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  1. You are on a classical homeschool forum. By nature there will be some fairly rigorous homeschoolers here. There are also lots of parents homeschooling gifted kids. But there’s plenty of us who are homeschooling average kids, in average ways. My kids have never done Latin and we probably won’t. We aren’t doing unit studies typically. This year we did MFW which is a little like a unit study but not really. My kids would much rather stare at a screen than do anything else. I’m constantly fighting against that. And we love read aloud like Charlotte’s Web. My 10yo will be in 6th next year (he has November birthday in a state with a Dec 31 cut off). We call him 6th because that’s what grade he would be in had we put him in school. The curricula we use is all over the map. He’ll be doing Singapore math next year starting in 5B, history with his 8th grade sister, Science in the Beginning, and Learning Language Arts Through Literature. Reading/writing/spelling has been a big struggle for him. We’re making progress but it hasn’t clicked yet. He did the 3rd grade LLATL last year and it was a good fit for him with just enough challenge, and it’s considered by many to be a bit “behind” already. I’m not too worried about it. My soon to be 8th grader didn’t finally click with reading until she was 11. We just work on it consistently and as long as he’s making progress I’m happy. The most important thing is to meet your daughter where she’s at and it sounds like you’re doing that. You know your child best. You sound like a wonderful, caring mother who is doing what’s best for your child. A little worry along with that is normal but try not to. Trust yourself. Your plan sounds great. Good luck to you!
  2. I don't think it's a matter of 'before a specific grade' but an issue of'before you move to certain topics. Like, I realized that learning to tell time on a traditional clock is much easier if kids can count by 5s. I loved the way that Singapore math had students regrouping with 10s all the time - my kids learned arithmetic much faster because there are only a handful of facts to learn with numbers smaller than 10. We used blocks to physically make the groups (13-6, so take 6 from the group of 10, then add the 4 to the leftover 3 to get 7). I think that for a long time they quickly visualized it, and for all I know they still do. Equivalent fractions probably shouldn't be taught until kids are fluent with multiplication and division facts. I have spent nightmarish sessions trying to help the kids that I volunteer with find equivalent fractions but how do you do 5/6 = x/30 if you can't figure out that 6 goes into 30 5 x and then multiply 5x5? Cross multiplying can be taught as an algorithm, but they still have to be able to multiply and divide, and the numbers are bigger. Likewise, long division prior to having a solid grasp of multiplication facts is awful. I haven't had problems with my own kids because the program that we used (Singapore) is well-ordered, even if a little different from the old US sequence that I had as a kid. The kids that I volunteer with seem to get a more scattershot approach, or maybe they just move on before mastering the first thing - it's hard to tell from worksheets what the overall plan is.
  3. at six and eight they are not behind academically, schools have the ability to teach them where they are even if they don't know a word of English and have never attended a school anywhere. The school will evaluate everyone for placement when they are back in session. lessons will be differentiated for the various instructional needs in the classroom -- in my area, the teachers commonly report that they are struggling when its five or more grade levels of instructional need in one whole class lesson and they can't offer enrichment, but they always have the ability to give an unclassified student remediation and intervention. my suggestion is don't think of it as 'catching up', think of it as living. Below grade 5, almost everything can be taught as part of life. The 'behind' children I have had in youth group or help as a tutor need one thing: confidence that they are good at something, anything. Having a strength lets them be the least proficient in the group in everything else, because they know they will eventually level up. So, my advice is figure out what the strengths and interests are, build on that. Doesn't have to be academic. Don't focus on deficiencies brought about by artificial 'grade levels' or age norm, think of academics as a foundation being laid. Have a conversation about what they'd like to learn for the remainder of this year and for the summer. The basics are: how to use a public toilet, how to wash up before eating, how to tie shoes, zip/unzip coats. Manners. What to do when angry at school. What to do when another kid is angry. How to make friends. How to deal with a bully. How to listen so that a two step instruction can be followed -- they'll be expected to participate in various emergency drills in the first few days of school as well as be safe in the cafeteria. I suggest teaching the common playground games if they don't know them -- tag, kickball, hopscotch, and pretend as well as the basic gym class moves of jumping jacks, skipping etc. Uno is big indoor recess game here, as well as checkers..maybe ask the school for suggestions. Academics : dominoes covers most math - add scoring when they can. Converse. Tell stories and make up stories. Have a found object box for art and invention supplies. If the dc want to do a math program, the school is most likely using something like Math in Focus, which is really Singapore Math lite. The MiF workbooks are available online for ex here is grade1 https://wwwk6.thinkcentral.com/content/hsp/math/mathinfocus/ca/gr1/student_workbook_9780544190177_/launch.html . the school can give you the passwords needed for the children to access the online resources each grade level has available for practice.
  4. I think it is best to not post anything beyond which curriculum in the threads or not at all. For example, if your 6 yr old is doing Singapore Math 5A/B6A/B. then just post "Singapore Math." Or skip posting at all. There is no point to posting other than to give others ideas as to what to use with their children, that is it. When my oldest was doing 3rd grade math in kindergarten and reading chapter books, I did not post about it. Okay, so he was not homeschooling then, he was in private school. If someone asks, then it is fine to answer, but I think it is not really the point of the thread of grade level threads to post about what your 6 yr old is doing that is all 7th grade level, on the 1st grade thread.
