:iagree: This relationship needs serious help. Even if there's no abuse going on, imho you do not speak about someone you love in this way, not repeatedly! Once may be a joke, but that many times in one conversation is a red flag to me.

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I don't have the history ones, just Music, Life Science, and Geography. But, from those and from the examples I saw on the website, I would say yes.

Charlotte's Web Stuart Little The Indian in the Cupboard Narnia Sign of the Beaver Ella Enchanted Holes Tuck Everlasting Bridge to Terabithia

My olders are also natural spellers In 6th grade I switched them from spelling to vocabulary work. It works really well. DD almost never makes a spelling mistake. When my son makes a spelling error it's usually because he didn't reread his paper before turning it in, or he was just in too much of a hurry to get done:glare:. I solved this quickly by requiring that any misspelled words (regardless of how "easy" they are) be written out properly 20 times. It's amazing what this has done to reduce spelling errors, especially when you've had to write "friend" and "because" 20 times each! (Yes, I'm mean like that!;)). By the way, if he can't remember how to spell a word he can look it up, or even ask me and I'll spell it for him. It's rare that he needs it but it's an exercise to stop laziness and improve proofreading skills, he doesn't really need the spelling instruction. HTH

My ds is in 7th this year and he'll start WWS. Honestly, I have no problem with this. I don't worry about the grade level in a writing class, you have to meet them where they are. WWS will give him some serious skills for the future so we're going to use it.:D

:iagree: :iagree: This is what I've been doing with dd6 for the last couple years as I've done history with the olders. Life is so much easier when everyone is on the same time period. Last year was K for dd6 and it was the first time I required her to listen in and she occasionally did a narration, too. It worked well. This year we're doing SOTW 3 and she will be required to do 1 narration per chapter (orally). If I find that the material in Vol 3 or 4 is too much for her I'll just get some American history picture books that correspond with where we are time-wise and have her read and narrate those while the others are doing history. There's no shortage of good American history picture books at any good public library.:)

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This makes much more sense!:) The question really is, what will she be getting in school and what will be lacking there? First, I would make sure phonics are down cold. This is the foundation for all other things LA (and most other learning things!) If you're using ETC for phonics, then finish that first (assuming you want to continue with it). I do not consider ETC as a stand alone phonics program but I know plenty of people on these boards have used it sucessfully. It might work beautifully in conjunction with what she's getting in ps. If she's reading fluently, then I'd do spelling next. If she's getting good phonics & spelling at school, then I'd do FLL. FLL and WWE do not have to be done together, although the new editions of FLL are designed to complement WWE. If you choose FLL then I might consider doing both FLL and WWE together and just presenting it to ocd daughter as one program so there's no balking at not finishing one before starting the other.;) Personally, I'm going to skip 4 this time around because it's all about syllables and dividing them up properly. At the point when my ds9 (was 6 at the time) was doing ETC 4, he just wasn't ready to handle such intense work on syllables and it was nothing but total frustration for us both! So much so that we dropped ETC altogether after 4. Then, I read on these boards that lots of people skip 4 and do the other books then come back to 4 when they've completed the rest and it's a breeze. So, my plan is to do that with dd6 and see if it goes more smoothly. Dd6 loves workbooks so I'd rather not drop ETC altogether, I think it's a good reinforcement of the phonics program we're doing. HTH

I thought the book said somewhere you could do the first 3 steps somewhat simultaneously but not to go past step 3 if the phonograms aren't mastered. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong!) I spent a couple days exclusively on the phonograms then we did steps 2 & 3 while still mastering the phonograms. It worked just fine. By the time we were ready to move on to step 4 the phonograms were down cold!:) It took us 3 months to finish level one, ds was 8. But, we had had serious tears and frustration with spelling previously (using SWO) so I purposely went very slowly allowing ds to have as much sucess as possible along the way. This worked and now he enjoys spelling instead of crying at the mere thought of it. He's NOT a natural speller. Dd6 has been sitting in on plenty of his lessons this last year and I don't expect level 1 to take her more than a couple months. HTH

:iagree: What she said. When we start school in a couple weeks my dd6 (1st grade) will be doing the following for LA: Phonics = Finish Phonics Pathways (we finished about 2/3 in Kindy) and ETC 3, 5, & 6 (we skip 4) Grammar = FLL 1 (and then 2, I have the old combo book) Spelling = AAS (will start when we finish Phonics Pathways) WWE 1 = will start at the beginning of the year Handwriting = She wants to do cursive like big bro...:tongue_smilie:

