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  1. Before you start, assess gaps in reading and math. I'm working on turning this into a LinkedIn Article. Homeschooled one all the way through high school, off to college soon; another 3 years younger also homeschooled since beginning. (Joint public school classes last 1 1/2 years for oldest; youngest was supposed to start some high school classes this year, if virtual school he'll be homeschooled full time this semester; this state allows dual homeschool and public school for 1 - 6 classes in high school.) I’ve been a volunteer literacy tutor for 26 years and have used a variety of assessments with my students. The fastest way to assess reading grade level is my free Quick Screen Reading Grade level test; it takes just a few minutes and is easy to give and score. Another option is the Schonell word test, a UK normed test. To see if additional phonics could help improve reading ability or reading speed, I have a free nonsense word test, another quick, easy assessment: To assess spelling, you can give the free Ayres test: To assess several different Language Arts areas, you can use the inexpensive computer adaptive Letsgolearn DORA test, $25: If your child is reading or spelling below grade level, my free online Syllables Spell Success lessons are a great start, they average +1.7 grade levels and are free to print and watch. They teach to a 12th grade level. If you read at least a grade above your current grade, it makes all the rest of your work much easier to complete, so a bit of extra work on reading up front can save time in the long run. I have used a variety of other reading programs with the hundreds of students I’ve taught over the last 26 years. My LinkedIn article “Building Good Reading Habits” explains what works best with older students and why, listing several good programs and why they work. Math is another area that is important to find and fix skill gaps. You can use math placement exams to find gaps and asses grade level. Saxon math is a traditional math program that has good placement tests for this use. To make sure that there are no foundational gaps, I would use the middle grades placement test and then another higher placement test for an older student. Singapore Math is an Asian math program that is good for those with a math or science bent. It also has placement tests that you can use to find gaps. It is mastery based so it is easier than Saxon to use to remediate gaps, but can be harder for someone taught traditional math to use. Math Mammoth is similar to Singapore Math but a bit easier to use. It also has placement tests you can use to find gaps: It also has a variety of options you can use to make it easy and inexpensive to use for remediation. Letsgolearn also has several computer adaptive math tests, ADAM K7 is $25. They also have Pre-Algebra and Algebra assessments. For an older student who needs remediation with the basics, another good option is Lial’s Basic College Math. The book says College right on the title, which is a bonus for someone with low self esteem. It can be tackled by an upper elementary to high school student who just needs a bit of support. It does not have enough repetition for some students, but is a strong program that works quickly. The 8th edition is usually inexpensive used: There are also thousands of free Kahn Academy videos that can be used to build up math skills. It is best to start at a lower grade level and master the basics so that you can do well in the long run. Most of my students with math gaps have trouble with fractions, decimals and percent. I like to convert back and forth between all 3 and also include a money conversion. For example, 25 cents, ¼, .25, 25%. Converting to money holds their interest better and makes things more concrete. There is also a stand alone series that focuses on each of these areas, Key to Fractions, Key to Decimals, and Key to Percent. Here is a link to Key to Fractions:
  2. I'll be homeschooling for the first time this fall and am getting hung up on what Math curriculum to use. My son going into second grade did fine with Everyday Math in first grade, my son going into 5th grade struggled with 4th grade math, they used Zearn last year. I'm planning to homeschool my older son from now through the middle school years for sure. He has struggled quite a bit with school in general and has focus issues. We may send our younger son back to public school to finish out elementary. I like the looks of Math U See but am concerned it would be difficult for my younger son to return to school if we go that route. I'm considering doing Math U See for my older son and something else for my younger such as Singapore Math or Math Mammoth. I'd love to hear recommendations.
  3. Mmm. Would I ever go to a public forum to ask a basic question that could be easily learned by googling? No. I wouldn't come to here or facebook and ask how to withdraw my kid from school. This is different from if I were involved in a conversation with a friend and tossed a question in that was relevant to the conversation instead of pulling out my phone. Sometimes I will ask a question that has been asked a zillion times, (and I will search it first and read the threads, but still ask) because I feel like I need personal feedback on my situation. I did personally start a thread asking what to do after Singapore Math even though I *knew* how many times that question had been asked. But I'm on a group for Singapore Math users, and I have used it EB-6 and am in Dimensions, so I feel like I can provide help. We have a LOT of crisis schoolers right now. They are less annoying by a lot because they have already looked into and picked/considered a math program, yay! There are a lot of questions, and a lot of ones that are personal but repetitive (like my what to do after Singapore thread.) But I swear if another person asks what manipulatives they need for K, first or second grade I am going to unfollow the group. I answered the question the first 10 times I saw it, but it seems like it's being posted once an hour. If you scroll down the page AT ALL, at least 2 of the last 10 posts will be someone asking the same question. That's just laziness.
