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OK...i am learning about a specific building which is a Presbyterian church. I know about the history and particulars of this specific building, which technically is all I need to know. Bc I will not tell tour groups about the religion, bc it is not part of the tour.
But I am curious about Presbyterianism (which is not a denomination, thank you for that!) for my own interest.
does that help?
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6 minutes ago, EmseB said:
Also I may be misinterpreting what you're asking about because I don't understand what a Presbyterian church building is or looks like because I've attended several and none of them have a distinctive look. Right now we're meeting in an SDA church.
I have my resources for the building. I am fine with that.
I just am curious about the beliefs, worship, etc. I don't *need* to know that stuff, just want to know.
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1 minute ago, EmseB said:
Presbyterian is just a system of church government. The theological beliefs of different Presbyterian denominations will vary widely. There are typically elders (including a pastor) over the local church body, a presbytery (usually regional/geographic) over the elders in each church, then some type of general assembly that handles denomination-wide theological statements and the like. But Presbyterianism isn't a belief system.
ah. why are churches named things like First Presbyterian?
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1 minute ago, Arctic Mama said:
Like, as in the physical structure? Most Presbyterian churches around here aren’t in anything special compared to any other Protestant church 🙂. The interior may have some differences, but that depends very much in the body and type of Presbyterian in question!
No, the religion...beliefs, history, etc.
I have resources for the building and I am in the early stages (like larva!) of learning about ecclesiastical architecture so I am good there.
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Thereason I want to know is bc I am learning about a Presbyterian church. this particular church is new *to me* but an older historic church that would be included on a tour I would give.
I don't technically need to know the religion to talk about the building but I am curious.
If you feel like it, just the basics are fine. I know a bit about the denomination but feel free to explain like i am five. 😉
thank you!
I'm fine with the building...I know the history, style, architect, interior, etc. I will not be talking about Presbyterianism for any tour, however I am curious for my own interests.
I hope I clarified a little.
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6 minutes ago, Annie G said:
Unsinkable, thanks for taking the time to post how you make chicken! I’m going to be able to use this for both my dad and our son, who gets off work around 11 Pm. He arrives home hungry but I really don’t want him to mess up my clean kitchen (and he’s tired and really just wants to eat).
‘Your comment about not walking away to talk to the dog cracked me up!😄You're welcome. They are nice for tossing with rice and veggies, in salads, with pasta. The thinnest pieces are good for rolls on sandwiches.
I very very much dislike thick chicken breasts, mostly because of texture. I also don't like worrying about undercooked chicken and this really eliminates that worry.I
The dog is very distracting! LOL
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I've come up with a plan to make chicken breasts that I finally like and that produce tasty breasts right out of oven and are still tasty reheated after a few days in frig. You could do this and freeze some at your house for you dad then deliver them.
I get chicken breasts with rib meat so they are very thick. Also, the kind I buy are varying sizes in one package...the thickness and varying sizes are a PITA to get it all good, until I came up with this plan.
here it is, no complete sentences, I'm sorry!
preheat oven to 415degrees F
Pour a few tablespoons of vegetable oil on sheet pan/cookie sheet (IOW, a pan with low sides)
Using kitchen shears (or paramedic/ER scissors, LOL) trim all the yucky parts off the chicken...there is usually a big bloody chunky gross area on the back near the tender
using a cutting board & chefs knife, cut chicken in half horizontally, so you have 2 thin breasts (this in the most important step, IMO.
Put the chicken on the pan and flip and coat both sides with oil. Salt tops of pieces.
Roast in bottom half of oven for 12-15 minutes. Chicken should be about 150-155 degrees bc we are going to broil next.
Take chicken out, turn broiler onto high.
drain off as much liquid from the pan as possible. Do not let chicken slide into sink!I
Now, pour a little marinade or dressing into each chicken piece, whatever flavor you want, we use teriyaki, honey mustard, italian, and Greek the most. BBQ sauce is good too, but I have issues with tomato based BBQ sauce on chicken but I'll do it for The Others. Spread sauce to completely cover each piece.
Stick under broiler and broil until the sauce/marinade/dressing is set. this takes 4-6 minutes. watch carefully, don't go start talking to the dog or anything. Check often. Once the sauce is set, with the littlest amount of brownish spots, remove.
