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  1. We've started the GFCF diet with ds. I really don't want 4 little bears and 1 big bear. So we are starting with him and working toward getting the rest of the gluten out of the house. We had to change ds's vitamins because 1 had gluten in it and the other had dairy. I wonder if that was part of the problem before... we didn't even think to look at his vitamins for gluten or casein.

  2. My 10yo ds was diagnosed with SPD and ADHD combined at age 6. At 9 he was re-evaluated and diagnosed with PDD-NOS... the SPD and ADHD still apply. He has severe SPD, very verbal but misses the social stuff, with attention, working memory and processing issues.

     

    I have a 12yo ds who is HG with ADD and mild SPD, a 7yo ds and a 5yo dd who have mild SPD

  3. This one isn't advanced just cute...My son 7 was talking with my daughter 5 today.

     

    ds:"It doesn't matter how annoying you are to me, I'll always love you."

    dd: "Thank you, that's very reassuring."

     

    Yesterday the same two were building a fort together. Their conversation went like this...

     

    ds: "We can't have too many pillows in the fort or the structure will be disproportionate."

    dd: "Yeah, I know, we need to have acquitted spacing for our Dora and Diego toys."

    ds: "How many chairs do we need?"

    dd: "I don't know maybe, Cinco, quinque or five? What do you think?"

    ds: "Five is fine we don't need to impress anyone."

     

    (My BIL has a habit of asking dh "Who are you trying to impress." I guess the kids have noticed.)

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  4. Can you just make an appt with a gastroenterologist or a pediatric allergist yourself?

    The gastroenterologist that my son saw when he was a baby was woefully ill-equipped to deal with my son. He hasn't had any noticeable gastro problems since then so we never took him back. The doctor never did any testing aside from a single blood draw, bowl palpitation and a visual assessment of his feces. He decided before he even saw my son that his weight loss was due to either my neglect or my "lack" of breast milk. The "solution" of formula made matters worse, but they insisted we continue doing the same. My mom-sense decided against that course of action so they wrote us off.

     

    As far as allergies goes, our ins. requires a referral which my ds's Ped. seems to think isn't necessary. The Psychologist has said ds may have allergies. He wants ds to do the gfcf diet for a while to see if the allergies symptoms go away. He seems to think it may be a preservative in something he's eating or it could be gluten or casein.

  5. I had an autism psychiatrist tell me when ds was six, "He's not autistic, he just needs an old fashion spanking." Her exact words.

     

    Some other hurtful comments we've heard have been;

    "He doesn't belong with 'normal' kids."

    "What's wrong with him? Is he stupid?" Yes an adult asked me in front of my son if my son was stupid.

    "He's too old to whine like that. Can't you teach him to 'man-up'."

    "I don't care if he's autistic and didn't understand the rules he can't have a second turn." (This by the same person who gave a typical 6yo a second turn because she was just little).

    "You're lying, autistic kids are retarded and your kid is smart."

  6. :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

     

    What formula did they put him on? Was it an elemental formula?

     

    I'd tell you Ped. either give a referral or we'll find a Ped. who will. I'm so sick of these idiots who think they know it all. I mean doctors. :lol:

     

    I don't know what an elemental formula is but he was on Similac, Similac Expert Care for diarrhea and finally Enfamil ProSobee (a soy based formula). The doctor was very smug when he started getting better until I told her that we went back to only breast milk.

  7. I'm just so frustrated with Doctors. Those pompous so n' so's. I don't know how much I've shared here about my ds 10. So please excuse any repeats.

     

    When he was born he had the cord wrapped around his neck twice. His little body was a bright shade of purple and he needed oxygen to breath. He was 4 weeks early. Wen we took him home and seemed fine. I nursed him and he was an eager eater. He seemed quite a happy content baby though he wanted to be held a lot more then his brother who hated to be held.