  4. I just graduated myself from 19 years of homeschooling. My SN youngest graduated HS this year and he homeschooled K-12. Dd graduated from college this year and she homeschooled K-8 1/2. I homeschooled with a completely unreasonable toddler/preschooler in the house, but he was kind enough to nap til he was 6. I tell new homeschoolers they can make decisions one subject at a time. It doesn’t occur to most of them that they can choose their math curriculum, order it, start it, do it for a while and then decide about the next subject. They assume there’s a magic day when you have to start everything all at once. If that feels stressful and overwhelming there’s no good reason not to ease into it. I think Bravewriter is awesome. I used it when the whole “program” was a 3-ring binder. I’m jealous it’s so much more now. I also think if people spend some time with Singapore Math it can demystify the confusing parts of common core. It’s cheap too.
  5. I just did this today. I have only one homeschooled-from-the-start child who is entering her 12th grade year. We are not and never have been, part of any sort of homeschool group, co-op , or community, other than these forums. I have always worked part time and moved to full time (half working from home) when my child started 10th grade. Advice was going to another family with an only child who will be in 6th grade. They are 100% new to the whole idea but willing to put thought and effort into it. Both parents work full time, and one is an essential worker who must work onsite. They have arranged their schedules so one of them will be home at all times but the non-essential worker will be working during his time at home. Our schools still have not called what will happen in the fall and they are just done waiting so have decided to homeschool for one year only (hopefully). They don't mind if it takes effort but they really just wanted me to give them some vetted curriculum recommendations and any general tips on what to prioritize. 1. I gave some specific curriculum suggestions based on what worked (or didn't) for us and what kind of time/effort the parents had available. Specifically Singapore Math 6A and 6B, Story of the World, WWS, and Analytical Grammar. That exact content of science and history are not likely to matter as long as there is exposure to new concepts, ideas, and skills. 2. Then I told them not to stress a whole lot because 6th grade is kind of a "lost year" in our local schools. I am close to a family who went on sabbatical for one year in a foreign country when their child was in the 6th grade. She learned a great deal about a lot of things, but she attended a non-American school that did not align with what was happening at her home school. At all. She was 100% fine returning as a 7th grader. She "lost" a year of math but that just knocked her down from "advanced" to "normal." Basically telling them to not fret. If it is only for one year and it does not go well, it will be OK. 3. Don't let the school bully them. Our local district is notoriously hostile to homeschoolers. They have no power over them and are very unlikely to be a help. Just do your thing and be confident that it will be OK.
  6. Whether you’ve just pulled your child out of school or have been preparing to homeschool since they were babies, taking the first step toward homeschooling can be overwhelming. It’s completely normal to feel a little nervous about this. You are not alone! We’ve all at some point been pretty much where you are. Panicked and overwhelmed. Not to worry, the Hive Mind here at the Well-Trained Mind Forums have put together this letter and link fest to get you started on your path to homeschooling. So grab some coffee and your favorite snack and get ready to begin your adventures in homeschooling! The Well-Trained Mind, 4th Edition and Website The book provides step-by-step instruction to give your child an academically rigorous, comprehensive education from preschool through high school. Susan Wise Bauer lays out the plan for you and recommends curriculum to put that plan to action. The website gives you everything you need to get started on your homeschool journey. It includes articles, explanation videos, audio lectures, planning worksheets and anything else you might need to start this journey. If you can’t find it there, then you are already in the right spot to ask your question. The forum has some extremely knowledgeable veteran homeschoolers, who have been there, done that. Seriously, you could stop right here and click on those two links and you’ll find all of the information you need. Step One – What are your state’s homeschool laws? Every state’s laws are different. Some states have little to no regulation and some are a little more high maintenance. Getting to know your state’s homeschool laws will help you understand what is expected of you as the homeschool parent and may determine how you want to proceed with homeschooling. Where to find rules and regulations Find your State Department of Education website here Pro-Publica Homeschool Regulations by State What you’ll need to know to legally begin homeschooling: When your child reaches compulsory age, the age where school is required. You will not need to fill out any forms before that age. How to withdraw your child from school and your rights as a parent that wishes to homeschool. What forms (if any) are required to send to my State Department of Education to legally begin homeschooling. How to deliver them (certified or hand-delivered) and what proof they will provide that you are legally homeschooling. If there is time limit from withdrawing my child and sending in the forms. If there are any subject requirements or any sequence that needs to be followed, such as state history in 4th grade. What records (if any) will need to be kept; such as attendance, samples of work, grades, portfolios. Step Two – How do you see yourself homeschooling? Why are you considering homeschooling? Is this something that you plan to do long term or as a temporary emergency situation? What do you want for your child as a result of homeschooling? What are your goals? What is your educational philosophy? Does your child have any special needs for learning? Learning disabilities? Advanced/gifted? Mental health? Physical health? What method would work for both you and your kids? Reading lots of books together and discussing? Open and go, no prep? Video lessons? Scripted lessons that tell you exactly what to say? Multiple ages? Together or