  5. My upcoming 6th grader has finished Beast Academy back in December. We moved onto AoPS Pre-A, and she hates it (we got about halfway through chapter 5 before deciding it was a bad fit). We've tried a little bit of Singapore Dimensions 6A (just the textbook). The more interesting problems have not been doable, because we didn't do any Singapore math before this, so we don't know how to use bar diagrams to solve some of the trickier problems. This is especially noticeable in the fractions chapter. She's good at math, but she doesn't like it. Rote problems bore her; she much prefers puzzles over doing the same sort of procedural problem over and over. Any ideas for an interesting pre-algebra for this kid?
  6. We always used the Singapore Math Challenging Word Problems. They are a lot harder than FAN math Process Skills in Problem Solving, maybe a full year or so ahead IMO. I generally had my kids do the CWP independently at a level a year behind their grade.
  7. I recall I did not like Singapore Math until level 3. I own all the textbooks and some supplemental books through level 6. Daughter was doing Math In Focus at her charter school. It was not going the best, but the teacher was not good at teaching it. The teacher would make up weird worksheets on lined paper and then xerox them and hand them out and none of the kids or parents really knew what she was getting at. She pretty much got through MIF 2A. At home, she can test out of 2A of US edition Singapore Math, but I can see she is really working at it. However, she did get the problems correct. I started with Beast Academy 2A, which I had at home anyway. Daughter hated it. She said right off she hates the monsters. Then, she hated the problems. They were too hard, they were too puzzle like. They were not straight forward enough. Fine. Then I started with Singapore Math 2B. She can do it, but it is clear she is struggling and working hard during the lessons. (is it okay to use manipulatives for everything?) Then I got the bright idea to back up and just do 2A. Okay, fine. She has joy in this. It is so easy for her! She is enjoying it because it is easy. Also, she is an older 2nd grader. She turned 8 at the beginning of the year. I am toying with 1) just starting with book 2A 2) going forward with book 2B and not concerning myself with how much we use manipulatives 3) picking a different program. For other programs, I am seriously considering MM or TGTB or Math for a Living Education. Also, FYI, she used to be good at math. I think the charter school wore her down, a lot. I am also seriously considering the first two options. I am totally on the fence about this!
  8. I'm using Miquon with my first grader and I love it. It seems to really suit her, too. She's almost done with their first grade workbooks. Now I'd like to find something to do with her to supplement it. I'm thinking something we can do a few days a week over the summer. I know we can just go on to the next Miquon book but I'd like to see what else is out there too. My son uses Singapore math and Beast Academy and loves both, but Singapore really didn't interest my daughter. She seems to do really well with hands-on stuff. I am thinking to do little projects with her but I'd also love to have a book too. Any ideas?
  9. Is there a way to give a student who is weak in math the benefit of the Singapore math approach? Looking over samples, I really appreciate much that is practical and visual about this approach. I also greatly appreciate the approach to thinking skills. I understand that some of the materials move more at the pace of a student who is natural and quick at math. I understand that for some materials, it might be necessary to use supplemental books to give more practice. Cost is an important factor to me, and using multiple books is more expensive. So what I am asking: I have a beginning fifth grader who has been using a traditional program with a spiral approach. We are building on a foundation that is not sturdy, so to speak, and I realize that we need to go back and remediate. She needs to learn her multiplication tables. She also does poorly on math assignments. I believe that, were we to switch to a Singapore program, we could likely be set back as far as second grade. I gave a pretest for Math in Focus 3A, and she said it was too hard and wished to do the next test down. However, it looks from a sample I have seen that Math in Focus does a good job of laying out a concept in a visual way, not merely a verbal explanation or numerical formula. I believe this could be helpful. Yet going back into second grade would mean that the bit of ground we have been able to gain in multiplication, division, and working with fractions, might not be reviewed for a while, as we are instead working to build up basic problem solving skills. (I am not sure what the scope and sequence is, but it is probably quite different.) My idea was to use something like Math Mammoth (for which she places at Third Grade), and then use Math in Focus textbooks maybe starting at 2B as enrichment, to give a more visual aspect to the program and to help me learn something about how the Singapore Approach works, since I obviously was not trained this way. I do not feel I am "natural" at teaching math, such as improvising beyond what is in the curriculum I have. Sadly, but it is not my strong point. Does this sound workable to you, or is there a better way? I do feel a need to curtail costs, and I realize there may be some excellent math programs that are on the high end of the cost spectrum, but I really would not choose one of those. That may help as you give me your suggestions. Thank you!
  10. We spend 60-90 minutes a day on math in 7th (ds13, finishing AOPS Intro Alg). At this rate, it still has taken him about 18 months to finish the book (we're int he last chapter). 5th grade dd spends an hour on math, and often times completes multiple lessons in Singapore Math. She has another chapter to go and then will be in AOPS Pre-A. I don't set a timer, ds just does one section (either problems or exercises, but not typically both) of the book each day. Rarely, a section will take 45 minutes and he'll have a short math day. Rarely, we'll split a section over two days. The AOPS algebra is just a really intense math book! It takes time!!! eta: I also require work shown, and the only calculator use were the 2-3 sections involving interest.
