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  1. Where we are one of the biggest, most common stumbling blocks to regular diploma vs modified seems to be that regular requires passing math through Algebra 2. My son already did that in 10th so probably has no need of “modified”. He still has above 3.2 cumulative GPA, but it has taken a hit since he was on honor roll. He does have some LD trouble, but he probably has no LD or anything else bad enough to be eligible for vocational rehab. Though possibly “anxiety” or “trauma” would qualify him. It currently doesn’t have an official diagnosis however. Since he was considering military (in 9th—not so much now) and or because fitting in socially is important to him, he refused any accommodations (aside from some of what his school does for all the kids). @shinyhappypeople— where we are in public schools, an inability to get past prealgebra as of 11th grade would first of all indicate a reason to go back to “10th grade” (instead of social promotion) and might ultimately become a reason to go to “modified” diploma — though not necessarily if summers were used and/ or geometry and algebra get doubled up in one year. My son like @shinyhappypeople daughter has trauma and other stuff, and is having procrastination and rushed / poor work issues currently which could cause a problem with an on time graduation, but I hope not. Not school refusal, he has only a couple of absences—but homework and study severe procrastination. In some cases we’ve dialed back expectations (byebye calculus at least for now, and probably looking toward trade or similar work that won’t require college, though he has been taking the entrance requirement classes for university—luckily already finished minimum foreign language, math, etc before becoming . I’ve been experimenting with approaches like “Nurtured Heart”, “Option Institute,” and similar approaches... And at other moments like this weekend there’s more of a going back to scaffolding his EF—finding the crumpled papers that were due last week (as per a book title) and insisting that he redo his chemistry homework rather than submit shoddy work. In our area a “modified” diploma seems to go a long way toward getting jobs as compared to no diploma. My understanding is a lot of employers like to see strong work ethic showing in a transcript, even if Algebra 2 was beyond someone. (Most 4 year colleges require at least the same basic minimum for entrance as our regular diploma requires, so while technically a homeschooling mom can give whatever grades she wants and whatever diploma she wants, giving a diploma for a homeschool program that doesn’t meet that may not actually help all that much if college is the goal. Especially if there’s a significant disparity between what the diploma and transcript seem to show and performance on SAT or similar tests. At least as best I understand it. Quite a few colleges require standardized testing or some other means to back up mommy grades. ) @prairiewindmomma 45 kids in prealgebra class sounds like such a huge group! For both better and worse my son’s whole 11th grade has fewer than 20 kids! At our school I don’t think the single modified class (or even several) ending ability to earn a regular diploma is true. There are several kids with significant physical disabilities who get modifications, yet seem to be on regular diploma track and competitive college bound.
  2. I can speak to this, to some degree. DH retired 15 or so years before hitting Medicare a couple of years ago. FIRST: I would talk to an independent representative in your state. Each STATE has different offerings and rules and pricing. When we bought our insurance, our state had been under the influence of a particularly inept insurance commissioner and so we had like 2 choices and an HMO. Lack of competition + nanny state = higher prices. Had we lived in our FORMER state, we would have had multiple providers to choose among, with fewer legal requirements, so we would have paid about half for the same coverage. In the end, and ever since, we went with HEALTH INSURANCE, not health care coverage. Why? We are relatively healthy and at the time had no ongoing medical issues with associated costs A lot of the health care were use is not covered by health-care coverage anyway, and if there is coverage, there are co-pays. We opted to have catastrophic coverage, which has a $10K deductible and is largely cash-pay until then. I did the math, and have done so every year, and we have never come close to paying out of pocket what we would have paid with health care coverage. That is true for the year I broke my arm, and for the year I had 3 surgeries, 2 under general anesthesia...but I have to admit--we came close that time. Here's the math for our current situation--for health insurance, I pay $500 a month for me and my 23yo son. We have a $10,000 deductible. We get some benefits, like 10 half-price chiropractor visits, a colonoscopy every 5 years, 10 counseling visits half paid, and an annual physical, 100% covered. There are also some prescription benefits with this. I use alternative care which I pay for out of pocket. In contrast, the lowest-cost health care coverage would be $1400 a month with almost the same benefits and a $6000 deductible. I would still pay for the alternative health care; that's not covered. So, the math on the face of it is this: 12 x $500=$6000. 