     

    At his 6 months checkup Dr. said he needed to start baby food. I hadn't started quite so early with his brother but trusted the Dr. So I gave him rice and oatmeal cereal. His bm changed immediately as did his behavior. My happy baby started crying all the time and he started losing weight. The Dr. said it was because he was hungry and needed more baby food. She also said my breast milk was probably drying up. At 7 months we added veggies then fruit and meat. He was eating more then his older brother by this time but hungry always.

     

    At 8 months the Dr. decided that ds had Failure to Thrive. We were investigated for neglect. grr. We were sent to a gastro. dr. who did not test at all for allergies even after I asked several times. They did test for Cystic Fibrosis and felt his bowls. They eventually did a blood test for Ceilac but no biopsy which is a more accurate determiner for Ceilac. They just assumed it was because I was nursing and not feeding him enough.

     

    They put him on formula that made him even more sick; his skin turned ashen and he vomited after every bottle, sometimes vomiting up more then he drank. His body was limp and all the things he'd learned before were gone. I had a newborn in an 8 month old's body. He would scoot around on the floor without lifting his head because it was too heavy.

     

    At 9 months I decided that the advice of the specialists were not working... they kept rescheduling our appointments and not really giving my son any care. He'd gone from 23lbs down to 13lbs in 3 months. So I took him off all food. I stopped giving him formula and just nursed him. He got better. On his 1st birthday he had a piece of cake but other then that he only nursed until 16 months. He started getting better but his progress was a bit behind the scales.

     

    By 2 he seemed better physically. But he was all over the place. He potty trained himself in 2 days; he hated urine or bm on his skin. But he was climbing on the roof of the house (not normal boy behavior). Running into walls every 5 minutes and playing with lots of little non-toy things like paper clips and screws. And he chewed holes in his clothes.The new Doctors again said, "Oh, he's just all boy." What the... grrr. I was told that being a "young mom" (in my 20s not that young) I was over analyzing everything. She did suggest a harness for our public outings.

     

    At 3 those behaviors were getting worse. He still could only parallel play. And the obsessions with things began. Still the doctors knew that he was just being "all boy". Can I just slap the person who made up that ridiculous statement.

     

    Ds began reading at 4 and refused all the fun books I offered in favor of the encyclopedia and the dictionary, anything on space or animals but noting to do with fantasy or people. We were homeschooling my older hg ds so it seemed appropriate to start ds as well. But he had no interest in learning from "boring books" as he called them. He taught himself how to add, subtract, multiply and divide. He refused any writing instruction no matter how fun I made it. But anything hands on was fair game. Still he cried if I picked him up too fast. Taking him out places was horrid, he had no sense of danger and would run headlong into traffic... something the doctor assured us he'd outgrow before "school".

     

    At 5 I knew he was beginning to develop lopsided. We thought maybe he needed school for some social skills. He knew so many things yet couldn't play well with others. He was always happy at home, but seemed miserable out in public. Often crying for people to be quiet in the restaurant and saying that the lights are to loud in the grocery store.

     

    Just after his 6th birthday (Nov.) we finally insisted that this was not normal "all boy" behaviors. She refereed him for an Autism evaluation. By then I was sure there was some sort of sensory issues going on.

     

    The psychiatrist denied that ds could have SPD as it was not a real disorder. She gave him a dx of ADHD-combined and also said he did not have Autism. And that he would not be admitted into Kindergarten in the fall as he was not well enough behaved. Which could be eliminated quite easily by a swat on the bottom. She actually suggested that we spank him! We did not offer that we had used swats on a regular basis and that he didn't really seem to feel swats (another of his many sensory issues).

     

    She had given him a K Readiness Eval. which placed him at age 7.5 months. He was reading on a 5th grade level but he wasn't ready for kindergarten. This really confused me?

     

    He cried at the noise of the vacuum, spun around wildly for hours, covered his ears at the sound of a dog barking two blocks away, was a fool in the grocery store acting as though he were drunk, was very hyper running all over the place, ran into walls 20-30 times a day, had no impulse control, was dangerous in public, cried at the scratchiness of his cotton clothing, could not hold a fork or pencil properly and so many other issues.

