's a smart little guy but can't write all his letters yet. I was wondering if I should start WWE 1 with him anyway but at a slower pace. If we don't add WWE 1 in would FLL 1 be enough for LA? Lance, is currently using AAR Pre-1. He narrates a short story once a week (I write it down) and this week I'm adding in FLL 1. Thank you,
  12. I can't decide which grammar book to use for dd next year. This year, we will finish FLL 2. My oldest uses R&S for his middle school grammar. Any thoughts or opinions. I do know that R&S requires a lot of writing, and I have my oldest just doing evens for his lessons. I would definitely do some chopping of the lessons for my dd. I read that FLL 3 has a lot of review built in, and I'm not sure we need that. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
  13. I think I may have finally solved my language arts dilemma! I'm hoping that GWG 4 + WWE 4 will be a balanced, well rounded combination of self-directed study with gentle instruction for my upcoming 4th grader (I will continue FLL with my youngers through grade 2). I'm also probably going to try GWG's Soaring with Spelling & Vocabulary. Here's what I ruled out to get here: FLL at the higher grammar level takes too much of my involvement and is too repetitive for my oldest, who has a natural grasp of grammar. She has liked CLE LA (what we switched to mid-year) but it jumps around a lot and I'm not impressed with the instruction (which is mainly in my teacher manual unlike GWG which teaches right in the workbook) - also the spelling component was below her level and the writing assignments didn't usually interest her. I considered R&S but from the samples and what I found on the forums, it seems overly rigorous for someone who already "gets" grammar, dry, and runs the risk of making the Bible rote by inserting so much of it. Plus, my daughter is more workbook-y. I researched Phonics Road, MCT, and others I found in the forums but they were either too expensive or too teacher intensive or too [insert other criteria]. So thanks to all of your input (I spent hours searching threads and starting my own), I think I finally have settled on all my curriculum for fall! Better go buy it before I change my mind... ...Oh, if anyone is using GWG + WWE, I'd love to hear your feedback.
  14. Dh and I are going to be coaching a FIRST LEGO League team again this year. We will not be joining the local homeschool team and working with them for various reasons. So we have the opportunity to start over from scratch. So, we plan to make some major changes to the structure of the team. The primary change will be that it is no longer going to be exclusive to homeschool students. With that in mind, and since we will have some kids on this team that are returning from our team last year, what type of expectations would you want to have in place for behavior and participation? Last year there were ISSUES. The HS group that we were a part of kept the kids coming to large group meetings for a solid month before breaking up the teams. Other issues were that the boys who participated didn't do equal amounts of work. Several were more like saboteurs. The boys on the team last year will be given the chance to join this team, with the possible exception of one who is 12. He would pull the whole group up to the upper age division, which might not be a bad thing... there seemed to be less cheating in that age group. So, if you have coached an academic group, what advice do you have for starting over with this group.
  15. Has anyone gone from FLL3 to CLE LA 4? How was the transition? Was your dc prepared? Also, how have you found the poetry sections in CLE? Or has anyone compared FLL4 to CLE LA 4? I'm looking for something a little less teacher intensive for next year, but just as gentle & repetitive. Dd needs that. We'll be using AAS and a progym writing program also so we won't need the spelling or writing. I'm mostly interested in grammar, although I love that it includes the word study and poetry, as I was thinking about dabbling in something like Poetry Primer but I'm thinking I may not need to if we use CLE? Thanks for any thoughts you might share.