12 X $1,400=$16,800. The delta is $10,800. I can buy a whole lot of health care for that amount of money. And if the whole amount is spent on me, I've met my deductible and the coverage after that is very good...about the same as I would pay for the other insurance... Most years I have saved at least $6,000 going with Health Insurance. The year I had three surgeries, I was still about $1,000 to the good. This only works because we are relatively healthy. DH has developed a condition that needs expensive meds. Were he still on our plan, we would be so screwed. That said, not that many insurers cover the cost of his meds, so we would be screwed anyway, even with the health-care coverage. As it is, he has had to find the Medicare insurer that covers the meds...and it is still going to take $5,000 out of our pockets...if he does this protocol. My point in rattling on about this is that you might want to think through your options. Most people I talk to have never once thought about health insurance. And if you go this route, you have to have money in the bank to deal with the costs as they come in. The first two years, we built up a piggy bank by pretending we were paying for health-care coverage so we have a decent sum set aside for emergency health stuff. Like my son's dental bills. Ugh. (BUT those would not have been covered under the expensive insurance either!!!!!) It's been about 15 years now, and we have usually saved $6,000 a year. $90,000 is nothing to sneeze at. In my world, my biggest annual expense is the health insurance (we pay extra for Medicare); then property taxes. I hope this is helpful.
  3. Similar situation for us - oldest D'S is very math/science oriented and is getting a straightforward CS degree and his career path after college is fairly well defined. 2nd DS knows what he's good at (leadership, creativity, people skills, public speaking) but so far hasn't translated those aptitudes into a career path yet. Like, not at all. He knows with a communications degree his salary right out of college will likely be quite different than 1st D'S and his career path will be too. But he's hoping it will prepare him for a variety of options.
  4. This is a very valuable input for your daughter. People who are smarter than oneself challenge one's way of thinking and encourage one to grow and learning comes from that process. She should look for other students who take their education seriously in the CC and ignore all the other elements that may bring her down. I was in a high school where every single female student in my graduating class was not interested in STEM subjects, it seemed. I was the oddball and felt isolated, but, I paid attention during my math class to those around me and found another girl who answered the teacher's questions eagerly: turned out that she was very understated and had a very gentle voice that she mostly went unnoticed in class. I became good friends with her and we started a studygroup to work on topics that interested us and even won a small mention in a big science fair from it. One of the greatest takeaways from college is the learning from discussions, bouncing off ideas off each other and the feeling of enjoyment during participation in projects with peers. It seems that your daughter is missing that important part of the experience. Could she approach the math professors whose class she enjoys and ask if there is scope for her to do some challenging projects? They may even guide her to outside resources if there are none available in the campus (which I doubt). Would she be open to considering transfer to the 4 year university on an earlier schedule?
  5. Start consistently doing school, including math, with the kids. Do standardized testing this spring and come up with a remediation plan. Start keeping lesson plans for the spring semester, and gather some written work for a portfolio.
  6. Or maybe math either? 🤣 Same year as Abraham Lincoln.
  7. Yes, we have and yes, it was successful for the student. He got through level 805 and was well prepared to begin algebra this year in 9th grade. My husband took over teaching math using CLE when my oldest was in 7th grade and he liked the curriculum very much.