     

    We insisted on a referral for SPD. I am so glad we did. He had the most sever case of SPD that the evaluator had ever seen. He was both seeking and avoiding depending on which sense was involved. He was hyper because he was under stimulated in his proprioceptive and vestibular senses. He had to stay moving just to stay awake.

     

    He was in OT for over a year before we saw any improvements. We could only afford 30 min. a week of therapy while he needed 30 hours a week.

     

    Again we looked at the Schools for help. We were told that he was "fine" and that if he were placed in PS they would not give him an IEP because ADHD was not something that merited an IEP. So we we homeschool him.

     

    We did most of the therapy at home on our own. By the end of the first year he could walk on a balance beam and he stopped running into walls. Brushing seemed to help his proprioceptive and vestibular issues some.

     

    We stopped for 6 mo. and saw no improvement. When we resumed his therapy we shelled out $250 for a compression vest. By the end of that year almost all of his major behavior issues were gone.

     

    We started seeing black circles under ds's eyes and he seemed even more pail then he had been. We asked for allergy tests. The doctor saw no "need" for such testing. This was now my sons 3rd doctor. It feels like we've been fighting tooth and nail for doctors to believe us that something isn't quite right. I have had to fight for every blood test, every evaluation, every therapy. It shouldn't be so hard.

     

    He is doing so much better now, but he is far from "normal" or "all boy". He seldom complains about loud noises anymore. He has good balance and seems to enjoy his world. He is only a year behind in penmanship compared to his peers.

     

    He accomplished our original OT goals way back when he was 6 and then some. He is now going to OT and Social Thinking groups. He is focusing on more traditional OT therapies now. His sensory issues aren't "gone" but he has learned to deal with them and the world around him.

     

    I still often wonder if he really has ADHD or if it is all due to the sensory issues. It's hard to know when you ask,"Why are you not paying attention to me?" and you hear, "The refrigerator is too loud." if what is happening is an attention issue or a sensory issue.

     

    In April of last year ds was dxed with PDD-NOS and ADHD-combined. In Nov. he saw a neurologist who said the SPD seemed to be gone. I still see it, but I think it's because I can tell when he's just a bit squirmy at a noise or smell. He's learned to be polite about bad BO and crying babies, but that doesn't mean they don't bother him. I can see how exhausted he is after an outing with so much stimulation.

     

    I am a bit angry at the 1st doctor who missed the PDD-NOS. But I'm really sick of these doctors acting like they know everything and then dropping the ball with my ds.

     

    I have no doubt that if ds hadn't gotten all those hours of professional OT and all those sudo mommy OT hours he'd be a bundle of nerves now. He'd likely have a dx of OCD and some sort of anxiety disorder now.

     

    We've had very little "help" from doctors, his ped. now his 4th doctor is clueless, his psychiatrist was baffled and sent us to an autism neurologist who said his only advice was to give him a very small dose of some drug to help the ADHD during school hours. School is the least of our worries. And I'm not going to drug my son just because this guy thinks it is a good idea.

     

    Saturday we went to my oldest son's psychologist (a specialist in gifted children) at a loss of what else to do. In an hour and a half he gave us more help then we've gotten in 5 years of those doctors.

     

    But now I have to decide. Do I listen to his pediatrician who things that the GFCF diet is going to make ds sick and bring back the FtT or the psychologist who says that ds is having an opiate reaction to gluten and casein. We tried the GFCF diet on our own several months ago... for three months and saw no difference, except in our wallet.

     

    Well if you've read this so far... thanks. Sincerely frustrated.

  8. I'm thinking our Science Hiatus is over. We dropped science to do other things at the start of the new year. Since we're doing Zoology the warmer months seemed like a better time to do the experiments.

     

    But today I found my 10 year old with my glue gun and a bottle of bubbles in our school room. When I asked what he was doing he said, "An experiment in the determination of the buoyancy of bubbles." I'm not quite sure how he was going to measure the buoyancy of bubbles with my hot glue gun, but I'm going to take it as a sign that we need to step back into some hands on exploration.