  11. I love the homeschooling without screens idea. 🙂 Overview for high school math courses for moms that need a brush up and are trying to figure out how to teach it (as in a session for algebra, a session for geometry, etc.). I would want to hear about the order of topics--when order matters and when it doesn't. I felt very confident switching up elementary math topics when we got stuck and needed to take a break from a concept, but when it came to algebra, I assumed things would build. Then I realized there are still a lot of discrete concepts (at least early on). Knowing how to skip something and come back later when you've beaten your head against a wall is a BIG help. An overview of graphing again--so much of my graphing of math in algebra made no sense to me, but now, I can look at it and feel like I can ask the questions I didn't have words for in high school. Where the math goes with science--what kind of math concepts you need in chemistry, physics, etc. How to help your kid get the concept down and not just formulas--learning math vocabulary. I swear the vocabulary alone would be so helpful. I didn't learn math vocabulary in school much at all. Middle school math--this could go two ways. One for shoring up the elementary math one more time, and another for the kids who aren't necessarily ready for a full on algebra course but are very good at math. I think that shoring up the elementary math talks are currently more readily available. I am not against courses that pitch a product if I know ahead. The worst is when the session seems to be something universally applicable, but there is a cliffhanger that involves getting their product. There are potential products that I might have used and now refuse to because of this kind of session!!! I do think there is value in having a session aimed at discussing a specific product if it's a niche product vs. one of many lit programs. (For instance, we use some intervention materials that are meant to be used with student-appropriate literature, and knowing the overview of the product and how it achieves what it does is invaluable.) Special needs stuff is generally helpful, but it is hard to know where to focus given that kids are kind of all over the place, but if you specialty is math, it would help narrow things. Math "tricks" can be cool--like 101 ways to take a math concept and use it to it's full extent from early math to high school math. I think Mr. D or someone gives a talk on factoring that does something like this. But there are quite a few little concepts I've picked up using Singapore math that are widely applicable and really helpful. When I was using Dimensions Math with my son, it as interesting to find out how to solve square roots (and cube roots, etc.) without resorting to guess and check. My son's math tutor was delighted to find out about this, and I haven't met other people who know how to do this. But it's so useful and so common sense if you play with factoring numbers down to their primes. Those kind of things are really powerful, I think. In fact, a whole session on how to avoid guess and check would be nice. It's like the math version of sight words that really could be taught with phonics, IMO, and I HATE it. I would also attend a session on how to reliably and consistently solve number pattern problems in algebra. I stink at it. This too! I think most conferences are going to dictate the length of your sessions. I would totally do a long session (with a potty break) for certain subjects though, such as an overview of algebra for rusty moms. In the program, titles that match the actual content help. 🙂
  12. DS7 Oak Meadow 2 Grammar: FLL but pretty casually, led by him. I have MCT Island from his older brother and I'm thinking of seeing if he likes that since his brother needed a level up. Writing: Bravewriter Jot it Down. Reading: Dancing Bears Spelling: Apples and Pears Math: Finish Right Start B and then probably go to Singapore unless he really wants to keep on with C. Latin: Song School Latin We are using BYL 1 as booklist and seasonally supplementing with Blossom & Root (which I love). DS10 English, History, and Science: OM 6 - we may stretch this into two years. Math: Singapore Math 5 and Beast Academy. He tends to go through math quickly so if he finishes that, I'm looking at AOPS Pre-Algebra. Science: OM Science with BFSU and we have also been reading through several books on science topics. He is finishing Astrophysics for Young People in a Hurry by NDT and will probably read the Magic of Reality next. History: We will probably continue with SOTW 1 with OM History. Writing: CAP Writing & Rhetoric (we love this) and BW Partnership in Writing Grammar: Michael Clay Thompson Coding: Scratch or Code Combat or Python. TBD. Typing: TBD Latin: No clue He may do AAA Cryptozoology. We are using BYL as a booklist. Hopefully we will have some music and art lessons for both going when we're able to leave the house again.
  13. Hello, everyone. Here's just a little backstory to my question: I have two school-aged children plus a preschooler (3 yrs old) and an almost 2 year old. I am due with our fifth in about a month. I have been using RightStart Math with my daughter (levels A-D), until I finally switched to Saxon at the end of this school year. I started my son with RightStart A in kindergarten this year. I felt like RightStart was a great choice for my daughter since she has ADHD and really needed a hands-on, out of the box approach. She learned the concepts really well and her mental math was impressive to me. I finally stopped using it when her conceptual understanding became significantly better than her ability to "just do the math" so to speak. In other words, she could grasp concepts that were at a very high level, but any number of simple subtraction facts would stall her for hours. She could multiply by "figuring it out" but not by remembering any facts of any kind, so it would take a VERY long time. What finally did me in, though, was the intensity of teaching RightStart. I just don't have it in me! Not with the little ones all around demanding my attention, etc. Once we switched to Saxon, her ability to use her concepts to actually do the drills went up exponentially. She's filling in the gaps and doing really well in math overall. So that is the long version of my experience teaching math thus far. So my question is for my son. We are finishing up his kindergarten year, and I have not felt like RightStart was as good a fit for him. I already kind of hate teaching it (such strong words!), but it seems, if anything, too out of the box for him. He's a traditional sort of fellow and all the manipulatives and tally marks, etc. seem to round about for him. He just wants to get to the adding, subtracting, and using actual numbers already. He also enjoys sitting down and using workbooks (which my daughter couldn't do at his age). All that to say, I've looked at Abeka and Horizons which seem similar in their approach (is that right??), and I've looked at Singapore. Singapore seems to enjoy a great reputation that I'm not sure the others share, and all three seem to be a sit-down workbook type of program. Can anyone tell me anything more in detail about working with these programs? Singapore is pretty darn confusing with their myriad of textbook options. I feel like I should go with them since I keep hearing about it being better, but I'm not sure if it really is and if it is also a more "out of the box" kind of curriculum or not. My two goals are to find something that is really easy to use and something that doesn't re-invent the wheel but gives a rock solid math foundation. Since I'm just spinning in circles at this point, I would love it if someone could give me some advice from their own experience! Thank you so much!!!