independent? What questions do you have? What worries you? What is your Worldview? In homeschooling, some parents want materials that reflect their faith. Many of the resources you'll encounter are Christian, written specifically for Christian families. Christian homeschool curricula and resources reflect a range of different Christian views about science, literature, religion, and more. You should ask yourself if you want Christian or secular resources or if you might be comfortable with either. If you're concerned about issues of faith in your materials, you can research or ask others what viewpoints they represent. Resources listed below are marked with an *. Neutral Science is science that isn't completely straightforward in it's religious views. Often, it is the result of religious authors secularizing their work to open up to a wider audience. The key topics of concern are The Big Bang and Evolution. They may omit the topics altogether, misrepresent or downplay them as theories. It's important to know what the worldview of the author is in order to ensure it's a match to your own. If you would like a quick summary of what to look for in a secular science curriculum, Pandia Press Presents: Why Neutral Science Isn't Neutral, which the podcast goes more in depth. The Homeschool Resource Roadmap lists all science and every other subject and categorizes it by worldview. With history it has to do with whether the stories of a certain religion are handled as historical fact, while others are handled as myths. A secular history program would discuss religion since it is a major part of history at many points, but would avoid ascribing fact status to any religion's stories. Determining your homeschool philosophy It’s perfectly normal to have no idea yet. This is a process. You may find yourself revisiting this idea over the years as your kids get older and you have more experience under your belt. This hard work will help you solidify your homeschooling vision and get the results you want to see for your family, but it takes time. Homeschooling: Which Model Is Right for You? What Kind of Homeschooler Are You? How to Write a Homeschooling Philosophy Statement But how will I know what to teach and when to teach it? Core Knowledge Sequence - Free downloadable sequence of topics to cover by grade (not Common Core) What Your __ Grader Needs to Know - by E.D. Hirsch Jr. - More detailed Core Knowledge sequence in book form World Book - Pre-Common Core Free Printables No Time for Step Two? – You just withdrew your kid from school and need to get something started right now! In most emergency cases, the best thing to do is take a break. I know that may seem counter-intuitive if your child is “behind”, generally speaking taking a break to fall in love with learning again is just what the student needs. This article is interesting because it documents the deschooling process without even realizing. He's initially anxious and stressed about all of the free time he suddenly has. That is a result of being over-regulated his entire life. It makes him feel pressured to squeeze in as much learning in as in as little time possible. Over the weeks, he realizes learning is happening in all sorts of ways and he's so much more relaxed by the end. Deschooling can be a bunch of books laying around they might like to read, watching science documentaries, narrowing the focus to one thing they really like and playing that up or finally getting to the one thing they always wanted to do, but never had the time or opportunity to do, for example learning to bake. Let them get bored, then give them plenty of options to find their way out of that boredom by keeping interesting books around, playing board games, creative play, and so on. It gives you time to spend with them and gives them time to learn how to be a kid again. The school mentality is really hard to shake. It takes time to reset. Open and Go Curriculum options to tide you over until you figure something out I’ve linked directly to the publishers to help give you a better understanding of the curriculum. You can find many of these at Rainbow Resource to get free shipping if your order is over $50 or Amazon. *non-secular Free - $25 The library – your library can become your refuge, your librarian can become your greatest resource. Check you library’s website for free resources. My library offers all of this for free with a library card: ABC Mouse, IXL, Rosetta Stone, Lynda, Great Courses, Muzzy, High School Courses, High School and College Admission Test Prep, Creative Bug (great for electives and extra-curriculars), literacy tutors, biography and cultural studies, Hoopla(digital downloads and streaming), Kanopy and Kanopy Kids (doc and video streaming), the local newspaper, The LA Times, The NY Times, National Geographic Kids, Overdrive (audiobooks), science reference center, World Book, and so much more. Copywork, narration, dictation– Choose sentences from books you are reading and have them copy them. Ask them to summarize the chapter that was just read. Dictate the copied sentences and summarizations to them and have them write it out with correct capitalization and punctuation. Works with all subjects. Teaches grammar, punctuation, spelling, memory-work, reading comprehension, and writing. Best to stick with the 3 R’s to start. If you have more than one child that might be using the same curriculum, look for PDFs and invest in a Black and White duplex laser printer. Also, Ebooks make it easier for everyone to read along. Shopping for Curriculum Rainbow Resource Sells just about everything your homeschool needs and usually at a little bit of a discount. Cathy Duffy Her website and book are extremely helpful when curriculum shopping. She provides a thorough review, with descriptions of strengths and weaknesses, the method/style and links to where to purchase it. Basically, Yelp for homeschoolers. Homeschool Buyers Co-Op Permanent and limited time discounts on homeschool curriculum The Homeschool Resource Roadmap This is the ultimate list of homeschool curriculum by subject, method, and worldview. Amazon There are many used books available. Language Arts English Lessons Through Literature by Barefoot Ragamuffin English Lessons Through Literature (ELTL) is a complete language arts program for elementary and middle school students. Each level has a textbook and an optional workbook which can be purchased separately. ELTL is a unique program which combines the gentleness of Charlotte Mason's methods with the