He'd have an even greater following/claim to the throne if he was Targaryen + Stark. Maybe he'll marry Dani.

I have a few questions if you wouldn't mind sending me a pm. Thank you!!

Does anyone know if you can buy them after the fact. I blew it and missed purchasing one that is now sold out. :(

I'd like to get 3 also. Anyone coordinating? Pertty please!

A friend and I are teaching Classical Theater next year in co op and picked up several Prufrock guides. We also have Shakespeare A to Z by Boyce which I think is an indispensable resource.

No, probably the same version. It's just that ToG is our History spine. I am trying to choose lit that I can essentially do in just one semester because I want to spend the first semester using Windows to the World. So I used the ToG list as well as WTM to figure out the best lit. I appreciate your other suggestions!

Our co-op uses ToG. It provides the teacher with plenty of discussion points and from that she designed the research and geography homework they do. It's working really well.

How about either Gulliver's Travels or Faerie Queen?

Uh. I had NO IDEA. Thank you so much for this! With this group I can certainly NOT choose this book. Sigh...back to more searching. I have one long semester to attempt as much lit as I can. I may have planned too long of a reading time for each so maybe I can squeeze in an extra work or two. Time period is Fall of Rome-1800 (Tapestry year 2). So far I have: Beowulf - Heany (2 weeks) select Canturbury Tales (3 weeks) <-- to long for just General Prologue and 2 tales? Once and Future King - White I chose this because I think exposure to the Arthurian legend is important and this is a good one. Agree? (4 weeks) Paradise Lost Pride and Prejudice (4 weeks) This one is slightly past the 1800 mark but is on the ToG booklist. I have a couple of weeks reserved for a final but can rethink that. Please tell me what you would add. Maybe 2 more works. My mind is spinning with so many books and so little time. This is a group of 9th/10th grade and most of them have not been challenged by difficult literature before. Other ideas I had were possibly Robin Hood, skip OaFK and do Sir Gawain instead, Dante??, Aladdin? No Shakespeare is included because we are doing that in a separate classical theater class. I also plan to make suggestions to the parents of additional books the "honors" kids might want to read to turn this year in to a Brit Lit year. Edited to add: I'm sorry I'm repeating myself. I just wanted to be clear on what I have chosen and why so I can get some input and suggestions. :thumbup1:

I have a mixed class of 9th/10th graders this year. We're doing Lost Tools of Writing using ancient lit and its going very well. They needed this year of very specific persuasive writing instruction. Next year I plan Windows to the World 1st semester and then 2nd semester we'll read and write using medieval-1800 lit. All British. I'm going to give the parents a list of additional titles I think would round out a solid British lit year so they could either call it literary analysis or British lit. Almost like an honors option. My understanding is that EiW doesn't have specific writing instruction so if you can provide that it's fine. I'm hoping to use EiW-American the following year as it looks good and hopefully we will be past needing specific instruction

I know the Norton is the most recommended, but it's expensive. This is for a Year 2 Tapestry co op class. I'm going to use WttW for the 1st semester to teach lit anal. but then do literature 2nd semester. I'd really like to expose them to Paradise Lost and what I think I am REALLY looking for is a No Fear edition. But to my knowledge that doesn't exist. My kiddos will mostly be sophomores and TBH they are not the literature superstars we might hope for. I just don't think they can handle the original version...so should I drop it? Several of them actually have documented learning disabilities. I planned (over 18 weeks of a 2nd semester): Beowulf, Canturbury Tales (select), The Once and Future King (to get the Arthurian legend in), Paradise Lost, and Pride and Prejudice. For the more capable students I plan to assign more of the Brit Lit genre and they can hopefully turn this course into a Survey of British Literature on their transcript if they would like, but for most of them they really need a Literary Analysis and Writing course. Does that look like a weird list for a co-op? I know there are SO. MANY. BOOKS. we are not covering, but there is only so much time. I think 5-7 are good. How would you change my arrangement and/or do you have a Paradise Lost to recommend or what would you sub for that? BTW, so as not to think we are slighting Our Friend Shakespeare, we are doing Julius Caesar this year, Midsummer Night's Dream in a drama class next year, and for the "Brit Lit" suggestion I plan to suggest several more.

I think Bulfinch is a little boring. It's comprehensive, yes, but very matter-of-fact. We enjoyed other versions of the myths by Evlsin or Hamilton more.

My oldest is a girl so the tastes are different but she loved the Maze Runner series.

My 10 year old is loving Lemony Snicket right now!