     

    I really do love science stuff... I just hate the mess that it makes. :001_huh:

  9. Right now we're doing a family garden and have decided to become Weekday Vegetarians so all our focus of late has been on food. We started going through TED's Chew On This Series.

    Our favorite is Dan Barber's How I Fell in Love With a Fish

    Second Favorite is Dan Barber's Foie Gras Parable But we haven't finished the series yet.

    Our Current non-food top pics are:

    Questions no one knows the answers to

    and The cockroach beatbox

  10. For us it was Twice Exceptional concerns with both our older two. Our Ins. covered the costs of all their testing.

     

    My oldest son was tested by a psychologist with a gifted specialty at 7 years old. We suspected that he was Twice Exceptional because he struggled greatly in math and was reading at a 12+ grade level. We were perplexed with a child who could read and understand Plato, but cried when presented with a math problem of 2+4. The psychologist was able to stir us in the right direction with the types of resources that would help him best. He took the WISCV and Woodcock Johnson.

     

    My second son was also tested by a different psychologist at 6 years. We also suspected Twice Exceptionality. Teaching him was/is very difficult. Yet he was very bright with things he wanted to know. We had a battery of tests done for him only one being an IQ test. He took the ADI-R (Autism Diagnostic Interview- Revised), Vineland-II Adaptive Behavior Scale II), SB5 (Stanford Benet Intelligence Scale), Bracken Basic Concept Scale, and SRC (School Readiness Composite). We then took him to an Occupational Therapist who gave him sensory testing for Sensory Processing Disorder. He actually did very poorly on most of the tests and the IQ test showed him as average/below average intelligence. He is being retested in a few weeks to see where he is now after 4 years of therapy.

     

    I'm beginning to see some ADD behaviors in my 7 year old who is accelerated in reading and math. I am considering having him tested too.

  11. I have another kinesthetically challenged 10 year old son. He is now 4 years delayed in all motor functions. We worked on learning to ride a bike every spring and summer for 5 years before he mastered it. Now he can ride like a pro.

     

    Soccer and swimming were both big flops here. No interest in organized sports in our family. My dh's idea of sports is NASCAR. But we do try to teach them the basics: toss a ball, hit one with a bat, ride a bike, roller skate, Frisbee toss etc. We're making progress albeit slow.

     

    We can't hide his awkwardness as he has older and younger siblings who are passing him up in abilities, but he's okay with it. We get snide comments on occasion, but other then the stupid people it doesn't bother me that he's delayed. I know that he will get there eventually. I hadn't planned on a sports scholarship anyway. :lol:

     

    Oh yeah, he started Karate about 3 months ago. He's awful at it but he loves it. Well, his Kiai is awesome. I'm hoping he will begin to focus enough in the next few months to begin to learn a few moves correctly.

  12. We love our MUS blocks. My oldest finishing up Zeta and still uses them for lesson page A every time. He's looking so forward to using the Algebra blocks next year.

     

    ...My only hesitation is that they are scored on one side - that's why I've always preferred C rods (no counting)...
    We are on our 4th child using MUS blocks, aside from first learning the color code we have not had any problems with counting the blocks. It took my oldest (math phobic ds) 3 weeks at age 7 to learn them. The rest of the children did MUS from the beginning and took less then a week to learn them at ages 5, 4 and 3.

     

    here is the "code" we use to learn the blocks:

    1= green (green tree)

    2= orange (tasty oranges)

    3= pink (pink pigs or piggies depending on age of child)

    4= yellow (sour lemons)

    5= sky blue (fluffy clouds)

    6= lavender (pretty purple flowers)

    7= vanilla (cream sodas)

    8= chocolate (chocol8)

    9= Aquamarine (submarines)

    10= dark blue (bouncy blue balls)

    100=red (red apples)

  13. Sorry it's a bit long... I guess with 4 children I've got more to report. We’ve all been ready for summer since February. Science and Latin got set aside in favor of finishing up the less fun stuff.