I cook 4-5 lbs of this at once. I also do more than one sauce flavor at a time.
THese last a good 5 days in frig. They freeze nice and flat (bc they are flat) and they thaw FAST because they are thin. So you can do a bunch at once, in different flavors, and freeze and store at your house, then grab a couple to bring to your dad.
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The justification I hear seems to be:
*Unless you've had to restrain a child in a chair for meals, you don't have a child who needs to be restrained in a chair for meals. "
Which I disagree with, whole-heartedly. As a mom, no meal is important enough to restrain a child. It is a parenting decision, not a *child behaves thusly* decision.
I also have said I would never fight/argue/coerce with a child over food And eating...And have received unrestrained vitriol and the same justification from board members...unless you've fought/argued/coerced a child over food or eating, you don't have a child that needs to be.
I find the justification ridiculous in both instances and it also goes down a very dangerous road, IMO.
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22 minutes ago, Catwoman said:
I agree.
Also, I would take her to a cardiologist, not an urgent care. That would help avoid things like flu germs.
I'd tend to agree with the cardiac doc. Except this seems emregent, if I am reading the chronology right.
It might be worth a call the the doc who dealt with the blockage.
I wish you lived here, Quill. My medical person would get you straight into a disinfected room, so you all could bypass the waiting room and triage if you decided to go in.
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2 hours ago, Quill said:
Part of my reluctance is just this: it takes time. It’s a day or more of lost income for my dh. Nobody pays him if he’s not at work. I also don’t want to put her around germs any more than necessary. While we were at Urgent Care, three people came in sick as can be and only one - an adult - put on a facemask.
The last part of why not is because three other family members have seen her now and nobody is like, “OMG! Take her to the hospital right now!” She’s been in poor condition for more than a year. And - I don’t mean to sound calloused - I think all the family members accept that she doesn’t have years and years of life ahead of her. I have not seen her Advanced Directives but I *think* at this point nobody is going to extraordinary lengths for her to live longer. For instance, she has no food restrictions. When she had the blockage, diet was discussed but it was decided that at this point, there was no purpose in, say, cutting out eggs, sugar and butter. She’s eaten like a farm girl her whole life. So the decision wasn’t, “We must clean up her diet so she’ll live to be a hundred!” It was, “90 years is a good long life. Let her eat the bacon.”
I mainly just hope she doesn’t die on my watch. And yes I feel like a terrible human being just saying that. I keep erasing it and retyping it. But I guess I’ll let it stand.
I don't want to be all doom and gloom...But there is a chance it is another blockage that is causing the shortness of breath.
And IMO, some ILs can close ranks and turn on a dime. Especially sisters. I'd hate to have them point fingers at you, Quill.
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I just saw this! I hope everything went well!
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So I talked to my medical person...
And his thought is she could be filling up with fluid, check for CHF, and that the UTI is coincidental to the shortness of breath.
I'm sorry, Quill. Lots of hugs and best wishes.
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1 minute ago, Matryoshka said:
In German, LEE-dle. Who knows how Americans will pronounce it...
I'm glad I asked.
I would have said lih-DELL.
There is a business called Takl, it's an app for handy man type jobs. They pronounce it "tackle" like *tackle the quarterback. "
But every time I see it, my eyes see "TALK."
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How is Lidl pronounced?
TIA!
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17 minutes ago, Seasider too said:
And.... I experienced the same thing when we moved to a city in the upper plains. Lasted less than two years there.
Mean girls are everywhere. It’s just harder to navigate when they’re in your family.
ETA as I said unthread, there are a lot of stereotypes associated with the south. But anywhere in the world that self-esteem and having access to the “best” opportunities is associated with social standing, you will find this behavior. I believe it’s not limited to women; men just do it in different ways.
Personally I’ve found it worst in two general places. Geographically, smaller towns that do not have people regularly flowing through, as they would with corporate relocations, military transfers, etc. The other way is within organizations, wherein a child’s performance, and a parent’s ability to contribute to fundraising - like a sport, classical ballet, or theater - moms can be very defensive and territorial (this can also apply to adults, I dropped one museum education volunteer group because the adults were so competitive). I imagine in these situations, if someone feels they’ve been bumped off the top, there’s no other place to go.