thoroughness of classical methods. Each level of this program has three lessons per week for thirty-six weeks for a total of 108 lessons per year. Cottage Press Language Lessons for Children - Absolutely lovely Charlotte Mason style early elementary includes reading selections (included or free public domain downloadable or library), copywork, picture study, nature study, narration, and dictation. Core Knowledge Curriculum - Free downloadable for grades pre-K-8 Content-rich Language Arts, Science, History and Geography. Phonics Ordinary Parents Guide to Teaching Reading – Well-Trained Mind Press one book, used for for $2 Teach Your Child To Read in 100 Easy Lessons – one book, used go for $2 on Amazon Explode the Code – EPS – supplemental workbooks Bear Necessities and Dancing Bears – Sound Foundations Phonics and reading support for those who need additional work – dyslexic support Progressive Phonics- free online Writing Writing with Ease and Writing With Skill – Well-Trained Mind Press, grades 1-10 Wordsmith Series - Common Sense Press, grades 4-12 Killgallon Series grades 1-12 – check for used on Amazon Grammar First Language Lessons – Well-Trained Mind Press The Blue Book of Grammar and Punctuation Spelling Megawords – EPS – dyslexic support Math MEP (Mathematics Enhancement Programme) – Free Scripted printables, grades 1-6 Comprehensive School Mathematics Program (CSMP) – Free printables Key to Series inexpensive, topic-based workbooks for filling in skill gaps Key to Fractions, Key to Decimals, Key to Percents, Key to Measurements, Key to Algebra, Key to Geometry Math Mammoth grades 1-7 Light Blue – by grade Dark Blue – by topic/skill Math Facts That Stick - Well-Trained Mind Press Addition, Subtraction, Multiplication, and Division are individual books that solidify math facts. Singapore Math Dimensions (PK-5) or Primary Mathematics (1-5) Primary offers supplemental materials to customize to your child's needs Extra Practice: More practice on the same level as the workbook. Challenging Word Problems: Additional, more challenging multi-step word problems. Intensive Practice: More challenging, often multi-step or puzzle-like work covering the same concepts as the workbook. Khan Academy - free, online History Story of the World grades 1-6* can be done with multiple ages and levels Many secularize this series because of it's beloved storytelling style of history. can be done with just the books or can add more activity book includes questions, recommended reading, map and coloring work, projects Amazon has many used books Big History Project - Free, online grades 7-12 Writing integrated into work Covers multiple disciplines of science World History Highly adjustable by grade, content, length - Khan Academy, DK books have their own versions Science Earlybird Start-Up Science 1, 2, 3 and 4 by Singapore Math grades 1-2 - no teachers guide, answers in back Quark Chronicles – Barefoot Ragamuffin Lit-based science* The Story of Science by Joy Hakim 3 textbooks, many used available on Amazon, student/teacher guide not required More than $25 All-in-One/Boxed Curriculum Buying the whole year at once can be a frightening and expense proposition. They can be overkill at times. At the same time, a cohesively planned boxed kit, where everything is already done for you, is a good way to sort through works and what doesn’t. Oak Meadow Bookshark Christian Light Education * The Good and the Beautiful* Memoria Press* Sonlight* Sonlight Short Term Homeschooling - These complete, short term homeschooling curriculum packages include all you need to homeschool for the first 9-weeks: daily lesson plans, book notes, teaching tips, all the books and materials. Each package comes with a 30-day guarantee. Just Book Collections by Sonlight - Rainbow Resource Starter Curriculum Kit *both secular and non-secular options All-in-One Language Arts (Literature, Grammar, Vocabulary, and Spelling) Logic of English – Foundations – ages 4-7 Lightning Literature Michael Clay Thompson (MCT) – packages Learning Language Arts through Literature (LLATL) Phonics Phonics & Reading Pathways – Dorbooks - workbooks All About Reading – All About Learning Press Spelling All About Spelling – All About Learning Press Apples and Pears – Sound Foundations - dyslexic support Writing Easy Writing – Easy Grammar Systems Works only on varied sentence structure, One book for grades 1-10 Michael Clay Thompson (MCT) Writing series Teaching Writing through Guided Analysis by Treasured Conversations teaches students that they are involved in more than simply completing assignments; they are authors embarking on the adventure of painting mental images in readers’ minds. Strong sentences and paragraph development are taught through engaging stories. Lessons incorporate scaffolded support so that students experience success and build confidence in their writing abilities. Geared toward 3rd to 5th graders. Available as 2 PDF downloads, a teacher’s book and a student workbook Grammar Easy Grammar – Easy Grammar Systems – grades 1-12 Math - *most math is open and go Teaching Textbooks online grades 3-12 CTC Math Online video-based – K-12 MathUSee Saxon Math - K-Calculus History Beautiful Feet Books – grades 1-12 Literature-based history, requires purchasing or borrowing from the library Science Memoria Press* History of Science - Beautiful Feet Books, grades 3-7 Mystery Science - subscription model - video with linked lessons MPH Singapore Science - grades 1-6 Well-Trained Mind Forum Links You can often find the best threads pinned at the top of the forum. The Big Grade Planning Link List Link to threads that list by grade what curriculum everyone is using going back years. Super helpful when you are looking for ideas. Free Homeschool Curriculum & Resources Master list of on-line classes... High School motherlode #1 -- Starting High School / Tests + links to past threads! High School motherlode #2 -- Transcripts / Outsourcing + links to past threads! Inspiration and Motivation Susan Wise Bauer’s A Day at Our House Series Homeschooling at the Helm by Treasured Conversations (8FilltheHeart) Homeschooling at the Helm illustrates how to design personalized courses with your children based on their interests and with resources selected via their input. When children actively engage in their own educational plans and participate in the actual course development, ownership over their academic pursuits leads to mastery of content and encourages further intellectual pursuits. Available as a PDF download.