    Trials

    My 12 year old ds who is GT and ADD had a lot of trouble understanding his Logic book this year. We had to put it aside for next year. It was just too much thinking for him this year (oh, the hormones). We finally just dropped it after chapter three. Math has been a struggle too for him (his weak area). Socially he has been in despair. At the beginning of the school year we were going to a church in which the youth pastor offended him… saying that he was too young and immature to attend the youth group for at least 2 more years. Ds is very small (size of an 8 year old) for his age but at least 3 years ahead of his peers in knowledge and maturity.

     

    My 10 year old ds who is advanced and has SPD, PDD-NOS & ADHD combined seems to be at a standstill in math this year. His writing skills are really holding him back. He gets concepts so well, but his writing is just so bad and so laborious that he struggles. His focus is also off so much lately. He isn’t doing as well as I’d hoped in his Social Thinking group and distraction is a big factor there as well. We haven’t seen a whole lot of growing up yet emotionally. But he does have bad BO.

     

    My 7 year old ds who is advance academically & behind emotionally has been taking up some of his brothers’ bad habits of daydreaming and goofing off when he’s supposed to be focusing. We haven’t gotten as far as I’d hoped with his phonics program, but his reading has progressed nicely anyway.

     

    My 5 year old dd has not gotten near the attention I wanted to give her this year. Again we didn’t get as far as I’d hoped in her phonics program, but she seems to need very little repetition. We're still working on detaching from mommy's hip. I guess it's just a youngest thing.

     

    Triumphs

    My 12 year old has really taken off with computer programming and has rekindled his love of graphic arts. After changing to a new church he is finally finding some friends in the youth group and has begun to show some interest in spiritual matters. He hasn’t been spiritually challenged in such a long time despite his father and my efforts so it’s nice to see a spark there again.

     

    My 10 year old has improved quite a bit with his writing skills and has completed his Occupational Therapy goals 6 months before his therapist had expected. Another skill that is finally emerging is his ability to narrate. We’ve been doing narrations since he was 5 but over the last few months he can actually do one without being prompted for every sentence. It was like a light finally clicked on up there and he started just doing it with everything he reads.

     

    My 7 year old has gone from beginning readers to chapter books this year. I am finding that he needs to only see a math concept once and can infer it across a wide area of study. After my math phobic oldest I’m glad to have one a little less challenging to do math with.

     

    My 5 year old has been an amazing little sponge. Her enthusiasm to learn has been great. With 3 boys who would rather catch their hair on fire then to do math or grammar it’s nice to have one who loves learning the traditional stuff. Her penmanship has improved quite a bit over the year. It is so neat and legible with hardly ever a reversal. She’s nearly half way through our beginning readers and is so excited about getting to read chapter books next year. She got her ears pierced last Friday (her birthday) and was such a big girl she didn’t even cry. We were all very proud.

     

    I am quite looking forward to the summer brake. If none of the little ones need it I know I do. We are doing a garden this year and I'm excited already to see how they are learning so much in a less traditional way. If only they would unschool math for me like they are gardening. :lol:

  14. At 6 weeks my oldest no longer napped. He went to sleep at 11:00pm and was up between 5:00 and 5:30am each morning. He continued this schedule until he was 10 1/2. At age 2 he slept no more the 6 hours in a 24 hour period. Now at almost 12 he sleeps around 8 to 9 hours while his peers are sleeping closer to 11 hours.

     

    My other three children slept closer to 8 hours as an infants. At age 2 they slept closer to 9 hours.

     

    My dd is the only one who ever took a 1/2 to 1 hour nap with me once in a while at age 2.

  15. I have 4 children who are bright/gifted, one 2E. And none of them liked Singapore past Early Bird level. I have levels EB1-SM3 text books, work books, CWP, and IP.

     

    We started MUS with my oldest (who is HG) after trying in vane to retain Singapore. It is not always a good fit for a bright or gifted child. In our case it was distracting and annoying. The teacher manuals are not clear and the student text is very very cluttered. The only component that we have kept are the Challenging Word Problems series.

