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  1. I don't want to do this at the local CC; we just need a high school speed class. TIA
  2. HI ALL! If we use one of these textbooks with the idea of taking the Ap Cal BC test at the end, we'll be okay right?? i absolutely have no clue and I just can't spend another brain cell trying to decide. He's going into STEM, hopes to get into MIT, is self taught and I will have a tutor on hand every couple of weeks for him or as needed. Will any of these books be okay? Serve him well? DO him right?? I just don't know anything other than looking at the titles makes this non mathy head hurt!:D (I'm not even sure what the titles mean!) Somebody decide for me! Calculus I: Early Transcendental Functions, 4th Edition by Larson Calculus Concepts and Applications by Foerster Calculus: Concepts and Contexts, 4th Edition by Stewart Thanks!!
  3. Trying to decide what option would be best for my oldest son who needs to take Calculus next year: PA Homeschoolers- He has done VERY well with all of the PA Homeschooler classes he has done so far. They fit his personality and work ethic. Would he take AB or BC? Our local community college offers it and supposedly has an agreement with the universities in our state that they will transfer for STEM majors... I just don't know about that.. Plus, he would get 2 semesters of calc here and then take a 3rd at Baylor or TCU... Sounds a little risky to me. However, he could just retake Calculus or enter at Calc 2 like he would with AP... Another online option?? Anything else I should think about. He will major in computer science possibly at Baylor, TCU or LeTourneau (our safety school... it is only 15 minutes away, too close for his taste). OHH.. That is another option, he could take Calc at LeTourneau...but man that would be just a regular Calc course.. I'm thinking he should have some exposure before, but maybe not???
  4. Hoping others will give their stories for both AB and BC so people will be able to see the options...and I know we used a lot of materials - I was nervous over here...:). But he did get a 5 and did it in one semester (just AB). My problem was keeping up with the correcting since when someone is doing 2-3 hours of math a day - the problems add up quickly! Since I think it is important to give background I'm starting back at grade school.... First, family background - while I did do a year of Calculus in college - I had completely forgotten it, so my son didn't have the advantage of a math gifted/trained mother... my husband had forgotten his Calculus as well. My ds2 has done a lot of calculus in college (engineering) but was quite busy, so only answered questions and discussed math on rare occasions. Ds's math background - Saxon through Algebra I (and used Alg 1/2 c1999/2nd ed) and the first 30 lessons of Algebra II (where he gave up saying he wasn't learning anything new). Then he started into Foerster Alg II, but was just overwhelmed and stopped after the several chapters...he was doing this 2 days a week while doing geom.. Jacob's Geometry 2nd edition At the same time he was preparing for Swiss math tests...they do more practical geometry and he was just solidifying his other knowledge.. Algebra II and Trig - Dolciani '77 edition for the first 10 chapters, then an older edition for the last 6 ( I liked the explanations better most of the time)... Precalculus - Foerster 2nd ed - see this post Calculus - Larson here I'll go into more detail... General plan - he was to read the textbook BEFORE watching the DVD lesson, and take notes...do the other types of projects and labs as on the syllabus. I had gotten the 8th edition of Calculus with Analytic Geometry (though we didn't end up using half of the book since we were only doing Calculus AB) I found a syllabus online which had all the problems the teacher was assigning...on this page with sample AP approved syllabi....which went with our book. I chose one that was using block scheduling since that was what we were doing. Then I researched all the things that would be required for an AP approved syllabus for AP Calculus...there is an enormous amount of information on the CB website AP Calculus homepage... and made my own syllabus from that to cover the types of labs which were on the syllabus I'd found, which included Explorations from Foerster's Calculus Instructor's Resource Book, various kinds of word problems found online which involved more complicated real life situations... We also used a Watched Cup Never Cools for projects, but to be honest, he did most of those AFTER the exam... The other books besides the student Calculus book, which for us were really indispensable were the (imp note - if you are going with Larson, it would be probably cheaper to order the stuff directly from the publisher rather than piece by piece from Amazon. Some sellers are making a killing on teacher's materials that are cheaper from the publisher). AP Calculus Released exams by CB - you can see how points are awarded for various types of answers on the Free Response Questions Solutions AP Calculus Problems - you have to know which ones go with which chapter you are covering, which I found on Wilson's syllabus (from the above sample syllabi) Complete Solutions book - vol 1 Complete Solutions book vol 2 DVD's Instructor's Resource Guide - has 5 different tests for each chapter - 3 multiple choice and 2 open answers...mine