  14. My son has been selected for the magnet and GT programs. However his assessments are all over the place. He gets 50% at times and 80% at others. He has unpredictable patterns. I need to build up his math sense. He is a 10 year old, past the age to do Singapore math or Beast Academy books, as his curriculum is above those. What would be good books to build up math sense?
  15. I would get Elementary Mathematics for Teachers, read it, and do the suggested problems (from Singapore math). I recommend doing all of it because it all interrelates (in other words, don't just do the fraction parts). (If you can, you might want to keep going through Algebra 1 using a text that deals with algebraic fractions (Jacobs and Lial do), because that is a good way to really cement things, and it will make you an even better teacher of elementary math.)
  16. I've been pondering on this thread since it was posted, but today is the first time I've had 15 minutes and some quiet to respond. My math education was not great - I learned to do the work but I'm confident that I didn't learn it as well as I could have and there was little conceptual understanding unless a light bulb clicked on randomly. I wanted more for my kids. My older was shockingly good at math at an early age. It started with counting blocks as we put them away or counting how many times he could dribble a basketball (100 was always his goal). Then we'd divided the toys to be put away in 1/2 and we'd each do 1/2, then I'd say 'What if Grammy was here? How many would each of us put away then?', etc. We worked through oral addition, subtraction, and simple multiplication and division facts. I introduced variables, first with 'If I needed 11 cookies but had 5, how many more would I need? and then 'So if I said 5 + x = 11...'. Kiddo grasped negative numbers intuitively, and a friend taught him the idea of perfect squares over Christmas dinner. All of this was in pre-K, and all of it was oral. We started with Singapore math in K and did grades 2 and 3, skipping some of the repetition. The only snag was when we hit long division - kiddo could not understand the algorithm, which startled me because I'd never really had to 'teach' anything - a few tips, or a look at the example problem and he was off and running. I ended up explaining long division by saying what we were actually doing - in 137/4, you put a 3 in the tens spot because it goes 30 times. So, since you've accounted for 4 x 30, go ahead and subtract 120. Now, how many times does 4 go into the remaining 17?. Once that understanding was there, kiddo wrote a problem with several million divided by several hundred, asked if the same rules applied, and then did it. We stalled for a while at pre-A, because we were using AoPS and, while this kid grasped the math, the attention to detail wasn't there so we kept losing exponents. But, other than puzzling through some geometry together, this kid mostly teaches himself with occasional help. He clearly 'sees' the math in a way that I don't. Sometimes he gets stuck on hard word problems and other times carelessness is still an issue. But, at no point have I ever read one of those 'trains leaving going at different speeds, what time do they meet' questions and just 'seen' the answer. I can draw a picture, label it, write 2 expressions and then set them to be equal to solve the problem but I'd never just read it and know the answer. Right now we use a mix of AoPS and LOF and my kid likes that the same material can be taught so differently and that it's mostly self-teaching. I have put effort into teaching him how to write what he's just 'seeing' because, well, you need to learn to write math. My younger is not like this. She's actually really good at math and loved the way that Singapore teaches adding by forming tens (rather than learning addition facts) and felt the same about subtraction (Singapore teaches 'borrowing' differently than I was taught - if you have 23-9, for instance, and 'borrow' 10, you subtract 9 from the borrowed 10, then add the remaining 1 to the 3). So, even my non-math-loving kid was better at mental math at 6 than I was after my years in school (where I was told to count on my fingers). We spent a lot of time with cube blocks early on. It wasn't done as a fun 'clean up the blocks' think like with older because this kid didn't think it was fun (either the cleaning or the counting). But, as part of math, she was happy to use them and I think that it really helped her to see the tens, and see that 6x8 was 8x6. Interestingly, this is also the kid who taught herself the FOIL method of doing multiplication. We were doing 23 x 35 -type problems with the traditional set-up, and I said 'First you multiply the 5 x 3, then write the 5, put the 1 above the 2 to show that you'll add that 10 later...now multiply 5 x 2, which is really 20 because it's in the tens, then add that other 10. Now multiply the 3x3, but it's really by 30...etc' and then she said 'So what I'm really doing is adding 15 + 100 + 90 + 600' and she insisted on writing it that way for a while. I figure at least it will make a bit of Algebra easier. ☺ But, this kid periodically hits a wall with fractions, particularly dividing by fractions. Mechanistically she can multiply by the reciprocal, and if asked, when dividing by 3/4, she'll reason through first you multiply by 4 to figure out how many fourths there are, then you divide by 3 to see how many 3/4 there are...and then on the next problem she'll say that she doesn't understand why you do it that way, even though she just explained it. I figure that time and practice will settle it in her brain eventually...I hope. With all of that being said, I've talked about my volunteer tutoring that I've done for the past 5 years. There are a couple of issues that I see working with these kids. First, some don't have any buy-in. They don't care if they understand, they just want to be done. All kids can be that way, but if it's constant and is the norm, I think it can be very hard to get the kids to 'wallow in it' enough to open their brains and let the concepts seep in. Something that I hadn't considered until I worked with these kids is that, without excellent classroom control, you can't use manipulatives at all. I love my unit blocks, but with some of the groups they would have become projectiles, or they would have stolen them. It's not a problem in my home teaching, obviously, but it was an issue that I hadn't considered. This may be why the kids spend so much time drawing to regroup. One one hand, I see the point, but I am finding that the kids become dependent on counting and quit thinking. Like, they'll draw 15 dots and then 16 dots and then count them all, and if they make a mistake they can't find it because the only way to check is to recount and it's tedious. I also struggle with how they are being taught several methods to do the same thing. Singapore math does it too, but it seems to do it differently (although it may be that I was just doing it with my own kids). Without