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  1. 14 minutes ago, wathe said:

    We do this.  My kids administer expired epinephrine to apples.

    Quoting myself to add:  even if you do accidentally stab yourself, nothing bad will happen.  You will know what it feels like to have epi on board, and will have had valuable learning experience.  A colleague of mine accidentally got himself in the thumb with an epipen once.  Lesson learned and no harm done (the whole epi to the finger will make your finger fall off thing is a myth!)

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  2. 4 minutes ago, Spryte said:

    Kind of an aside, but if you’ve never used your epipens... that unknown adds extra stress.  You’ve probably done this, but ... Have you practiced with your expired epis?  That helps our kids a bit.  Practice on an orange.  Be careful not to stab yourself!  

    We do this.  My kids administer expired epinephrine to apples.

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  3. And for pfizer and moderna covid vaccine anaphylaxis, we are talking about 5 anaphylactic reactions per million doses administered.  It's not common.  (Which doesn't mean it's not real, of course.  It happens, and it's serious.  But it's also rare)

    ETA: compared to, say, penicillin, with an anaphylaxis rate of more like 1 per 5000 doses administered.

    ETA again:  we all like references here, so here's the CDC report citing 2.5 per million doses for Moderna, and 11 per million for Pfizer, which has since been revised to 5 per million, but too lazy to search for the original source for that, Reuters will have to do for now

     

     

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  4. PEG allergic people tend to present as mystery allergy people who are allergic to a long list of seemingly unrelated drugs.  It's somewhat handy that it's in so many common drugs - if you've taken ibuprofen, or tylenol, or zyrtec, you've likely been exposed to PEG.  If you've taken those things without a reaction, you likely don't have a life-threatening PEG allergy. 

    ETA OBviously it's not handy for those with PEG allergies to be allergic to so many drug preparations, but rather handy for those wondering if they have a PEG allergy; they've likely already had a PEG challenge and just don't realize it.

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  5. I think, but I'm not sure, that the PEG is specific to mRNA vaccines.  Hence the newness of worrying about PEG allergies and vaccines.

    I know that Pfizer and Moderna covid vaccines do not contain gelatin or egg, which is great news for allergy peeps, because allergies to these particular common vaccine ingredients are much more common than PEG allergy.

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  6. 2 hours ago, Spryte said:

    We have two kids with LTFAs.  One is peanuts, all tree nuts, sesame, avocado, lentil, banana, latex for anaphylaxis.  Wheat, dairy, egg for less severe history.  Other kid is dairy - cow, goat, sheep (all anaphylaxis).  I am shellfish and a few things, and my mom is tree nuts.  (Try cooking at our house! Ha!)

    We met with the allergist and she encouraged us to get any of the shots we can get.  Take the epipens and inhalers, stay 30 mins after.  The main ingredient causing reactions seems to be propylene glycol.  Like in Miralax.  

    Yes, polyethylene glycol.  It's a super common ingredient in laxatives, cosmetics, and common medications including Zyrtec and some formulations of Tylenol. 

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  7. One of my family members has LTFA.  His allergist recommends vaccination without hesitation.  We will get him vaccinated as soon as he is eligible.

    From the Canadian Society of Allergy and Clinical Immunology Statement (didn't format very well with copy-paste):

    The CSACI would like to reassure our fellow Canadians that unless one has a pre-existing allergy to a component of a vaccine, including the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, it is safe to proceed with vaccination for COVID-19.In addition, those with otherallergic problemsare no more likely to experiencean allergic reaction to the COVID-19vaccine than the general population andshouldsafely be able to receive this vaccinethis includesthose with a history of serious allergic reactionsor anaphylaxisto substances that are not an ingredientinthis vaccine, and those with food allergy, eczema, allergic rhinitis (hayfever), asthma, or stinging insect allergy.

     

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  8. I missed almost a week of work in the fall for the world's most trivial, tiny cough.  It felt absolutely ridiculous.  Colleagues had to scramble to cover my shifts.  I don't get paid if I don't work.  My work culture is that people don't call in sick unless they are really sick.  I had to wait a day to organize a test, then wait 2-3 days for a test negative result, then wait for symptoms to be improving for 24 hours, then I could return to work as per protocol.  I felt so very ridiculous and foolish, and it was a socially/professionally very difficult decision - even though it was correct as per public health protocol.

    I couldn't know that the very tiny cough I had wasn't covid.  And if it had turned out to be covid, I would have exposed other people.  And risked ending in the news like this poor guy (minus the racism angle for me).

    I get it.

    Your fellow boardies know you to be a caring, conscientious and thoughtful person.  I can imagine that you are probably feeling super stressed.  Your posts in this thread, to me, feel out of character.  Following current CDC quarantine guidelines for close contacts is the right thing to do.  It sucks, it's disruptive, and it feels silly to miss work when you feel perfectly fine; I get it, I really do.

    Quill, this post is supposed to be supportive.  I'm having trouble with the words, forgive me.

     

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  9. 21 minutes ago, Quill said:

    Yeah, I know you are a reasonable non-USian and you don’t have white guys with semi-automatic weapons demanding the “right” to control their health as they like. 🙄 “Don’t Tread on Me! Rah, Rah, Rah!” 