  7. I was going to suggest Beast Academy but you've btdt, lol! My DS says he hates math (even though he is good at it). Like Little Green Leaves wrote, I think he looks at it as a chore. He is rising 11th and we are finishing Geometry and will be starting Algebra II. He has REALLY disliked geometry mostly because I think he is confused by the diagrams. With Algebra it was word problems that took the longest; he just could not wrap his head around what was being asked and it was frustrating for him. He was relieved by factoring or anything he saw as "more straightforward," more literal. We used Singapore Math until Pre-Algebra in 7th and that was okay for him. My DD's LOVE Singapore Math but they like math more in general. Is there any part of mathematics that your daughter does like? With arithmetic, there are so many different topics, i.e., measurement, fractions, geometry, etc. Maybe one topic she will like more than the others. and you can focus on it a little longer or combine topics. If she likes geometry for example you could incorporate measurement activities into the study of different shapes. Is your DD more into stories and language arts? Math Detective is a fun yet solid supplement that my rising 4th grader enjoys. It's a book of scenarios that require math to answer questions: I usually incorporate some literature in with math—I love the Marilyn Burns books that help you do this, for example: Marilyn Burns has LOTS of excellent mathematics resources that are worth checking out. I also like to include exploration projects into math which take the concepts "off" the page. For example, using Skittles or M & Ms for mean, median, and mode and for graphing projects. Or creating a survey and then using the data for fractions, stats, and/or graphing (one of my kids is using Skittles to create an accurate circle graph showing percentages of specific colors in a package). She also will be designing a house floor plan using concepts of measurement, area, and perimeter. has lots of "real life" projects for reasonable cost. I've purchased these recently: and
  8. For some reason, it looks like Rainbow Resource is not going to carry this math program any longer. They have a few odds and ends, but it says it won't be restocked. Then I checked out Christian Books, and it is the same thing there too! What gives? Is the only place to purchase this Singapore Math's website?!
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  11. There used to be a list on the Singapore math website that listed which specific manipulatives are needed for each version and level of Singapore math. I cannot find this for the life of me! Does anyone know where to find this information? Thanks!
  12. Hello all! Question about math curriculum for my 5 year old. Background: I began our HS journey when we were thrust into quarantine on March 17. I had already planned to HS for 2020-21, which would have been my first year of HS, but since I already had all the curriculum, I decided to get a head start. I had been a high school teacher for 8 years, and I was not scared, worried or apprehensive about teaching my own children, so I dove in. Not a good idea to start with next years' work, but we survived. Also background: a good math teacher friend of mine recommended Singapore math because it teaches the concepts behind everything. I opted for Singapore Math Dimensions when I was choosing curriculum back in February, mostly because I liked the illustrations better than Primary Math, and I figured it would all be about the same anyway. It's ok for DD (6), who had been in public kindergarten doing Common Core anyway, but DS (who was finishing up his Pre-4 year) ended up throwing a fit whenever we had to do math. Frankly, it was a struggle for the first 8 weeks of quarantine to try to get him to do anything, really...Long story short, I revamped our Language Arts and math to be a little more like preschool and less textbook oriented (aka, I pretty much threw Dimensions out for DS!). It was a whole lot more fun for all of us, and he doesn't fight me nearly as much to do "school" but it really seems to have to be hands on for him for anything. Except when I read to them. He just balks at writing, or doing anything he's unsure of, actually. Anyway, I'm looking towards the start of school and as I was looking up tools to help DD with addition, I discovered Kate Snow. I haven't actually tried her techniques, being on summer break and all. She's just come out with a Kindergarten Math curriculum (that they sell on WTM Press website, aka this one!), and it seems really lovely and gentle and hands-on. So different from the Dimensions book we were doing. I am highly tempted to get that curriculum for DS, and just sell my nearly brand new Dimensions Kindergarten books. Does anyone have any insight or experience with her new curriculum? Any advice about math for my little DS?