did at least one of each Test Bank (ETA - wrong name - it is Test Item File) - 9780618527960 - this was useful for the chapters where only part of the material was covered on the AP, so we couldn't use the regular chapter tests (unless you know calculus well enough yourself to eliminate the questions covering material you haven't touched) - you have to get it from the publisher Teacher's Resource Guide 9780618527984 - tells what's covered in the AP and what is not... Be Prepared for the AP Calculus Exam - very useful part about the graphing calculator use on the exam...and good overall review... AP Study Guides - Cliff's If I had to do it over again - I would have gotten a book with Multiple Choice practice questions like this one... Most important for people like me (calculus is forgotten) was a tutor to whom we could turn...I could correct problems with the solutions books, but sometime ds did them in a different way, and I had no clue whether they were right or not...Also, I wanted ds to be able to talk about math with someone who knows AP Calc exams, to talk about the Free Response questions - do them on the spot a bit...So we were able to use Gmail video chat combined with an online whiteboard which makes it easy to write math problems with Kathy in Richmond for tutoring. Even though we didn't use that many hours (and the time included the time that she would correct problems that I sent her with solutions), this was so invaluable to us...It helped make sure that ds was on the right track and staying there....Highly recommended! Important sites: Cengage - Calculus labs - used some,not all Mr. Bird's Calc page - used his memorization quizzes, Nspire intro, etc. Calculus.org Calculus in Motion - ds played around with these... Java Applets - and these We used some things from these books but I don't know if they are indispensable 800 questions other Calculus books which he would study if he didn't understand how a concept was presented (Foerster, Thomas).. that happened more in the beginning than the end... ETA - continued a bit more in next post at the bottom HTH and hoping others will share their story, Joan
  5. Do you have particular favorite to recommend (preferably with a complete answer key)? :)
  6. My DD is using Stewart 7th edition for college calculus. She is learning that her public school math foundation was really not that strong and is struggling a bit. I have pointed her to Khan Academy for extra help, but am wondering if there are any book recommendations, or other on-line resources, that can help her understand some of the concepts.
  7. I just took a peek at the MUS website after I noticed a reference to MUS Calculus on another thread. I had been under the impression that they withdrew that product because it had been off the website for a long time, and I was curious to see if it was up again. Anyway, I not only saw that Caluculus is available, but that they are now offering online classes for pre-algebra through calculus and stewardship math. This should probably be good news for someone.:) I've been wondering what to do after TT Pre-Calc so this might be an option for my future music student.
  8. Okay, so it's our first day of the new school year and we already have an "issue!" I have TT Geometry for my 9th grader. Was I incorrect in thinking that the actual problem sets were going to be done on the computer? All that was on our cd's was the lesson lecture and the practice problems. Is my dd supposed to do the problem sets on paper, using the workbook? Thanks!
  9. We're looking for a calculus program for DS17 (Rising senior) for next year. He has been self-study for all his high school math, but I want him to have a "real" person that can help him for calculus. So far the two programs DH has looked at that we think will work for us are Distance Calculus http://www.distancecalculus.com/calculus1/ and NetMath http://cm.math.uiuc.edu/ I would appreciate so much any feedback from folks who have used either program. If you've used something else that you thought was fabulous, please add your suggestions. Just so you know, our educational philosophy has always been towards mastery. The kids get 100% on all of their homework, tests, etc. because they keep doing it until it is right. We are 99% sure he will be a National Merit Semi-finalist, so we are also looking for something such as a college course to add to his transcript. If it makes a difference, his other coursework will consist of physics (Apologia has worked well for him in chem & bio, so we plan to continue), English, govt/econ, piano & violin, Spanish...basically what he has done over the past few years, so physics and calculus will be the only "new" stuff to deal with. :bigear:
  10. Has anyone used Thinkwell Calculus? Any thoughts about it?
  11. My daughter is on track to finish calculus well before the end of high school. She wants to study math in college, so obviously we want four years of math in high school, if not more. What do you do beyond calculus? I know there are a lot of possibilities ranging from Calculus II to number theory to probability and statistics and what not, and I figure she'll have her own opinion on it based on what in particular she is thinking about for college by that point. But as an English major mom I would love to get some ideas of what the possibilities are, especially as far as what texts you would suggest - thanks so very much!
