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  1. He got used to the format and did faster. The 12## puts him at 88th percentile for that test date while the 15## puts him at 98th percentile. What I mean is that it is so hard to predict whether the student would get an easy paper and end up having more points lost per wrong/unanswered or get a hard paper and get a higher score even with answering more questions wrong. Your NZ national exams are probably more consistent in quality. I am surprised she covered so little algebra though because Singapore math for 9th and 10th grade would have covered a substantial amount of the SAT math section unintentionally. He’s not 🙂
  2. I have found Singapore Math easy to accelerate. You can first just skip the reviews in the textbooks when he grasps it quickly. And same for the reviews in the workbook if you feel very confident that he really has things down.
  3. I have had a very similar experience. My oldest used Saxon and made it through half of Advanced Algebra, but it took him a long time. He did teach himself, though. He did very well in his calculus class at college. My second one has been using the Jacob's materials. The third wanted to try Saxon, but that is when disaster struck. Then I decided to start Math-U-See with my fourth for Pre-Algebra after finishing Singapore Math. I am so glad to hear that I am not the only one! Is your daughter going to college?
  4. One of my daughters is using Saxon Algebra 1 and is not making any progress. She is in 10th grade and has not even finished half of the book. Most of her work has too many mistakes. I am not sure what to do. She says she does not understand it. We have tried the DVDs for it, but it did not help. I tried Developmental Math Algebra 1, but that was too easy She did Singapore Math before and was an okay student, though very slow. I was wondering if I should switch to Mr. D. Math, but I am hesitant to try a different program. Mr. D would have her do his second semester of Algebra 1. She says she does not like a video program, but the Saxon textbook does not seem to do the trick either. She says she would like to continue with Saxon, but I don't see much hope in continuing. I don't want to spend a lot of money and I don't know if an online program would do the trick. I had her look at Teaching Textbooks, but she did not like that either. Any ideas?
  5. I agree. I find that most materials designed for schools are boring, watered-down, and hard to tailor to and implement with one student as opposed to a group. (The exception would be Singapore math; I have heard of more and more schools using that, and it is a very popular homeschool curriculum as well.) In your shoes, I would take advantage of the flexibility that homeschooling offers. Really, truly, "education" does not have to look like school work at all. At those ages, an entire grammar lesson can be accomplished in 2 minutes by stopping in the middle of a read aloud to talk about how much you like the author's use of a particular exclamation point. Have everyone try repeating the sentence in a vibrant, exclamatory tone. Then pretend the sentence ended with a period and try saying the same words in a dry, sedate manner. What about a question mark? Can they turn the sentence into a question with just their delivery without changing any words? Wrap up by reminding that all sentences need to end with either a period, an exclamation point or a question mark and get right back to the read aloud story. Right there you have covered one of the foundational grammar concepts, and you did it quickly, enjoyably, and spontaneously with no plan or curriculum. OR, you could spend an entire unit in a textbook and workbook learning "How Sentences End" and slogging through endless multiple choice and fill in the blank and matching exercises that try to convince the child that the only reasonable ending for the sentence "Mary is on the swing" is a period, even though I can clearly think of examples where an exclamation point or question mark would be a stronger, better suited choice. Wendy
  6. Hello, I am looking for tutors who can introduce Singapore Math and teach my 8 year old (3rd grade) online/Skype. Can someone recommend tutors, we live in Eastern Time zone? Thanks
  7. Bolding mine. What kind of problems do you see with the (older) kids you teach and their understanding of variables? I feel like the difficulties we tend to see in teens/adults who have been doing algebra and higher maths for a while can be traced back to a lack of number-sense. It holds true for me, anyhow. I went all the way to pre-calc, still unable to add 5+4 in my head instantly [part of it was a bit of an OCD tic where I had to count the dots in each number]. But I was able to get past that after teaching math to my son. We used the cuisinare rods and they were awesome for him (and I benefited a lot too!) He was not into drawing or building diagrams (not even dot diagrams) so having the rods to function as pre-drawn diagram pieces (and also as building blocks to play with a la miquon style) helped him a lot. It sounds like your daughter might be past the stage of benefiting from them, but it's not like they will hurt anything if you give them a shot. I taught my son from Singapore Math through 3rd grade, and teaching all of the different ways of thinking about the problems helped me (and him) better understand how the numbers relate to each other. We're currently using Life of Fred. I love it from a geeky perspective. Planning to go back to Singapore Math once we've finished their intermediate math series.