conceptual understanding, the kids don't realize that they are doing the same thing in a different way and they get really confused. If you check their work and they see that you've arrived at the answer a different way than how they were taught, even if it's a way that they've done before, they think you're answer is wrong because they don't necessarily understand that you get the same answer no matter how you do it. There are also a lot of issues, as in every group setting, of moving on before some kids understand the basics. I can not overstate the awfulness of trying to help kids with long division when they don't fully know their +, -, and x facts. The number of times I've helped count groups of 6 going into 30something (not skip-counting, counting while holding up a finger every time we get to a multiple of 6)...it's almost like it's 'anti-conceptual' because I think the kids feel like the adults are just pulling this stuff out of nowhere. This goes very against the grain of this conversation, but there is a part of me that thinks that some kids would be better off not trying to move much beyond algorithmic arithmetic work, at least for a whil, and maybe ever. I understand the problems with this, in that they'd be at a disadvantage if they want to move towards more complex math. On the other hand, they wouldn't be much worse off than I was when I finished school and I made it through calculus. 🙂 I also have concern with how they'd figure out what to do with which kids - I have seen struggling K-2 students have a developmental leap and become adept at disassembling and reassembling numbers as they move in the 3-5th grade range. But, I've also seen kids bang their heads against a wall for years on end, unable to completely wrap their heads around anything and unable to do simple arithmetic because they don't just learn the facts. They might be kids who would learn the concept after using the facts for a while, or they might be kids who will never develop the abstract skills to move beyond concrete arithmetic, but either way they'd still be better off being able to do the arithmetic even if they don't understand it. Some kids seem to be very poorly served by the 'once you understand it conceptually you can do a lot with it' because what seems to result, for them, is 'if you don't understand the conceptual background, all math will seem like magic and you won't be able to get the right answer, ever'.
  17. BJU Press Rod and Staff ABeka Singapore Primary and all the flavors Dimensions Math by Singapore Math Math in Focus (public school text and very expensive) Those are what comes to mind right now.
  18. My daughter is completely burned out from her charter school. Everything was done through copy work there. She is not behind at all academically, so I am not concerned there. She does seem to enjoy reading. Her spelling is good enough that I could easily put her in SWO D if I were going that route. I am unsure where to place her for math. She used to love math, now she hates it. She has become convinced she is bad at everything. They did a horrible job teaching the math at the charter school. They used Math In Focus, but then would make up their own tests and the tests would have content that was never taught in the curriculum. It would also have inaccurate wording. I have Beast Academy, but it is a bit puzzley for her right now, but I have not ruled it out. I have Singapore Math, US edition. I have the workbook for 2B and the textbooks all the way through. I could just pick up there as she pretty much finished MIF 2A. I tried to give her the placement exam and she won't even consider trying. Then finally, I had her and her brother race (she likes competing) and put up a portion of the problems on the board and she did fine. She could redo 2A, but would not need to. I am wondering if it is awful to just do a hodge podge of things she enjoys for a while and then start curriculum after that? Maybe some math computer games, workbooks, maybe work on math facts, and cook some Christmas cookies and such where we measure things. And then try again next month or so? She seems so burned out. And she used to love school. She used to always want to play school too. Now, she is just teary and burned out. The tears are finally subsiding, but it is clear she was put through the ringer. And when I do reconsider curriculum, should I just not think about it now? Should I just try what I already have when the time comes? Or should I try MM or BJU or something? CLE?
  19. I have read quite a few discussions about Singapore Math on this forum. Many have acronyms like MIF, CWP, HIG, etc. I have compiled an outline here. Hope it helps. The Singapore Math curriculum was conceptualized by the Ministry of Education in Singapore. It became popular worldwide due to its consistent top ranking on Trends in International Math and Science Study (TIMSS). The early adopters are home school students. Currently Singapore Math is used in 100 over US school districts. The math learning process comprises three steps which are: concrete, pictorial, and abstract. The concrete step refers to students learning through manipulation of objects like pens, erasers or clips. In the next step, pictorial representations like bar models are used to represent the problem. The syllabus is about 1 year ahead of syllabus in other countries. For example primary 3 may be equivalent to elementary 4 in other countries. The most challenging word problems are those related to pre-algebra. Textbook titles with US Edition are listed here below. The titles not only have textbooks but they also have workbooks, home instructor guides and teacher’s guides. Dimension Math by Singapore Math Inc Math in Focus by Marshall Cavendish, reseller Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Challenging Word Problems by Marshall Cavendish Primary Math Marshall Cavendish In addition to workbooks, students/instructors can tap on worksheet question banks in free test papers -> Sg Math, for challenging word problems. Grades 4 to 6 are extremely challenging. About Marshall Cavendish is a Singapore-based textbook publisher whose publication are used in Singapore schools. Singapore Math Inc is an US publisher that adapted the curriculum to the American education market
  20. This is what I’m thinking: Bible: Starting Strong Math: Singapore Math 5A/5B, Life of Fred (Kidneys—Liver) Handwriting: Can-Do Cursive Spelling: All About Spelling 5 Writing: W&R through Schole Academy Geography: BF Geography History: Story of the World 4 Science: The Elements, Mystery Science Where I’m having trouble is with reading and grammar. I feel SO drawn to Lightning Lit 4. Using it for reading and grammar (skipping composition) would really satisfy my desire to SIMPLIFY next year. But DS is just now starting to read for pleasure. I worry assigning so many books might backfire. So we might do interest-led reading instead, plus something like Fix It Grammar or Editor in Chief. ETA: He’ll also continue homeschool PE class and piano lessons.
