Don Quijote is one of my favorite books! ( and I happened to have been a spanish lit major). Of course there would be different views; mine would be that the antagonist is Spanish society which had turned the back on chivalry and christendom. I would say it was a commentary on the changing of worlds sort of like Gulliver's travels.

I would not say that Western is more colorful than Odyssey. I have both and Western has less pictures, mostly of the sepia nature, than Odyssey. I wouldn't call O particularly colorful either. Lwj

We used Western Civilization by Spiegovel to go with the lectures. Lisa J.

We had been coaches for several years and our experience is that without the competition most kids lose interest in FLL. It is pretty exacting and an amazing learning experience but the amount of work to get good at it is great and the kids seems to need that adrenaline boost. Lisaj

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Based on what I'm reading from the responses, you don't give a grade for an AP test. I taught my son Honors literature; gave him a grade; and then we practiced and took the test. Why would he not get a grade for the class? My 9th grade son took a course for Ap physics, got no grade and his taking the test right now, but I wasn't worried about that as his practce tests are in the high 4/low 5 range. He want's to get into Princeton at this point. Am I doing him a disservice? Thanks again! LisaJ

I was asked to explain a while back what are the ap classes my boys are taking. I explained that ap courses are a freshman college course spread out over a year with a standardized test given at the end of the year. If you get a 3, most colleges consider that an A in an honors class; 4-5 are acceptable depending on the institution for an A in college course. Is that the correct answer? :confused:I know there are exceptions (calculus bc is credit for more than one college course) but lately when I have been reading different things on the web and on this board I keep seeing two things- Ap is harder than the college course and CLEP is not as prestigious. How can that be? What am I missing? thanks!! lisaj

In addition to all these ideas, have you seen the Manga Shakepeare? Saw it at Borders but bought them through Amazon. They are remarkably faithful, detailed and in the spirit of the theater concept being visual! Lisaj.

I came to logic through grad work in linguistics which is in the English dept. Also, much of English credit is workbook style analysis of sentences (Abeka etc). I have students who wish to take the class but because of being in a diploma program need an English credit not humanities. I was sort of surprised it would be in humanities until I realized that I get logic books in the philosophy section of Borders! But is there no legitmate way it could be considered English? Just puzzled by this. Logic is thought analysis by way of language analysis, right? LisaJ.:confused:

I would definitely ( and am) using it instead of those two books. Also part of the material covered in Kreeft is exactly the material covered in the middle of Classical Modern Rhetoric, an English book! Lwj:confused:

:001_unsure:Can socratic logic by Kreeft be counted as an English credit? Thoughts? Thanks!