     

    I have 2 dc who are math lovers and they still did not like Singapore. My 7yo is advanced in math. We started him in Primer just after his 4th birthday and he also found it a bit easy. That is, of course, the point of the Primer book. While we did not skip work in the Primer, I made a game of seeing how quickly ds could get through the work.

     

    At age 3 it may just be that your daughter is distracted. If this is the case I don't see how an even more distracting format will help her. But since the books are only $8 a piece it wouldn't hurt.

  16. I don't know how normal it is but ds7 does the same with his es. I had a similar problem when learning to conduct for a music class I took in collage. After several weeks of the instructor telling me how I was doing it wrong and not quite knowing how it was wrong...he finally realized that I was doing it backward because I couldn't quite get mirror teaching.

     

    If your child is a lefty and you a righty that could be part of the problem. Lefties have a harder time doing mirror activities with a right handed instructor because they have to switch twice and that can confuse some.

     

    I have tried showing ds by sitting beside him as we write the letters which has helped some.

  17. Your son sounds just like mine at that age. He was always running into me and giving me bruises. He had a dx of SPD and ADHD combined at that age. He is now dxed with PDD-NOS. Sometimes there is overlap with developmental dxes. His older brother has ADD only and did not have any of the proprioceptive issues that my second had.

     

    Running into things is a proprioceptive issue that is 100% SPD that is not ADHD. Sometimes you will see hyperactive behaviors in the SPD population as well (because the child is under-sensitized and trying to stay awake) and attention issues (because there are to many distractions) found in some settings but not others. Attention issues are not ADD/ADHD if it is not causing significant problems with attention in at least 3 settings. Places with florescent lights are the biggest problem places for most (not all) SPD individuals. Attention and Hyperactive issues that are across all environments is more likely ADHD.

     

    My son has a particularly difficult time in Walmart. There are lights that are too bright and too loud (they buzz). There are people who don’t know that they should not be talking so loudly… or walking so loudly. And the smells, all those musky people smells, chemical smells, food smells, etc. What’s worse is when he says he can taste that lady’s perfume because it’s so strong… perfume that I can’t even smell. Oh, and did I mention the air conditioning units and how they can be an issue to sensitive skin. (DS is under developed in muscle feeling and sensitivity in with skin. So he bangs into things and doesn’t feel it but cries if brushed lightly as someone walks past.) Or the way the store is designed to trick neurotypical people to shop more (no windows, squares on the ceiling and floors) causes my son to see the walls and floors on the same plain and wreaks havoc on his proprioceptive and vestibular deficiencies. So my son was getting all seven senses overloaded every time he walked into the store.

     

    Some things that helped were to take ds to the store more often rather than less. We got ds sun glasses to take into the store with him. We made sure he was wearing long sleves and tried to limit our time to less than 15 min. at a time even if it meant having to go out and come back in. Of course OT helped… but it takes years of OT.

     

    But the biggest difference that we saw was when we got ds a pressure vest. He changed overnight. I saw him stop running into me. His hyperactive behavior was cut in half and he just seemed to be more there. Now we can go to the mall and stay an hour. I still don’t grocery shop with ds but he can take 30-45 min. in Walmart.

     

    As for your frustration, I can say that it does get better with time. Ds is 10 now and most of the hyperactive behaviors are concerned we are out of the woods. We are still working on the attention issues… and I’d say that is more his ADHD then his SPD. For you dh frustration… have him watch this 1 minute video and see if he could handle life like this 24/7. I think it may help him to find a little more compassion when he’s getting frustrated… at least it did for me and my dh.

    This is a fairly accurate representation of SPD overload btw.
  18. We live in a colder, wet climate as well. We have a personal trampoline that my 10 yo likes to bounce on a lot. He also has a large exercise ball that He bounces on in his room. He reads a lot of non-fiction. He and his brother play chess. Until recently they played with a much loved Rescue Hero's set. They build with Lego's. A nice alternative to Lego's that your son might like are Wedgits. My children prefer the larger sets to the mini sets.