  8. I recommend The Rainbow Science. I am not a math/science person, either, and was very happy with this curriculum. It is very engaging and to the point. The first year is introductory physics and chemistry, and the second year is biology and earth science. It is meant to be done 3 days a week. After the student reads the chapter, you ask questions to make sure they grasp the concept. There are weekly labs the kids should be able to do on their own, plus a lab book that includes reviews. There's a quiz every four chapters, which can be downloaded from the website. I felt this was a very good preparation for high school science. Cathy Duffy and Exodus books have reviews on it. https://www.beginningspublishing.com/
  9. I finished up White Rage (very worthwhile read) and I started two. I'm re-reading The Power of Habit while on the treadmill in the morning, reading specifically for things I think apply to learning math. Then I started Beneath a Scarlet Sky which was in our Jolabokaflod, but I'll probably set it aside for awhile because two library holds came in. So sometime midweek I'll be picking up How to be an Antiracist and The Starless Sea and try to get both of those done within 3 weeks. And I suspended my other 2 holds for awhile.
  10. I thought I'd update any of you following. I had my friend who is my math hero look over some work from my son and we went over problems together with him and me both there. She pointed out 2 things that he messed up on, 1 his hand writing has him mixing up numbers for example his 6 looked like a zero and he later wrote it like a zero so his answer was off. Next he was dropping zeros and forgot to add them later. Those were the main things that he was doing and I hadn't even noticed! It was a big help and he isn't as bad off as I thought after going through everything with her. Thank you all for your help!
  11. I am enjoying this thread a lot, not because I know much of what any of you are talking about, but because I am loving the idea that even though I don't understand math now I still can and help my kids. I am one who did not get any instruction on math my parents believed that if we wanted to learn we would on our own, they had books upon books and we were supposed to just read them or let them know that we wanted to learn more and even then it was hit or miss if they helped us (either by getting a tutor or a new book even). As a result the most math instruction I had was at 13 and I wanted to know more so I went through 1/2 of Saxon Algebra 1/2 all by myself, it only lasted a few months but I learned a lot in that time. I don't conceptual math but I'm trying everyday to teach something I just don't get and I am having successful results. I have found a math curriculum that is teaching me how to teach and I am pleased with it and I hope to better myself for my last 2. Anyways keep discussing because I am learning things and I am excited to see where you guys go in this conversation!
  12. Morning! The day started off with a bit of a whammy, so am recovering and moving forward. For today: Finish yesterday's list. School: math, languages, some reading, Christian Studies, exercise all around, piano. Dinner: roast veggies & meat, make sure we have stuff to use leftovers in a salad tomorrow Make a space for grace.
  13. I am a really big fan of the Singapore Science textbooks at that level, if that's the kind of thing you're looking for! We're getting ready to use them a second time. I used the text with the Structured Questions only. Something else you might want to look into is Build Your Library's plans for 7 and 8. She uses Elemental Science for 7 and a mix of things for 8.
  14. I'm looking for something my boys can do together if possible, with the intention of going to public high school in 9th. I wouldn't mind a neutral book as far as OE/NE goes, but definitely not YE as that does not align with our beliefs. I'm also not really a math/science person myself so something that makes it easy for mom would be good. I'm open to online classes or really anything at this point, although finances are a bit of a concern. Thanks in advance.
  15. I would agree with this. Right Start isn’t something you will spend 10 minutes on and then hand it off although it does get closer to that as the kids get older. I never intended to hand off early elementary math so it really isn’t as big a time commitment as some make it seem. I have a master’s in mechanical engineering and I have learned things in teaching my kids and I like how it explains some things I do that I didn’t explicitly know I was doing. The lessons are clear and aren’t too long, but you do have to commit to playing games and/or the practice sheets or you will be disappointed. Right Start is a big investment up front (but so was Saxon which I tried with my oldest), but there isn’t much added from year to year. My older kids have moved onto algebra without issues...well, no issues if you don’t count my son who would rather day dream than do math, but that isn’t Right Start’s fault.