  8. I'm pretty sure that, somewhere along the line, Singapore starts teaching kids to do this through factoring - 18 x 5 = 9 x 2 x 5 = 9 x10 I can't guarantee it, since I've seen other materials interspersed wth Singapore, but that curriculum is VERY into working with 10s. In addition it teaches students to break numbers apart to make ten - 14 + 9 = 13 + 1 + 9 = 13 + 10 which introduces some of the same ideas. Students also break down numbers - 257 = 200 + 50 + 7 which can be 200 +57 of 250 +7 But, counter to your preference for a definition first, I think that students do it with actual numbers very early, and it's much later when they go back and give the commutative and associative properties names. My kids are pretty good at extrapolating a concept to bigger numbers, so I'm sure that we did the 14 + 9 example with the cube blocks so that they could see that there were clearly the same number of blocks there, but that mentally it's easier to add 10 to something than to need to carry. Again, though, this sort of thing, which with Singapore + blocks seems to have been grasped quickly by my kids, is completely confusing to my homework help kids. If my own kid can't remember what 6 x 4 is, they quickly realize that you can do 6 x 2 x 2. My homework help kids don't understand what I'm doing when I try to get them to do it. It's as if their common core curriculum manages to take the ideas used in Singapore math, like number bonds, and teach them in a way that makes them completely useless for later application.
  9. Im looking into this for my 5th soon to be 6th grader next year. We have used SIngapore math for the longest period of time and stopped at level 4. My oldest now uses i-Ready as a main curriculum and we add in other math as need be. i-Ready is an online software that had videos and quizes, it will adjust to where she needs help, but I was told by our charter school that it is NOT a main curriculum and mainly used as a supplement. That being said, its the one that gets done daily and without complaints, so thats a win win for us. We tried TT and she hated it, and I dont really like i-Ready myself so looking into something that will work for both of us. My thoughts are to switch to ST math for next year and see if she likes it. From the website is states that it is a full curriculum, so I wanted to see if anyone else uses it as such? The only reason Id like to switch is to have her main curriculum be online, and then we can supplement as we do now. We also have Developmental mathematics, which is all worksheet based, but that I was going to use for morning/clipboard work, just a page a day as review. She says the reason she likes i-Ready (CC aligned), is because they SHOW her the math, shes dyslexic and loves anything visual. She also likes Beast Academy and LOF. But both of thoses I need to sit with her and read them for her to be able to use them, so Im looking for something that she can use on her own for the main portion.
  10. Okay, here's where we are. DS is in Singapore Math 5 and doing fine. He did Beast Academy 3 and 4 (not independently) and liked the series. However, he needs more work on the basics than BA was providing even with some extra practice with me, and his ITBS calculation scores went down. We will continue homeschooling at least through 8th grade. For high school, we might continue homeschooling, send him to either our zoned PS or a charter school (which both use integrated math I, II, III and then calculus or whatever from there). The charter is smaller, with narrower range of students, and I'm not sure how they do with college admissions; our zoned school is large, typical, and has a big range of students and abilities. or send him to a high-expectations private school. (There are two we'd consider. Both send 97% to college. One does the integrated math pathway with a range of ability-level options and the other more like a traditional sequence with lots of flexibility.) Continuing to homeschool is what he says right now he would prefer. Note that only homeschool and the zoned PS will definitely admit him. He is a mostly a social science guy but likes the sciences as well. He's not a language person, but enjoys word problems. If we were 100% sure of homeschooling all the way through, I'd probably buy AOPS stuff to try out for middle school and go at whatever pace works. But is there something made by SM to consider as well? Or somebody else? Please suggest 6th-8th grade math that is attractive to look at, likely to get him finished with the equivalent of at least Math I and Algebra 1, and a good mix of conceptual and skills practice? I'm fairly mathy and don't need a lot of support to teach, so open to whatever will be good for DS. Thanks!
  11. Dimension Math is very new, so you won't get a lot of answers. If I was beginning again, I think I would consider it, though. It addresses some of the "cons" of Singapore Math (better teaching resources and a complete 6th grade level). Unlike Math in Focus though, I think the levels are pretty much interchangeable between the regular Singapore books and the Dimensions, so if you don't like it, I think you'd be okay to switch. Probably for the youngest level, you won't need the TE, but I do think a lot of the teaching is in the TE for Dimensions because it is set up for a classroom. There are resources here if you haven't seen them:
  12. CLE is not a program I have used yet, but I really like it. I think that program could be great for any kind of learner really. I already owned the Singapore math books which is why I always just started with SM with my children. One ended up on Horizon's, but like I said, I did not like it at all. It jumped all over the place. I went to the store and looked at it again and have no clue how that child liked it so much. I am guessing that child just did not like SM and Horizon's was better than SM for him. In hindsight, I think he would have loved CLE. When I have looked over CLE, I have just loved it.
  13. Hi! I am ready to order our first math curriculum and noticed that on the Singapore math website there is a new version called “dimension math”. Has anyone used this one? Which one is recommended? Also, are the text books and teacher guides necessary? Thank you in advance!
  14. I have used Rainbow Resource, Christianbooks and ordered directly from Singapore Math in the past. But it's been a few years!