     

     

    I need to get them more ink pads, but the color ones are expensive so I haven't been able to do that yet.
    The Dollar Tree has red, blue, green, yellow and black ink pads for a dollar each. We use baby wipes to get the ink off fingers after stamping (also a dollar).

     

    ...He did read two YA books last week, and I made him start another today when I found him laying on the couch doing nothing.
    I have found that my 10yo does some really imaginative thinking when he seem to be just lying on the couch doing nothing.
  19. I have never understood not allowing children to know and own their differences. My kids are smart. The kid down the street knows it, why can't they?

     

    What exactly is wrong with emphasizing that they are different... is it not true? Even mildly gifted children can be quite different then the average child in a given grade. It is quite likely this adult was not telling them anything they didn't already know anyway.

     

    I could say more... but since I am clearly in the minority on this topic I will just shake my head and move on.

  20. I have mixed feelings about grade skipping. We chose not to grade skip our boys but rather to go through each grade level at an accelerated pace in relation to academics. For state purposes the children are at the grade level they would be if they were typical children (except dd).

     

    If my oldest were in PS he would have necessitated at least 3 grade skips. First he would have been allowed early entrance into school at age 3 and skipping K. He was accepted into a science/math magnet PS for 1st after testing at age 3.2 years. The state we lived in at the time had no min. age requirement but did have a vigorous entrance exam. He tested 3rd grade but we were told that a child could only grade skip one year when entering the school system.

     

    At 6 he tested and was asked to enter 4th grade at a different magnet PS for highly gifted children, but he had already completed the level of work being offered for the 6th graders at that school.

     

    We then moved to another state and was told that he would have to enter at Level K if he were to go into PS. At 9 ds had completed the equivalent of what our local PS is teaching 9th grade honor students in all areas except for math.

     

    We have had many issues with age/grade related situations. Obviously academic situations have been an issue, but so have more social situations... such as interest based clubs, church and library activities and sports weather using age/grade or actual level ds usually does not fit well into group settings. Multi-age groups work best for him.

     

    My second ds is 2e so his output/input ratios are mismatched making any grade inappropriate for him. His output is at least a year below his age grade while his input levels very between 5th grade in Math and College levels in Science. If he were in PS he would have to have an IEP and aide. When tested at 5 for K entrance we were told that he would have to go into a special education Preschool and likely do two years of PreK after that. He was reading on a 4th grade level and doing 3 digit multiplication in his head at the time but could not draw a line or stand on one foot.

     

    My 3rd ds's birthday is in Sept. so he would be the oldest for grade (entering K at age 6). At age 5 he tested at 3rd grade level. The state allows early entrance into K as long as the child will turn 5 during that school year. So ds would have had to go into K even though he was doing 3rd grade work. Our district does not allow the skipping of 1st grade. So he would be in 2nd this year if in PS (if we would have skipped) but would skip 3rd and go into 4th next year.

     

    My dd will be 5 in April. She qualified for early entrance into Kindergarten. At the beginning of this PS year dd was already able to do all things in the K curriculum that our local PS uses. She fits best socially with children her age at this time... but like her brothers is often perplexed at the lower vocabulary skills of her peers. She has already begun to "dumb herself down" (as ds11 calls it) to better relate to her age mates.

     

    We have tried grade skipping for non-academic group activities and have tried to stay withing grade/age neither have worked out very well for any of our children. Ds11 has finally found art classes that almost fit. Ds10 has found Karate to be a good fit as there are children as young as 4 and adults of 40 in his class. Ds7 does best at age/grade because he hides his abilities in favor of fun. Dd4 is fine if she has a friend in whatever group she's in... but she is usually consigned to not learning anything new in a group setting weather it be church or ballet.

  21. My oldest 11 will be doing college level work by the time he's 14 but weather or not he will be going to college is another story.

     

    My second ds 10 will be doing college level work (aside from physically writing his material) by the time he's 13. But there is no way he will be ready to go to college at 13.

     

    My third ds 7 I think will be closer to 15 when he begins college level work.

     

    As for my dd 4 I think she may end up being the youngest as she loves anything academic and is the most advanced of the four at age 4.

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