  13. You can get a test from letsgolearn, ADAM K7 for $25. It used to be linked to remediation Khan videos. You can use Saxon and Singapore math placement tests to find gaps. I would suggest motivated student learn multiplication and division, work through Kahn academy starting at grade 1, work through Lial's basic college math, used copies of older editions are cheap, start at $7. I would also look into a free or cheap tutor to help, there are some teens offering free math tutoring now, for example: You can self drill multiplication and division with apps and flashcards. Math Mammoth might be another cheap way to build up missing math skills. CLEP natural sciences may be a way to get a science credit, there are a lot of online and self study options, IMO one of the easier CLEP tests.
  14. Help! 😶 DD11 (12yo this fall): Has done really well with Singapore math K-5... It was getting a bit stale so we hopped over to Beast Academy 5 for a bit... Which was fun until it got so laborious and drawn-out that she lost momentum... I freaked out a bit, ordered Singapore 6A / 6B, which we hopped back to last year... Though Beast was intriguing, fresh, and fun at first, and she did pretty well with it, I could tell she was really relieved at the cut-and-dried-ness of Singapore (as in, do X lesson, finish XYZ pages...and you're done!). Beast was just a little too open-ended for her (high need for control) in that she was never sure if a problem would take 5 minutes or 45 minutes. She's almost done with 6A. We took a break for summer. 6A has been very do-able for her. We need about 90 school days to finish 6A and 6B, by my calculations, which will put us at about halfway through this new school year-ish. And then what? Please help! I've read so many threads on "what to do after Singapore 6B... I've googled and combed and read... have read blogs, have read WTM threads... ...I have bugged my poor DH about it repeatedly... ...and I'm still super-anxious about it. 🥺 According to "state standards" (which I don't put a ton of stock in, BTW): 7th Grade here = Pre-Algebra; 8th Grade = Algebra. I don't know if DD is 6th Grade or 7th at this point. She's young for 7th, but that's how many years we've been schooling, if that makes sense. I know grade level doesn't matter for homeschooling. This will be our 8th year homeschooling and I love that no one has to fit into one particular grade level. BUT.... There is a possibility DD will go to public high school or end up dual-enrolling at a community college. She has always scored very-highly on math assessments. She's pretty mathy, though she'd frankly rather spend her time socializing and doing a variety of other things. IOW, she doesn't want to spend 2 hours / day doing math or doing math for fun, though she probably has the intelligence to do it. I'm thinking: Finish Singapore 6A / 6B. Then begin Jacob's Elementary Algebra. For those who've done this, would you "budget" 1 year or 2 years to get through Jacob's? (I know it depends on the student, but, in general?) Where would this leave a student? Would they have finished what people label as "Pre-Algebra"? Or are they completing "Algebra I"? To make matters more confusing, personally, my cohorts and I did "Algebra I in 9th Grade". It sounds like it's all shifted to the grade prior (8th), not unlike many "standards". And, to just add one more layer of questioning...I'm really impressed with AOPS. Despite BA not being a great fit, I'm still open to using it as a supplement or circling back around to it or to using AOPS Pre-Algebra. I guess, in a nutshell, I know DD is capable with keeping up with her age and/or grade and/or "standards" and can probably exceed / go to a higher level. I don't want to provide a disservice by causing her to be "behind" if she has to enter group learning in math at some point. Please be kind. This issue has made me really anxious for some time and I just need to make a plan and move forward. I'm open to different viewpoints, but I hope the thread won't end up in any sort of debate about standards, grade levels, etc. I just need some sound advice from people who have BTDT with these particular curricula, this particular issue, who have had students go through middle school math, and who can maintain an even keel. 😃 Thank you so much in advance.