  21. I think there are just so many different variables. Good teaching is obviously important, and math education is pretty abysmal in a lot of schools. But the adolescent brain restructuring is definitely a thing, at least in my sample size of one! My younger daughter has always had pretty weak number sense, and we really prioritized that. For years. She preferred everything to be manipulatives or concrete examples, and really could not handle much if any abstract reasoning. We used Singapore Math and Beast Academy (but only the easiest problems from Beast Academy, and used Singapore Math the bulk of the time). We REALLY concentrated on mental math and she drew diagrams for many of her problems, up through 7th grade. Any time there was algebraic thinking, it was always in concrete terms (she pictured objects, so for 3x-7= 2 she would picture things like pencils. This year something just clicked. No different teaching - she just suddenly got algebra. And what's more her number sense really improved so much -- now she's able to do more complex mental math and makes further jumps than I can. And she finished a big growth spurt. 🙂 I definitely wouldn't have waited - I don't see any of that as time wasted and it wasn't painful. She also really is the type of kid that needs two to three passes at a subject to really get it, so I think we needed a lot of those years. I also think she would have been slightly doomed if she had stayed in school. It took a lot to undo three years of math damage. I never would have held back my son as math was literally what he lived and breathed for. However puberty never affected his reasoning in the same way, as he was thinking abstractly from a very early age. He hated manipulatives and picture problems. But then I don't see an early or late teaching dichotomy -- I see a spectrum of places that kids would fall and no hard and fast rule will apply to all kids, imo.
  22. Didn't I read here that Singapore Math is going to do away with the 3 or 4 or however many different editions there are currently and write a single for US market version?
  23. Let me explain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up. I HSed my oldest for a year in 2nd grade. Loved it. DH wasn't super supportive. Now with distance learning hell, he sees the value. I don't want my kids to spend an entire year in front of an iPad or with total chaos in their learning. I'll have a 7th grader, 4th grader and 1st grader. Please tell me what curriculum you would do with this spread. 1st grader is getting close to reading, so my plan is to focus on Story of the World with her and 4th grader, Singapore Math, 100 easy lessons. Other than SOTW, I don't know what to do for 3rd grader. I don't know at all what to do for 7th grader. I read TWTM many years ago and no longer have my copy. I need CC-aligned, because they would all likely return to PS at some point. I appreciate everyone's advice. Thank you!
  24. If I were you, I would probably look at the different curriculum kits offered by various publishers to figure out what I want. Timberdoodle.com has nice, eclectic kits. Shopchristianliberty.com has relatively inexpensive curriculum kits to dip your toe in. Abeka and BJU would have kits. If Catholic, there's Setonbooks.com and Catholic Heritage Curricula. Personally, I love Abeka Phonics for 1st grade reading. Writing with Ease is great for Copywork. Singapore Math is fantastic for 1st and 4th grade. The Sentence Family and Grammar Tales and Schoolhouse Rock would be really cute and fun for grammar for the 4th grader. Lakeshore Learning Center also has some cute dry-erase writing cards called "Ready to Write Prompt Box." Mosdos Press has good literature textbooks for 4th and 7th grade. A Reason for Writing is great for 4th grade cursive practice. You just have to explore to see what fits your family. Enjoy!
  25. Well here it is. My newbie info guide and list of open and go curriculum. I've been at it off and on since 5 am. My eyes are tired and I'm not completely done. I had to reformat all of the bullet points after copying it over. Feel free to critique, even butcher it. I want it to be a collaborative effort. I kind of want to keep only the Free - $25 section, but I'm flexible. I'm sure there's more I could add to that. I'm also not sold on the boxed curriculum. I don't want them to have to buy anything other than the box to avoid confusion. Whether you’ve just pulled your child out of school or have been preparing to homeschool since they were babies, taking the first step toward homeschooling can be overwhelming. It’s completely normal to feel a little nervous about this. You are not alone! We’ve all at some point been pretty much where you are. Panicked and overwhelmed. Not to worry, the Hive Mind here at the Well-Trained Mind Forums have put together this letter and link fest to get you started on your path to homeschooling. So grab some coffee and your favorite snack and get ready to begin your adventures in homeschooling! The Well-Trained Mind, 4th Edition and Website The book provides step-by-step instruction to give your child an academically rigorous, comprehensive education from preschool through high school. Susan Wise Bauer lays out the plan for you and recommends curriculum to put that plan to action. The website gives you everything you need to get started on your homeschool journey. It includes articles, explanation videos, audio lectures, planning worksheets and anything else you might need to start this journey. If you can’t find it there, then you are already in the right spot to ask your question. The forum has some extremely knowledgeable veteran homeschoolers, who have been there, done that. Seriously, you could stop right here and click on those two links and you’ll find all of the information you need. Step One – What are your state’s homeschool laws? Every state’s laws are different. Some states have little to no regulation and some are a little more high maintenance. Getting to know your state’s homeschool laws will help you understand what is expected of you as the homeschool parent and may determine how you want to proceed with homeschooling. Where to find rules and regulations Find your State Department of Education website here Pro-Publica Homeschool Regulations by State What you’ll need to know to legally begin homeschooling: When your child reaches compulsory age, the age where school is required. You will not need to fill out any forms before that age. How to withdraw