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  1. I have tried searching posts but I'm not finding where to purchase the Illustrated guide to Chemistry and the kit that was mentioned in threads about the new Bio book & kit coming out. Anyone have a link to purchase? Thanks -
  2. I'm thinking way far ahead, but would like some feedback about chemistry in 10th. This is what dd has done and what we're planning: 8th grade (This year): CPO Foundations of Physical Science 9th grade (Next year): Conceptual Physics 10th grade: Spectrum or Apologia Chemistry????? I want to follow the physics-first approach to science. This dd doen't think she wants to go into a science career, but she loves science. She will finish Alg. I this year in 8th grade. We're planning geometry for 9th. I see us either using Spectrum chemistry at home or Apologia Chemistry/Lab at a local home-school covering school. Would you all please compare/contrast these chemistry programs for me? The biggest difference I see is that Spectrum would be done independently, but Apologia would be taught by a chemistry teacher. Dd seems to want to be taught so that she can ask a REAL person questions, but I think she would *enjoy* more and learn as much with Spectrum. Can anyone help me compare Spectrum Chemistry to Apologia Chemistry? Thanks!
  3. So, my son, whom I've assumed for years will be aiming at a liberal arts degree, has recently suggested he might want to do something techy, instead. This is also the one who plans to do high school in three years. We've been kind of taking the scenic route with math, but he has finished algebra I and geometry. This year, he's doing an AoPS book and lots of other stuff. So, he's now planning to start doing math year-round, beginning algebra II this summer, so that he can finish calculus by his self-imposed graduation date. I think he's going to do chemistry for science next year. (He's already done bio and earth-space.) After chatting with him, reading a bunch of threads here and poking around on my own, I'm considering this combination: - CK-12 online chemistry text. - Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments (Thompson) - Khan Academy videos - MIT OpenCourseWare highlights for high school when we have time and interest Truthfully, I'll still be a little surprised if he goes for a STEM degree, but I'm determined to be supportive, just in case. When he finishes his three-year high school program, I think he will probably still do a year of community college locally before going to a four-year university. There is a certificate program he wants to do at the local CC that requires more than a semester's worth of courses but not a full year. So, he would have time to fill in a class or two of science or math before applying to his destination school. So, would the above combination work, do you think? I babysat my daughter through the FLVS honors chemistry course, which was awful. But I'm capable of helping when and if my son needs it. Thoughts?
  4. Trying to plan for the next few years and am considering not using a textbook for Chemistry. Since this is in the early stages of planning I have only come up with a few things: Memorize the Periodic Table, read The Elements book, and work through the Micro Chem Kit. What other things can I add? My son is military bound, but if he does go to college it will be the local College and not a competitive one, so having a transcript that will impress Harvard is not needed...just a well rounded knowledge of subjects.
  5. Science is the one thing I'd like to do with all my kids (since it's not working out to do history together due to mature themes of SOTW 4), so I would really appreciate any input on how best to do it. To stay on the WTM cycle, I would like to do a semester of chemistry and then a semester of physics (physical science). We would have done chem this past year but I delayed it because I thought Apogolia's chem/phys book was coming out this fall, and now it turns out that it won't be until next year. I've read through many threads and checked out samples. The contenders seem to be NOEO, RS4K, Elemental Science, McHenry's Elements, and Classic Science (Mr. Q). My dilemma is that there seems to always be a divide between K-3 and 4-6. I want something that will bridge that gap...if it's out there. So I am open to other curriculum suggestions as well, Christian or secular.
  6. My DS9 and I have been using the American Chemical Society's Middle School Science lessons, and we're both delighted. The lessons are easy to use with labs that don't break the bank. They're inquiry based, meaning the lesson starts with question-asking and observation, moving to experimentation and terminology. I know that's not the classical norm, but I think for the logic stage it works quite well. Extensions into living books could be done, although I've not systematically looked into that. What I have done is create a materials list (and review) of the program. Now if only I can find something similar for Earth Science for this fall!