I used the WTM list and several other lists I've gotten here and there. I found stuff at the library that applied, I asked here on the boards and irl friends....there's no lack of supplemental stuff out there. I recommend the "Famous Men of..." series From Memoria Press. (scroll down the linked page to see them). I didn't do the student/teacher stuff Memoria Press offers but we just read the biographies. They were well-done and Memoria Press has done a great job with the layout and adding pictures. HTH:)

I did not read Human Odyssey to them, they read it independently. I did read it when I made my lesson plans (to tell the truth, I found it fascinating!). I would just choose 2 or 3 people/things that I wanted them to narrate from each chapter and one section to outline. The level of outline and length of passage to outline depended on the kid. I did not use any other k12 materials so I can't speak to the student/teacher materials, sorry. We did history 2 days one week and 3 days the next (science was done on opposite days from history). There was also supplemental readings to do so often dd would do Human Odyssey and ds would do supplemental stuff that day then they'd switch the next history day. We would discuss most of this together at dinner. (I'm schooling four right now, mom time is at a premium!:tongue_smilie:) HTH

This is a great suggestion! The modern time period would be more difficult to do with a first grader so letting the olders have the exposure between now and school starting then diving in with everyone on Ancients would be a lot of fun. You could use SOTW 1 with your 1st grader and k12 with the older 2. My ds did k12 HO Ancients in 5th grade and loved it! You'd have to teach outlining, but you've obviously been doing that with your 7th grader already so you know what you're doing. The only hitch would be that k12 and SOTW 1 don't line up chronologically so you'd have to coordinate that. But, plenty of folks on here have schedules already done for that. So....Go for it!:001_smile:

Science is my nemesis so I can't help you there:tongue_smilie:. But, as far as outlining goes: did you know the Activity Guide for SOTW 4 is mostly skeleton outlines? It's designed to help teach outlining and help the child transition into logic stage. There are also coloring pages to go with it that you can buy for your 1st grader. If you continued with SOTW 4 your 5th grader could use the AG to learn outlining easily. If your 7th grader has a good grasp of outlining it would be simple to just have him finish reading SOTW to himself for enjoyment/exposure to the time period. Then, he could study and outline and work on the Ancients time period from k12 Human Odyssey. k12 HO is great for outlining, that's what my olders did this year. So, if your dc are used to outlining then k12 might be the way to go, you can require whatever level (one, two, three, etc.) they are ready for. As far as buying two of every book they are sharing: I've never done that. If I have enough money for another book then I want a different book;). I have just had my kids do their work at different times during the day (one does history before lunch and the other after). HTH:D

Thanks!! I'll check it!:D

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My older 2 did year 1 this last year. I bought 2 lab activity books but they shared everything else. It was simple. Depending on how much independent work you want them to do, you could even go with just one lab book. You could just have 1 kid be scribe for each lesson (or alternate questions) etc. I got 2 books because I have one who would prefer to let the other do all the work.:tongue_smilie: So, I had them each do their own books.

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:bigear: I'm looking at a really interesting teaching company lecture series on US History that I'll probably use to supplement our studies (as a fun break!). You can see it here.

:iagree::iagree: Beautifully said!

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A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon without springs. It's jolted by every pebble on the road. -Henry Ward Beecher We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. ~Aristotle "To accomplish great things we must dream as well as act." ~Anatole France "Change happens in immeasurable gestures" "You have to go through the storm to get to the rainbow" “God has entrusted me with myself.” "Your life is an occasion. Rise to it." - Mr. Magorium "That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the nature of the thing has changed, but our power to do so is increased." — Heber J. Grant Okay, this one is too long for a single bookmark, but maybe you'll like part of it and pull that part out: People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered; Forgive them anyway. If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives; Be kind anyway. If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies; Succeed anyway. If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you; Be honest and frank anyway. What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight; Build anyway. If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous; Be happy anyway. The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow; Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough; Give the world the best you've got anyway. You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God; It was never between you and them anyway." - Mother Teresa

:iagree: Depends on how you feel about violence. If you've read the book, the scene between Mrs. Weasly and Bellatrix is in the movie, bad word and all. I didn't find any of the kisses to be at all offensive. But, it was very dark and violent. That said, my dd14 and I both loved it! (We've read all the books together). Dh and I are going tonight, we'll see what he thinks, he hasn't read any of the books.:D