your child from school and your rights as a parent that wishes to homeschool. What forms (if any) are required to send to my State Department of Education to legally begin homeschooling. How to deliver them (certified or hand-delivered) and what proof they will provide that you are legally homeschooling. If there is time limit from withdrawing my child and sending in the forms. If there are any subject requirements or any sequence that needs to be followed, such as state history in 4th grade. What records (if any) will need to be kept; such as attendance, samples of work, grades, portfolios. Step Two – How do you see yourself homeschooling? Why are you considering homeschooling? Is this something that you plan to do long term or as a temporary emergency situation? What do you want for your child as a result of homeschooling? What are your goals? What is your educational philosophy? Does your child have any special needs for learning? Learning disabilities? Advanced/gifted? Mental health? Physical health? What method would work for both you and your kids? Reading lots of books together and discussing? Open and go, no prep? Video lessons? Scripted lessons that tell you exactly what to say? Multiple ages? Together or independent? What questions do you have? What worries you? What is your Worldview? In homeschooling, some parents want materials that reflect their faith. Many of the resources you'll encounter are Christian, written specifically for Christian families. Christian homeschool curricula and resources reflect a range of different Christian views about science, literature, religion, and more. You should ask yourself if you want Christian or secular resources or if you might be comfortable with either. If you're concerned about issues of faith in your materials, you can research or ask others what viewpoints they represent. Resources listed below are marked with an *. Neutral Science is science that isn't completely straightforward in it's religious views. Often, it is the result of religious authors secularizing their work to open up to a wider audience. The key topics of concern are The Big Bang and Evolution. They may omit the topics altogether, misrepresent or downplay them as theories. It's important to know what the worldview of the author is in order to ensure it's a match to your own. If you would like a quick summary of what to look for in a secular science curriculum, Pandia Press Presents: Why Neutral Science Isn't Neutral, which the podcast goes more in depth. The Homeschool Resource Roadmap lists all science and every other subject and categorizes it by worldview. With history it has to do with whether the stories of a certain religion are handled as historical fact, while others are handled as myths. A secular history program would discuss religion since it is a major part of history at many points, but would avoid ascribing fact status to any religion's stories. Determining your homeschool philosophy It’s perfectly normal to have no idea yet. This is a process. You may find yourself revisiting this idea over the years as your kids get older and you have more experience under your belt. This hard work will help you solidify your homeschooling vision and get the results you want to see for your family, but it takes time. Homeschooling: Which Model Is Right for You? What Kind of Homeschooler Are You? How to Write a Homeschooling Philosophy Statement But how will I know what to teach and when to teach it? Core Knowledge Sequence - Free downloadable sequence of topics to cover by grade (not Common Core) What Your __ Grader Needs to Know - by E.D. Hirsch Jr. - More detailed Core Knowledge sequence in book form World Book - Pre-Common Core Free Printables No Time for Step Two? – You just withdrew your kid from school and need to get something started right now! In most emergency cases, the best thing to do is take a break. I know that may seem counter-intuitive if your child is “behind”, generally speaking taking a break to fall in love with learning again is just what the student needs. This article is interesting because it documents the deschooling process without even realizing. He's initially anxious and stressed about all of the free time he suddenly has. That is a result of being over-regulated his entire life. It makes him feel pressured to squeeze in as much learning in as in as little time possible. Over the weeks, he realizes learning is happening in all sorts of ways and he's so much more relaxed by the end. Deschooling can be a bunch of books laying around they might like to read, watching science documentaries, narrowing the focus to one thing they really like and playing that up or finally getting to the one thing they always wanted to do, but never had the time or opportunity to do, for example learning to bake. Let them get bored, then give them plenty of options to find their way out of that boredom by keeping interesting books around, playing board games, creative play, and so on. It gives you time to spend with them and gives them time to learn how to be a kid again. The school mentality is really hard to shake. It takes time to reset. Open and Go Curriculum options to tide you over until you figure something out I’ve linked directly to the publishers to help give you a better understanding of the curriculum. You can find many of these at Rainbow Resource to get free shipping if your order is over $50 or Amazon. *non-secular Free - $25 The library – your library can become your refuge, your librarian can become your greatest resource. Check you library’s website for free resources. My library offers all of this for free with a library card: ABC Mouse, IXL, Rosetta Stone, Lynda, Great Courses, Muzzy, High School Courses, High School and College Admission Test Prep, Creative Bug (great for electives and extra-curriculars), literacy tutors, biography and cultural studies, Hoopla(digital downloads and streaming), Kanopy and Kanopy Kids (doc and video streaming), the local newspaper, The LA Times, The NY Times, National Geographic Kids, Overdrive (audiobooks), science reference center, World Book, and so much more. Copywork, narration, dictation– Choose sentences from books you are reading and have them copy them. Ask them to summarize the chapter that was just read. Dictate the copied sentences and summarizations to them and have them write it out with correct capitalization and punctuation. Works with all subjects. Teaches grammar, punctuation, spelling, memory-work, reading