  12. Free Videos Online UC Open Access - Gives coordinated reading from several common texts. NROC (Monterey Institute) - appears to be same as UC Open Access above. Eg. Calculus AB - semester 1 is the same National Math and Science Initiative AP Calculus wiki for AB and BC There is writing with printed equations and a voice explaining. Includes handout to go with the lecture. This is new and still developing in 2010-11 so the server goes off for a few minutes sometimes. Khan Academy MIT Openware Calculus-Help.com only has Limits and Continuity and Finding Derivatives for free Selwyn Hollis - University of Houston My quicktime wouldn't work on these though.. Free Power Point lectures Greg Kelly - Hanford High School Ones to Buy Chalkdust - goes with Larson Calculus of Single Variable Thinkwell - not sure which text they use.. Others?
  13. How long did it take your child to work through Calc. 1 (Chapters 1-5). How long would you say did each Chapter take? Thanks.
  14. Because it can be beneficial for calculus students to work on some problems and activities together and there is no one over here doing Calculus (in English who is not in school that I have been able to find), I thought I'd see if anyone's son or daughter is working on Larson (it could be another book but then there would be a bit of work matching the topics, though some books are closer than others) this year who would be interested in occasionally getting together online to work on the type of problems and activities which are suggested to work on in groups.... My ds is working toward the AP Calculus AB exam which is going to be given on the 4 May, so there is not that much time left. We are doing it on block scheduling started in Dec, so he is not quite as far along as your son or daughter probably, but he is rapidly catching up. We're doing integrals and antidifferentiation right now (Ch 4 Calculus Larson) It is possible to use scriblink.com or vyiew.com. I had originally been thinking of this just for group projects and someone gave me the idea for a study group. This is not mandatory to being involved in a study group, but at some point I was thinking of doing "projects" which are more complicated and would therefore need a math teacher to facilitate. This is a free collaborative group - I have no experience in Calculus except for this year. If we would get a math teacher involved, then I would want to offer some remuneration, but that would be for each get together and has yet to even be started. Hopefully, Joan
  15. My son is working on AP Calculus AB. In the AP Course Description and other calculus materials it talks about working on some problems or projects with other students. He is going to do some with his older brother, but I thought I would see if there is anyone else doing the subject now who would be interested so that they are all at the same place so to speak? It is possible to do online groups using such sites as scriblink.com (max 6 users) OR http://vyew.com/s/ (max 10 users) where there a whiteboard that all can see and write on at the same time. There is audio, so you can talk to each other as well. I am not a Calculus teacher myself, so I was thinking of trying to get a Calculus teacher involved as a facilitator and then we would all have to pay a small fee, but I have not really figured that part out. I thought I'd first see if there is any other interest. We do live in Switzerland so there could be a time difference issue, but it should not be too difficult to work out. Hopefully, Joan
  16. I'm wondering if anyone has any quizzes that they are willing to share that just test the "Stuff to Know Cold" type of info? What I mean by that is that I want my ds to be working on memorizing the above info, and from time to time, I want to give him a quiz that just covers that info. Though I guess they might not cover it all at once.... And do you have any other list of stuff that has to be memorized for the AP AB? Thanks! Joan
  17. Ds is doing block scheduling for Calculus, preparing for the AP AB exam (though I wouldn't mind hearing about materials for the BC exam as well), so we're just getting into this subject... I've researched lots of syllabi online and am pretty overwhelmed. If it was just going through the book with DVD's and two review books it would seem easy, but now the more I look, the more I find.... For example, on some syllabi, there are all these extra problem solving questions and calculus projects, then there are labs and explorations in other places. On the AP site, there are 5 modules and 3 special focus materials - Curriculum Modules Extrema (.pdf/3.0MB)New! Motion (.pdf/2.8MB) Reasoning from Tabular Data (.pdf/1.8MB) Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (.pdf/2.6MB) Functions Defined by Integrals (.pdf/792KB) Special Focus Materials Approximation (.pdf/1.2MB) New! Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (.pdf/2.6MB) Differential Equations (.pdf/663KB) All kinds of related articles and other materials (see here) There are Calculus Labs Can anyone point me to the most important extra activities to accomplish? I'm presuming these AP modules and focus materials are quite important..... What extras have you done? Thanks! Joan