  16. Can she dance well enough and relate to people well enough that teaching dance (perhaps a variety of types including ballroom) might be possible for her? I know a couple of people who actually did that successfully at local dance teacher level—not the sort of place where retired ballet stars teach. I would focus on mental health first, and second on lifeskills and life skills related learning. Try MUS for math going back to whatever level she needs to be at—even if it’s adding and subtracting and work up. Solid arithmetic will probably help her in life more than algebra. MUS has a “stewardship” math that might be good for her when she is ready. Some states have two or three types of diplomas — a regular one, and then “modified” and or “extended” (usually for IEP students not capable of a regular diploma). It sounds like your daughter may be better off with a “modified” type. They involve taking fewer academic classes than needed for a regular diploma. Maybe your state has that. They are usually not acceptable for college, military, or certain jobs—but it sounds like your daughter would not be able to handle those sorts of situations/jobs anyway. In addition to the possibility of working in dance, I suggest trying to get her into job training or your state work rehabilitation program following work on mental health and getting that stable enough— and along with life skills. You could start looking into what might be available, even if she’s not ready yet. Helping her to get some basic, no diploma required, job (scooping ice cream? Bagging groceries? ) when she’s ready / stable emotionally could also be a big help toward her being okay if she decides to leave at 18. Or even if she doesn’t take off at 18. I’d recommend that a number of credits be in health, culinary arts/cooking, Home economics, etc, — that are legitimate classes offered in schools and would help her with her own well being.
  17. Right Start is scripted. You won't have trouble teaching it unless you have trouble allocating time to teach it or organize the materials (which are real concerns - you have littles and it's a time consuming, but excellent, program). There is written practice, but also really good manipulatives. There are clear lessons. The focus is on the learning, not the written output. As to writing... I think *some* kids do take in content without writing. I think focusing on the written output as the only form of output is a big mistake. Discussions and experiences and so forth can be just as key. However, the writing part - taking notes, doing outlining, writing summaries, and eventually writing essays, writing detailed answers, writing lab reports, taking tests, etc. are key for most kids, not just for skills but also for content. However, for early elementary, I think that doesn't need to be a part of your thinking at all. In my experience, schools tend to think that if students aren't doing those things, then they can't be learning so even for kids who are just learning to write, they look for ways to show of physical products as evidence. For early elementary school, the only arena where kids really need to be physically writing is for learning handwriting. Some other output can be good too - art (which is great for small motor skills), and fun projects, and you writing down the little stories they tell, and sometimes math or other worksheets are good too... but really, it doesn't need to be the focus. After all, most kids can't really write much for awhile. And you can focus on the input - talking about the books you read, taking nature walks, watching fun educational shows together, making things, cooking together, allowing time for play. And then, at some point, it starts to shift slowly toward more written output... but not until late elementary or well into middle school sometimes, which is fine. And you can still think about some things as being more input driven. I have some courses for my high schoolers that are high on input and low on any written output, where discussion and readings are more key. In terms of textbooks, they can be a dirty word in homeschooling, but textbooks can be a great resources, especially as you get to the higher grades. Often, intro or remedial level college textbooks for high school or even middle school, depending on the student, can be the best basis for a curriculum. But also, they never become a true necessity. You can use other books, other bases of curriculum and learning.
  18. I wanted to add a follow-up for anyone who may come across this thread in the future. My ds did not take any math his senior year. It didn't not adversely effect him in terms of college admissions - he was accepted at every college he applied to, and was offered merit scholarships by all. Also, he earned an A- in his first college math class, taken his first semester of freshmen year. He was a little rusty, but wasn't afraid to ask for extra help when he needed it.
  19. For those homeschooling high school: High School Math Options: High School Biology Options: High School Chemistry Options: High School Physics Options: Also, Plum linked the high school info threads. These are all found as stickies at the top of the high school board.