    The testing location I went to is a mass testing site organized through state government. If that’s not public health, I don’t know what is. She said I would find a work excuse on the portal, so clearly, she’s aware that frequently, the problem is bosses don’t want assistant’s out of work for weeks unless they are actually sick. 

    So your telemed MD was a public health MD?  Then she should know. Community MD's wouldn't necessarily though.   Our testing sites give clients a handout that spells out obligations bases on circumstances. In your case, in my jurisdiction, you would be required to quarantine, for what that's worth.

    Edited for clarity

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  10. 45 minutes ago, Quill said:

    I do not think quarantine of a close contact is a law here (or, not currently). If it was, surely the telemed doctor would have definitely said so in response to both my and ds’ direct question of “what do I do about work/school?” For me, she said she “recommended” I stay home from work for a week and she thought a second test on Monday would be “wise.” For ds, she recommended he stay home from school for “a few days” and she said coming back for a second test on Monday was “not a bad idea.” 

    Surely if there was a law, she would be duty-bound to say so. 

    You would think, but not necessarily. And in practice it often doesn't happen. Your treating MD isn't responsible for initiating or enforcing public health orders (or for giving you legal information).  That's public health's role.  Your contact tracer and public health should be notifying you of your obligations.  Unfortunately, when public health is overwhelmed, that notification doesn't always happen in a timely fashion.   Our local public isolation and quarantine order is complex, and was updated recently.  I can guarantee you that most local MD's here are not up to date on all the details.

     

    ETA: as you know, I'm not in the US.  So maybe none of the above applies. 

     

     

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  11. 14 minutes ago, Scarlett said:

    You guys keep talking about state law.  Is there an actual LAW anywhere that dictates what Quill does next?

     

    Here, public health orders (including isolation and quarantine class orders) are legally enforceable under the Health Protection and Promotion Act.  Failure to comply may result in a $5000 fine per day

    I expect that the US (or individual states) has something similar.

  12. 7 minutes ago, Quill said:

    I think that is old info, though. I asked at the facility with the telehealth doctor. Telehealth doctor said I should not go to work for a week at minimum. There is a work note in my portal, although this portal is really frustrating me at the moment. 

    Can you contact your health unit for up to date information?  Their website might have up to date isolation and quarantine information.  In a perfect world, you would get a call from a contact tracer who would give you up to date information and a quarantine order.  The CDC still endorses a 14 day quarantine for close contacts.  I think you should stay home until you get formal direction from your health unit.

    I know things are different in the USA than in Canada, but not that different, I don't think.  There must exist a public health order to require quarantine for household contacts that's boss-proof, yes?   I just can't imagine a boss requiring (or being allowed to require) a known household contact of a positive case to come to work.  But I don't live in the US, so there's that.

     

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  13. 1 hour ago, Quill said:

    Yeah I know that but my boss is the one who has to accept or reject that. He has several risk factors. IOW, if I had no job, I would stay at home for two weeks, just to be completely sure I’m not transmitting. But my boss is *not* going to accept that unless I am positive and/or symptomatic. 
     

    Im sitting at the testing site and just had both tests. Dh is finished and he is positive. So this is all epic suckage. 

    I'm sorry Quill.  I know you've been fastidiously careful.

    Doesn't your state/ public health unit have mandatory quarantine for household contacts?  Here, household contacts have mandatory quarantine orders.  No boss can over-ride those. 

    (There is also a mandatory self-isolation order for those with symptoms -they either have to stay home for 10 days, or test; can return to work before 10 days if the test is negative plus 24 hours and symptoms are improving.  Bosses can't over-ride that either.)

    Here's a Maryland document from October that states contacts of cases should quarantine for `14 days

     

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  14. We've gone very unschooly for science.  I don't require anything - no curriculum, no topic list, no book list, no required science reading time, no formal output.  We have created a very science-rich environment in our home, and fostered sciency family culture. Lots and lots of books, podcasts, sciency toys (lego, snap circuits etc) and tools for tinkering (real tools, and lots and lots of "loose parts" a.k.a. junk and scraps), and lots of free time to play with it all.  We garden and we spend a lot of time in nature camping. Vacations are sciency - we make use of naturalist programs and interpretive centres when camping in provincial parks, visit science museums etc.  We talk about science topics and follow science current events as part of family life.  We have steeped them in science without them really noticing any intentionality on our part.  Kids are now 11 and 13.  So far, so good.  They have taken to science like ducks to water.  They are absolutely science literate.  It helps that the eldest is very mechanically inclined and likes to tinker.

    I've had to be more formal about teaching history, because, since it's not an area of strength for me, I don't feel that I can create the same quality organic type of free learning experience.

  15. 5 minutes ago, Innisfree said:

    This was a big hit here, too. 

    We went with a light style designed for camping. The kids liked how easy it was to carry them along on trips to the beach or whatnot and hook them up to a couple of trees (river beach, with cypress trees 😉). Anyway, they've been versatile and fun. The double style was good when friends hung out too.

    https://www.amazon.com/ENO-Eagles-Nest-Outfitters-DoubleNest/dp/B00P6LUANU/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=eno+hammock&qid=1616518789&sprefix=eno+&sr=8-4

     

    We do the same.

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