It’s sick, and sad, but very real. When I’ve been in circumstances like this, for my kids’ sake, I’ve kept my head down and just let the kids do their thing. If I encounter it in clubs, whatever, on my own, I find another place to invest myself. But if you’re married into it, that’s harder unless you want to ostracize yourself. And that’s sad, too.
Anyway, I wish y’all would drop the idea that this only happens in the south.
And drop the idea that only women do this.
In boys' sports...holy cow! Some male coaches and some dads...the power of the coach for playing time, the jockeying of the dads to get into the coach's "Inner Circle," the dads of the top players only socializing at games with each other!
And this ( the forming of exclusive power group/social hierarchy with coach) was almost universally *male based* in boys' sports, esp hockey and baseball.
Not to say that some moms weren't doing anything exclusionary. The first day on a new team I was told by a group of moms "Oh, you're the goalie's mom? You need to go sit by yourself so we can talk about your son."
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I would definitely call her.
Most people have a basic decency to them and would want to help you, given your situation. I think this even applies to friendships that ended like yours and hers has.
I think you'd regret more NOT giving her a call than calling bc of the situation of trying to gather info for your son. You're not calling for a trivial reason.
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10 hours ago, wintermom said:
How are the tours going? Are they getting easier? This is a really cool volunteer activity!
Aww, thanks!
I haven't had any since my thread asking for advice re public speaking bc there aren't as many tours in the winter. The vast majority of the tours are outside so we scale back the schedule and just do a few a week. I do have a couple coming up though!
I have to go back to that thread bc I wanted to jot down all the good ideas and I got distracted before I did that.
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The issue is the idea that women as a "group" are categorized as less than and it is OK to do that.
and then crimes like the rape of this teenager are memory holed by the cult of celebrity worship.
I don't know. I'm probably not saying it right.
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There is an interesting book called Drive, the surprising truth about what motivates us by Daniel Pink.
Punished by Rewards is pretty much a classic, though.
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5 minutes ago, SusanC said:
I remember a Wall Street Journal communist 20 years ago writing about how his kids had to do chores as a family responsibility, but if they needed pocket money he would pay them to go for a run. Perhaps he paid by the mile. Before kids I thought that was brilliant, after kids I still think it is a good idea, but I've never been able to put it into practice.
I like the occasional, specific reward. Asking me, "is there a reward for this?" Will result in the appearance of a scary, thunderous look from me.
That sounds weird. If it is their money, they get to spend it on what they want - and that should be part of your consideration up front. Don't want them running to the corner store to spend their money on baby carrot sticks? Pay then with ice cream coupons. 😊
LOL about what I hope is autocorrect in first sentence
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But "women! I don't get them!"
My brain is going to explode reading about how horrible Women! are in one thread (And the advice! What the cinnamon toast crunch is going on with the advice!) And this thread wondering how no one remembers the rape case.
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I wrote a bunch about becoming a volunteer tour guide in my city in other threads so I won't repeat it all again...
It was a "dream" for several years and I really *still* am shocked it has happened.
"Now if you'll look to your left..." LOL
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Thank you for all the feedback! I appreciate it and I am going to try to ask you all some follow up questions once I jot down some notes on what was already posted.
It might take me a bit to do that though. Thank you again!
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...with nervousness/excitement doing my tours? I volunteer giving tours in my hometown.
It is hard to explain how I feel before the tours I am scheduled to give. It is like a mixture of being super-excited and really nervous. In a way it is like two sides of the same coin, if that makes any sense. Picture a Labrador who sees her favorite tennis ball and is happy but then reallyreallyreally wants you to throw it but is worried you're not going to! LOL
Then when I am done, I am exhausted! Granted, I just walked and talked for 90-plus minutes but I feel like I shouldn't be THAT tired. I feel like much of the exhaustion is because I have so much adrenaline before and during the tours.
Also, I have times during tours when I come up blank...either for a single word OR for anything to say. So I will check my notes, then can't find my place or the words, then realize everyone is staring and I haven't said anything...
I need a plan or something to do in these moments.
SO...Toastmasters?
Any other ideas?
Anyone want to give me the basics about Presbyterianism?
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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10650773-how-to-read-churches
How to Read Churches by Denis McNamara
This is a great book, too. It is general but the author has RC specific lectures on You Tube for Catholic churches.
This series also has how to read a building and how to read a house