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Everything posted by WishboneDawn
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LOL! :D (And was dryly a pun? :D)
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Wow. We just have cheap wine. I'm going to have to have a talk with the minister.
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I think it's sad but telling that challenges are viewed as people turning against her rather then opportunities to explore other POVs.
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Except that it requires a paradigm shift to see ands the poster isn't willing to make that shift. To her it's simple truth. There's no arguing it because it's in the Bible. She's acting from a place of love and so no bad can possibly come of it. She is utterly uninterested in the points we might make because we are wrong. She is so convinced of the truth and beauty of her view of the Bible that she can't see the effect it's having on us, even on those of us, like me, who are Christian (although I'm not sure she'd allow that I really am a true Christian). We keep asking her to do the one thing, understand our POV, that he paradigm blocks her from doing. A discussion is an exchange of ideas. That is not happening here. We're effectively being preached to.
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I think most of what's being offered by people in this thread isn't going to be recognized, let alone understood and accepted.
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I'm dismayed by the lack of questions here. Evidently people don't think we're as mysterious and interesting as they ought to. We may have to resort to polygamy.
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All I am doing is repeating what the Bible says. No. What the Bible says --------------> 3+ (a-1) = x (See the intentional use of a variable Albeto? :D) What you're claiming it says ---> 3 - 1 = 2 This is because you need it to equal 2 and so what doesn't support your point (the verse from Zechariah in the context of all of Zechariah, that in the context of prophecies as a genre, those in the context of the Ancient Hebrews and the same with Romans) doesn't get plugged into the equation. So the Bible acts as a mirror and ultimately, as a wall. ETA: And now my use of the mirror metaphor has reminded me of a poem I love: Hope Holds to Christ . . . . . . . . Hope holds to Christ the mind’s own mirror out To take His lovely likeness more and more. It will not well, so she would bring about An ever brighter burnish than before And turns to wash it from her welling eyes And breathes the blots off all with sighs on sighs. Her glass is blest but she as good as blind Holds till hand aches and wonders what is there; Her glass drinks light, she darkles down behind, All of her glorious gainings unaware. . . . . . . . . I told you that she turned her mirror dim Betweenwhiles, but she sees herself not Him. . . . . . . . . Gerard Manley Hopkins
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Awesome. Huge digs have been a pet peeve of mine for awhile. Kiss and curriculum is a must for reference. Blog links, yes. Short quotes are fine. Entire scenes from Shakespeare and half a dozen gifs? No please. ETA: I was massacred by autocorrect. Digs? Kiss? Gawd.
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I don't know if I'd have the balls to write it in just that way if I taking that exam. :D
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Quoting myself because I'm so awesome but here's a basic rundown (I got access to the computer instead of having to use my phone): Catherine of Aragon was married to Henry's older brother, Arthur. Brother was a dork and went and died. Catherine (a very attractive catch alliance-wise) was then married to Henry. She was 24, he was 19. They got it on and she had a son. Who died. She kept having stillborn babies except for Mary (AKA Bloody Mary) and then just stopped getting pregnant. One heir was not enough (as Arthur had kindly shown) and female heirs just weren't kosher (there'd been some previous troubles). Now the marriage between he and her had had to have a special dispensation from the pope in the first place because it was against canon law for men to marry their brother's widow. Henry facepalms and thinks, "of course, God's not happy and so He will likely never let me have another child, let alone a son, from Catherine," so off to the Pope to try and get the marriage annulled. Oh, and there was a Hot Chick tm by the name of Anne Boleyn running around. The pope might have done it too if not for the fact that...*dun dun duuun* He was the prisoner of Catherine's nephew who just happened to be Charles V, the Holy Roman Emperor. Yeah, not happening said Charles V. Yes, not happening agreed Mr. Pope. And that was that. The break was made. Cranmer would write the Book of Common Prayer under Edward VI, Elizabeth would shape the spirit of the church in trying to heal the rifts that had been torn between Henry VIII's reign and hers and King James would solidify it all and produce a little read and hardly-worth-mentioning version of the Bible. And that is a hopelessly simplied version. It's a ridiculously interesting period of time that deserves a lot more detail.
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Annulment actually. :) I'll post a good link or to for you in a bit. If you like intrigue and politics, it's an awesome tale. But I should note that the church didn't spring fully formed from Henry VIII's head. The people and events between him and King James the first were formative.
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We're in communion with the Evangelical Lutheran church so you could have it all baby!
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We do have one member who's in a polyamorist relatioship but last time I remember that coming up in a thread people got very judgmental. She may be sort of shy about it now.
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My sure-to-be-unpopular opinion/rant...
WishboneDawn replied to StaceyinLA's topic in The Chat Board
Then I am totally in agreement.:) -
My sure-to-be-unpopular opinion/rant...
WishboneDawn replied to StaceyinLA's topic in The Chat Board
Then hopefully there will be legal consequences for the woman. It doesn't make a wash of the situation though. It doesn't diminish what he said. It doesn't somehow balance things out so that he gets away without consequences himself. -
My sure-to-be-unpopular opinion/rant...