  7. I got a query from a reader today, asking if there was an inexpensive local source for small quantities of concentrated hydrogen peroxide. (HST sells 30 mL--about one fluid ounce--for $5.50 + shipping.) I replied that food-grade (very pure) concentrated hydrogen peroxide is available locally in many places, but usually in gallon or larger containers. There is, however, an easy and inexpensive way to get small amounts of concentrated hydrogen peroxide. Simply purchase a pint bottle of drugstore 3% hydrogen peroxide for a buck or so, pour a little bit out (to leave room for expansion) and then put it in the freezer. After an hour or two, you'll find that most of the water has frozen solid, leaving a liquid that's much more concentrated hydrogen peroxide. (The actual concentration may vary depending on conditions, but the concentration you get should be fine for nearly any experiment that specifies concentrated hydrogen peroxide.) Note that this concentrated form of hydrogen peroxide lacks the stabilizers present in commercial products and so will decompose pretty rapidly over time. Make it up immediately before you need it. Also note that concentrated hydrogen peroxide is an extremely strong oxidizer, so read the MSDS for concentrated hydrogen peroxide on the HST site or elsewhere and follow all safety precautions.
  8. Or would you try to find the absolute best for Physical Science, the absolute best for Biology, the absolute best for chemistry and the absolute best for physics? I was planning on doing D.I.V.E with the BJU textbooks but another post on another thread got me to wondering if that would truly be the best way to go. If you think its best to find the absolute best for each year, who can you recommend for Christian Chemistry and Physics? If I do change things up I think I will do D.I.V.E ICP (with some supplementation from College Physics by Knight, Jones, and Fields) next year still and Shepard Science Biology. What about the other two? Or should I just stick with D.I.V.E and BJU?
  9. I have a mathy kid, but he is young and I don't want to overwhelm him. I am trying to plan for his 7th and 8th grade years. I know this is the high school board but I am looking at high school level courses as he will have finished AoPS Intro Algebra at the end of 6th. I was planning on following the WTM plan of Chemistry and Physics for 7th and 8th respectively but don't know whether to have him focus on concepts or a more mathematical approach to the sciences. He will have about 5 hours per week to devote to science (we could up it, but might have to drop something). He is currently loving Tarbuck's Earth Science (college level), but it has no math in it and it is very conceptual. So.... 2 questions: Would you recommend Conceptual Chemistry or Spectrum Chemistry? Would you recommend Conceptual Physics or College Physics by Knight? (like the idea of Kinetic Physics, but we MUST have a solutions manual) (Also happy to entertain other options). I would also love to have some issues that I should consider when making these choices. Not really sure HOW to make the decision. He tells me he wants to be a theoretical physicist, but I am not sure if this is just "what do you want to be when you grow up" type of answer from a young kid. I am open to changing around the order of the sciences, but he is "mad keen" as they say in NZ to get into Physics. He has already watched quite a few of the TTC Physics in Your Life lectures. Thanks, Ruth in NZ
  10. Any resources out there to help homeschoolers prepare for organic chemistry in college? I have heard from so many people who struggled with (or dropped) Organic Chem in college. Thanks.
  11. Hello I am a newbie here, and have been lurking some last night. I was reading a good bit about how some think that teaching textbooks is behind, and it scares me because my son has started Chemistry, and I am afraid that I have jumped the gun here with started him out in Chemistry! He is in his third week of Chemistry, and is having a hard time as the other's in his class are too (he goes to a home school class once a week) they are using Abeka, not sure why they aren't using Apologia? Even his Chemistry teacher said the Apologia was easier. Anyway's I am concerned that he is not learning enough math, especially to keep up with this chemistry class, he has been doing the Algebra for a little over a month. I was thinking I may even have to take him out of the Chemistry, I'm just not sure yet, wanted to see what advice I could get from here. So far, they are not doing to much of the chemistry related math stuff. The thing that worries me is, he already struggles some in math, and I am afraid that any other math program will be too hard. He also has adhd, so that makes things even tougher! Should I supplement another math with the TT's? Or should I check out MUS? I understand that is a good math for learning disabled kids. I just don't know what to do?! I want him to succeed in math and Chemistry BUT I do not want him to NOT understand his math and hate it either, we tried saxon in 6th grade and that was a complete nightmare! So we won't go back there! lol ANY suggestions? THANKS!!!! Tracy
  12. I bought the Chemistry DVDs for my DD (the high school course), and so far, we are extremely disappointed. The first three lectures have no content whatsoever, all he talks about is that chemistry is easy despite contrary misconceptions. Then it is sooo slow... DD is skipping large chunks because he just talks a lot without saying much. My question is: does it get better? At what point? Or was this an utter waste of money for a student who does NOT have hangups about chemistry and who gets stuff when it is explained once? We really feel treated like idiots by this guy.