  15. Thank you all! Where is the best place to purchase the Singapore math books?
  16. Welcome!! Second grade was where I started with my kids, and now they are in seventh still chugging along:-) My son was very math accelerated, and needed very little repetition, so for 1-6 grade Singapore Math I compacted GREATLY. We only used Intensive Practice. For my less accelerated daughter I used Textbook, workbook and IP. We also used Beast Academy.
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  18. Son did not like BA at the 2A level. I have 3A level but we finished a level of Singapore Math and now he tests out of 3A. I am about to make an order from Rainbow resource and trying to decide if it is worth ordering another level of BA (3B) or if I need to just stop already. Is there a chance he would dislike BA 2A so much but then like a higher level? Or should I just forget it?
  19. We've changed every single thing since we started school in late July, at least once... So, misses: Sonlight PreK, A, C I've finally come to see that I don't like having a nitty gritty syllabus. It stresses me out. And I like to take history much, much slower. And Bible, too. Sonlight LA C and A: too many bits and pieces and not enough practice and direct instruction. Too much writing about made up subjects. I'm a CM Narration lover at heart. Sonlight A and C Science: not enough cohesiveness or true study of "science" as it's own art Math U See: my kids don't like worksheets and they like tutoring style math Handwriting Without Tears, Print: the second grader doesn't need more print practice Saxon: too tight of a spiral, not enough thinking about math Singapore Math Kindergarten: the K4 was bored to tears doing a full on mastery program FLL: too much grammar at this point, too dry...we just did a few days Spelling You See: too repetitive, too many tears! Apologia: entirely too much text and entirely too creationist But we've managed success! Here are our hits! Bible reading and picture journaling from the Ambleside Online schedule Bible Scripture memory from Simply Charlotte Mason All About Spelling Queen Homeschool Cursive for the second grader, print for the Kindergartener MEP Math for the K4 and 2nd grader Real Science Odyssey, Earth and Environment Story of the World 2 with activity books and supplemental literature All About Reading, PreReading for the K4 Second grader reads aloud and narrates to me Principles from The Complete Writer for the 2nd grader; I give her copywork and she copies her history narrations.
  20. It’s only the 6 year old who has that breakup for the 45 minute window. That’s based on what he currently does - approx 3 pages of Singapore math with a bit of instruction, 1 page of apples and pears, a reader and some copywork. It’s a good point though that we will probably take longer with math at least moving into grade 2 stuff. the 9 year old has 45 minute for math and 45 minutes for literacy focused subjects. Typically we do spelling workout 2 days and writing for 3 days and whatever time is left after that is for reading. It’s true she hasn’t got through as much as I would have liked this year so that time slot could be longer. We do tackle a fair bit of literature in morning time though (shakespeare, poetry, read aloud from something quality). We don’t really have evening housework time as we are out at activities. I could schedule reading for the non participating kids though - that would add about an hour of reading a week for each kid. It would definitely be a fight though as they currently use it for screen time! I’m not worried about oldest reading as he’s the kid that reads lord of the rings, and call of the wild for pleasure. He has some scheduled reading for school but more often than not ends up finishing it for fun anyway. thanks for your thoughts!
  21. I tried Singapore Math and it's really helpful. However, it depends on the students too. some are more at ease with the standard computational processes.
  22. We have been using Singapore Math for past 3 yrs and it’s going great.I got Beast academy beginning of the year and we just did couple of chapters and didn’t have time and recently finished 3A.I had purchased Guide and Practice book 3A and 3B.We are going to continue Singapore Math as Main curriculum planning to do Beast academy as supplement.We are going very slow and don’t do it regularly. We finish most of the SM during summer break.We use SM textbook and workbook.Can I skip guide book for BA and just get practice book?.Will we miss out anything?. Thanks.
  23. Would someone please tell me which edition of Singapore math is recommended-primary, common core, math in focus, deminsions, thinking, USA? Thank you
  24. Thanks to those that have chimed in thus far. After combing the resources here and taking into account input so far, I am considering the following: ALEKS Algebra II: A Fresh Approach Derek Owens Foerster Lial Saxon We have used nothing but Singapore Math 1-6 and AoPS so all of this is brand new to me. Dd has played around with other programs that we checked out of the library in the past but I did not get a good look at them. I have been looking at the tables of contents for each and I am realizing that dd has already covered much of the content in each of these programs during AoPS Intro to Algebra. Because DO is an actual class, dd would have to complete each homework assignment even on topics she has already mastered. OTOH, she could go the honor's route with DO which might make it less tedious? I don't know what to think about ALEKS but put it on the list because it appears it might be the easiest to tailor on the fly based on mastery. I wish I had all the time in the world to get my hands on books and do a thorough review but I am feeling the clock ticking here.
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