  20. +1....but! This thread is specifically for people wanting to nerd out on math, people who think about math as having a certain place in life that it doesn't have across the board. [not me lol] You have a lot of experience homeschooling. You know what you're doing 🙂
  21. I love MP, but much of what I love are the people there. I have tried full cores, but that didn’t work for me and my kids never fit in nicely without substitutions. There is too much there for me to balance multiple children and I don’t give tests outside of spelling and Latin to my kids until at least middle school. I love their Latin form series and I really like their classical studies offerings. Both of those are products that I haven’t found elsewhere for that age range. We read and discuss the classical studies, go over the drill questions orally and call it good. I think the trick with MP is not to feel that you have to fill in every question and know that even the teachers in their school don’t give all the crazy long tests as written. Use what they have and make it your own. To the OP, my youngest is much like yours...taught himself to read at 3 and we went through AAR by his 5th birthday. Have you looked at Right Start math? My kids and I have all really enjoyed that program. At the lower levels it has very little writing involved. We are Catholic as well so I never considered BJU either.
  22. Until graduation?? I really don't use textbooks for most subjects. For the most part, we read and discuss. Subjects where I do use textbooks are math, some of our foreign language studies, and high school science (though I have created an ecology course that doesn't use a textbook). Reading whole books on various topics, watching Great Courses lectures and/or documentaries, writing papers, and discussing what we are doing represents the core of most of their coursework during high school. FWIW, I absolutely disagree with the sentiment "When do they stop being little kids and get textbooks?" b/c I disagree that textbooks are always the best sources of information or for learning. Textbooks are predigested information that has been preselected and filtered as a textbook committee's preferred body of knowledge. There is nothing inherently superior about a textbook. Trade books/whole books on subjects written by authors who are experts or passionate about a field are often superior resources. In addition, students have to read the material and decide for themselves what is the key information. Processing a large body of information and synthesizing it down into key points is a valuable skill (one completely lacking in ps textbook focused methodologies.) My older kids create their own notes of what they read. Some use their own system. Some use something similar to Cornell Notes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsR-10piMp4 (We do not do written narration. My kids discuss with me and create their notes as summaries.) High school science is the one area where textbooks have priority in our homeschool. There is way too much information/application/problem sets for me to figure out any other efficient means of teaching. But until high school credit worthy courses, whole books are the way we go.
  23. Questions: If he does go for Engineering, does he know which discipline he is interested in? One of my concerns, with experience in both Aerospace and Commercial projects, with what you have explained is that if he eventually graduates with a B.S. in Engineering, Recruiters are going to look at the time he took to get the degree and wonder about the Rigor of his time in the university. It will show them perseverance, but not much rigor. Also, at this time, his interests seem to point in the other direction, away from the School/College of Engineering. My DD is at UNC and she applied as "Undeclared" or "Undecided" and a lot of students do that and that reduces some of the stress for students who don't know when they are in High School what they want to Major in. One of the issues with Engineering and other STEM Majors is that, yes, there are lots of courses with prerequisites, so that does make it tougher to graduate in 4 years with a B.S. degree, assuming one comes in with the proper Math and Science courses from High School. I am sad to read that you don't think the Career Center in his university is a good place for him to be, because I wonder if he could take a battery of tests, about his interests and abilities, if it might give him some confirmation, about one Major or another, or, give him some additional ideas. IMO, that would be $ well spent, if it helped him figure this out correctly. The tests they give to people wanting to enlist in the military do that and I suspect they are pretty accurate, if the people answer the questions honestly. To get back onto the Disney program, the young woman we spoke with was working inside one of the tiny stores. I believe she was very happy with her experience working at WDW. Sometimes, one can get experience that doesn't seem like a great fit for a resume, doing something that seems absolutely unrelated and a waste of time, but when doing an interview for a first or second job out of school, I can easily see a corporate recruiter asking an applicant about their work-study experiences in school and responding, "oh, I did that too" or "Disney was cool". There must be more to the Disney College program than just standing outside in the heat and humidity all day in what would seem to be not such a great job to have. People upthread have mentioned "Networking". There are other things that may come with going there and doing what they need to be done, as a participant in the Disney College program. Those are like the "holistic" things on a university application that nobody knows for sure why they admit one applicant and reject another applicant, with very similar things in their background. One person can play the Saxophone and they need a Sax player for the band and that person is admitted? \ Much good luck to your DS! I have a cousin and a childhood friend who knew early on, (Junior High School) what they wanted to be when they grew up and that's what they did professionally during their working years. That makes it a lot easier. Now, there are so many more possible Majors to choose from. Even within the school/college of Engineering, there are many many Majors today that didn't exist a few years ago. The same is probably true in the school/college of Business.