  13. I'm going through my bookmarks and ran across these. Both are from the American Chemical Society and targeted for middle school. http://www.inquiryinaction.org/ http://www.middleschoolchemistry.com/
  14. In trying to put together a chemistry course for my dd, who requested not to use Apologia, I learned a few things. After much frustration over the weekend, I wanted to pass along what I learned. If you have The Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments by Robert Thompson, per Mr. T himself, you will need to spend roughly $400 on lab equipment. There is a guide to THGHCE available for free download which requires a kit beginning at $150. If you wish to add (2) goggles and digital mulitmeter, add $15. The guide is not complimentary to the book. It is comprised of most of the experiments in the book, but certainly not all. Great link: http://www.squidoo.com/chemistry-for-high-schoolers This smart gal put together what looks like a dynamite chemistry class for her boys using videos, books (including the Thompson one), notebooking, and more! One more thought....Georgia Public TV has a free chemistry course consisting of 30 minute videos, notetaking outline, lab reports, and quizzes. GA educators can request teacher materials which will be mailed directly to the instructor. Whew! Hope that helps someone! Teresa in NC
  15. Was I just imagining this or is Jeannie Fulbright writing this now? Any information would be greatly appreciated!!!!
  16. I want my dds (both intersted in engineering fields) to do full, just-like-we-did-in-school labs, even some AP labs, with their DIVE/BJU Chemistry. It seems like everyone I talk to did simplified labs, just watched them, skipped them, did them at co-op, etc. I've scheduled one per week from the DIVE and BJU books, put all the supplies in my various online carts, made room to store the chemicals safely. But I'm a little nervous, because everyone seems to think it's too much to do at home, and I'm starting to think I'm being naive. Even the in-laws ask, "How will they do Chemistry if you homeschool?" :glare: So... If you really did full-blown labs for chemistry, could you please tell me about it. Any tips? Any labs that were really great or really flopped? TIA! :001_smile:
  17. Guten Tag! I am 14, and a rising sophomore. I was looking at Spectrum Chemistry, and it looks pretty good. For anyone who has used it, was it throrough and rigorous enough? I completed Algebra 1 in my freshman year. Do I need to do Bridge Math over the summer? I don't plan on majoring in science or going into a STEM type of field (I'm the singing/movie type :D). Would Spectrum be good enough for a basic chemistry course? Thanks in advance!
  18. What do you think would be a better year of chemistry. She did Christian Kids Explore Chemistry in 3rd. That had a unit on Organic Chemistry but not alot of that stuck with her. Friendly Chemistry 4th ed (Along with McHenrys The Elements and Carbon Chemistry) Gods Design for Chemistry and Ecology with the supplements recommended with that curriculum and McHenrys The Elements and Carbon Chemistry She will go through Tiners Exploring the World of Chemistry either before or after her chemistry study. Probably after so it makes more sense, what do you think? Also, please give me your reasons for your decision! Thanks
  19. Not using The Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments. Some of the things he wants to try! -Nan
  20. I have a few questions. I am trying to add a Chemistry Minor to my degree (Business Administration). I have been working with an adviser at K State to get into their Vet program. I would like to take Concepts of Physics and Introduction to Chemistry this fall. My current GPA is a 3.8. I need to maintain a good GPA for vet school, and I am a very diligent student. I cannot for myself tolerate anything less than an A, I always strive for all A's. I am very competitive and hardworking student. My biggest shortcoming is in math. I am not good in Algebra. The only time that I took it was in an eight week online class-about three years ago. I have never taken a Chemistry, Physics, or even a science class before, and have only taken one Biology class and it was online. I got a B in it, and had a very hard time understanding what was going on. I do not feel that I learned the material while doing online classes. I am sharing this to try to describe the type of foundation that I have. With this type of background, how do you think that I would do if I were to take Concepts of Physics and Introduction to Chemistry 1, both this fall semester? Would you recommend that I first take Algebra 1 & 2? It is very important to me that I do whatever is necessary to ensure that I do well in the classes that I have to complete for Vet school. If that means backing up and taking some extra courses, before doing the needed prerequisites, then I will. I have listed below the classes that the adviser at K State told me to take. I would really like some advice on whether I need to take some extra classes for a better foundation, or if I would be ok to dive into the following prerequisites. I really want to do well in these classes and also have a good foundation for when I begin Vet School. Concepts of Physics I (PY155) 4 Credit Hours - acceptable Concepts of Physics II (PY 156) 4 Credit Hours - acceptable Introduction to Chemistry I (CH 107) 3 Credit Hours - acceptable Introduction to Chemistry II (CH 108) 3 Credit Hours – acceptable (you should also take the lab)Organic Chemistry I (CH 317) 3 Credit Hours - acceptable Organic Chemistry lab I 3 Credit Hours - acceptable Biochemistry (BI 337) 3 Credit Hours - acceptable Genetics (BI 320) 4 Credit Hours - acceptable Microbiology (BI 350) 4 Credit Hours - acceptable I do plan to go over a lot of math and Algebra this summer, and to read through my textbooks prior to the fall semester beginning. I would really like everyone's advice. Thank you.