  18. I found a Calculus syllabus on the web (in the US), and on it, the teacher has a slot for "oral exams" at least once in the year. For my ds2 who did Swiss high school, they always had written and oral exams for math. (This reminds me of Jane in NC's thread about talking about math). Anyway, I'm wondering if any of you have done this? If so, do you have a format to suggest? Or any other suggestions about how to do it? My ds2 is not much help about this type of thing - as he likes to speak with as few words as possible usually. Thanks! Joan
  19. PBWM (please bear with me) after my Calc thread earlier this year.... After that thread, I thought it best to use Larson for Calculus and got all the materials in prep for December. Then ds started Precalculus first with Dolciani, then dipped into Larson Precalc, then moved to Foerster Precalc because he did not like how Larson was written. He really likes the way things are explained in Foerster Precalc and is now steaming ahead. He really did not like the way things were explained in Larson and found it hard to understand.. So I got worried and ordered all the materials for Foerster's Calculus (completely forgetting the thread as I was completely distracted at the time) and felt content. :001_smile: Then recently I started looking at the size of the Foerster book compared to the size of the Larson book - it's about 1/3 the size. OK, I know some of the chapters are for the BC test, but still, the Larson book looks so formidable compared to the Foerster one. Have any of you (well your dc) used ONLY the Foerster book, taken the AP Calculus AB and done well (as in get a 5)? Or used it and supplemented? (If so with what?) Or used only it and done poorly? If you supplemented any topics - could you give me advice on which ones and with what materials? I'm thinking he won't want to use Larson. When he approaches materials with pleasure, he just does so much better. It looks like he'll be finished with Precalc by the end of Nov and I want to be ready.... Thank you! Joan
  20. Do any of your dc do Calculus without a calculator? DS did Chalkdust Calculus last year with a graphing calculator and did very well in the course. This past fall, DS's first semester in college he was advised to retake Calculus because they did it differently, so he was told. I was confused about it, but know now what they meant was they taught Calculus without using a calculator. He had to do everything by hand. Is this common for college math? He got a "B" in the class. I was wondering if the graphing calculator becomes a crutch and actually is harmful to real understanding. Just wondering for my other dc coming up who will be doing precal and maybe calculus in the future. TIA
  21. Just found this site while answering DS's question. Maybe someone here will find this useful. http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/CalcI.aspx Carole
  22. Hi there. I'm new here and learning the site as I go. I was publicly schooled all my life and I've never really really self-taught myself subject matter. I'm currently going on my second semester in my first year of college without foundations in the (4)areas below. For me that would be: Chemistry Physics Calculus Pre-Calculus Could you provide great links? Could you tell me effective ways of instilling the knowledge? Also any detailed advice on how to be self taught and teach yourself these things is much appreciated. I will visit every link. Also, I think the full fledged thing might be, not sure, but could be harder to grasp than an introductory course in these subjects. Actually I think algebra and trig are more familiar so just the pre-calc intro course would be sufficient. I can't wait to learn physics and chemistry. Baby steps, thanks.:seeya:
  23. What was it? I'm wanting input from people who have actually been there, not from people who have looked at a curriculum and determined that it will not prepare a student for college math. I KNOW the former exists - I've heard of it before. So I'm wondering if anyone else has - I'd like to steer clear of those curriculums.;) Also, I'm talking about in situations where students have done WELL in the curriculum, THINKING they'd be fine. And then ending up in remedial math in college. I'm NOT talking about students who struggle with math or with the curriculum, and I'm also not talking about advanced math - I'm talking about the basic college algebra or whatever it is that college students are required to take.
  24. My dd has done Saxon through alg. 1/2 and then TT for Alg. 1, 2, geometry. I'm trying to decide if TT pre-calc is challenging enough for pre-calc or if I should switch to chalkdust or something else. Does anyone have experience with TT through Geometry and then something else for pre-calc. Did you child make the switch or did she/he need to go back and do more difficult Alg. 2 before being able to handle the chalkdust pre-calc?:001_unsure:
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