  24. long answer: I'll second the idea of using Modern States. watch videos, and also read the assigned pages in the online textbook provided too. Get voucher for CLEP exam. and they will also reimburse test center fee after you take the exam. My slow to average middle daughter was able to use modernstates to pass 9 clep exams in about 8-9 months time. This was her "gap year" and wasn't trying to do it all at once in less time either. Her cc accepted all of them. She took 8 classes to finish associates (well, that will be done in a few more weeks, but... yeah). Originally that was the end goal. But now, she's attempting a bachelors at a university that takes a lot of transfer credit from clep, "ace transcript" (so study.com and sophia.org, and other). It's "just in case" degree in liberal studies. but still, this is more than we originally thought we were planning. Check your library for any access to CLEP practice tests. (or even REA prep books) In my state, there is a statewide free online access to the Peterson's brand of CLEP practice tests. Maybe your library systems have similar options. (edit to add: on our library website, it's part of online reference materials and called Testing and Education Reference Center powered by Peterson's. ask at your library.) Another option for practice exams is REA. You can buy printed book (new or used), check library, do just the online practice exams from them after you've done test prep. Dept. challenge exams: that can be interesting topic where it seems that no matter what, the student does not pass. Maybe there are some success stories out there. I keep waiting to hear them. I keep hearing the stories where it wasn't positive outcome. For public speaking and any intro statistics, look into a DSST exam option if your schools accept them. DSST are similar in some way to CLEP, but published by different company. Check your local CC if they accept those (you might have to ask about that under the older name for DSST which is DANTES. no, you don't have to be military to do them). I've heard good things about using a free course on Learner.org for statistics, with the caveat that it was the "older version of that course". I don't know how the "new" version is different,. look on learner.org for a course called "against all odds". Someone I know did that course as an adult after years had passed from high school math, and passed the DSST intro stats exam and it was a quick A to B point process. for some exams, my daughter found using the paid subscription on InstantCert to be helpful for the flashcards. And as she continues to pursue the idea of non traditional route to getting a bachelors degree, we are finding the information on the non paid portions of instantcert's message board (degreeforum) to be helpful. Not all degrees can or should be done with non traditional methods. But some work that way. Not sure what you degree you are going for. So that might not apply to you. In my 21 y.o daughter's case, she is going for a BA in liberal studies at one of the "big 3" that take almost the entire degree in transfer. That's a whole other discussion though. You might need an on campus degree for your studies. Or you might just take those courses you are interested in and transfer and mix/match game. I know that's not traditional. One thing to double check with the local state school that you think you might want to transfer to: will they accept the credits from the community college that are via CLEP, or is it the case they'll only accept actual courses from the CC for transfer and some of the specific CLEPS? I've heard stories in some places (not all of course), that student run into obstacles with that. Hopefully that's an non issue and you already checked that based on what you wrote. But the nuisance is important to ask them if you did not do that already. It will vary. The state school might say one thing if you completed the associates requirements, and another if you didn't. But I've heard stories where it mattered. So double check on that if you did not ask that nit picky transfer detail already. To the thoughts about how long will it take when you're not fresh from a similar high school course? Most of those REA guides I mentioned earlier suggest a 4-6 week planning time with their materials and that includes practice test time, and not super cramming the info either. And at least one study guide/lesson planner out there on this topic has high school students prepping for 2 CLEPs at once. I've been out of school for decades, but homeschooling and being part of my children's homeschool studies kept me more current than I realized on some of this. Maybe you'll have that feeling too.
  25. My public high school was rural and it had about 800 kids. Many were bused in from nearby villages and townships. The school offered Spanish and French. It also offered science through physics and math through calculus. This was in the 1980s so before distance learning expanded options.
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