  21. Anyone have experience with this curriculum? Thoughts? Good, bad, other? TIA, Teresa
  22. I did Apologia Chemistry this year and I thought I was doing okay but have been consistently scoring at 80% or lower, usually in the 70's. I've only gotten to Module 12 and I just can't keep going. I've done so poorly in the previous sections that it's effected my understanding and my work. Would I be completely crazy to start completely over and give myself only 16 weeks instead of 32. I think this was one of my issues. With it spread out so much, things disconnected. I'll take another week on modules I really don't understand, but generally, I'd do a module/week. My science next year won't be too heavy (Astronomy) so I'm not worried about it interfering too much. I need working knowledge of Chemistry to become a Lab Technician. The program requires a C+ or better in the class and the lab, and I have just barely a C+. I want to do better. Is this a good idea? Thanks.
  23. Have you seen the new kits put out by Robert Thompson, the author of the Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry? http://www.thehomescientist.com/kits/CK01/ck01-main.html While I'm not fond of microchemistry, the manual looks very good. Simple. Clear. Doable. And easy to monitor. (I love the Illustrated Guide, but realize that I have to be at the elbow for most of it. The labs we have used really do require a very mature student. "Don't you dare pour that down my sink, didn't you read what he said on page ___!") If these materials are anything like his Illustrated Guide, I'm guessing it is terrific! I think the original book is top notch, but so far no one in my house has shown a huge interest in chemistry so I just couldn't justify the time in the schedule; that stupid textbook hogged most of the week. There just wasn't time to DO chemistry which really bugs me. There are a couple of things about our high school line up that still scratch at my soul. This is one of them. Chemistry is meant to be DONE, not talked about. It's like baking or cooking. You learn how to manage the book so you can DO it. But if some insurance agent determines that it's too dangerous for kids to saddle up to the stove and a frying pan full of sputtering hot oil, cooking is going to become a mighty hum-drum "course." The final outcome? No one will ever really learn about cooking. sigh.... So, 8 Fill the Heart, would you like to test drive this one and get it all reviewed and aligned to match the Prentice Hall text/Kolbe syllabus FOR ME for 2012/13? I want JUST enough textbook blah, blah, blah for the lab to be in context. More than any other course, I think the lab is the trump for chemistry. I'll send you a Starbucks card as a gift! ;) Pretty please! So far my two oldest kids think they don't like chemistry. I am SURE it is because of the lack of cohesion/wow-factor between the text and the lab materials we have used. Ironic, huh! Third time is a charm, right? Care to do the leg work/test drive on this one? :001_smile:Janice
  24. I picked up a copy of Molecules Matter & Change recently. Does anyone have any experience with the book. Can you help me place it in intro to chem, honors chem, college for non majors, etc? Any suggestions for websites that might help me use it? I have the 3rd edition if that matters.
  25. I has come up in a few recent threads that most classroom based science classes don't try to teach every chapter in a book. Reaching back to my long past high school days, I can only remember doing this in biology, not in chemistry or physics. If you pick and choose which chapters to cover, how do you decide where to put the emphasis and what to skip over? If you are using syllabuses (syllabai?) you find online, could you share sources you've thought worth emulating. (A quick search for chemistry seemed to give me a lot of course outlines that emphasized class behavior and homework expectations but that didn't actually outline the course content.) I've pretty much figured out that we will be doing biology, chemistry and physics with the option of a fourth science (advanced course or a specialty course like robotics).
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