Thank you! I was going through the Table of Contents of various ones trying to figure that all out. We need long division, so we will have to start further back. :)

I'm thinking of starting with Ice Cream. It looks like it will hit on a few things for review, and she could go through the intermediate ones this year, too. Or I could start with the intermediate ones...we shall see!!!

Oh wait. The link you gave is different from what I read in their site just the other day!!

Thanks. I read what he says, and he says to start at the beginning, which seems a little nuts. She is not quite ready for the fractions book, though. She learns very quickly though and completed half of MM4, so TT6 is perfect despite her not having covered everything before it yet.

I'm thinking of having my mathy DD do LOF for a bit before moving into TT6, partly to make math fun for a while and partly so her older brother can move through it a bit before she starts (and hopefully avoiding him feeling bad they are on the same level.) Do I really start at the beginning with Apples, or would somewhere in the intermediate range be more appropriate? If its babyish, she will balk. Thanks!

This is my third kindergartner. I like kindergarten to be...kindergarten!!! *Headsprout reading, continue *probably OM K *some HWT since we own the blocks, etc. Simple, fun, beautiful. When I was in kindergarten we went for 3 hours a day, played blocks, sang songs, and learned the alphabet. Beautiful, perfect, sweet. Developmentally appropriate. There is PLENTY of time for rigor later on. Savor the innocence.

Thanks for the info! We could enroll in Duke then, and take the explore when/if we choose. After doing the CAT again this year, I just can't put her through a test again right now. She freaks out. She can't handle that she doesn't know all the answers, and she works slowly so can't always finish. I think I'd like to gt her enrolled so the opportunities are there when she is ready, though.

Hmmmm, I don't think you have to do WWE to do WWS, though it may have been helpful.

Thanks. I haven't totally decided, but I'm thinking maybe WW this year for ease since we are doing things very differently next year (for example, DS will be doing SL E independently while DD does something different) and with it scheduled out already, it will just make it logistically easier and flow better. Then maybe start with the other one for 7th. That's my plan this minute anyway, it could change lol.

I know someone has more info for me! :)

I'm having a hard time deciding here. We have not done Latin. Worldly Wise 3000 seems to work on more skills, with reading comprehension sections and such. It also happens to be scheduled it in SL, which is convenient since DS is using that next year. It teaches I think 200 words, which is pretty good. I would definitely use it at least one grade level ahead for him, since reading is his forte. It seems to have more components to help with general test prep (we do the CAT every year to meet requirements.) Vocabulary from Classical Roots appears to have more difficult words, and I like the way they are grouped so you learn the roots. My thoughts are it will extend to general vocab needs more readily. It is however shorter and includes no "extras" like WW does with reading. For DS, I would go with A for more challenge. My DD would be on grade level. What are your experiences? I'm feeling drawn to include vocab in our work this year. If we aren't going to get to Latin, we need something to extend ourselves a bit in that area.

Draw Write Now?

We are using MM now. I'd say it's "meh" for him. I'm thinking now of TT and LOF, a good balance for him. I think the computer teacher will have much more patience for him than I do, lol. Also thinking of Beast Academy 4 when it comes out as a supplement, since it has challenging problem-solving.

What other programs would encourage mental math?

We have been through MUS, SM, LOF (which he liked but didn't get it all, presumably bc of the Facts not being memorized.) He did awesome with RS early on but we switched for a few reasons. He really enjoyed LOF bc of the literary aspect. I should let him so some of that again too. He does do well in his head with that RS foundation, but I feel like it's too late to go back down that path. My plan right now is Develomental Math this summer to solidify long mult and div, with hopes of picking up Teaching Textbooks 6 or 7 in the fall. He does great with concepts. He does add/sub in his head all the time.

Thank you for your honesty!!!! Things to ponder for sure. We have some time. TT would be so much easier for ME lol. We shall see. I would likely go for dual enrollment later on if se truly advanced that much.

Thanks. Maybe I rambled too much lol!!! He told me he did it all in his head but not long multiplication and division. I have no idea. I wish we had done the written one now so I would have his answers. Oh well I guess!

The Red Pyramid series by Rick Riordan. Narrators are fantastic! The whole family has enjoyed them (well not the five year old, but even DH went through the series while underway on his ship.)

He rushes to get things done. Zipped through the CAT last week, did it online, and I didn't realize he was doing so. His scores were lower than they should have been, but that's ok, I know where he stands on most things. Or I thought he did. He had a LOT of trouble with math this year. Long division, long multiplication, fractions...huge bomb. We have been focusing on memorizing multiplication tables again to help things move smoother for him, which does seem to be working. I expected a low score on computation. He rushed through it...4th stanine. 7th stanine, rushing, for concepts...so he obviously has some idea what he is doing. Now here's what just hit me. He didn't write anything down. I saw about two problems from the computation section on paper. DD actually took the same test as he did bc the CAT is the same for those entering 4th-6th grades. She got like 45 correct, and she had work through each problem, write them down, etc...she was 98th percentile for computation for a kid entering 4th. He got like 43 correct, which while landing him in a low percentile for a kid entering 6th, has thrown me. How did he get so many correct without writing anything down??? What am I missing here, or what he is pulling? I would have always said he is 'gifted' in the reading department, but never suspected math bc of various issues. Or maybe the issue is laziness. :/

Oh good!!! :-) If she goes too high I plan to dual enroll her. :p

Does AoPS and its videos do the trick? I'm just trying to plan ahead a little, and trying to figure out what exactly will happen when my mathy girl gets to algebra and the deeper maths and I don't necessarily remember how to do it all. I like the videos for teaching, but what about when she does a problem and we can't figure out where she went wrong? I plan to use TT for my son, but I've been steered towards AoPS for my daughter.

According to FB, the first book set will be in July, with the other levels being available one every five months after that.

I forgot about that, but I think it wasn't until fourth grade?

I am just not writing clearly today. I did not mean it is impossible for a little kid to learn. Without the *exact*prep work, it is difficult. FLL taught DD a lot of mechanics and terms, but it does NOT prep for a standardized test. Nor was it meant to. My point is more that the test is very artificial for early elementary. Had I given my daughter a prep book like "Daily Paragraph Editing," she would ace it as well. She is super smart and learns very quickly...but editing, without having had practiced it, does not show this. That's really my point. I think it's a stupid way to test kids is all. It takes practice to spot those errors, and that is not the kind of practice given by the curricula we have chosen to do...the ones the SWB herself makes. I'm a little surprised at the dissonance on a WTM board. FLL failed both of my kids in this department...because it doesn't teach to the test. Which is,I think, why many of us like it...lol. I didn't start homeschooling so my kids could pass a test, but since they have to take them...I feel bad that delaying formal writing, and thus editing skills, causes them stress. All that said, I don't have plans to do things differently with #3, except remember to buy a stupid Scholastic book once a year so they can they have testing skills. :p

I wonder if the trial version has bugs? We have no issues at all with the paid version. It's just a supplement for us, and I find it a nice way to mix things up a little.