  15. I’m in PA and I’ve included my objectives page for my rising first grader below. Mine is a little intense because that’s how we roll 😂 Everyone in my house functions better when they have a lot to do. Formatting came out super weird and I’m not sure how to fix it because I’m willfully tech challenged. English -Reinforce and enrich existing knowledge of grammar, spelling and vocabulary. -Continue to develop reading skills including an emphasis on phonics and sight words. -Will include several read-a-loud novels and non-fiction titles Texts: Logic of English by Denise Eide Arithmetic -Complete Common Core requirements for first grade in this subject area. -To include: adding and subtracting whole numbers, adding within 100 and subtracting multiples of 10, measurement, and part-whole relationships. Texts: Singapore Math Level 1A by Marshall-Cavendish Education Singapore Math Level 1B by Marshall-Cavendish Education Science -Science instruction will focus on Astronomy. -Weekly experiments and hands on exposure when appropriate will be included. Text: Exploring Creation with Astronomy by Jeannie Fulbright Social Studies -Enrich existing knowledge of history from 1815-Present. Texts: Story of the World Vol. 4 by Susan Wise Bauer Physical Education and Health -incorporation of exercise into everyday activity -Yoga -Weekly gym and swim. -continued discussion of importance of nutrition, fire safety, human growth and development, and transmission of disease Music -Continue ongoing music instruction including piano, music theory and sight reading through Faber and Faber. Texts: My First Piano Adventure Lesson Book B By Nancy and Randall Faber My First Piano Adventure Writing Book B By Nancy and Randall Faber Art -Expand skill in the use of familiar media including pottery, charcoal, oil pastel, watercolor, pen and ink and mixed media. -Develop a deeper knowledge of art movements and specific artists. -Field trips in this area when appropriate. Text: Art Lab for Kids by Susan Schwake Language -Develope vocabulary and knowledge of Latin grammar. Text: Song School Latin Book 2 by Christopher Perrin
  16. Any thoughts on starting a first grader on RightStart B when he hasn't done A? He's fairly but not crazy strong in math (in the advanced math group in his public school, but not ahead grade levels or anything). And he had the good fortune of being in a public school that offered Singapore math, which I know focuses on mental math. He's still not as strong in this area though as I'd like. He is comfortable with the number line, and with addition and subtraction- but he brute forces it each time, counting each number up or down. If you were to ask him 30 minus 10, he would sometimes count down by ones, and he would definitely do that every time you asked him 30-9. His subitizing skills aren't very strong. And I think he'd benefit from manipulatives and a real focus on the power of 5s and 10s in calculation. But he likes math now, Singapore math is pretty rigorous and isn't *not* working for him- there will be curricular continuity when/if he does return to school. I could just get the next set of Singapore math books to work through at home. Thoughts? Other suggestions?
  17. I am having a really hard time deciding between Primary, Dimensions, or Math in Focus. (I'm not interested in Math Mammoth or the other 2 flavors of Primary.) This is for The Girl, btw. I need a good, well-laid out TM to teach me how to teach this. I have the procedure part down, pretty much. DImensions 5 isn't done yet. Not that it matters as she will need to start lower, anyway. Has the fewest books to juggle. Primary has difficult (to me) to use Home Instructor's Guides. Been around the longest, though. MiF is really expensive (and yes, I need the TM's). Does it add a bunch of stuff like the Common Core and Standards versions of Primary do? It seems to encourgae calculator use which I am NOT a fan of. Really public-schooly feeling. What says the Hive?
  18. Hi Everyone, I have quite a large age gap between my youngest and my next youngest child. That means I have to go back and research all of the materials that have changed since I last taught this grade. So sorry for all of the questions today.... I used Singapore Primary math for my older children and loved it. I felt like it really set them up for sucess in middle school. It took me awhile to figure out that I MUCH prefer the standards version of primary math compared to the US version because of the built in reviews and layout of the teacher's manual. I now see that they have released a new Dimensions version of Singapore math. Can anyone tell me a bit about this new version and how it compares? Thanks!
  19. I am a first time homeschooler, who decided back in February to HS my kids for the 20-21 school year, and was so excited about the prospect, I had all my curriculum set by the time we had to pull the kids out because of COVID-19 in March. I attempted to start them on their curriculum for next year, but we encountered some issues, particularly with my little man, who just turned 5 in April. He had a REALLY rough time having Mommy suddenly as his teacher instead of Miss Amy, and there was much weeping and gnashing of teeth for the first 8 weeks, until I figured out I was pushing him too much and expecting too much from him. I pretty much tossed everything I had started with him, and began getting lesson ideas from Preschool bloggers that had lots of fun hands on activities. It was a night and day difference. We took a break from school about 3 weeks ago, and he seems to have a completely different attitude now towards school (and me as his teacher!). I had originally chosen Memoria Press because I loved their read alouds and their enrichment activities; also I really loved the literature they do for grades 1 and 2. I decided to do AAR for our phonics, however, because I'd heard rave reviews about it. Also, I decided on Singapore Math Dimensions because a) a math teacher friend recommended it b) I figured it would keep the kids up to speed if they ever have to attend public school down the road and c) I picked Dimensions over Standard and Primary because the pictures were prettier (I know, I know...!). I have posted about the struggles with math elsewhere. So far, we're doing well with AAR. We haven't started handwriting yet, and while I was originally planning on doing MP's copybooks, the more I see how my son needs hands-on learning, the less I'm liking the copybook idea for now (although I totally love the idea for myself!), and I've purchased HWOT as an introduction to writing for him, and maybe we'll introduce the copybooks later. So...actually, I guess I'm really not following MP at all really, except for the read aloud schedule and the enrichment activities, as well as art, music and poetry. I WANT to do the recitation with the kids, because I see how easily my daughter memorizes things and I'm totally on board with giving the kids a bunch of handy facts to memorize so that later, they won't struggle so much trying to memorize that sort of thing. But, frankly, I don't see my kids either standing there stiffly and doing a formal recitation like MP recommends. Also, my son seems to have trouble memorizing things like his address, birthday, and until just recently, the alphabet, so much so that I'm investigating whether he has dyslexia (although he memorizes lines from his favorite TV shows with no problem and rattles them off during meals!). Anyway, all that background to say, how would you ladies recommend approaching the recitation bit? I've also seen how much more pleasurable songs make memorization for both me and the kids. But MP doesn't have their recitation put to songs, and I'm not sure if there is a curriculum/company that does have all that sort of thing already put to song. I guess I'm just looking for ideas about how to implement recitation with a wiggly boy who might have trouble memorizing things?