comprehension, and writing. Best to stick with the 3 R’s to start. Check with Rainbow Resource, Homeschool Buyers Co-op for group pricing, used on Amazon If you have more than one child that might be using the same curriculum, look for PDFs and invest in a Black and White duplex laser printer. Also, Ebooks make it easier for everyone to read along. Language Arts English Lessons Through Literature by Barefoot Ragamuffin English Lessons Through Literature (ELTL) is a complete language arts program for elementary and middle school students. Each level has a textbook and an optional workbook which can be purchased separately. ELTL is a unique program which combines the gentleness of Charlotte Mason's methods with the thoroughness of classical methods. Each level of this program has three lessons per week for thirty-six weeks for a total of 108 lessons per year. Cottage Press Language Lessons for Children - Absolutely lovely Charlotte Mason style early elementary includes reading selections (included or free public domain downloadable or library), copywork, picture study, nature study, narration, and dictation. Core Knowledge Curriculum - Free downloadable for grades pre-K-8 Content-rich Language Arts, Science, History and Geography. Phonics Ordinary Parents Guide to Teaching Reading – Well-Trained Mind Press one book, used for for $2 Teach Your Child To Read in 100 Easy Lessons – one book, used go for $2 on Amazon Explode the Code – EPS – supplemental workbooks Bear Necessities and Dancing Bears – Sound Foundations Phonics and reading support for those who need additional work – dyslexic support Progressive Phonics- free online Writing Writing with Ease and Writing With Skill – Well-Trained Mind Press, grades 1-10 Wordsmith Series - Common Sense Press, grades 4-12 Killgallon Series grades 1-12 – check for used on Amazon Grammar First Language Lessons – Well-Trained Mind Press The Blue Book of Grammar and Punctuation Spelling Megawords – EPS – dyslexic support Math MEP (Mathematics Enhancement Programme) – Free Scripted printables, grades 1-6 Comprehensive School Mathematics Program (CSMP) – Free printables Key to Series inexpensive, topic-based workbooks for filling in skill gaps Key to Fractions, Key to Decimals, Key to Percents, Key to Measurements, Key to Algebra, Key to Geometry Math Mammoth grades 1-7 Light Blue – by grade Dark Blue – by topic/skill Math Facts That Stick - Well-Trained Mind Press Addition, Subtraction, Multiplication, and Division are individual books that solidify math facts. Singapore Math Dimensions (PK-5) or Primary Mathematics (1-5) Primary offers supplemental materials to customize to your child's needs Extra Practice: More practice on the same level as the workbook. Challenging Word Problems: Additional, more challenging multi-step word problems. Intensive Practice: More challenging, often multi-step or puzzle-like work covering the same concepts as the workbook. Khan Academy - free, online History Story of the World grades 1-6* can be done with multiple ages and levels Many secularize this series because of it's beloved storytelling style of history. can be done with just the books or can add more activity book includes questions, recommended reading, map and coloring work, projects Amazon has many used books Big History Project - Free, online grades 7-12 Writing integrated into work Covers multiple disciplines of science World History Highly adjustable by grade, content, length - Khan Academy, DK books have their own versions Science Earlybird Start-Up Science 1, 2, 3 and 4 by Singapore Math grades 1-2 - no teachers guide, answers in back Quark Chronicles – Barefoot Ragamuffin Lit-based science The Story of Science by Joy Hakim 3 textbooks, many used available on Amazon, student/teacher guide not required Shopping for Curriculum Rainbow Resource Sells just about everything your homeschool needs and usually at a little bit of a discount. Cathy Duffy Her website and book are extremely helpful when curriculum shopping. She provides a thorough review, with descriptions of strengths and weaknesses, the method/style and links to where to purchase it. Basically, Yelp for homeschoolers. Homeschool Buyers Co-Op Permanent and limited time discounts on homeschool curriculum The Homeschool Resource Roadmap This is the ultimate list of homeschool curriculum by subject, method, and worldview. All-in-One/Boxed Curriculum Buying the whole year at once can be a frightening and expense proposition. They can be overkill at times. At the same time, a cohesively planned boxed kit, where everything is already done for you, is a good way to sort through works and what doesn’t. Oak Meadow Bookshark Christian Light Education * The Good and the Beautiful* Memoria Press* Sonlight* Rainbow Resource Starter Curriculum Kit *both secular and non-secular options All-in-One Language Arts (Literature, Grammar, Vocabulary, and Spelling) Logic of English – Foundations – ages 4-7 Lightning Literature Michael Clay Thompson (MCT) – packages Learning Language Arts through Literature (LLATL) Phonics Phonics & Reading Pathways – Dorbooks - workbooks All About Reading – All About Learning Press Spelling All About Spelling – All About Learning Press Apples and Pears – Sound Foundations - dyslexic support Writing Easy Writing – Easy Grammar Systems Works only on varied sentence structure, One book for grades 1-10 Michael Clay Thompson (MCT) Writing series Grammar Easy Grammar – Easy Grammar Systems – grades 1-12 Math - *most math is open and go Teaching Textbooks online grades 3-12 CTC Math Online video-based – K-12 MathUSee History Beautiful Feet Books – grades 1-12 Literature-based history, requires purchasing or borrowing from the library Science Memoria Press* History of Science - Beautiful Feet Books, grades 3-7 Mystery Science - subscription model - video with linked lessons MPH Singapore Science - grades 1-6 Well-Trained Mind Forum Links You can often find the best threads pinned at the top of the forum. The Big Grade Planning Link List Link to threads that list by grade what curriculum everyone is using going back years. Super helpful when you are looking for ideas. Free Homeschool Curriculum & Resources Master list of on-line classes... High School motherlode #1 -- Starting High School / Tests + links to past threads! High School motherlode #2 -- Transcripts / Outsourcing + links to past threads! Inspiration and Motivation Susan Wise Bauer’s A Day at Our House Series
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