WishboneDawn replied to StaceyinLA's topic in The Chat Board
It's not "just" ignorance. It's what a powerful man, who is in the position to discriminate and deny things to people who's color he doesn't like, honestly thinks. It's what a powerful man who makes money from black players and fans thinks. It's what a powerful man who, in part, represents a team, a city and a sort thinks. Because of who he is he has no excuse for thinking as he does and the power to make a LOT of people suffer because of his ignorance. How this came to light may be illegal and unfortunate but the fact is that it did come to light and the outrage is warranted. It was outright hate, not ignorance and there's no diminishing it with the modifier "just" because his hate has very likely victimized a lot of people. -
You're just jealous that I managed to capture the heat and soul, nay, the very essence of the CoE in such a brilliant post.:p
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A Brown-noser, teacher's or rather minister's pet. :D
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But mine is better. Besides, the other one is probably serious and earnest and therefore, not very Anglican.:p
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Note: Since I know that everyone is burning with curiousity about us I thought I'd start this thread. Since I'm lazy I thought I'd anticipate all the questions and answer them in one fell swoop. Oh, hello. You're talking to me...You're talking to me? Talking in church? You're not some crazy Evangelical, are you? Well, ask away. What do we believe? Oh, God, the Jesus stuff, that Henry VIII wasn't quite the douche everyone seems to think he was. Specifically? Well, that's tricky because we're not a confessional church, there's nothing you have to sign to join. Well, we have our three legged stool of scripture, reason and tradition but that's not really a thing you believe. And we believe in worship as a community (thought you're taking the community thing a bit far with this talking thing). So community. And stools. Which doesn't sound right somehow... This book? This is the Book of Common Prayer, our book of liturgy, written by Thomas Cranmer and arguably as influential on the Western world as the Bible and Shakespeare. Why? Oh, brilliant writing (think, "ashes to ashes, dust to dust.") and the fact that it went everywhere the Church of England did and the CoE went everywhere that England went and that was a lot of places. The book IN the BCP? Uh...er...um, well, that's Game of Thrones. No, it's not part of the service. No, it's not part of my worship. No, it's not...LOOK! The collection plate! Yes, that's wine. It becomes the blood of Christ? Ha! No, that's kooky Catholic stuff. They believe in Transubstantiation while we believe in Consubstantiation. Well, that's where the blood and the wine are both present, mixed together. Never mind, we're not a confessional church. You can believe it's in memory of if you choose. Drink the wine. Here, the Body of Christ for you. No, not the actual body of Christ. I covered that with the wine remember? Just eat it. What??? But if you don't drink wine, what do you drink? Grape juice? But the wine...It's alcohol. Free alcohol. FREE. ALCOHOL. No, I'm sorry, I don't understand. We're going to sing now. No, quiet mumbling is fine. If you sing badly you don't want others to know that and if you sing well then you don't want them to think that you think you're better then them. Best not to make waves. Nice mumbling. After? Oh we go out into the world refreshed to do the work of our individual ministries. Me? Oh yes...I will...It's just that Ned Stark needs me. He hasn't got a lot of time left. Come next week. You did fine today and we love to have new faces! Just don't sit in the front pew. You don't want anyone thinking you're a keener.
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I was looking up the citations and quotes from the site she used last night intending to post a rebuttal of Saddlemama's post. I got sidetracked but what I found typical for what I've come to expect. One citation was from a paper that want scientific but was an exploration of what Darwin meant when using certain terms, more literary. That's fine except that the quote used was being represented as a scientific statement. Another quote was from a NYT article ON a paper as if that was somehow useful. But much of the objections belonged to the realm of history, not science. THAT'S a valid point as I've been reading quite a bit from historians and specifically historians of science who aren't happy with how some events have been represented on both Cosmos series but it says absolutely nothing about the science being presented on Cosmos.
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I'm Christian. I have no idea what Christian worldview I'm supposed to think Cosmos is offending. I don't think it's twisting science at all and I'm quite happy, specifically AS a Christian, that they are not addressing ID/creationism as I'm rather tired of those being portrayed as features of some universal Christian worldview.
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My answer to the question is that I often don't. Thankfully I belong to a church that isn't confessional and have a minister who encourages questioning and sees doubt as healthy. I don't know if I'll ever have an answer but I'm fine with that. Others have said that they found it much simpler when they dropped their faith after struggles that I assume are similar to mine but I'm sort of comfortable with the struggle and find it a pretty engaging and interesting intellectual battle. I've got a few decades in me at least, I don't feel like I have to go one way or another on the question of faith or declare, "this is what I absolutely believe from now 'till the end," anytime soon.
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Many people, Christians, sceptics, whatever, have differing opinions on what scripture might mean. It doesn't necessarily mean there's misinterpretation going on, it may mean there's disagreement. We have this issue in Christianity where we assume there's some right way to read scripture and other interpretations are invalid. I think there's more of a traditional of debate and interpretation in Judaism and Islam that we could learn from. Maybe it's because I came to Christianity late and had a very secular upbringing but I really don't get why the word "merely" is used in this context. I don't find there's anything mere about that idea. Yes actually. I can be a Christian of any type I choose and I won't be forced to change denomination or burned as a heretic or feel I have to flee my country in order to practice my religion. Yeah, it's pretty easy. ETA: I can't edit the quotes properly for some reason, sorry.
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Which movie scenes do you cry at even though...
WishboneDawn replied to MissKNG's topic in The Chat Board
Toy Story 3 from when they're joining hands as they're about to be incinerated to the end. Whenever my husband puts a Michael Bay movie in the DVD player. I also run away at that point.