  16. Some background... My dd (4th grade) is just finishing MCT's Grammar Island series. She flew through it. I can't say that I was 100% 'in love' with the curriculum, but I thought it was useful in many ways. My ds is two years behind dd (2nd grade) and he is currently working through FLL 2 and WWE 2. I have found that I really like both. So, here's my burning question. Would it make sense to now pick up with FLL 4 and WWE 4 for my daughter? If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? I know I could start on the next MCT series, but I don't know if I'm convinced that it will give her everything she needs. I think, for us, it might be more useful as a supplement. Any thoughts are GREATLY appreciated! :D
  17. I'm just wondering what others would suggest. My daughter will turn 10 this month and has always struggled with reading and spelling. I believe she is a sight reader. I'm am going to purchase All About Spelling any day now and I feel (and I'm hoping) this will really help with her reading and spelling. But here's my question. What should I do for writing? We are almost done with FLL3 for grammar and will start FLL4 in a week or two. I purchased WWE3 at the beginning of this year, and realized very quickly that it was too hard for her. It's her spelling that really throws things off. Because it is sooo bad it takes her forever to get a sentence out on paper from dictation. I know SWB says to stop and correct them, but if I do that with almost every word she gets very frustrated and also forgets what was said. Any suggestions? I really need to step things up now that she is getting older. I'm looking forward to getting AAS and I hope that helps quite a bit. Should I purchase a lower level of WWE and which one? Or any other suggestions for others who may have been in similar situations? Thanks so much. Angel
  18. I'm debating what to do after my ds finishes A Beka K Phonics. I looked at the end of the book and he's going to be reading and writing words like "beach, scream, brick. spell" etc. I was thinking about continuing with Abeka phonics and language without doing the handwriting and spelling (already planning to use A Reason for Handwriting and All about Spelling), but the cost for Abeka language with readers for first grade is about $170, including the IG's, readers and workbooks, etc. That's a lot! I already own First Language Lessons. Would he be getting enough Phonics instruction with AAS to read well and then do FLL for his grammar and usage? With his older sister, I messed up and tried two different programs that just confused her. She was convinced she never wanted to learn to read and could live forever without knowing. Then in the 2nd semester of 1st grade I did Phonics Pathways and she made a lot of progess. We also used FLL and she loved it. She's in 3rd grade and reads well NOW but is really struggling with spelling and hates to write. Would I just be confusing him and repeating my mistakes by changing him in the middle. Would he do better with continuation, or is it overkill? I don't do everything that's written because I don't have the time or classroom teacher skills. But he's definitely learning to read. What to do? So, I guess I'm confused and needing some direction of where to go next? Should I continue with Phonics Pathways where he's leaving off with Abeka and do FLL and AAS? Lots of options here. :glare: I'm all ears to your opinions!:bigear:
  19. I'm interested in getting the audio cd that goes with FLL 1&2, but the peace hill press site lists two current versions (one says updated). Both say compatible with old and new books. Does anyone know if there is any difference at all in the content, or is the only a new dust jacket? I'd love to hear anyone's feedback on the cd also. Thanks! Nikki
  20. We are starting FLL with our 2nd Grader this year and I'm not sure which level she should start on? I saw that the FLL 1 & 2 is sold out on TWTM website so I was hunting online for a used one. I see most of them are the older editions which are either level 1 or level 2 and I'm not sure which one she would need? She has had Abeka k5 and 1st before so if that helps figure out what level she would need? Thanks! Mandi
  21. Last year I bought FLL and am about a quarter way into the first part with DD. I see that the new editions on the Peace Hill website are split into two books. I can't really tell from the sample exercise in level 1 what the real difference is between the old and new versions is. Does anybody know more about this? Since we are only just beginning the book, do you think it would be a good idea to get the newer editions? I think sometimes I am just looking for an excuse to buy new books. Lesley
  22. I was asked to post the little files I made up for keeping our AAS and FLL in our weekly file system. I'm sure these can be improved on, but I thought I'd share the idea. I'm still trying to think exactly how to work AAS into the filing system, because we really slacked off on this program last year due to it not being in our weekly folders. I think this template will be a great visual reminder. Does anyone have any other ideas? With FLL, I just wanted to have a physical piece of paper that ds has to color in a square each time we finish a lesson. I will move this page from week to week as we go through the year. it is similar to the one that comes with AAS. FLL template AAS template
  23. Won't go into the history of why, but my 13 yr old son is behind in writing. He can write a good story cause he loves it. But he doesn't have good technique. He has never done narrating, dication, copy work, etc. I want to start him with WWE 3 and 4 and go at a super accelerated pace. However, I also wanted to get a jump on sentence diagramming and outlining as per SWB. Can I do the two together/simultaneously, or does he need to have mastered the information in WWE 3 and 4 before moving on? Smiles, Shalynn Read my new question below please.
  24. Hi all, I am considering getting FLL 1/2 for dd. Do we need the teacher's guide for this, or is the workbook (FLL 1/2) enough? I ask because I found that for WWE, the workbooks are enough. TIA. ~ Nandini
  25. I need to cut back on some of my parent led materials so I can better meet the needs of my little ones educations (5,3,1). We are currently finishing up FLL 2. How does Growing with Grammar compare? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Jenny
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