  20. @Violet Crown and @EKS As another person whose homeschool decision was influenced by Hirsh, I've been amazed to see how badly the core-based plan seems to have been implemented in some schools. I'm not really sure what the disconnect is, but I have some thoughts. I've been volunteering as a homework helper at the same place for 6 years. Some of the schools have grand visions for educating the kids, but I think there are missing pieces that aren't recognized. My younger was in K when I started volunteering, so in a sense I've been able to see some of the kids grow up beside my own. One problem is that the kids often have small vocabularies (right now I'm working on phonics with a small group - only 2/6 knew the word 'tan', for instance). So, the schools have the goal of teaching about photosynthesis, and they do it using nonfiction reading. I'm a fan and did a lot of this with my own kids, as Hirsh recommends. But, instead of great illustrated books, the kids have worksheets full of words that they can't quite manage like 'light', that they are supposed to read and answer questions about. In answering the questions, the kids learn to copy the sentence that matches the phrasing of the question while bypassing any thought about what it means. Meanwhile, I've had my kid draw a picture of it, or build a model. It leaves Hirsh being criticized because it isn't working for a lot of kids, but it's not working because it's often poorly done. It's the same with common core math (which wasn't his doing, I don't think - his math was pretty generic if I remember correctly). Helping the kids with common core math...ugh. I end up doing a lot of it because the older volunteers don't know what they want. I recognize lots of bits from doing Singapore math with my own kids, but it's like they took the outward appearance of Singapore and made it useless. I've complained before that, while Singapore teaches regrouping, so that 8+5 = 10 + 3 (which, once I explain, the older folks are able to help with), what they're assigned is to draw it so that they can 'show' how it they never learn the regrouping because they are constantly just counting sticks or dots. It takes the appearance, but misses the point. It's super frustrating because I'd argue that, using Hirsh's plan, my kids knew more at the end of elementary that I knew at the end of middle school at least, and seem to know more than some college grads about general knowledge stuff. Yet, it's criticized all around for not working when it mostly seems to be poorly done. Sorry for the threadjack, Ordinary Shoes!
  21. Last year I bought it from Rainbow Resource, but I noticed the same thing as you this year. So I bought them from the Singapore Math website this year. The price was the same as RR and they had free shipping, so it was still a good deal.
  22. In Singapore Math, they initially introduce simple 'x + 4 = 6' problems, but then they introduce simple graphing by having kids fill out a table, so that for x + 2 = y' they write what y would be for various values of x and then make the simple line. Then they tie the equations to word problems - for every 4 dollars that Sally gets, she gives Fred 1... I'm not sure how that sank in with my younger - I'll find out in a week or so when we start back to school - but kiddo seemed to get it at the time. Older was comfortable with both 'solving for X' and 'solving for y using different values of x' at a very early age so probably isn't helpful as a means of comparison. But, at least one standard program teaches 'y varies with x' relationships prior to pre-A.
  23. I know people around here like Singapore Math :-). The only curriculum we own is Beast Academy, although we don't use it that much -- the puzzle are a lot of fun, though, so it's worth taking a look if he likes math. What's wrong with Common Core math, by the way?
  24. I have used RightStart A, B, and C and plan on switching to Singapore 3A next year. It's a combination of many things but ultimately I felt we needed a change. Any advice from those of you who use Singapore as your main math program? Any manipulatives you suggest I purchase? Do I need the Extra Practice Workbooks or are the regular workbooks enough? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Should I expect to spend extra time each day prepping? I see the HIG has lots of prepping instructions and was wondering if these are necessary or more for extra help for certain topics that are hard for the child. Thank you in advance!
  25. This might surprise you, but I used Singapore Math to remediate my older child at this age. It is not too redundant. I think I had to start with 3A or 3B. We were able to move quickly through the books. I did not assign the extra reviews from the textbook but did from the workbook. I may be completely wrong in how I am stating this, but I think we did levels 3B-5A in one year and the rest the next year. But I may have started with 3A. Do the placement exams and back up as far as you need. The lack of too much repetition made it perfect for remediating. By this I mean, programs like Saxon and Horizons have so much review in every lesson that doing two lessons a day would be way too much review for one day. Singapore was perfect in that it had review, but I was able to skip the big review pages and keep moving when he got it and our purpose was remediating. Edited to clarify: I am referencing the US edition or primary edition. Those get to the point and do a great job of teaching the whys and hows.
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