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Thanks so much everyone! I think I really need to do WTTW instead and save EiL for the following year. This class has such a huge variety of skill levels and while most have writing experience they still need instruction. Sorry I hijacked your thread Nakia! Back to your questions!!!

So Debbie or Nakia...here's my situation, maybe you can help me. Doing ToG ancients this year with a group of 12 teens, almost all freshmen. I am using Lost Tools of Writing with ancient lit for them, so they will have a good grip on the persuasive essay by the end of the year, as well as having read Virgil, Homer, Gilgamesh, Greek myths, etc. Next year would be 10th grade, Medieval. I am thinking that instead of LTW 2, we might all enjoy moving more in to lit analysis and nailing down what that is...but with lots of writing. Thing is I want to use lit selections that go along with the history time period. Should I skip that idea and just use my Medieval selection as the "honors" titles and use EiL as scheduled? Is there enough explicit writing instruction for writing lit analysis? In general terms I like the lit selections a lot, they just don't really line up with Medieval! WttW is the same problem, really. I want to schedule the books I want dangit! But I don't know how to write it all myself. Can anyone chime in about this?

Which two did you get? I was thinking that British lit would fit in perfect next year but I think the co-op kids I have will need something intro first. Like Windows to the world. Curious to hear your thoughts about EiL.

Are you back from vacation yet?! ;) I have been stalking your website for a few days as I try to figure out what to do next year to teach mostly 10th graders lit/comp in co-op. For anyone: This year I am using LTW 1 but with ancient lit. I think it will work pretty well and I have slowed the pace to add in some time for book discussion. I will be using questions from Teaching the Classics and will try to get my hands on TWEM to give me more helps in discussion. But this is not a lit analysis course, it's really just literature of the ancients and writing the persuasive essay. These kids have all had at least one year of IEW, and probably various other misc writing. Now they'll have a solid year of the persuasive essay. I would love to just continue with lit that corresponds to our history rotation (medieval) but all the lit analysis and comp guides seem to use very specific lit that doesn't translate well to me using my own selections. It seems WttW would be perfect except for that, and EiL doesn't have enough specific instruction maybe for kids very new to literary analysis and writing about it. Anyone have any thoughts on that or other suggestions? Or is lit analysis critical enough to forget trying to tie in the corresponding lit (just assign some of those titles as pure reading for their history class). Ok, no more rambling... :willy_nilly:

Thank you Shanvan! I was doing a bunch of research last night and while I love the look of EiL I think starting with WttW and TtC is a better fit. More research to do and threads to read!

I thought this was a good read: http://www.expandingwisdom.com/p/starting-classical-co-op.html A friend and I are teaching a small group of high schoolers this year. I'm teaching writing/lit using LToW, and she's using ToG to teach Ancients. Our goal is to get this group (which includes our two eldest kids) through the 4 year history cycle through high school. Then we eventually had 12 other kids join us! We also had to have a plan for younger siblings, so this is now explanding to planning a full out co-op for next year. I'm on the hunt for resources and discussion. Those that teach HS writing in a co-op setting, may I ask what you use for writing? We are using LToW, which I love, but I am not sure all the parents or kids would want to do LToW 2 for sophomore year. They may want to have a year with guided instruction for different types of essays/research papers, however I still hope to combine it with literature. Unsure what direction to take.

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Wow! Thank you. What an amazing resource!

What is CHOLL??

Anabel, this is very very helpful! After looking through the samples more I think I'll just back up on ELtL to level one too. We have not done that literature and it's too good to skip. Plus the copywork is more challenging in level 2 and that's where he needs some work. Can anyone tell me... hardcopy vs ebook? I see the paper version of 1&2 combined for like $33 on Amazon. Seems like quite a savings to me. I recall a complaint or something earlier in the thread that it's too big? Would it not be pretty easy to split it yourself into 2 parts and spiral? I'm going to get the ebook of RLtL 1 and skip the reader. I hope to move really quickly through the spelling. I wonder if anyone can tell me a few words on the last couple of spelling lists from level 1? Still super undecided on handwriting and buy/not buy a workbook for ELtL. He's been working through the first cursive book of HWT, but he goes sooooooo slllllooooooowwww forming each and every letter attempting perfection. And I notice it seems like he has to try too hard to make his letters vertical when his natural tendency seems to slant. So I think I might have to drop it and find a more traditional slant cursive. But I would hate to get the HLtL and start him that far over with forming all the phonograms. He will really and truly look at me like "you have got to be kidding me". Anyone have additional advice?